Licorice Pizza - Speculation & General Reactions

[wilberfan]

Photos from @benitotucker at the Licorice Pizza Premiere...Really dope to see Vicky Krieps there as well...

I think you missed posting the Vicky Pic.  I enjoyed seeing the GTO again, too.

[Alma]

Vicky!!! My love.

The woman who designed the (good) poster was there to, she posted about it on her instagram, her other stuff is really cool as well.

https://www.instagram.com/katreederart/

[Pringle]

Why is there a controversy over this movie while Call Me By Your Name didn't get any flack?

[wilberfan]

The woman who designed the (good) poster was there to, she posted about it on her instagram, her other stuff is really cool as well.
https://www.instagram.com/katreederart/

Wow.  I really like her stuff.   But I think I still prefer the 'original' poster. 



(I LIKE the 'good' poster; just prefer the 'original'.)

[Alma]

The woman who designed the (good) poster was there to, she posted about it on her instagram, her other stuff is really cool as well.
https://www.instagram.com/katreederart/

Wow.  I really like her stuff.   But I think I still prefer the 'original' poster. 



(I LIKE the 'good' poster; just prefer the 'original'.)

You know it has grown on me. Simple but effective.

[HACKANUT]

Was I just ahead of the curve? 

Kidding.

[PaulElroy35]

Why is there a controversy over this movie while Call Me By Your Name didn't get any flack?

Probably because  alana and cooper arent seen as the usual Hollywood beauties . Which is stupid  because they look real a d not fake.
Just proves how hypocritical  people can.

What's next people not wanting murder in films because its illegal  in real life.

I think people forget this is a film.

[HACKANUT]

I think it's also harder to publicly criticize a gay romance in our current cultural climate without facing backlash.

Could be wrong.

[wilberfan]

I was thinking something very similar.

[pynchonikon]

Hopefully the majority of critics along with the film industry will -as most of the time- embrace Anderson's cowardice and artistic dishonesty and he will get away with it instead of going to jail for turning his favorite male fantasies into movies.

[Alma]

There were some people who objected to Call Me By Your Name, it's just that, similarly to the negative reactions to Licorice Pizza, it was a minority of people. I think people here are just paying more attention to any perceived controversy over this one because, y'know, it's a PTA-themed board.

[Drenk]

Forbidding murder in movies where the dead people wake up, smile and dance with their murderers, singing about the wonders of gunfight in a supposedly realistic fiction? Yeah. That would be silly, right? What about the complexity of murder? Dying.

About Call Me: Oliver is awful and playing mind games and it ends on a very sour and fucked up note, plus: closeted gay teens having sex with older men happens, unfortunately, a lot, due to the secrecy and shame that make abuse easier. You're not painting a picture as outlandish as Alana being openly flirting with a teenager. It's their bad if people see Call Me as a wonderful love story or whatever bullshit gets printed on posters nowadays. Depiction isn't the issue, this isn't about portraying a « moral » universe. This is about taking your situation seriously. There's no innocent twenty-five years old in love with a fifteen years old; you got her struggling with her feelings and it can become silly very fast; if PTA really wanted to tell the story of a creepy adult getting involved with a teenager, he could have! Instead, he seems to be forced to...play around it...potentially making it worse.

I'm also rolling my eyes at the critics making fun of « age gap discourse » as if it were a story between two adults.

[polkablues]

I'm hoping everyone here can maintain perspective and keep in mind that criticism of the film is not a personal attack, that there has never been a film made that didn't have detractors, and that a robust, nuanced discussion of the themes and issues present in the film is both possible and welcome. There's no need to circle the wagons because someone online says "I have an issue with this."

[Jeremy Blackman]

Drenk, you and I, having not seen the movie, don't really know to what extent the relationship is described as innocent. The weirdness (and maybe wrongness?) of it seems central to the story.

But I also understand that your position is that any extent is too much. And that seems like a valid point of view.

My best guess is that the relationship is meant to come off as innocently weird, without any predatory undertones, with a diegetic understanding that the age gap forces it to be a friendship. I'm just guessing though.

[Montclair]

Why is there a controversy over this movie while Call Me By Your Name didn't get any flack?

Elio was 17. In a lot of states that's the age of consent. Gary is 15. Huge difference in maturity and proximity to official adulthood.