Lost in Translation

bonanzataz · February 22, 2004, 10:57:36 PM

i disagree (with the virgin suicides comments). granted, i haven't seen the whole thing in a long time, but I remember watching it just feeling so robbed. there were a few inventive parts, but overall, i just felt like it was sophia riding on the coattails of daddy and giving us an empty film. i had a feeling that the same thing was going to happen watching lost in translation, but i'm glad i went into it with an open mind because i love that movie. maybe if i watch virgin suicides again i'll change my mind. i trust godardian b/c he recommended morvern callar, but he also liked auto focus, so i'm a bit skeptical.

Chest Rockwell · February 23, 2004, 04:43:20 AM

Well I like Virgin Suicides, personally. It certainly didn't hit me as hard as Lost in Translation, but I think Sofia crafted a nice first movie/screenplay. If anything the person you're describing as 'riding on daddy's coattails and giving us an empty film' would be Roman Coppola.

Raikus · February 23, 2004, 09:30:06 AM

I liked the movie and book versions of the Virgin Suicides too, but they were completely different emotions envolved with each. The book had this great dry humor to it that just wrapped you in while the movie missed most of that and went for an eerie stillness and apprehension for the characters. I think if the movie were to combine the book's humor with the movie's ambience it would have been nearly perfect.

Actually, it would have nearly been Lost in Translation.

modage · February 23, 2004, 12:11:01 PM

Quote from: Chest RockwellIf anything the person you're describing as 'riding on daddy's coattails and giving us an empty film' would be Roman Coppola.

why? i didnt like lost in translation any better than virgin suicides which i didnt like any better than cq? chest, you're out of you're league here.

picolas · February 23, 2004, 12:35:08 PM

CQ CSUX

Redlum · February 23, 2004, 12:45:25 PM

Stating that her daddy is Francis Ford Coppola must be a pretty boring and tedious observation for her to endure. I'm sure she embraces her cinematic heritage but it just seems pretty unfair to me, considering that her films are unmistakably her own and nothing like her fathers.

Chest Rockwell · February 23, 2004, 05:29:59 PM

Quote from: themodernage02
Quote from: Chest RockwellIf anything the person you're describing as 'riding on daddy's coattails and giving us an empty film' would be Roman Coppola.
why? i didnt like lost in translation any better than virgin suicides which i didnt like any better than cq? chest, you're out of you're league here.

??? Are you angry or something?

modage · February 23, 2004, 05:31:10 PM

yeah dont be trashtalkin' roman coppola unless you want to take this outside.

Chest Rockwell · February 24, 2004, 03:43:31 PM

Quote from: themodernage02yeah dont be trashtalkin' roman coppola unless you want to take this outside.

Well he has only made one film, but I didn't particularly like it. Perhaps he'll grow into a better film maker? I don't know. All I know is that CQ probably never would have been made without his name being Coppola. And one can argue the same for Virgin Suicides, but it's different seeing as how the latter is a good script made by a good director. You must admit that Sofia's films are better than Roman's film(s), at least.

bonanzataz · February 24, 2004, 03:53:52 PM

i really liked cq. i even bought the dvd.

Chest Rockwell · February 24, 2004, 04:15:15 PM

Quote from: taz.i really liked cq. i even bought the dvd.

But did you like it more than Virgin Suicides?

modage · February 24, 2004, 04:38:47 PM

Quote from: Chest Rockwell
Quote from: themodernage02yeah dont be trashtalkin' roman coppola unless you want to take this outside.

Well he has only made one film, but I didn't particularly like it. Perhaps he'll grow into a better film maker? I don't know. All I know is that CQ probably never would have been made without his name being Coppola. And one can argue the same for Virgin Suicides, but it's different seeing as how the latter is a good script made by a good director. You must admit that Sofia's films are better than Roman's film(s), at least.

no i disagree. thats what i'm saying. i think CQ is as good as LIT which is as good as TVS. whats wrong with CQ? who cares if it would've been made if he hadnt been a coppola? he was a successful commercial/music video director. he probably would've been able to make it anyways, but i dont see why you would dismiss him as a filmmaker. why is TVS a good script made by a good director and CQ is not? where are you getting this stuff?

godardian · February 24, 2004, 04:45:28 PM

modage, I've only seen CQ once and am prepared to see it again, but I was very disappointed and annoyed; it's so contemporary-hipster-boy-movie, very one-dimensional and thin, and if that well-worn phrase "self-indulgent" applies to anything... It seems so tired and shallow compared to Sophia's films, in my opinion. I think there is both more thematic depth and more cinematographic beauty in her films than there is in CQ.

But... I will revisit CQ if taz will re-watch Auto Focus. That's the deal I'm layin' on the table, here.

Finn · February 24, 2004, 07:59:38 PM

I liked Virgin Suicides although I don't think it's up there with Picnic at Hanging Rock. I think L.I.T. is a much better movie.

bonanzataz · February 24, 2004, 09:16:39 PM

Quote from: godardianBut... I will revisit CQ if taz will re-watch Auto Focus. That's the deal I'm layin' on the table, here.

haha, it would be a deal, but i know that you would hate cq for the same reasons. and i don't think there's anybody out there who would go to the lengths it would take to get me to see auto focus again.