elephant

[Pedro]

I really do agree with what GT has said about the characters, but I still think it's an excellent film.

[Stefen]

heh, good stuff guys.

[foray]

Did anyone here feel that the scene where the 2 killers-to-be get into the shower was more like a ritual than a gay thing?

foray

[Banky]

Did anyone here feel that the scene where the 2 killers-to-be get into the shower was more like a ritual than a gay thing?

foray

i dont know but that scene really caught me off guard at kinda fucked with my head

[Stefen]

I think it was just a ploy to get you to think about why they did it. Did they do it cause they were gay? Cause they played video games? A number of things were shown for the reason they could have done it. They may not have been gay though, maybe just confused high school kids. Like the college freshman who experiments with her politically active roommate cause it feels right.

[ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ]

Elephant exceeded my expecations (which were high) with the silences and pauses.  It's a risk to put breaks in movies like this as many people I know considered it boring.  But if you become engaged and watch their lives, it's very interesting.

At first, I hated the ending.  I wanted resolution, but I think that's the point.  It's just something that happened, no moral included.  How do you get a moral out of such an event?

[Stefen]

The ending just made it that much more heartbreaking. As a decent human being you want to see the last killer standing get caught and justice served. We don't get that and I think that added a dimension to the film that made it almost unforgetable.

[foray]

I think it was just a ploy to get you to think about why they did it. Did they do it cause they were gay? Cause they played video games? A number of things were shown for the reason they could have done it. They may not have been gay though, maybe just confused high school kids. Like the college freshman who experiments with her politically active roommate cause it feels right.

SPOILER:

That scene struck me because it didn't seem gay. They weren't in love, clearly. The way they touched each other wasn't exactly lustful or anything. It was so empty and flat. Not to mention, one of them shot the other. It also didn't feel like they were experimenting, even tho one of them says "I've never been in the shower with another guy before" (can't remember exact quote). Maybe it was a preparation thing for what they were gonna do, I dunno. I'm just confused about that one scene.

The title of the earlier Elephant movie came from a writer who said that living in the Troubles, Ireland was like having an elephant in the room.

foray

[mutinyco]

The scene was about connection. He says, "I've never kissed anybody before." 2 losers about to go on a rampage that'll end their lives and they needed a moment of human connection.

[foray]

Cool, that makes a lil' more sense, thanks.

foray

[MacGuffin]

I can finally read this thread, and just did.

[Sleuth]

So what are your thoughts on the thread?

[MacGuffin]

So what are your thoughts on the thread?

It was like reading the minutes from a student council meeting.

[pete]

dude you read minutes from student council meetings?  SQUUUARE.

[matt35mm]

Just saw this movie.  Scared the crap outta me.  I had to pause to take a breather a few times just within the first hour, in which nothing happened.

... suddenly Senior year in high school doesn't look so hot...