elephant

Started by gjg 4 REEL, September 23, 2003, 01:45:14 PM

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El Duderino

from the Rolling Stone review:
"The title, borrowed from Alan Clarke's 1989 BBC film about violence in Northern Ireland, refers to something metaphorically huge that we all see and we all choose to ignore."
Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

Sleuth

Well they're wrong; many of us saw Van Sant say it himself when he was on Charlie Rose not to mention several print interviews or printerviews as the kids say
I like to hug dogs

Finn

Just watched this last night. Great movie! Very disturbing, cold and empty...but I admired it's reasons for all those things.
Typical US Mother: "Remember what the MPAA says; Horrific, Deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty words."

Pubrick

jesus christ, don't bother actually looking up the other pages or anything, this is the explanation for u lazy fucks..

these are from page 4..
Quote from: dufresneso why is this movie called Elephant?
i think i have an idea...
Quote from: OnomatopitaThe only thing I can think of is the expression "the elephant in the room."  No clue, though.  Definitely an intriguing title.
Quote from: SalThat's why.
Quote from: mutinycoIt's that, plus the old tale of the blind men feeling parts of an elephant and trying to describe the whole thing. The point is, they're trying to describe the entire object by just touching the tusk, per se. So there's so many factors to events like school shootings that to pick one motivation or one explanation is futile and naive in the scheme of the whole.
page 5..
Quote from: MacGuffinLos Angeles Times article:

Shooting without answers
Director Gus Van Sant's 'Elephant' examines -- but doesn't explain -- a Columbine-like shooting. He says the film is more like a poem than a detective story.

Van Sant asked "Gummo" director Harmony Korine, who had told Van Sant that [Alan] Clarke's "Elephant" was his favorite film, to write a script, but Korine became focused on other work and never finished a draft.

Clarke's "Elephant" was titled after the proverbial elephant in the living room, but when Van Sant decided to name his film after Clarke's, he thought the title referred to the Buddhist parable about a group of blind men who each touch a different part of an elephant, each concluding it's something different since none sees the whole. It was an apt metaphor for the way our society tends to look for a single answer to a problem, Van Sant says.
go there to read the whole thing if u really give a shit.
under the paving stones.

NEON MERCURY

spoilerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs


i liked-

the sound, the score/music, the 'gerry' videogame, the long tracking shots of following the kids around(espicailly the guy in red hoody), the derunk dad, the cinematography in general, the way this film feels like 'gerry' and a new direction gus is going through, the way high schoolers interact and talk was captureed well, benny s scenario, the self-puking trio, the opening title sequence,  and lastly the (for the dramatic 'shock') the nerd girl exodus....very unerving in the best way...click!...boom!!!.... :shock: .......... :( ....p.o.w.e.r.f.u.l........


i didn t like-

the generic white trash eminem wannabe character...(the other guy was totally convincing)..........

El Duderino

Quote from: NEON MERCURY

the generic white trash eminem wannabe character...(the other guy was totally convincing)..........

which? the sidekick? if so, agreed.
Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

NEON MERCURY

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Quote from: NEON MERCURY

the generic white trash eminem wannabe character...(the other guy was totally convincing)..........

which? the sidekick? if so, agreed.


...the kid who doesn t play the piano..

El Duderino

Quote from: NEON MERCURY
Quote from: El Duderino
Quote from: NEON MERCURY

the generic white trash eminem wannabe character...(the other guy was totally convincing)..........

which? the sidekick? if so, agreed.


...the kid who doesn t play the piano..

the sidekick
Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

Chest Rockwell

Well, no offense P, but no, I obviously did not read the earlier posts. I personally don't like to go through ever single page, so I just read the first page and the last page when I'm joining a thread, unless it's really interesting or unless the last page is continuing a certain topic of note from an earlier page. Otherwise, I'm probably not going to see it.

"That's why it's called a quip, not a slooooooowp."

mutinyco

Watching it on DVD, it still holds up. Still the best film of last year.
"I believe in this, and it's been tested by research: he who fucks nuns will later join the church."

-St. Joe

cine

Quote from: mutinycoWatching it on DVD, it still holds up. Still the best film of last year.
Phew, good. I was worried for a second.

mutinyco

What had you worried? I wrote it multiple times on MovieNavigator.
"I believe in this, and it's been tested by research: he who fucks nuns will later join the church."

-St. Joe

Jeremy Blackman

I was actually worried too. But not anymore.

By the way, excellent movie, probably the most important of last year, maybe the best.

We should all modify our lists.

mutinyco

"I believe in this, and it's been tested by research: he who fucks nuns will later join the church."

-St. Joe

cine

That's twice tonight that you plugged your site. Was this pre-planned? Just wondering..