Licorice Pizza - Speculation & General Reactions

Started by Fuzzy Dunlop, August 30, 2017, 12:58:10 PM

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itwasgood

Ugh this sounds amazing. I want to watch it so bad please please let it be out online on Monday.

©brad

Already warmed up to the title and it only took half a day.

Dr_Chile

Looks like IMDB has confirmed John C. Reilly, Maya Rudolph, Ben Stiller, and Tom Waits as cast members.

Rooty Poots

Quote from: Dr_Chile on September 11, 2021, 02:03:58 PM
Looks like IMDB has confirmed John C. Reilly, Maya Rudolph, Ben Stiller, and Tom Waits as cast members.

It's very possible someone on IMDb is just updating it based on the Wikipedia, too. But I sure would like John C Reilly to return!
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Yes

Once again, I am asking for a leak

Find Your Magali

Quote from: Dr_Chile on September 11, 2021, 02:03:58 PM
Looks like IMDB has confirmed John C. Reilly, Maya Rudolph, Ben Stiller, and Tom Waits as cast members.

Yet no Sean Penn confirmation, which is odd, right?

PinkTeeth

Quote from: Yes on September 11, 2021, 03:45:47 PM
Once again, I am asking for a leak

I was fine without one, but after having read that spoiler tweet, im bummed "__ _ ____!" is our first new PTA dialogue in 4 years. Dying to know the context to all this... with politicians involved, this could hilarious
New Name, Same Typos.

Rooty Poots

https://theplaylist.net/licorice-pizza-breakdown-20210911/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Avoid reading if you want to go into the trailer relatively spoiler-free.

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Reportedly first shown in front of "American Graffiti," in London, the film previously known as "Soggy Bottom" is clearly the auteur's foray into the rebel teen genre. Additionally, much in the same way that "Phantom Thread" was his first true woman-led picture with a female point of view, "Licorice Pizza" very much seems like his love letter to the youth generation—which makes a lot of sense given reports that he was writing a project with his daughter. Stylistically, the movie appears to be a mash-up of "Inherent Vice" and "Boogie Nights," being the first movie Anderson has shot in scope since "There Will Be Blood." (The first screening I attended was also in scope; the second was not, where the trailer was matted, so this was not a projection error).

Set to David Bowie's "Life on Mars," the preview is a bit like one for David Fincher's flicks, specifically "The Social Network"—a rapidly escalating montage juxtaposed against a cover of "Creep." For the most part, there aren't really scenes in it, rather a few big dialog exchanges and lots of fleeting moments.

Opening with a classic PTA track, Alana Haim's character struts by the poles of her school courtyard—consistently clad in a modest red dress, just like Alma Elson or Lena Leonard. Honestly, the footage makes her out to be the star of the film, but perhaps that's partly due to the affections of Cooper Hoffman's (son of the late Philip Seymour Hoffman) character, who enviously looks on in a club as Haim's character wraps her arms around Sean Penn's, looking like he just got off work at Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce with his sharp suit and smoke cloud. She sticks her tongue out at Hoffman, before soon showing up at his front door, asking if he'd like to see her boobs. Cutting to a shot from behind her back as Haim exposes her chest, Hoffman asks if he can touch them. When he goes to try, she slaps him in the face.

In the same way that "The Master" showcased its damaged sailors as a kind of Kubrickian tribe — and "Phantom Thread" did the same with models and seamstresses — one memorable shot sees a line of young men in similarly clad suit-and-bowtie schoolboy outfits. It appears as if they're waiting to see a principal or disciplinary type of some sort. There's also a sequence of Hoffman's character acting in a stage play—maybe "Annie" or one of a similar variety—confirming that his role would be that of an aspiring actor. The photography style in the theater looks radically different here than the outdoor shots, the production staged with such a white background and clean costumed look that it almost pops out off the screen as abstract, not unlike select sequences in the two aforementioned PTA films. There's also a brief snipped of a film within a film, a la the Dirk Diggler documentary in "Boogie Nights."

But quite possibly most fascinatingly of all, the trailer confirms Bradley Cooper to be playing zany Hollywood producer/former hairdresser Jon Peters—yes, the one from the Kevin Smith "Superman" story. Though (Bradley) Cooper is billed first, he definitely seems to be filling the supporting father/mentor-type figure a la Jack Horner or Lancaster Dodd. His one dialog bit is an amusing exchange in which he corrects the way Hoffman's character pronounces girlfriend Barbara Streisand's name.

Other actors spotted among the quick cutting are Tom Waits, Maya Rudolph, John C. Reilly, and Benny Safdie, who is playing Los Angeles City Councilman Joel Wachs, also Present of the Andy Warhol Foundation for the Visual Arts. Two of the most stand-out moments find Sean Penn riding a motorcycle shouting "I AM A NAZI!" at the top of his lungs, and Peters crouched between two muscle cars with a window squeegee in each hand—the latter looks very "Punch Drunk Love" and is just chef's kiss PTA. As the editing builds, the counterculture/civil rights components also grow. Kids party. Arrests are made—the music swells while the montage crescendos with a succession of several running shots. Haim's character can be heard being hard on herself for spending time too much time with a 15-year-old and his friends. Perhaps most wonderfully, one close-up finds Hoffman's mouth slightly agape, and he's the splitting image of a young Scotty J. for a second.

"I'm not going to forget you, just like you're not going to forget me," his character says as the trailer ends, a clear romantic like Barry Egan. The final shot is an intimate silhouette at sunset behind the back of him and Haim as they walk down a valley road; finally, the title "Licorice Pizza" pops up (it's very "Inherent Vice" looking, and sounds like a Thomas Pynchon title, no?). Speaking as a fellow, lifelong, San Fernando Valley boy, the textured widescreen imagery of PTA's time hole looks to turn the banal into bliss here, but it's not an aesthetic without a sense of looming disappointment and danger as well. With his recent pivot towards tight/medium compositions, returning to shooting in scope will surely make for some fascinating cinematography choices, as the footage makes known.

Like his stoner noir, 'Pizza' has a bright green credit font, the six actors billed after the title card: Bradley Cooper, Cooper Hoffman, Alana Haim, Sean Penn, Tom Waits, and Benny Safdie. It's a good-sized trailer. Probably close to two minutes, but boy does it fly. From what's been gathered from other sources, Anderson has only given the reel to certain theaters which screen 35mm. If you live in LA, I believe that also includes the New Beverly and the Aero if you can't wait until it drops online — and hey, those theaters are showing some great stuff — but the cat's finally out of the bag. We are officially getting a new PTA movie soon.
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pynchonikon

That's a hell of a read  :shock: It also seems like he managed to spot John C. Reilly  :o

Drenk

I've only read 50% of the summary! I've got some restraint!
Ascension.

Yes

I'm 100% in now.

yeah, I'm going to need this footage ASAP

wilberfan

Quote from: pynchonikon on September 11, 2021, 05:01:43 PM
That's a hell of a read  :shock: It also seems like he managed to spot John C. Reilly  :o

Yeah, that made my eyebrow go up. 

d

I couldn't resist and read it. Funny how within hours worst marketing strategy turned out to be one of the coolest and he once again proved he can do something different. I admit I was not so sure he can still do that, with Phantom Thread being a bit dissapointing for me in that respect. While it may create buzz mostly among fans, I love the way it is all happening, even if I am dying to see the trailer instead of reading about it. The weird title, the cheap logo ;), all the secrets. Who knows, maybe I will love the Haim songs. It's great he used Bowie in the trailer though.

wilberfan

Quote from: d on September 11, 2021, 05:37:48 PM
The weird title, the cheap logo ;),

Wonder if the logo is period-authentic?  Or, perhaps designed by one of the youngsters in the film, or....?  :ponder:  It certainly doesn't dazzle--but maybe we need a little context to judge properly.

DAPPLE

Goddamn it, that sounds fantastic. Particularly the awkwardness of the relationships between the young and old protagonists which seem so sweet and twisted and malleable; a trademark of his, of course. This is giving me comfort in knowing what I'm going to pay my ticket for. Finally some good fucking food. Bring it on!!