Fahrenheit 9/11

[hedwig]

(in case anyone takes this out of context, Glick says the 9/11 were allegded assassinations)

Well, before you take Glick out of context, here's the full quote...

"Our current president now inherited a legacy from his father and inherited a political legacy that's responsible for training militarily, economically, and situating geopolitically the parties involved in the alleged assassination and murder of my father and countless of thousands of others."

I'm pretty sure the "alleged" part is supposed to mean that these people he's talking about are the alleged perpetrators of the crime. It's a little awkward, but there it is. Do you seriously believe (especially in this context, and with the end of his sentence) that he's saying 9/11 may not have happened?

And nothing he says is incorrect. Our government has a history of supporting and cooperating with Saudi Arabia (which is where Bin Laden and the highjackers are from) and the Taliban (as recently as the summer of 2001).

I like Jeremy Blackman.

[Weird. Oh]

(in case anyone takes this out of context, Glick says the 9/11 were allegded assassinations)

Well, before you take Glick out of context, here's the full quote...



And nothing he says is incorrect. Our government has a history of supporting and cooperating with Saudi Arabia (which is where Bin Laden and the highjackers are from) and the Taliban (as recently as the summer of 2001).

Actually, I believe he didn't mention Saudi Arabia once. He basically insinuated that GHWB was responisble for training of the hijackers. Now yes I understand we trained the Mujahadeen to fight the USSR in Afghanistan. Glick's viewpoint was obviously fringe left of the popular view in the country that the invasion of Afghanistan I watched Outfoxed and I thought it was horrible. It basically strung a bunch of clips together in order to prove some sort of right wing agenda. I  rarely watch the FNC except for the O'reilly Factor and a show called Fox News Watch. However, I think other networks such as CNN were examined with a fine-tooth comb like FNC, we would fine trends that would prove them to have more liberal news agenda.

And honestly, I don't think either way is wrong. Don't watch TV at all for your news. Read the newspaper or look at internet sources. They are much more likely to give straight news.

[Jeremy Blackman]

Actually, I believe he didn't mention Saudi Arabia once.

Well, when he mentioned "the parties involved" in 9/11, bin Laden and the highjackers come to mind.

He basically insinuated that GHWB was responisble for training of the hijackers.

GHWB was extremely responsible for the rise and dominance of the Taliban, which harbored Al Qaeda. Where's the exaggeration?

Glick's viewpoint was obviously fringe left of the popular view in the country

Then we should just ignore him, shouldn't we, because he obviously must be wrong if he's not popular.

I watched Outfoxed and I thought it was horrible. It basically strung a bunch of clips together in order to prove some sort of right wing agenda.

It aggravates me when people get reactionary like that, like "oh it must be conveniently edited and therefore everything is out of context and wrong." Try investigating it. What exactly is out of context and how is it out of context?

However, I think other networks such as CNN were examined with a fine-tooth comb like FNC, we would fine trends that would prove them to have more liberal news agenda.

http://www.fair.org/activism/cnn-gop.html

[pete]

I like you angry again, Jeremy Blackman.

[grand theft sparrow]

However, I think other networks such as CNN were examined with a fine-tooth comb like FNC, we would fine trends that would prove them to have more liberal news agenda.

http://www.fair.org/activism/cnn-gop.html

I know I'm coming into this way late but Reformed Weirdo's post caught my eye.  

My girlfriend used to work at CNN.  The "liberal media" stigma attached to them is just not true.  They're no Fox, believe me, and technically you'd be right by saying that they have a "more liberal news agenda," but who doesn't have a more liberal news agenda than Fox?  In any case, they're not as liberal as Fox is conservative, not even close.  I've heard about plenty of story ideas getting quietly squashed as they were considered too liberal, though it was never said in so many words.

Just had to clarify that.  Carry on.

[MacGuffin]

George Mason U. Cancels Michael Moore Talk

George Mason University on Thursday canceled plans to have "Fahrenheit 9/11" director Michael Moore speak on campus five days before the presidential election.

The decision came after a Republican state legislator wrote a letter to university President Alan G. Merten protesting the Fairfax school's plans to pay the filmmaker $35,000 to speak on Oct. 28.

"We just felt it wasn't the most appropriate use of (public) funds, so we decided the best thing to do was cancel," school spokesman Daniel Walsch said.

George Mason didn't notify Moore before making the decision public, Walsch said.

A message left seeking comment from Moore wasn't immediately returned to The Associated Press, but he told The Washington Post he plans to come and speak anyway.

"I'm going to show up in support of free speech and free expression," he said.

Loudoun County Del. Richard L. Black wrote a letter dated Tuesday urging Merten to reconsider the university's "lavish payment" to Moore, or to cancel the appearance.

"Tax money is being spent poorly, and for partisan purposes," wrote Black, who has one of the General Assembly's most conservative voting records.

Walsch said university officials didn't discuss with Moore whether they would allow him to speak if he waived his fee, nor did they approach student groups or other private organizations to come up with the money.

Moore's film, still playing in theaters, criticizes and ridicules President Bush's response to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and his decision to invade Iraq.

[Jeremy Blackman]

He does charge too much for these appearances. He should be doing it for free, especially this month...

[hedwig]

Oct 5, M. Moore will be releasing TWO F9/11 soundtracks, one of the score and songs and one of songs that inspired him, TWO books, and a DVD.

if you got some sugar for me......









MICHAEL MOORE'S TRACK BY TRACK AND ALBUM COMMENTARY ON SONGS AND ARTISTS THAT INSPIRED FAHRENHEIT 9/11


When I make a film, I take my portable CD case and place in it a series of albums which contain music that reflects the mood I am in and the reasons that are motivating me to make this film. I play these CDs for myself and for my crew. Sometimes we have them playing in the van while we are driving around and filming. Sometimes I listen to them at night, thinking about what I want to accomplish the next day on the shoot. It is not easy to crash Capitol Hill to ask Congressmen if they would like to send THEIR sons to Iraq. Music helps get us there.

The songs contained on this CD are either the actual songs that made up our "on-the-scene" soundtrack, or they are by artists whom I have listened to over the years and have given me much inspiration...


Little Steven -- "I Am a Patriot"... That is how I feel. That is what we are. People who love our country and are trying to save it. This is a great anthem (and I love Jackson Browne's version of it also).


Bruce Springsteen -- "Chimes of Freedom" ...What can I say? Bruce is THE man. I have had his music playing in all my work, starting with "My Hometown" in "Roger & Me." He is who we all aspire to be! He never broke faith. I have carried his "Chimes of Freedom" EP with me for years, an EP that not many have, and I am proud to include it here.


Bob Dylan -- "With God On Our Side"... I once drove a thousand miles, from Flint, Mich. to Quebec City, to see Bob Dylan and Joan Baez in concert. Dylan (along with John Lennon) saved our entire generation from Pat Boone. That we would have a president now using God in this manner to defeat those whom he sees as godless makes this song all the more relevant more than 40 years after Dylan first recorded it.

Zack de la Rocha -- "We Want It All" ... Zack, the lead singer of the greatest rock band of the '90s, Rage Against the Machine, is, in person, the most gentle of souls you will ever meet. But when he gets in the studio or on the stage, a fire erupts that consumes all who listen. This is his first song in five years and it's a barn burner! Welcome back, Zack, we need ya now more than ever...


System of a Down -- "Boom "... I directed the video for this song. It was actually a celebration of the worldwide anti-war demonstrations of February 15, the largest single-day protests ever in history. System of a Down was there, just like they always have been. Play this song in the car and play it loud!


The Nightwatchman --"No One Left" ...Tom Morello, guitar slayer extrordinaire of Rage Against the Machine and now of Audioslave, has an alter ego and it's The Nightwatchman. This brand new track is both beautiful and haunting -- and painfully true. Death in New York, death in Baghdad, it is all to be mourned. Tom sings, the guitar is acoustic, and I am compelled to play this song over and over.


Pearl Jam -- "Masters of War"... Damn right, Eddie Vedder! I hear every bit of your anger that we all feel right now. There is a judgment day, and I wouldn't want to be standing next to anyone in the Bush administration when the avenging angel comes a-looking. This version of the Dylan classic is so brutal, so piercing, you find yourself glancing around to see if anyone is going to arrest you just for listening to it.


Dixie Chicks -- "Travelin' Soldier"... I was not the first to call out the President when I did so on that Oscar stage. Ten days before, the Dixie Chicks did it first. How wonderfully ironic that the first blow against this madness did not come from any of the usual "lefty" places, but rather from three moms from Bush's Texas. But that is how the revolution usually starts, isn't it? Some average, everyday Joe or Jane just gets fed up and says, OK, I've had enough. I love these three women. Their courage -- and the abuse and censorship that they had to sustain and overcome -- did much to get me through this past year. In the end, they were back on top, more popular than ever (so much for that old adage of you better not rock the boat or you will lose everything). And this song, about a kid who dies in Vietnam and nobody really cares except one pigtailed girl, is a heartbreaker for all who have lost a loved one in this current worthless war.


John Fogerty -- "Fortunate Son"... Says it all. Bush, the fortunate son who didn't have to go to Vietnam, now sends the sons, not of the fortunate, but of the poor and working class. I would love to play this song at full blast outside the White House some night. And don't think I won't!


The Clash -- "Know Your Rights" ... The street fightin' men of The Clash (along with the Sex Pistols) saved rock-n-roll from certain death in the late '70s, and this song is another great anthem for all to stand up and demand the rights guaranteed to us.


Steve Earle -- "The Revolution Starts Now"...This is an artist you must listen to. So much of his music in the past few years has been a call to action. A mix of country and rock and something that is only his, Steve pulls no punches and gives me much hope. This song is from his new album -- and every song on that album deserves a listen. If I were a rock star, I would be Steve Earle!


Black Eyed Peas featuring Justin Timberlake-- "Where Is The Love?"... My nieces first gave me this song when we were completing the programming for the "Bowling For Columbine" DVD. It was too late by then to include it as a musical bed for our bonus featurettes, but I kept it in my CD case because I loved the spirit and its audaciousness. It really is one of the first truly great songs of this new century.


Nanci Griffith -- "Goodnight, New York"... My wife and I were stranded 3,000 miles from home on the morning of 9/11, our daughter back in New York without us. We got in a car and drove home. The night we crossed the George Washington Bridge and looked down the length of the island to see the smoke still billowing was perhaps one of the saddest moments of my life. As a child, my mother used to take us to New York all the time. She loved this city, and we grew to love it, too. One day, I got to move here. This beautiful song touches me in a personal way and I love to think about the promise of New York, of this country and its ideals, and of my wonderful, loving mother.


Jeff Buckley -- "Hallelujah" ...While we were putting this record to bed, Tom Morello, Serj (from System of a Down) and I took over K-Rock in New York on the afternoon of the first day of the 2004 Republican convention. We played this song, not out of despair, but from a sense of hope -- a hope that perhaps a simple song can take us to a better place.


And I hope you enjoy this CD. Though the songs aren't "mine," I feel them in me, and they urge me on to do the work we all need to do. I hope it has the same effect on you. We're all in the same boat, we're all in this together.

-Michael Moore

sugar daddy, bring it home

I'll be buying all five of those things, being the obsessive compulsive completist that I am.

[Pas]

and i thought kotte had a problem..

[hedwig]

ok so i won't be purchasing the soundtrack -- i have all of those songs already.

[Ravi]

This cover makes me laugh more than the one with Moore and Bush eating popcorn.

[rustinglass]

what is an official reader?

[cine]

It's Moore with his best "spare some change" face.

[Chest Rockwell]

what is an official reader?

It's Moore with his best "spare some change" face.

Obviously.

[Jeremy Blackman]

sugar daddy, bring it home

My God, that's a Hedwig song, isn't it?