Fahrenheit 9/11

Started by Gold Trumpet, April 01, 2003, 09:21:36 AM

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coffeebeetle

Their abrasive, right-wing ignorance sickens me.

more than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. one path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. the other, to total extinction. let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly.
woody allen (side effects - 1980)


Jeremy Blackman

Quote from: coffeebeetleTheir abrasive, right-wing ignorance sickens me.
But have you seen the inspirational t-shirts?







Why is a UFO abducting Condoleeza Rice?

coffeebeetle

more than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. one path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. the other, to total extinction. let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly.
woody allen (side effects - 1980)


SiliasRuby

The Beatles know Jesus Christ has returned to Earth and is in Los Angeles.

When you are getting fucked by the big corporations remember to use a condom.

There was a FISH in the perkalater!!!

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pete

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Chest Rockwell

Camelot May Not Return for Disney

Disney seemed certain to take another drubbing at the box office this weekend as returns for its Wednesday premiere of King Arthur came in below expectations. (Daily Variety described the opening as "not stellar.") The film grossed $4.8 million, less than half the $10.04 million grossed by Spider-Man 2, which celebrated its eighth day in release by crossing the $200 million mark ($202,115,000), getting there faster than any film in history. The $130-million film, which is playing on 3,000 screens earned less than the $6-million Fahrenheit 9/11, which Disney rejected, earned in its opening on fewer than 900 screens. Indeed, on a per-theater basis Wednesday King Arthur and Fahrenheit took in about the same amount of money. Fahrenheit's gross now stands at $66.6 million.

The IRONY!!!!

NEON MERCURY

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: coffeebeetleTheir abrasive, right-wing ignorance sickens me.
But have you seen the inspirational t-shirts?


the first one sucks...reminds me of a crude sci-fi low budget film....

the second one is actaully quite classy...i like the circle logo..bu tthe "pro-war" needs tyo be a little smaller.......i would actaully wear that one ...

the last one screams white trash....this is evident by that skeleton and flame motif thaty you will notice on most metal bands like megadeth and other white trash metal......if i was going to see slayer, kid rock, or a skid row reunion tour i would fit in nicely wearing this shirt.....

but "freedom isnt free" and "peace isn t pretty" is true.........in all cases..

lastly, the "its a dirty job" trivializes the above and is in bad taste.......
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Jeremy Blackman

Quote from: NEON MERCURYbut "freedom isnt free" and "peace isn t pretty" is true.........in all cases..
You may be surprised that I disagree.

Those bumper sticker simplifications are completely shielding what they really mean, which is, of course, "the path to freedom isn't free" and "the path to peace isn't peaceful." We can argue about those, but it's a logical certainty that freedom is free and peace is peaceful.

Consciously delaying "freedom" and "peace" by actively engaging in their opposites, authoritarianism and war, is not only counterintuitive and illogical but disagrees with almost everything that has happened in the history of the world. Only fighting against authoritarianism yeilds freedom. Only refraining from war yeilds peace.

This is proven by the War on Terrorism, which has become the most successful terrorist recruitment tool in recent history.

World War 1 was called "the war to end all wars."

Sleuth

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classical gas

Quote from: NEON MERCURYbut "freedom isnt free" and "peace isn t pretty" is true.........in all cases..


reminds me of a book i read....

edit: sorry for the edit again, but towards the link slueth provided....i think this guy is reading a little too much into the racism of the film.  i didn't find anything wrong with his 'role call'.  it simply showed that basically the 'colation of the willing' were simply names and not artillary or force.  it was a joke really.  that's what i think, anyway.
and the part about white people being questioned about being terrorists...i just assumed it was a way to show how far they would go to use the 'patriot act' as a way to take away a little freedom from us.  they weren't just using it on people who were from the region of the terrorists, but from people who were born in this country; in short, it's not really where you're from, but what you believe or don't believe in.  i think it was a good point.  there may be a little racism in there (maybe?), but i don't find it to be a way to denounce the whole film.  that guy is wack, really.

Ravi

The Coalition of the Willing was not exactly a powerhouse, aside from Great Britain.  Could Palau and Iceland really do anything for us?

Moore certainly could have included a segment on Middle Easterners and South Asians being unfairly questioned or detained, but the point of the segment he included was that even someone who in passing says something derogatory about the government could be trailed.

Weird. Oh

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: NEON MERCURYbut "freedom isnt free" and "peace isn t pretty" is true.........in all cases..
You may be surprised that I disagree.


This is proven by the War on Terrorism, which has become the most successful terrorist recruitment tool in recent history.

Actually, it is easier to blame us for everything, but I would put more blame of terrorist recruitment on the radical islamic sects. Anyone, it's good to know have a CIA specialist on here that knows the numbers of terrorists in the world. Makes me feel safer next time I go in to a movie theatre.  :lol:
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Sleuth

Quote from: classical gasbut i don't find it to be a way to denounce the whole film.  that guy is wack, really.

I don't find that singling out the race-portion is a way to denounce the whole article, etc etc
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