Fahrenheit 9/11

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MacGuffin

Quote from: StefenAre they going to kick you out of the frat for liking it?

cbrad spends more time with his frat brothers than his xixax family. Let's kick him out of here and ban him!
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El Duderino

Quote from: ono.What kind of things were they saying to interrupt him?

the most popular ones were "stop the lies, stop the lies!" and of course "bush, cheney '04"
Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

hedwig

Quote from: El Duderino
Quote from: ono.What kind of things were they saying to interrupt him?

the most popular ones were "stop the lies, stop the lies!" and of course "bush, cheney '04"


©brad

Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: StefenAre they going to kick you out of the frat for liking it?

cbrad spends more time with his frat brothers than his xixax family. Let's kick him out of here and ban him!

actually, i just got kicked out myself! didn't pay dues, some other stuff.

but really, it all gets old super quick. i've made my friends with it, had my fun.

meanwhile, i still have you guys, right?  :(

Ravi

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meanwhile, i still have you guys, right?  :(

We need to talk.

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Moore's Pre-Election TV Special Nixed

A cable pay-per-view company has decided not to show a three-hour election eve special with filmmaker Michael Moore that included a showing of his documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11," which is sharply critical of President Bush.

The company, iN DEMAND, said Friday that its decision is due to "legitimate business and legal concerns." A spokesman would not elaborate.

Moore has just released his movie on DVD and was seeking a TV outlet for the film.

Earlier this week, trade publications said Moore was close to a deal with iN DEMAND for "The Michael Moore Pre-Election Special," which also would include interviews with politically active celebrities and admonitions to vote. The Nov. 1 special was to be available for $9.95.

Moore said Friday he signed a contract with the company in early September and is considering legal action. He said he believes iN DEMAND decided not to air the film because of pressure from "top Republican people."

"Apparently people have put pressure on them and they've broken a contract," Moore told The Associated Press.

"We've informed them of their legal responsibility and we all informed them that every corporate executive that has attempted to prohibit Americans from seeing this film has failed," Moore said. "There's been one struggle or another over this, but we've always come out on top because you can't tell Americans they can't watch this."

The New York-based iN DEMAND, owned by the Time Warner, Cox and Comcast cable companies, makes pay-per-view programming available in 28 million homes, or about one-quarter of the nation's homes with television.

In a statement, iN DEMAND said any legal action Moore might take against the company would be "entirely baseless and groundless."

This spring, Moore did battle with the Walt Disney Co., which refused to release "Fahrenheit 9/11" through its Miramax Films because it was too politically partisan for the company's taste.

Moore found other distributors. The movie, which attacks Bush's handling of the war on terrorists and war in Iraq and the Bush family's ties to Saudi royalty, earned more than $100 million at the box office.

In an interview with a Maine television station that aired this week, former President George H.W. Bush called Moore a "slimeball" and an expletive.

Also Friday, Moore offered to let Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc. air the movie for free. Such a deal would likely get a chilly reception at Sinclair, a broadcaster with a reputation for conservative politics that plans to air a critical documentary about John Kerry's anti-Vietnam War activities on dozens of TV stations two weeks before the election.
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El Duderino

Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

Weird. Oh

I haven't noticed anyone talk about it on here, so I'll mention it. Since I work at a video store I get free rentals. I saw FahrenHYPE 9/11 came and figured I'd see what was up with it. I think it offered some fair contrasts in regards to F9/11. There were definitely disposable portions, i.e Ann Coulter (IMO the Michael Moore of the right). I think the interviews with the people who were in F9/11 and were potrayed not as they would it, were the most valuable aspect of the film. Especially, the soldier whose limbs were blown off and feels like what he did was still an honorable thing, yet his potrayel in F9/11 wouldn't make it seem that . I think people on here should at least give it a chance to offer up a counter-response to F9/11.
The more arguments you win, the fewer friends you will have.

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Filmmaker Michael Moore speaks during a news conference on the Utah Valley State College campus, Wednesday, Oct. 20, 2004, in Orem, Utah. Actress Rosanne Barr listens at rear. Moore's appearance has stirred fierce debate in Utah County, one of the nation's most conservative. Critics here say the student government misused public money by spending most of its $50,000 budget to book the ``Fahrenheit 9/11'' director, whose documentary painted President Bush as an inept leader who rushed the United States into war. The stop was Moore's 35th on his 61-city Slacker Uprising tour, a national trek aimed at mobilizing youth voters.
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ono

What a cute couple.

And I finally saw this film tonight.  Can't really say anything that hasn't been said, so I'll keep it brief.  The first part of the film made me sick at how fucked up everything really is.  I already knew it, but having it reaffirmed is validating and necessary, especially for those who don't understand it.  It's not as good a documentary as BFC, but it serves a purpose, and did the job well.  Only problem is it may not change too many people's minds, as has been said before.

Moore didn't bother me that much.  He seemed to know when to speak up, and his sarcastic voice is just his nature.  His voiceover, and his reserved approach in letting the material speak for itself really worked.  Yeah, things are just really fucked up (beheading, Lila Lipscomb (sp?), Fire Water Burn, arm guts, burnt faces).  Go vote for Kerry on November 2nd so we can get this fool out of the White House.

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S. Africa Channel to Air 'Fahrenheit 9/11'

An independent television channel in South Africa will air Michael Moore's documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" on the eve of the U.S. elections, the channel's publicist said Wednesday.

Following the Nov. 1 showing, M-Net will feature a panel discussion broadcast from its Johannesburg studio. The Nov. 2 presidential election pits U.S. President George W. Bush against Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry in a neck-and-neck race.

M-Net, the country's first pay channel, secured the rights for one exclusive screening from the film's distributors, Paramount, earlier this week.

"This is the first time in the history of South African television a movie will be broadcast on television while it is still on the circuit," Jan du Plessis, head of M-Net's program division, said in a statement.

"But 'Fahrenheit 9/11' has broken many rules and conventions, and we're delighted that we got permission to screen it at such an opportune time."

Moore has billed his documentary as his view of what happened to the United States after Sept. 11, 2001, and how Bush's administration allegedly used the event as a pretext to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.

The film won the top award and the longest standing ovation at this year's Cannes Film Festival. It also became the highest-grossing documentary in its opening weekend, with US$23,9 million (€18,7 million).
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Chest Rockwell

Bush Voted Year's Top Film Villain

American President George W. Bush has topped an unlikely poll in Britain - as this year's top screen villain. Bush won the dubious accolade for his unauthorized appearance in Michael Moore's anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit 9/11. The politician beat out the likes of Doc Ock, played by Alfred Molina, in Spider-Man 2; The Texas Chainsaw Massacre's Leatherface; Andy Serkis' Gollum from Lord Of The Rings trilogy; and Elle Driver, the assassin played by Daryl Hannah in Kill Bill. Almost 10,000 people voted in the poll, conducted by Total Film Magazine.
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Website Offers Free Copies of 'Fahrenheit 9/11'

A San Bruno, CA man has admitted that he has spent $2,000 for high-speed Internet connectivity to his website so that people can download Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 for free. Marc Perkel told the London Independent that he does not expect to be sued for copyright infringement. "Michael Moore wants me to distribute this," he said, while admitting that he has never actually spoken to Moore. (Moore said in July: "I don't agree with the copyright laws and I don't have a problem with people downloading the movie and sharing it with people as long as they're not trying to make a profit off my labor.") So far, Perkel said, the film has been downloaded 337,756 times ( http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000468.html ). "But I don't count downloads, I count votes. How many voters are converted or how many people are motivated to actually vote? ... I am trying to prevent World War III and possibly the fall of civilization."
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'Fahrenheit 9/11' Available Online Nov. 1

An online pay-per-view showing of Michael Moore's controversial anti-Bush documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" will be released on the eve of the presidential election, the Internet movie provider CinemaNow announced Friday.

Viewers can see the film Monday by logging on to the company's Web site at 8 p.m. EST and paying $9.95, said the company's chief executive officer, Curt Marvis. It also will be made available in December.

"We're thrilled that the people behind 'Fahrenheit 9/11' have recognized the power of digital distribution," Marvis said.

He said Moore and Fellowship Adventure Group, one of the film's distributors, have agreed to donate their share of the profits from Monday's showing to a charity to benefit veterans.

A spokesman for Moore did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Moore had originally struck a deal with the cable pay-per-view company iN DEMAND to show the film as part of a three-hour election eve special, but the company announced two weeks ago that it was dropping the project because of "legitimate business and legal concerns."

Moore accused iN DEMAND of bowing to pressure from Bush supporters.

His film, released on video this month, attacks the president's handling of the war on terrorism and the war in Iraq and criticizes the Bush family's ties to the Saudi royal family. It has earned more than $100 million in theatrical release, a box office record for a documentary.

The Walt Disney Co. refused to release "Fahrenheit 9/11" to theaters through its Miramax Films because it was too politically partisan for the company's taste. Moore eventually released it through Lions Gate Entertainment Corp., IFC Films and Fellowship.

CinemaNow, majority owned by Lions Gate, offers releases from most major studios.
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