Licorice Pizza - Speculation & General Reactions

[pynchonikon]

To be fair we still don't know what this movie is exactly about except an extremely vague concept (70s/San Fernando/high school/Hollywood/politics) in order to define its premise as "uninteresting" or "unexciting" just yet.

[Yes]

To be fair we still don't know what this movie is exactly about except an extremely vague concept (70s/San Fernando/high school/Hollywood/politics) in order to define its premise as "uninteresting" or "unexciting" just yet.

Personal. Opinion.

[Drenk]

Yes, beware with your condescending tone. Whatever your point is, you'll come out as childish. Chill.

[PaulElroy35]

PTA loved Hollywood and is still friendly with QT but I don't think he's ever made a film in response to another director. Maybe that pushed/inspired him but this film was first announced Nov 2019, so he was clearly working on it long before he saw Hollywood.

(I loved Hollywood but I completely understand the divisiveness. And PTA returning to 70s LA is somewhat redundant)

I just wish he made something contemporary (which was rumored here). And like I said, not crazy about the cast.  I avoid all social media discourse but I do dread the inevitable "another white cast" cloud that'll follow this, too.

Just because hes done 2 films set some what in  the 70s before doesnt really make it redundent.

If he was making contemporary  films nonone would say that would be redundent.  As long as the story is different to what hes done before which no doubt it will be the decade its set in doesnt really matter.

I'm suprised how lukewarm it seems people  are on the idea of this film.

He hasn't made a contemporary film since 2002. Society has completely shifted these decades apart? That's why nobody would say it's redundant.

His last 4 films have been period pieces. One of those films takes place exact same era and near location as this film. Boogie Nights also involves 70s. Not sure what else he can get from this time frame? What else is there to explore? Vice was about the melancholy, Boogie about the exuberant pop culture. And considering this involves actors, it's not that much a different story than what he's created before

The decade it set in does matter lol. That's literally context and location.

Or maybe the 70s is  just backdrop.

Plus there is loads more that could be said if he wants to.

Lmao nobody sets a film in 70s for just a backdrop. Come on. That's terrible filmmaking. And not to mention, financially impossible. It makes no sense. Everything has a reason. Every location, setting, etc is the cornerstone of a film. All PTA's period films needed to be so. You can't make Phantom Thread in 2017, Master needed to occur after post-war, There Will Be Blood was during oil boom. I can't believe I need to explain something so obvious. That's just like duh. Basic movies 101. I'm sure PTA has a specific reason since, you know, Jon Peters-esque character is involved, seems to include the gas crisis, cruising culture... all of which were specific to early 70s. I just dont find any of that personally exciting. Definitely not compared to the hype and anticipation of The Master

Ok so the there Is a reason. Why are YOU so naive to think  Paul could only tell 2 stories in the 70s.

I'm not trying to argue and clearly YOU apparently no more than me about filmaking which is cool.  I just think you're dismissing this project and going in negatively  just because of the time frame.

Hard eight
Magnolia
Punch drunk love

All contemporary of their time yet you're not complaining  about him doing 3 films in a similar time as they were.

Why do you keep bringing up these contemporary films to invalidate my opinion lmaoo. There's nothing similar at all about those 3 films. Why would I complain? PDL is a early 2000s film that's shot like a musical with one true main character, Magnolia is a late 90s ensemble and Hard Eight is mid90s film set in a casino. Seeing PTA in 2020s would be interesting since he's never done anything involving current culture, social media, etc. This just makes no sense lol. There's a complete difference between making a film that doesn't need a period setting... you genuinely don't understand that?

Also, dude, I never said Paul could only tell 2 stories in 70s. When you glibly mentioned 70s we're only a backdrop, I rightfully corrected you and said the setting has a meaning. There's a reason this is 70s like I said, but so far many of those reasons don't excite me the way his last films did. I just don't know what more there's to say about Jon Peters, I don't care about 70s car culture. I only hope it's not derivative

Why do you care so much about another man's opinion about a filmmaker you worship? You say you don't want to argue so you shouldn't have posted. I am not dismissing, I wouldn't be here otherwise. I've been a fan longer than you have. The topic was anticipation and I said I'm not anticipating it as much as his other recent films. And timeframe isn't the only reason I gave—the cast is another reason.

Oh my bad didnt realise you had been a fan longer than me. Whoops did I  just put my foot in my mouth.

[Tdog]

This place used to be cool.....

[Alethia]

Yeah could we maybe lock this thread or something until a trailer drops, at least? This is incredibly tiresome.

[PinkTeeth]

To distract ourselves from this long wait:
what would be your ranking of his movies in order of hype/anticipation?
where would soggy fit in this ranking?

I'll never forget the wait for Punch-Drunk Love. I spent hours on that website, listening to those Brion score loops literally for hours on end. And the scopitones and weird Jeremy Blake artwork.. i was so in love with this movie. I think that was even before i started posting on here, and I couldn't find anyone who knew who 'P.T. Anderson' was, so it was just me and this movie, like it was made for the little weirdo I wanted to be and pushed me the right direction. I don't anticipate movies like that anymore.

[wilberfan]

Someone posted this on Reddit today.  (I've never seen this photo before.)  There is speculation about who the kid in the jersey might be.  The guy on the left is part of Adam's crew.  (The orange band on his left leg is part of the Covid protocols--"Zone B", specifically.)  This looks like they weren't finished dressing the location used for Wachs office--"Bamboo Rattan Shops" sign still visible.  Or maybe they were only shooting interiors at this point. It would be interesting to know what day this was taken on.  (Note to Self:  On 4th viewing, look specifically for "#12 guy".) 



(The guy on the left is one of my favorite crew members.  A real mensch.)

[Yes]

I really dont think the kid in jersey is Skyler gisondo but who knows

[wilberfan]

An extra seems more likely to me, but yeah... 

[itwasgood]

Wow the hair looks really like Skyler Gisondo, or maybe his stand in double.

[Rooty Poots]

Doesn't he look taller than Skyler though? I'd also guess he's an extra, but who knows. I wouldn't be shocked either way.

[wilberfan]

I was looking at height too. Crew Dude was tall.  But I don't know who Skyler is--by name, anyway...

[wilberfan]

(Just in case it wasn't a dream.) ;)

https://twitter.com/BadmanWhatever/status/1432539089086124036

[Drenk]

I remember seeing that picture. There was a description, so it may have been on Instagram. The guy with the jersey is possibly just the photographer's friend.