Ocean's Twelve

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modage

#150
December 23, 2004, 09:20:46 AM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanWhat a great heist movie.
you've got to be kidding me!  did you have any idea what this movie was supposed to be about?  did you care about any of the characters or the big scene at the end?  didnt you think it was a random assortment of half-funny scenes cobbled together?  this was NOTHING like the first one!  it was a mess of storytelling and an embarrassing spot on soderberghs career.
Christopher Nolan's directive was clear to everyone in the cast and crew: Use CGI only as a last resort.

Gold Trumpet

#151
December 23, 2004, 11:34:25 AM
Quote from: matt35mmAnd yeah I didn't care about the whole Zeta-Jones/lost dad thing at all.  Were we really supposed to care?

I'll agree with this criticism. The movie is joyful, filled with love for all these characters, but is still irreverant toward the rules of the genre. This subplot felt like a follow through on a cliche uncharacteristic to the rest of the movie.

and modernage, let someone disagree with you.

pete

#152
December 23, 2004, 12:09:20 PM
I thought that was cool though, the story of a thief who wasn't allowed to see his daughter, so he just kept on stealing things to make her find him.
"Tragedy is a close-up; comedy, a long shot."
- Buster Keaton

modage

#153
December 23, 2004, 02:13:42 PM
it was a cool idea, but totally underdeveloped.  like most of the half baked ideas in this movie.
Christopher Nolan's directive was clear to everyone in the cast and crew: Use CGI only as a last resort.

The Perineum Falcon

#154
December 23, 2004, 04:17:22 PM
I enjoyed it, TWICE.

and this is from The Movie Blog, and totally for ModAge:

MTV Movies are carrying a small but interesting story that Producer Jerry Weintraub is interested in doing an Oceans Thirteen.

"The question is, how do you make another one that's better than this one?" he said. "This one's awful good. First one's awful good. We found a way to make a better one this time, I think, so we'll see if we have an idea, a way to do it, and we'll do it."

I haven't seen Twelve yet, but it really does sound good, Eleven was great fun although I am spoiled by loving the Rat Pack and the original. Here's hoping that this is more than the self promotion and that the curse of Police Academy won't kill off his dream.
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modage

#155
December 23, 2004, 04:35:24 PM
Quote from: Producer Jerry WeintraubThis one's awful good.
well, he was half right.
Christopher Nolan's directive was clear to everyone in the cast and crew: Use CGI only as a last resort.

Pozer

#156
December 24, 2004, 01:42:21 AM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetThere, its official, this film is qualified as decent overall.
Hey GT, Master and Commander kicks Oceans twelve's ass.

Gold Trumpet

#157
December 24, 2004, 02:02:30 AM
Quote from: POZER
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetThere, its official, this film is qualified as decent overall.
Hey GT, Master and Commander kicks Oceans twelve's ass.

Hey, I ragged Master and Commander and then gave it a second chance and liked it in many ways. Do the same for Ocean's Twelve.

The Silver Bullet

#158
December 24, 2004, 02:58:50 AM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetHey, I ragged Master and Commander and then gave it a second chance and liked it in many ways.
Oh, did you? I'm interested. Can you link me to your "second chance" comments?
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Pozer

#159
December 26, 2004, 10:53:38 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Quote from: POZER
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetThere, its official, this film is qualified as decent overall.
Hey GT, Master and Commander kicks Oceans twelve's ass.

Hey, I ragged Master and Commander and then gave it a second chance and liked it in many ways. Do the same for Ocean's Twelve.
I will thanks to you and others. But for this film, shitiness reins pretty high in my land of taste. It'll take a pretty strong army of Second Chance to conquer my hate for it.

Gold Trumpet

#160
December 26, 2004, 01:26:38 PM
Quote from: The Silver Bullet
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetHey, I ragged Master and Commander and then gave it a second chance and liked it in many ways.
Oh, did you? I'm interested. Can you link me to your "second chance" comments?

Short memory, friend. Not only did I give the film a second chance, but you also replied to them. You were still arguing me on certain points. But, anything for Silver Bullet. Just click and scroll down, http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=2788&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

Pozer

#161
December 26, 2004, 03:18:30 PM
Interesting, I was going through some emotional problems during the first Oceans and wasn't able to enjoy it 'til later on. I agree with you there, when your mind and feelings are elsewhere, your first reaction is easily affected.

SiliasRuby

#162
January 05, 2005, 01:13:43 AM
Saw this tonight and it was quite entertaining but nothing special....um...ya....I really hope that soderbergh comes out with something totally original after this.
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The Silver Bullet

#163
January 05, 2005, 02:16:12 AM
Quote from: SiliasRubySaw this tonight and it was quite entertaining but nothing special....um...ya....I really hope that soderbergh comes out with something totally original after this.
You spoke too soon: he's remaking [and American-ising] The Dekalog...
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ono

#164
January 05, 2005, 02:20:35 AM
Post of the week.  :yabbse-thumbup:
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