Licorice Pizza - Speculation & General Reactions

[Jeremy Blackman]

It's just jarring how wrongright has a clear agenda—not that this place needs more stanning. There's enough there, but their intentions are blatant. Of course it's still nonsense trolling that should be ignored but still, nonetheless it's very derailing and transparent

I mean, yes, this is clearly someone with a controversial and arguably unreasonable perspective. But that opinion is being expressed in a perfectly civil way.

Maybe this is a galaxy-brain take, but I think LastSnowKing is actually a good counter-example. An actual troll like LSK would hijack any topic in sight, antagonizing and derailing whatever discussion might have happened. As I read wrongright's recent post history, they're posting negative things for sure, but not trying to impose themselves on any specific conversation or person. Rather, it's the responses that seem significantly more toxic to me. For example, wrongright responded in a polite and genuine way to a post that opened with "I should know better and just ignore you." Of course there's a chance I'm wrong, but I just don't see this as someone who is posting in bad faith.

Assuming the worst intentions is not a good path to take here. I'm just saying we have to be a little nicer to each other, and more understanding of potentially wildly different opinions as conversation unfolds here this month.

[Rooty Poots]

I'd go one further and say that I think TheLastSnowKing wasn't as bad as people made her out to be, either. She clearly hated PTA, and obsessively took part in most of the posts about him, but she didn't attack anyone, and always seemed to try to make solid cases for her criticisms (no matter how biased against PTA she actually was). I'll kind of miss her presence in the subreddit.

[Tdog]

There generally needs to be more chill around here. Every few pages an argument starts over something very minor/trivial or tangentially related to LP and then ends up clogging up pages and pages; it's been unsufferable and eye rolling for months; at least once a week when I'm reading this thread I'll think to myself "oh great, here we go again, another 4 page argument that has nothing to do with the actual movie".

I said it a couple of weeks ago but it wasn't like this for Phantom Thread back to The Master, so I don't know if this newfound endlessly argumentative spirit among certain members is due to post Covid lifestyle changes.

[Drill]

https://twitter.com/larainenewman/status/1457357263107067904

[PaulElroy35]

Anyone from here seen the film yet and what are your first thoughts without given anything away?

Also how good are the needle drops?

[HACKANUT]

Deets on Greenwood's score would be very welcome as well 

[pynchonikon]

Deets on Greenwood's score would be very welcome as well 

I'm not sure Greenwood is mentioned in the end credits, but Linda Cohen (music supervisor in all PTAs since TWBB) was just nominated for Best Music Supervision at the Hollywood Music In Media Awards: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11271038/awards/?ref_=tt_awd

I also read that three songs used in the film are

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Life On Mars, Let Me Roll It (Paul McCartney & Wings) and Ac-Cent-Tchu-Ate the Positive (Bing Crosby & The Andrews Sisters).

[itwasgood]

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I'm not sure if this is too much on the spoilers, if it is, please move this to another thread or whatever bin this might belong

Heard from a friend who's lucky to have attended the screening last night:
- Other than Sean Penn and Bradley Cooper, all the big names have got maybe only one minute or two of screentime, 90% of it is about Alana and Gary.
- Film is super funny, he laughed the whole way through.
- He said John C. is in the film.
- This film is dedicated to Robert Downey Sr.

[wrongright]

I'm not really sure what use these social media accounts are if they're not going to post anything. Retweet some positive reactions, show the new poster, post about Alana's interviews...Something, anything.

Someone's getting paid to do the bare minimum.

[PaulElroy35]

I'm not really sure what use these social media accounts are if they're not going to post anything. Retweet some positive reactions, show the new poster, post about Alana's interviews...Something, anything.

Someone's getting paid to do the bare minimum.

Maybe people are busy at the moment.

[Montclair]

https://letterboxd.com/b4ben24/film/licorice-pizza/

"Watched this at the first public screening in 70mm with the Haim sisters and JJ Abrams sitting a row behind me 😱. Somehow this did not feel like a PT Anderson film but yet it felt so similar at the same time. I'm really curious to see what other people think about it. It felt like a straight up John Hughes style film, with a bit of PT Anderson and Spielberg thrown in. In a way, I think it's his most mainstream film, and I find it interesting he mentioned after the screening this was an "easier" project for him to work on, and he was working on something longer and he started to have trouble on it, so he went back to this idea which he has had for 20 years and decided to make it with his friends at "home". So many celebrities kids are in this movie it gets kinda overloaded. I'll be watching it again later this week, so I'll be thinking more about this. But don't expect this to be anything like his other films in terms of genre."

Yeah, think I might wait for this to hit video. But, whatever his "longer and more difficult" project is after this, I'm definitely seeing in the theater.

[wrongright]

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"The film meanders, but that's part of its charm. I liked the "Lady Bird" comparisons. "Licorice Pizza" felt like a mix between Gerwig's film, Linklater's "Everybody Wants Some" and "Fast Times at Ridgemont High." It's a hangout movie with a very big heart and a highly emotional payoff. It does feel like the most minimally realized but personal movie of his career. It's not striving for greatness as much as artful comfort food. The photography elevates everything though, the tracking shots are stunning. There are some groovy '70s needle drops, including a killer moment with Paul McCartney's "Let Me Roll It To You." Safdie as Joel Wachs actually has the most emotionally resonant scene of the film near the end. Yes, there is not necessarily a story to speak of here. It's just bits and pieces, bits and pieces, etc.  But there IS this undercurrent all through it, which is that they like each other a lot but no nookie because of the age gap. I went with it and was rewarded with an enormous amount of pleasures. it's anecdotal with lots of cultural pointilism and also a interesting and exciting capture of the 1973–'74 San Fernando Valley. It is interesting that Alana Haim is called "Alana Haim" in the film. And yet Cooper Hoffman is called "Gary Valentine" (i.e., not Goetzman). As for the age gap controversy you mentioned, the whole film hinders on that sexual connection, all through it, until the very end when there's this big emotional payoff."

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2021/11/fyhjxedja144sc0lu1teq96o48ax1t

Yeah, it doesn't sound like an Oscar film at all. Might've been better to release it during the spring/summer?

[pynchonikon]

I believe this should go directly to VOD, looks like a TV-production.

[PaulElroy35]

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"The film meanders, but that's part of its charm. I liked the "Lady Bird" comparisons. "Licorice Pizza" felt like a mix between Gerwig's film, Linklater's "Everybody Wants Some" and "Fast Times at Ridgemont High." It's a hangout movie with a very big heart and a highly emotional payoff. It does feel like the most minimally realized but personal movie of his career. It's not striving for greatness as much as artful comfort food. The photography elevates everything though, the tracking shots are stunning. There are some groovy '70s needle drops, including a killer moment with Paul McCartney's "Let Me Roll It To You." Safdie as Joel Wachs actually has the most emotionally resonant scene of the film near the end. Yes, there is not necessarily a story to speak of here. It's just bits and pieces, bits and pieces, etc.  But there IS this undercurrent all through it, which is that they like each other a lot but no nookie because of the age gap. I went with it and was rewarded with an enormous amount of pleasures. it's anecdotal with lots of cultural pointilism and also a interesting and exciting capture of the 1973–'74 San Fernando Valley. It is interesting that Alana Haim is called "Alana Haim" in the film. And yet Cooper Hoffman is called "Gary Valentine" (i.e., not Goetzman). As for the age gap controversy you mentioned, the whole film hinders on that sexual connection, all through it, until the very end when there's this big emotional payoff."

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2021/11/fyhjxedja144sc0lu1teq96o48ax1t

Yeah, it doesn't sound like an Oscar film at all. Might've been better to release it during the spring/summer?

Yet a bunch are saying it is Oscar worthy so we probabaly best just wait to find out ourselves innit

[PaulElroy35]

I believe this should go directly to VOD, looks like a TV-production.

Is everyone just doing a wrongright now and just be negative haha