The Passion Of The Christ

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Ghostboy

#225
February 18, 2004, 01:11:50 PM
Hmmm. So technically, Christians should be thanking the Jews or the Romans or whoever did the deed.

SoNowThen

#226
February 18, 2004, 01:13:58 PM
And Romans are essentially Italians, aren't they?

So: thank you Italians and Jews. For pasta, pizza, Natalie Portman, and killing Jesus.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

Ghostboy

#227
February 18, 2004, 01:16:12 PM
Brilliant!

MacGuffin

#228
February 18, 2004, 01:46:04 PM
Quote from: ShanghaiOrangeSomeone may have posted this already, but it doesn't matter who killed Jesus, because the whole point was that he was supposed to be killed.

What this movie presupposes is...maybe he wasn't.
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ShanghaiOrange

#229
February 19, 2004, 06:58:01 PM
Jesus Christ!  :(
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Stefen

#230
February 19, 2004, 09:54:25 PM
Furor just before Gibson's 'The Passion' opens



By TRACY CONNOR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER


Hutton Gibson  

A week before Mel Gibson's movie about Jesus Christ hits theaters, his father has gone on an explosive rant against Jews - claiming they fabricated the Holocaust and are conspiring to take over the world.
"They're after one world religion and one world government," Hutton Gibson, 85, said in a radio interview that will air Monday night.

"That's why they've attacked the Catholic Church so strongly, to ultimately take control over it by their doctrine."

In the bizarre interview, Gibson also said Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan should be lynched and called for the government to be overthrown.

The movie star's father has made outrageous statements about the Holocaust and Jewish conspiracies before.

But the timing of his latest comments is certain to fuel the uproar over his son's movie, "The Passion of The Christ," which opens Ash Wednesday.

Some critics say the movie blames Jews for the death of Christ and will provoke anti-Semitism, and they question why Mel Gibson hasn't denounced his father's views.

Hutton Gibson spoke Monday to Steve Feuerstein of "Speak Your Piece!" on WSNR (620 AM), a show syndicated by Talkline, the largest syndicator of Jewish programming.

Some of his most outrageous rants focused on the millions of Jews exterminated by Adolf Hitler.

"They claimed that there were 6.2 million in Poland before the war, and they claimed after the war there were 200,000 - therefore he must have killed 6 million of them," he said. "They simply got up and left! They were all over the Bronx and Brooklyn and Sydney, Australia, and Los Angeles."

He said the Germans did not have enough gas to cremate 6 million people and that the concentration camps were just "work camps."

"It's all - maybe not all fiction - but most of it is," he said.

Gibson repeatedly smeared prominent Jews as money-grubbing power-mongers.

"Greenspan tells us what to do. Someone should take him out and hang him."

He even belittled the Pope's reported endorsement of "The Passion," recounting how Mel referred to the pontiff as an "ass."

Gibson reserved most of his vitriol for Judaism, asking: "Is the Jew still actively anti-Christian? He is, for by being a Jew, he is anti-everyone else."

Mel Gibson's spokesman, Alan Nierob, had no comment on the elder Gibson's tirade.

But Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League said they were the words of a "classical anti-Semite."

"If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny," he said.

He's troubled by Mel Gibson's failure to condemn his father's beliefs, and pointed to a recent interview where Gibson said his dad never lied to him.

"Well, he's been lying to the world, but it sounds like truth to the son? That's strange," Foxman said.

Originally published on February 19, 2004


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/165923p-145217c.html
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ono

#231
February 19, 2004, 09:57:47 PM
Okay.

MacGuffin

#232
February 19, 2004, 10:01:51 PM
Gibson Expands 'Passion' Screens

LOS ANGELES - Mel Gibson is adding 800 theaters to the debut of his controversial Crucifixion drama, "The Passion of the Christ," next Wednesday.

The $25 million film, which Gibson co-wrote, directed and financed, had been set to open in about 2,000 locations, but distributor Newmarket Films and Gibson's Icon Productions said new theaters have been added to keep up with demand for advance tickets.

"It's really picked up in the last couple of days," Newmarket chief Bob Berney said in the trade newspaper Variety on Thursday. "A lot of what we've been hearing (from theater chains) is that instead of two prints we want four. They anticipate a much bigger opening, and they want to be able to handle it."
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Five clips about The Making Of here.

More info:
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Ghostboy

#233
February 19, 2004, 10:02:24 PM
Yikes. I wouldn't be surprised if Mel said something now. Unless he shares the beliefs...in which case my support for him ends.

The Perineum Falcon

#234
February 19, 2004, 10:36:49 PM
Quote from: GhostboyYikes. I wouldn't be surprised if Mel said something now. Unless he shares the beliefs...in which case my support for him ends.
I believe he sort of responded to/disagreed with his father's beliefs on the Holocaust in the Diane Sawyer interview. If my memory serves me, she asked if he believed the Holocaust happened, Mel said, "yes." She then asked if 6 million Jews were killed, to which he responded, "Sure."
We often went to the cinema, the screen would light up and we would tremble, but also, increasingly often, Madeleine and I were disappointed. The images had dated, they jittered, and Marilyn Monroe had gotten terribly old. We were sad, this wasn't the film we had dreamed of, this wasn't the total film that we all carried around inside us, this film that we would have wanted to make, or, more secretly, no doubt, that we would have wanted to live.

ono

#235
February 19, 2004, 10:45:58 PM
Quote from: ranemaka13She then asked if 6 million Jews were killed, to which he responded, "Sure."
"Sure" is the answer you want to give when you don't want to say "yes," but saying "no" will get you in a lot of trouble.

The Perineum Falcon

#236
February 19, 2004, 10:54:45 PM
Yeah, I know, I was leaving that up for Ghostboy to decide. He also seemed rather hesitant at answering her question. I suppose I should've added that to my previous post.
But I don't think Mel's anti-semitic, and I don't believe his movie is intentionally against Jews either.
We often went to the cinema, the screen would light up and we would tremble, but also, increasingly often, Madeleine and I were disappointed. The images had dated, they jittered, and Marilyn Monroe had gotten terribly old. We were sad, this wasn't the film we had dreamed of, this wasn't the total film that we all carried around inside us, this film that we would have wanted to make, or, more secretly, no doubt, that we would have wanted to live.

Jeremy Blackman

#237
February 19, 2004, 11:01:21 PM
The "sure" answer is a little suspicious. That's not something you say when you're talking about the holocaust.

Unless he completely denounces all that stuff, I have to suspect that some of his father's beliefs have rubbed off on him.

modage

#238
February 19, 2004, 11:03:51 PM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanThe "sure" answer is a little suspicious. That's not something you say when you're talking about the holocaust.
haha, yeah totally.  "oh, holocaust, sure...right, when all the jews died, sure, sure"  yeah, hahah that doesnt really feel right.
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Ghostboy

#239
February 19, 2004, 11:13:06 PM
Yeah, I just went back and read that interview...that was not a good answer on Mel's part. And although I understand if he didn't want to say anything bad about his father, that was before his dad's public comments, which will do Gibson no good at all. He needs to make some sincere damage control statements, and fast.
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