The Hangover Part II

[Ravi]

Last time Mel gibson showed up at the theatres in that insufferable edge of darkness crap, people filled the seats and ate it all up.

"Filled the seats and ate it all up?"

[Reel]

 I guess I'm not the only one who listened to those phone calls and thought "this guys due for a comedy"

[polkablues]

If it's not about self righteousness on the part of the hangover crew (which it is), is about it on the part of the mass media in USA and theoritcaly on the american public. I say "in theory" because until gibson shows up in another movie, nobody KNOWS for sure what the response will be. My hunch is that the media will make a lot of fuss about it as they usually do and the normal people wont give a shit and show up to a mel Gibson movie because he is still one of the biggest stars in the world, a dying breed, actually.

In fact, if this poll (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/30/60minutes/main6819188.shtmlutm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CBSNewsGamecore+%28GameCore%3A+CBSnews.com%29) is any indication, no one really cares about it in terms of not going to see Gibson to the movies anymore. So is not really a business decision at all.

And one of the reasons The Beaver is not getting a wide release soon is precisely this form of pre-censorship. Last time Mel gibson showed up at the theatres in that insufferable edge of darkness crap, people filled the seats and ate it all up.

and yes, the hangover 2 will be retarded, it's probably better for his career. this is a bizarre world.

I'm not arguing that it was a business decision in the sense of whether audiences would go to see Gibson or not.  I have no real doubt that they would.  But when you have a film franchise that a studio is banking on to make them big money for the foreseeable future, it's in their best interest to keep the critical elements of that franchise, in this case the cast, happy.  Whether or not any of us agrees that Mel Gibson's behavior warrants blacklisting of any sort, the returning cast is more important to the success of the film than a Mel Gibson cameo would be.  

As for the issue of censorship, this is not censorship.  Were the state of California to pass a law saying that Mel Gibson is a jerk and so should be outlawed from being in Hollywood productions, that would be censorship.  A studio deciding to hold off release of a movie or to decide against putting him in one is not censorship, it's business.  Even if audiences are clamoring for more Mel after all, no one is required to put him in movies who doesn't want to.

[Pas]

has committed no crime.

Nah man I like Gibson the actor. Even that Edge of Darkness crap was pretty good I thought.

But he committed a bunch of crimes. At the very, very, least he's a drunk driving anti-semite. 

[Gold Trumpet]

And polls don't matter either. Even if most people say they don't care when they answer polls (how reliable are they anyways?), all it takes is a bunch of groups to protest the movie for it to get a bad rep in coverage and create an unnecessary dent in the film's box office. I don't understand how someone can go to town with defending this guy. At best, he needs to take more time off and just go away for a while. Considerng most experts were predicting his career was over when the fallout happened, he should be happy to think all he needs is a five-to-ten year hiatus.

[Alexandro]

I'm not defending Mel Gibson or any of his supposed bad deeds.
But I am saying that the cast of the hangover, who are the ones who started complaining, are self righteous idiots.
Yes, in the end is a business thing, but it is a decision taken as a consequence of those guys suddenly becoming conscious or whatever of not putting a "drunk driving anti semite" in their comedy about drunk driving maniacs in vegas. that is what pisses me off and no argument will convince me otherwise on that.
and it is censorship. self-censorship, which is the worst kind there is.

[Ravi]

Hollywood would end if every star had to be a sane, morally upright citizen.

[Pubrick]

if tyson had raped a JEWISH woman, then it would be a different story.

mel pissed off the wrong ppl.

history has shown that hollywood would much sooner embrace a rapist than an anti-semite.

[polkablues]

Fuck, don't even get me started on Polanski.

[Gold Trumpet]

But I am saying that the cast of the hangover, who are the ones who started complaining, are self righteous idiots.
Yes, in the end is a business thing, but it is a decision taken as a consequence of those guys suddenly becoming conscious or whatever of not putting a "drunk driving anti semite" in their comedy about drunk driving maniacs in vegas.

Yea, what Mel Gibson said to the cop and his girlfriend is equivalent or even comparable to the jokes in the Hangover...not even close. The actors are fine for feeling like they have to stand up to his being hired. Hollywood itself may be a little hypocritical for how they accept other alleged felons, but I don't see the hypocrisy here and that's with them hiring Mike Tyson, too.

[pete]

tyson served his time and fell hard.  mel has barely begun his fall yet.  give him time; he'll get there.

[MacGuffin]

Mel Gibson 'Furious' About Being Booted From 'The Hangover 2' Todd Phillips Says Decision Boosted Morale On Set
Source: The Playlist

With all the fuss in the last week over the hiring of Mel Gibson for a key cameo as a tattoo artist in the Bangkok-set sequel to the surprise comedy hit "The Hangover," and his subsequent swift booting from the role, following protests by the cast and crew, in favor of the more stable, less repellent Liam Neeson, one thing's been forgotten: were the poor little racist's feelings hurt by the controversy? The answer, unsurprisingly, is yes. Page Six report that Gibson is "furious" at the producers of the film for kicking him out, a source close to Gibson telling the gossip column "He doesn't understand why Mike Tyson, a drug user who turned his life around, was given a chance while Mel was kicked to the curb. Everybody deserves a second chance." Or in Gibson's case, a fifth chance. In fairness to the actor, many others have raised the comparison with Tyson, and there is a degree of hypocrisy at work, considering the lack of outcry over the presence of convicted rapist Tyson in the first film. We'll give you that one, Mel. Now please, stop calling. Alan Nierob, who's the publicist for both Gibson and Neeson, also released a statement with a jibe at the unruly objectors on "The Hangover 2," saying that Neeson had been hired "pending clearance of cast and crew background check." So if any dirt turns up on Neeson in the next few weeks, we'll know that Justin Bartha's private investigator is pretty thorough. On the plus side, Todd Phillips, speaking on the issue during promotional duties for the imminent "Due Date" with Cinematical, says that the mood on set hasn't been altered too much by the controversy. While he complains of the new-found attention paid to the sequel, considering how under-the-radar the first film was, he says "No, it doesn't affect morale on the set in any way; in fact, it's quite the opposite, because it's about morale that certain decisions get made. It's about saying, hey, we're a team on this -we're all together on this." "The Hangover 2" hits theaters almost exactly seven months from now, on May 27th, 2011. And for the record, a list of the things that Mel Gibson is furious about currently runs to: being fired from "The Hangover 2," the mother of his child, his ex-wife, the tabloid press, Barack Obama, the lack of awards recognition for "Apocalypto," the Dallas Cowboys' performance against the New York Giants last night, the delay of the release of Jodie Foster's "The Beaver," a lack of oral sex, the poor quality of oral sex he does receive, Martin Campbell's refusal to let him perform all the dialogue in "Edge of Darkness" in Sanskrit, NBC's "Outsourced" (because of the quantity of Asians in the cast, rather than because it's not funny), the sun rising, the sun setting, having his eggs overcooked, the choice of Zack Snyder to direct "Superman," the lack of choruses on the second MGMT album, the building work his neighbors are having done, the shitty reception on his iPhone, Joe Pesci, having to wait another six months for "Tree of Life," the Rocky Horror-themed episode of "Glee," trick-or-treaters, the snooty cashier in Whole Foods, the way Carey Mulligan crossed the street to avoid him when all he wanted to say was how much he liked "An Education," the Iranian influence in Afghanistan, Amazon still not having delivered his copy of the complete lyrics of Stephen Sondheim, Danny Glover no longer returning his phone calls, brown paper packages tied up with string, and the Jews.

[diggler]

what helps your image more, being in Hangover II or being fired from it?

[Stefen]

^lol.

[Pubrick]

i'll tell you what would help the PLAYLIST's image more, getting rid of shit like this:

And for the record, a list of the things that Mel Gibson is furious about currently runs to: being fired from "The Hangover 2," the mother of his child, his ex-wife, the tabloid press, Barack Obama, the lack of awards recognition for "Apocalypto," the Dallas Cowboys' performance against the New York Giants last night, the delay of the release of Jodie Foster's "The Beaver," a lack of oral sex, the poor quality of oral sex he does receive, Martin Campbell's refusal to let him perform all the dialogue in "Edge of Darkness" in Sanskrit, NBC's "Outsourced" (because of the quantity of Asians in the cast, rather than because it's not funny), the sun rising, the sun setting, having his eggs overcooked, the choice of Zack Snyder to direct "Superman," the lack of choruses on the second MGMT album, the building work his neighbors are having done, the shitty reception on his iPhone, Joe Pesci, having to wait another six months for "Tree of Life," the Rocky Horror-themed episode of "Glee," trick-or-treaters, the snooty cashier in Whole Foods, the way Carey Mulligan crossed the street to avoid him when all he wanted to say was how much he liked "An Education," the Iranian influence in Afghanistan, Amazon still not having delivered his copy of the complete lyrics of Stephen Sondheim, Danny Glover no longer returning his phone calls, brown paper packages tied up with string, and the Jews.