Tron: Legacy

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http://www.firstshowing.net/2010/07/22/must-watch-awesome-new-full-length-tron-legacy-trailer/

Jeff Bridges has CG Polar Express face. 

[matt35mm]

I was vaguely interested in watching this until I saw that.  The CG young Jeff Bridges is such a big misstep.  It looks especially ridiculous in the "real world" scene with the kid.

Boo.

[RegularKarate]

This still looks spectacular.

Jeff Bridges has CG Polar Express face. 

Dude, we've known this since the beginning.  It was in both previous trailers.  The second looked way better than the first and this one looks a great deal better than the second.  They work on CG up until the release.  They'll probably get it even better by then.

That said, he's supposed to be artificial.  He's not who he's supposed to be so him looking unreal fits.

Haters checking out too early should take a deep breath.

[matt35mm]

He's supposed to be real in the scene with the kid.

I didn't really know that he was going to be CG.  I haven't really read too much about the film and I don't recall seeing it in the previous trailers... at least not in such detail.

All the other visuals do look great.  But I can't get on board with that CG Jeff thing.  Even if they get it better by the film's release, it'll never look real, and with so much interaction with real actors, it's going to be distracting.

[MacGuffin]

New Trailer

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why didn't they make the faces a modern version of what they did in the past? why we gotta be so sexy these days...

[RegularKarate]

I hear the buzz on this one is not so good.

What a bummer.

[Pubrick]

I hear the buzz on this one is not so good.

What a bummer.

can you elaborate?

i refuse to believe that it will be TOTAL CRAP cos it just looks so damn good. but i can see some potential hazards..

-the acting of the young dude, who even is he? no one that's who.
-endless fight sequences that may lose the "thrill" of the nascent technology that was being displayed in the original
-lack of internal logic not yet apparent in the trailer.

if it can overcome that last hurdle it should be good, do we know the running time yet? anything over 2hrs and this might suffer from dragging on. at which point we can call it as DOA.

[RegularKarate]

can you elaborate?

Obviously, it's not much, but at Fantastic Fest, there were a lot of people talking about how it was supposed to show there, but the studio lost faith in the movie and wants to avoid bad buzz from advance screenings.

They pulled the Blu-ray release of the original Tron (and you can no longer rent the DVD from Netflix) because they were afraid it would dissuade newer audiences from seeing this one even though this one is a direct sequel that requires knowing about the first film.

Still looking forward to it.  Just trying to not get too excited.

[Ravi]

They pulled the Blu-ray release of the original Tron (and you can no longer rent the DVD from Netflix) because they were afraid it would dissuade newer audiences from seeing this one even though this one is a direct sequel that requires knowing about the first film.

That could be a problem.  Tron came out 28 years ago, and while its been available on video since then, its not like its a perennial classic.  I'm sure there are a lot of people who haven't seen Tron.  I didn't see it until my first or second year of college, and I only knew about it from that Simpsons episode in which Homer becomes 3D and everyone says "no" when he asked them if they'd seen Tron.  Hopefully it works as a standalone film.

[Stefen]

I have never seen Tron. I'm kind of interested in this one because it looks cool, but I don't want to pay $16 to watch it in 3-D if it's bad and/or doesn't make sense.

[polkablues]

I'm still not clear on what looks good about this movie. Tron was a product of its time, and while a visual feast, it was not a very good movie. Yeah, Daft Punk is cool, but what part of Garret Whodlund playing space frisbee on neon Vespas in a 1980s computer world screams QUALITY THEATRICAL EXPERIENCE?

[The Perineum Falcon]

I've never made it thru Tron either; I'd rather sleep or have sex with my girlfriend. I had to send it back to Netflix without having finished it 'cause it was holding up my queue.

I still plan on seeing this. It "looks" better and doesn't seem too complicated.....

Yeah, Daft Punk is cool, but what part of Garret Whodlund playing space frisbee on neon Vespas in a 1980s computer world screams QUALITY THEATRICAL EXPERIENCE?

the 3D part???

[socketlevel]

bah this went the way of bullshit, the original looks better. in the commentary for the original tron the director made a really good point, he states that since the technology was limited at that time it forced them to be creative. like the entire world was created to be a unique vision because they didn't have photorealism with CG at that time. the new movie is building on the aesthetic of something developed with inferior technology, but the irony is the inferior technology created the universe the new one depicts. i would like to see a contemporary movie, with no limitations, try to create the visual palette of something like tron. this kind movie coming out of holywood now is something like 300, which is a fucking lame and safe aesthetic. people always create stuff inspired when they are forced to work in tight parameters.

i can only imagine a director being laughed out of the pitch session by studio execs. He/she sits there trying to pass on an idea of creating a world in which hard core minimalist geometrics, in this case polygons, as the main building block for the mise en scene. good luck.

don't knock tron because, and I'm calling it, anything good in the new film will exist only because the original "looks worse". everything disappointing in the new trailer comes from them modernising the film. no more monochromatic washes on the actor's faces for instance, or the lame leather suits instead of the radiant glowing in the first film.  i love how the original film had this digital to analog flicker which creates inconsistencies in the effects. it feels like a film projector running a digital environment.

if you think I'm just being a purest, compare for yourself the original star wars trilogy lightsaber to that of the new trilogy. one hums with light, pulsing because of how they did it and the other is a solid CG animated glow. which do you prefer? tron legacy will be forgotten because it lacks the visionary drive the original had; instead they will focus on "making the original look better" when they could try and push the envelope.

[Stefen]

in the commentary for the original tron the director made a really good point, he states that since the technology was limited at that time it forced them to be creative. like the entire world was created to be a unique vision because they didn't have photorealism with CG at that time.

This is pretty much my beef with all visual effects these days. Back in the day, filmmakers had to be creative to get shit done. Look at guys like Gilliam. Imagine if they just said fuck it, we'll cg it. That would have sucked.