The Dreamers

Started by MacGuffin, December 19, 2003, 09:28:32 PM

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#90
March 16, 2004, 09:23:05 AM
I feel your pain Thrindle.  I live in a small town in Upper Michigan.  Most people in the United States think we are part of Canada and we rarely get good films here. When we do, they are only here for a week.  I have wanted to see The Barbarian Invasions for a while and it still hasn't come here, so I know how that goes.

Gold Trumpet

#91
March 16, 2004, 10:47:41 AM
Quote from: Pubricki agree. let's chill and continue the good reviewing. i only posted after ur retraction to clear up GT's argument-perpetuating "assault" comment.

For the record, what I said was a joke. My humor continues to allude...

I finally saw the Dreamers though. It was a pretty bad film overall. Interest to the situation where the three people explore sex so casually didn't elevate it beyond the very unbelievable plot set up. When Eva Green got naked, I was happy. By the last time she got naked, I was tired of seeing her body. Too much casual nudity for even a soft core porno. Of course, the film was trying to be more.

Artistically, I saw a love letter to 60s cinema beyond the characters quoting films. Almost all the situations seemed to mirror one film or another. The dramatic threesome tangle mirrored Jules et Jim, the exploration of sex Last Tango in Paris. Eva Green seemed like she was hired on the spot because she replicated Jeanne Moreau so well (role was written for a young Moreau anyways). The first sex scene where blood was rubbed over the face hinted at Cries and Whispers. The dramatic purposes was different in both films, but the same in the effect of shock and awe.

I really enjoyed the movie at the beginning when it was running though the history and life of times I frankly wish I was apart of. It was a great feeling of nostalgia. Then the film did try to become something but in the lackluster story of what I thought was an easy way to explore sex, I saw conventional set ups and pretensious ideas. There was no heart at the center of this film that intrigued me.

Chest Rockwell

#92
March 26, 2004, 05:24:56 PM
Well I just saw it (my first NC-17 film), and I liked it. I saw some real respect/love for the times and the cinema therein. I don't know, I can't quite explain yet what made me like it. I have to think about it some.

Just Withnail

#93
March 26, 2004, 06:39:42 PM
Just came back from this an hour ago. Got to say I liked it, yet it was a let down. Too high on the expectations I guess. All the teeny tiny details and nods to various movies were the great parts, as was the music, and the film's ability to make me feel like I was there, in the sixties (or ache inside, for not having been able to be there). But at the end, that was about it. The sex was nice, but I went out of the theater thinking more about the movies and the era The Dreamers was honoring, than the film itself.

tpfkabi

#94
March 28, 2004, 01:08:19 AM
here is a page with 3 pics from the film.
Eva Green looks amazing in that 2nd pic.
i guess she has on long black gloves in that pic and since it makes her arms disappear into the shadows, it reminds me of a Greek statue.
i don't really know how to make a pic appear on a different page, so here is the link:
http://www.cinefile.biz/dreamer.htm
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#95
March 28, 2004, 01:11:04 AM
The first shot, the one with that set of three connected mirrors, that's the one I was referring to, one of the scenes that really blew my mind as I was watching this film.  The film has already come and gone in my town, though, so here's hoping for a quick DVD release.  I really want to see this thing again and again.  That Venus De Milo shot was amazing, too.

Chest Rockwell

#96
March 28, 2004, 06:24:30 AM
Yea, I loved both shots quite a bit.

godardian

#97
March 28, 2004, 01:26:20 PM
That three-mirrors shot is, indeed, perhaps the most memorable of all the beautifully composed shots in the this beautiful film...

Still my favorite of the year (out of the new movies, that is).
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SiliasRuby

#98
April 22, 2004, 10:14:37 PM
I don't think this has been posted so here it goes...
Source: DigitalBits.com
Bernardo Bertolucci's The Dreamers (NC-17 version) for 7/13. The Dreamers will include anamorphic widescreen video, Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, audio commentary by director Bernardo Bertolucci, writer Gilbert Adair and producer Jeremy Thomas, 2 featurettes (Events of May '68 and The Making of The Dreamers), Michael Pitt's Hey Joe music video, the theatrical trailer and trailers for other Fox titles.
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#99
April 28, 2004, 08:56:33 AM
Quote from: SiliasRubyBernardo Bertolucci's The Dreamers (NC-17 version) for 7/13. The Dreamers will include anamorphic widescreen video, Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, audio commentary by director Bernardo Bertolucci, writer Gilbert Adair and producer Jeremy Thomas, 2 featurettes (Events of May '68 and The Making of The Dreamers), Michael Pitt's Hey Joe music video, the theatrical trailer and trailers for other Fox titles.



A standard theatrical cut will also be available from the same day, with identical features.

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#100
April 28, 2004, 09:06:56 AM
Oh man, don't you just love the colour changes for each case? And the small little imagine on the top left hand side that's different.. How subtle.

cron

#101
April 28, 2004, 09:14:02 AM
altough i would've prefered the UK cover on the DVD, this isn't bad at all.

And the Rated cover looks better than the Unrated one....  :(
context, context, context.

SoNowThen

#102
April 28, 2004, 09:20:49 AM
Since when was this movie a "thriller"?

Honestly, they have to stop putting review quotes on boxcovers.
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When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

cine

#103
April 28, 2004, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: cronopioAnd the Rated cover looks better than the Unrated one....  :(

Well, I see the unrated one looking like 21 Grams. And the theatrical cut looks to very much like 24 Hour Party People, colour-wise.

godardian

#104
April 28, 2004, 09:26:40 AM
Quote from: SoNowThenSince when was this movie a "thriller"?

Honestly, they have to stop putting review quotes on boxcovers.

It is hardly "steamy," "erotic," OR a "thriller" in the cover-blurb sense (where they mean, "It's just like Basic Instinct!"). This is total Miramax-ism, where they create horrifically ugly and misleading cover art and take blurbs all out of context to make you think Velvet Goldmine is a murder mystery or that Exotica is sofctore porn.

I like the image okay, hate the blurbs. I will, of course, be buying it.
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

Stay informed on protecting your freedom of speech and civil rights.
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