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Reply #390 on: June 20, 2020, 12:57:55 PM
The Unexpected Story Behind Philip Seymour Hoffman’s Improvised ‘The Master’ Line

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“I have so many good memories from that, but one that sticks out that I’ll never forget is there’s this sequence in the movie where they go to this fundraiser and someone speaks out against Dodd,” Plemons said. “He starts badgering him and berating him with questions. We’d been shooting that scene for a long time; it was almost lunch. Paul usually does quite a few takes, and it seemed like Phil was reaching a point where [he] didn’t know what he wanted. Paul had to just walk up to [him], look at his hairline, and pluck a hair out. Like, what the fuck?”

Plucking out Hoffman’s hair sounds unusual, but Anderson knew what needed to be done in order to coax the performance out of Hoffman. The hair plucking did the tick, as Plemons remembers Hoffman nailing the next take with an improvised line that would impress everyone on set and become one of “The Master’s” most shocking moments.

“With the next take he reached a place that he hadn’t in previous takes, and out comes the ‘pig fuck’ line: ‘You pig fuck!,’ Plemons said. “Then it was like, ‘Alright, that’s lunch!’ We were all just totally in awe, mouths on the floor.”

The “pig fuck” line was so memorable that Anderson kept it in when the scene in question had to be reshot at a later date in a different location with a different actor opposite Hoffman. Plemons added, “I think about that a lot. Just one of a kind, no one like him,” while also calling Hoffman “so generous, nice, and focused.”


I love these stories of different ways that Anderson directs and interacts with actors


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Reply #391 on: June 20, 2020, 05:05:18 PM


So after 5 years, it's quite amusing/sad to watch this interview, because RIP PSH, and Haha @ Weinstein Q.  It's fluffy, but at least he got some press.

Also Rose was #MeTooed too.


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Reply #392 on: June 20, 2020, 05:28:50 PM


So after 5 years, it's quite amusing/sad to watch this interview, because RIP PSH, and Haha @ Weinstein Q.  It's fluffy, but at least he got some press.

Also Rose was #MeTooed too.


That was always one of the more awkward interviews. It mostly seemed to consist of them asking almost in an annoyed way of why he made a difficult film.


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Reply #393 on: June 20, 2020, 07:56:12 PM
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The “pig fuck” line was so memorable that Anderson kept it in when the scene in question had to be reshot at a later date in a different location with a different actor opposite Hoffman.

I wonder what the scene was like the first time, who the other actor was, and why they re-shot it. At this point it’s hard to picture someone other than Christopher Evan Welch in that scene.

I would die for access to the PTA vault. I want to see all the early Dano-less CMBB stuff, the deleted magnolia stuff, and really just raw footage and audio between takes of him directing, watching him work with the actors and seeing them try out different shit. And I’m sure there are plenty of deleted / reshot scenes that we don’t even know about.


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Reply #394 on: June 21, 2020, 12:02:17 AM
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The “pig fuck” line was so memorable that Anderson kept it in when the scene in question had to be reshot at a later date in a different location with a different actor opposite Hoffman.

I wonder what the scene was like the first time, who the other actor was, and why they re-shot it. At this point it’s hard to picture someone other than Christopher Evan Welch in that scene.

I would die for access to the PTA vault. I want to see all the early Dano-less CMBB stuff, the deleted magnolia stuff, and really just raw footage and audio between takes of him directing, watching him work with the actors and seeing them try out different shit. And I’m sure there are plenty of deleted / reshot scenes that we don’t even know about.

Or the deleted scenes/subplot in Phantom Thread with Reynolds' children.


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Reply #395 on: June 21, 2020, 12:53:38 AM
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The “pig fuck” line was so memorable that Anderson kept it in when the scene in question had to be reshot at a later date in a different location with a different actor opposite Hoffman.

I wonder what the scene was like the first time, who the other actor was, and why they re-shot it. At this point it’s hard to picture someone other than Christopher Evan Welch in that scene.

I would die for access to the PTA vault. I want to see all the early Dano-less CMBB stuff, the deleted magnolia stuff, and really just raw footage and audio between takes of him directing, watching him work with the actors and seeing them try out different shit. And I’m sure there are plenty of deleted / reshot scenes that we don’t even know about.

Or the deleted scenes/subplot in Phantom Thread with Reynolds' children.

Link to this? Never heard of this one


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Reply #396 on: June 21, 2020, 05:31:41 AM
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The “pig fuck” line was so memorable that Anderson kept it in when the scene in question had to be reshot at a later date in a different location with a different actor opposite Hoffman.

I wonder what the scene was like the first time, who the other actor was, and why they re-shot it. At this point it’s hard to picture someone other than Christopher Evan Welch in that scene.

I would die for access to the PTA vault. I want to see all the early Dano-less CMBB stuff, the deleted magnolia stuff, and really just raw footage and audio between takes of him directing, watching him work with the actors and seeing them try out different shit. And I’m sure there are plenty of deleted / reshot scenes that we don’t even know about.

Or the deleted scenes/subplot in Phantom Thread with Reynolds' children.

Was it shot amd taken out by Tichenor or was it just in the script and unused. I remember somebody in the production mentioning it in an interview but I can't remember who.
Glad it was cut anyway, it would have made Reynolds irredeemably unlikeable in my mind, had it been in the final movie.


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Reply #397 on: June 21, 2020, 11:30:21 AM
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The “pig fuck” line was so memorable that Anderson kept it in when the scene in question had to be reshot at a later date in a different location with a different actor opposite Hoffman.

I wonder what the scene was like the first time, who the other actor was, and why they re-shot it. At this point it’s hard to picture someone other than Christopher Evan Welch in that scene.

I would die for access to the PTA vault. I want to see all the early Dano-less CMBB stuff, the deleted magnolia stuff, and really just raw footage and audio between takes of him directing, watching him work with the actors and seeing them try out different shit. And I’m sure there are plenty of deleted / reshot scenes that we don’t even know about.

Or the deleted scenes/subplot in Phantom Thread with Reynolds' children.

Was it shot amd taken out by Tichenor or was it just in the script and unused. I remember somebody in the production mentioning it in an interview but I can't remember who.
Glad it was cut anyway, it would have made Reynolds irredeemably unlikeable in my mind, had it been in the final movie.


Wasn't there an entire section about Alma's family cut. I seem to remember when it was filming there was a youtube video of him filming two people on a  boat gangplank and I feel like one of the characters was Alma. Maybe I'm wrong.


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Reply #398 on: June 21, 2020, 12:38:17 PM
There was the boyfriend of Alma on the beach. And her sister who's actually on a scene after the wedding.
Ascension.


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Reply #399 on: June 23, 2020, 10:36:54 AM
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The “pig fuck” line was so memorable that Anderson kept it in when the scene in question had to be reshot at a later date in a different location with a different actor opposite Hoffman.

I wonder what the scene was like the first time, who the other actor was, and why they re-shot it. At this point it’s hard to picture someone other than Christopher Evan Welch in that scene.

I would die for access to the PTA vault. I want to see all the early Dano-less CMBB stuff, the deleted magnolia stuff, and really just raw footage and audio between takes of him directing, watching him work with the actors and seeing them try out different shit. And I’m sure there are plenty of deleted / reshot scenes that we don’t even know about.

Or the deleted scenes/subplot in Phantom Thread with Reynolds' children.

Was it shot amd taken out by Tichenor or was it just in the script and unused. I remember somebody in the production mentioning it in an interview but I can't remember who.
Glad it was cut anyway, it would have made Reynolds irredeemably unlikeable in my mind, had it been in the final movie.

If I remember correctly (I can’t find the interview so I may be wrong), Tichenor said that the scene by the fire( the first staring contest if you will) was much much longer and they discuss Reynolds’ kids and all of his baby mamas(my guess this is what leads up to her asking why he’s not married). I’m not sure if there was ever any scenes with the children or not.


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Reply #400 on: June 26, 2020, 12:12:44 PM


I just saw this clip for the first time and I hope that PTA also saw it and took from it in some small way for Dodd's arrest scene! It's outstanding!


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Reply #401 on: June 30, 2020, 09:53:54 PM
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The “pig fuck” line was so memorable that Anderson kept it in when the scene in question had to be reshot at a later date in a different location with a different actor opposite Hoffman.

I wonder what the scene was like the first time, who the other actor was, and why they re-shot it. At this point it’s hard to picture someone other than Christopher Evan Welch in that scene.

I would die for access to the PTA vault. I want to see all the early Dano-less CMBB stuff, the deleted magnolia stuff, and really just raw footage and audio between takes of him directing, watching him work with the actors and seeing them try out different shit. And I’m sure there are plenty of deleted / reshot scenes that we don’t even know about.

Or the deleted scenes/subplot in Phantom Thread with Reynolds' children.

Was it shot amd taken out by Tichenor or was it just in the script and unused. I remember somebody in the production mentioning it in an interview but I can't remember who.
Glad it was cut anyway, it would have made Reynolds irredeemably unlikeable in my mind, had it been in the final movie.

If I remember correctly (I can’t find the interview so I may be wrong), Tichenor said that the scene by the fire( the first staring contest if you will) was much much longer and they discuss Reynolds’ kids and all of his baby mamas(my guess this is what leads up to her asking why he’s not married). I’m not sure if there was ever any scenes with the children or not.
Interesting. I wonder if this scene came about when Paul was doing his signature “get two people talking” exercise to help find out who they are... Seems natural that these parts in his film ultimately get trimmed


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Reply #402 on: July 05, 2020, 12:25:24 PM
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The “pig fuck” line was so memorable that Anderson kept it in when the scene in question had to be reshot at a later date in a different location with a different actor opposite Hoffman.

I wonder what the scene was like the first time, who the other actor was, and why they re-shot it. At this point it’s hard to picture someone other than Christopher Evan Welch in that scene.

I would die for access to the PTA vault. I want to see all the early Dano-less CMBB stuff, the deleted magnolia stuff, and really just raw footage and audio between takes of him directing, watching him work with the actors and seeing them try out different shit. And I’m sure there are plenty of deleted / reshot scenes that we don’t even know about.

Or the deleted scenes/subplot in Phantom Thread with Reynolds' children.

Was it shot amd taken out by Tichenor or was it just in the script and unused. I remember somebody in the production mentioning it in an interview but I can't remember who.
Glad it was cut anyway, it would have made Reynolds irredeemably unlikeable in my mind, had it been in the final movie.

If I remember correctly (I can’t find the interview so I may be wrong), Tichenor said that the scene by the fire( the first staring contest if you will) was much much longer and they discuss Reynolds’ kids and all of his baby mamas(my guess this is what leads up to her asking why he’s not married). I’m not sure if there was ever any scenes with the children or not.
Interesting. I wonder if this scene came about when Paul was doing his signature “get two people talking” exercise to help find out who they are... Seems natural that these parts in his film ultimately get trimmed

That’s a good observation. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case and that was one of the first scenes he wrote. Long exposition can be a drag and clunky writing, but normally when it makes sense for one of the characters to be asking the other character for the information( think of the processing scene in The Master or Kay asking about all of Michael’s family members at the wedding in the The Godfather), it can be a quite  effective and easy way to reveal a character. I’m not sure this scene would have been enhanced  to hear the whole conversation like those scenes mentioned, but I would love to see the full conversation regardless.