Wonderland

Started by MacGuffin, January 26, 2003, 05:15:31 PM

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Weak2ndAct

Oh yeah, I forgot to add:
Nowhere on the dvd box is there mention of a 2nd disc, but there is one.  It has a John Holmes documentary on there, but I could not watch it b/c my PS2 has decided to have a meltdown and make grinding noises.

godardian

God freakin' dammit, every time someone posts to this thread and it comes up, I think it's going to be:




...I can't imagine an apparently third-rate Boogie Nights ripoff starring Val Kilmer is more interesting than a great, charming little kitchen-sinker from Michael Winterbottom??
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

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michael winterbotom directed welcome to sarajevo?!?
context, context, context.

godardian

Quote from: chuckhimselfomichael winterbotom directed welcome to sarajevo?!?

...which unfortunately I haven't seen. But I am a fan of his, more because of Wonderland than 24 Hour Party People. In This World was really good...
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

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Weak2ndAct

Update:

The 2nd disc of Wonderland (not advertised on the box or anywhere) contains "Wadd: The Life and Times of John C. Holmes," the feature length doc w/ interviews from Sharon Holmes, PTA, porn people, and a slew of others.

Recce

QuoteThe 2nd disc of Wonderland (not advertised on the box or anywhere) contains "Wadd: The Life and Times of John C. Holmes," the feature length doc w/ interviews from Sharon Holmes, PTA, porn people, and a slew of others.

Jeez, that alone makes it worth buying... I'm not being sarcastic...Really, I'm not...
"The idea had been growing in my brain for some time: TRUE force. All the king's men
                        cannot put it back together again." (Travis Bickle, "Taxi Driver")

ono

Quote from: Recce
QuoteThe 2nd disc of Wonderland (not advertised on the box or anywhere) contains "Wadd: The Life and Times of John C. Holmes," the feature length doc w/ interviews from Sharon Holmes, PTA, porn people, and a slew of others.

Jeez, that alone makes it worth buying... I'm not being sarcastic...Really, I'm not...
For some, yeah, three letters would make a product worth buying.

Recce

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Quote from: Recce
QuoteThe 2nd disc of Wonderland (not advertised on the box or anywhere) contains "Wadd: The Life and Times of John C. Holmes," the feature length doc w/ interviews from Sharon Holmes, PTA, porn people, and a slew of others.

Jeez, that alone makes it worth buying... I'm not being sarcastic...Really, I'm not...
For some, yeah, three letters would make a product worth buying.
It was more about the documentary itself. I've really been into documentaries lately.
"The idea had been growing in my brain for some time: TRUE force. All the king's men
                        cannot put it back together again." (Travis Bickle, "Taxi Driver")

Pubrick

Quote from: OnomatopoeiaFor some, yeah, three letters would make a product worth buying.
my three are N-I-P.
under the paving stones.

Recce

You guys wanna hear something weird? I don't even know what PTA looks like, nor have I ever heard him speak.
"The idea had been growing in my brain for some time: TRUE force. All the king's men
                        cannot put it back together again." (Travis Bickle, "Taxi Driver")

ono

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Quote from: OnomatopoeiaFor some, yeah, three letters would make a product worth buying.
my three are N-I-P.
Okay, I'm stumped.  I've gotta ask.  N-I-P?

Pubrick

:shock:

may God hav mercy on us all.
under the paving stones.

Sleuth

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Quote from: P
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaFor some, yeah, three letters would make a product worth buying.
my three are N-I-P.
Okay, I'm stumped.  I've gotta ask.  N-I-P?

N-I-P?  Stumptastic
I like to hug dogs

MacGuffin

Quote from: Weak2ndActThe 2nd disc of Wonderland (not advertised on the box or anywhere) contains "Wadd: The Life and Times of John C. Holmes," the feature length doc w/ interviews from Sharon Holmes, PTA, porn people, and a slew of others.

From DVDFile:

Now, the best extra is also the only one that wasn't produced in conjunction with the movie - the 100-minute documentary Wadd: The Life and Times of John C. Holmes, produced and directed by Cass Paley. This is only available on this set's second disc, which apparently is going to be a limited edition, although Lion's Gate has yet to reveal just how long this will remain on the shelves and in what quantities. In any case, while cheaply made, Wadd is almost worth the price of admission alone. It is certainly far more insightful and fascinating than Wonderland, which tells us little about Holmes. So just skip the movie and watch this - it features news interviews with some of the leading players in the 70's porn industry, including Bob Chinn, Misty Dawn, Al Goldstein, Ron Jeremy, Ilona Staller, Candida Royal and Holmes' first wife Sharon, plus filmmaker Paul Thomas Anderson and Larry Flynt, and archival footage of Holmes. It is by turns hilarious and heartbreaking, and has all the drama and pathos the movie lacks. Another case of the true story behind the film failing to translate to the big screen.
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godardian

Quote from: P:shock:

may God hav mercy on us all.

Well, it is a pretty free abbreviation/truncation. I got it right away, but I think that may say something negative about me.  :) Maybe Ono's the one with his mind outside of the gutter for just a moment, here, and we're just lewd.
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

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