T3

modage · July 01, 2003, 10:27:02 PM

this is really really sick...

A November 18th release date for the T3: Rise Of The Machines DVD is already on the cards according to DavisDVD.

Cecil · July 01, 2003, 10:32:25 PM

seeing it tomorrow

Duck Sauce · July 02, 2003, 12:45:41 AM

Quote from: cecil b. dementedseeing it tomorrow

me too

Sal · July 02, 2003, 01:44:32 AM

Very dissapointing. Not in the "this isn't T2!" sense, since no one expects that, but in the "What has Mostow done?!" frame of mind. T3 parodies the first two films, essentially. Thus, it marginalizes the drama and leaves the story and characters out to dry. I didn't care for anything that happened. It was directed small, which I hoped for, but its content was epic and big, threaded from T2. And I love Mostow. I thought Breakdown and U-571 were both fantastic accomplishments and really demonstrated his abilities to hold his audience with suspense and tension. I kind of expected his strengths to come into play here, as well. Instead it was, "what if we put a toutou on Arnie?" Not that it happens, but it comes...close. It was like everybody decided that because they couldn't top the second, they'd go in the opposite direction and take a shit on the franchise.

But I'm also in the minority on this one. Reviews I've read have all been positive, which really had me hoping.

Ghostboy · July 02, 2003, 02:03:13 AM

I don't think it's THAT bad...but it's not that great. 'Breakdown' and 'U-571' were both good action films, but they were essentially very good B-movies. This continues in that trend The action was good, but not very engaging. Thjis is because the story -- well, there isn't one, really. It's a single situation that manages to stretch out for two hours. Cameron took a B-movie idea and, with T2, turned it into something really memorable and great. This one is sort of just attache. When this one works, it's purely for nostalgic purposes. I did like some the advanced CG damage done to Arnold's skull, though. And the last five minutes were the only ones that actually felt like a Terminator movie, and they were great.

oakmanc234 · July 02, 2003, 02:30:18 AM

I'm so suprised that 'T3' is getting positive reviews. Absolute shocker. I predicted bad reviews from the minute the trailer ended. I'm looking forward to it but its obvious that it won't threaten 'T2' in any way (box-office and film wise).

Sal · July 02, 2003, 03:41:28 AM

Quote from: GhostboyI don't think it's THAT bad...but it's not that great. 'Breakdown' and 'U-571' were both good action films, but they were essentially very good B-movies. This continues in that trend The action was good, but not very engaging.

I don't exactly see how Breakdown and U-571 were "b" movies, in terms of definition. I think B movies take their name from execution rather than content. So to say something is a really good b movie is sort of breaking its definition.

Ghostboy · July 02, 2003, 09:12:17 AM

Well, TECHNICALLY, it's not an indication of quality but simply of the second movie in a double feature -- which back in those days generally wasn't as good as the A movie. Over the years, I think, the term has changed to describe bad movies and straight to video fare, but also straight genre films that don't try to exceed their own boundaries. I was referring to the latter.

Cecil · July 02, 2003, 05:22:59 PM

i agree with sal.

and there are too many different interpretations of "b-movie." ive stopped using the term

Satcho9 · July 03, 2003, 12:08:55 AM

Just came back from T3....why the fuck cant they just leave some franchises alone?

Ghostboy · July 03, 2003, 01:05:37 AM

Agreed. It just made me want to watch the originals. Speaking of which, is that new T2 edition worth getting, despite the absolutely horrendous packaging?

Cecil · July 03, 2003, 01:10:16 AM

Quote from: GhostboySpeaking of which, is that new T2 edition worth getting, despite the absolutely horrendous packaging?

acording to dvd angle, yes. im wondering if i should pick it up myself, or get one of the un-extended versions.

MacGuffin · July 03, 2003, 01:15:00 AM

Quote from: cecil b. demented
Quote from: GhostboySpeaking of which, is that new T2 edition worth getting, despite the absolutely horrendous packaging?

acording to dvd angle, yes. im wondering if i should pick it up myself, or get one of the un-extended versions.

The James Cameron/William Wisher commentary is very good and worth having for that alone. Also, cecil, both the theatrical (as an easter egg) and extended versions of the movie are included on this Extreme DVD.

Cecil · July 03, 2003, 01:18:03 AM

thanks alot, now ill have to buy this tomorrow. sigh. ill never save up for my tv. OKAY, no more dvds after t2 extreme edition and this time its true

life_boy · July 03, 2003, 05:34:33 PM

I have to agree with what's already been said about the film. I saw it last night and despite some nice action moments it just lacked Cameron's touches of science and humanity. It had hints of both but I felt it lacked the emotional core of the first two films and was more interested in stringing together a bunch of action sequences. I also felt it tried referrencing the second film too much for laughs. I wish they had done more with the villian in the movie as well. I felt Kristanna Loken's T-X lacked the menacing pressence or the silently lethal presence of Robert Patrick's T-1000. His dead stares and head tilts were creepy and here they just felt (I hate to say it) almost parodied.

All this isn't to say the movie didn't provide some good moments, it does. I just felt the movie could've had so much more to offer us and that it came up short. I would've really liked to see what Cameron could have done with this. Obviously, he felt there was no need for another and I don't really blame him. But now that this is out it looks like there could be future Terminators.

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