Intense Pain Caused By Females (or the longing for)

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SoNowThen

June 25, 2003, 11:47:55 AM
Something I thought of while PMing today...

please post some movie titles that deal with this. But no happy endings please. Nothing where the guy gets the object of his affection. Are there any really good ones where it's just prevailing sadness on the part of the guy? None are coming to my mind right now...

I guess, maybe, All The Real Girls might fit, but he at least got the girl for a little while, and she actually loved him, so ...hmmm... it doesn't quite count.

Can anyone think of any??
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

MacGuffin

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June 25, 2003, 11:50:28 AM
"Don't think about making art, just get it done. Let everyone else decide if it's good or bad, whether they love it or hate it. While they are deciding, make even more art." - Andy Warhol


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SoNowThen

#2
June 25, 2003, 11:54:01 AM
Hmm, then I will have to watch.

But anything more 20-somethingish... and closer to a non-plotted film?
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

Ernie

#3
June 25, 2003, 11:54:18 AM
Edward Scissorhands
George Washington (w/ Buddy and Nasia)
Jungle Fever
Almost Famous
The Virgin Suicides
Requiem for a Dream
Y Tu Mama Tambien
Adaptation

I'll second All the Real Girls too...probably the best example I can think of.

chainsmoking insomniac

#4
June 25, 2003, 11:55:08 AM
I want to say Leaving Las Vegas.  Definitely not a happy ending... :)
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: 'The world's a fine place, and worth fighting for.'  I agree with the second part."
    --Morgan Freeman, Se7en

"Have you ever fucking seen that...? Ever seen a mistake in nature?  Have you ever seen an animal make a mistake?"
 --Paul Schneider, All the Real Girls

ono

#5
June 25, 2003, 11:55:38 AM
There's Something About Mary  :-P

Leaving Las Vegas isn't about the woman, though.  She's just along for his last ride.

SoNowThen

#6
June 25, 2003, 11:57:30 AM
actually, yeah, I just re-watched it a couple days ago, can't believe I didn't think of that one...

Leaving Las Vegas is almost perfect, except that Sara loved Ben. We need one where the chick doesn't give two shits about the guy...
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

chainsmoking insomniac

#7
June 25, 2003, 11:58:26 AM
I have to disagree.  There was a love there (however fragile); boiled down they really cared for each other.
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: 'The world's a fine place, and worth fighting for.'  I agree with the second part."
    --Morgan Freeman, Se7en

"Have you ever fucking seen that...? Ever seen a mistake in nature?  Have you ever seen an animal make a mistake?"
 --Paul Schneider, All the Real Girls

Pubrick

#8
June 25, 2003, 12:48:34 PM
so i guess this whole thread will be spoilerful. i don't think i'll be checking this one for replies.

for my part, i'll say Age of Innocence. and that's that.
under the paving stones.

Cecil

#9
June 25, 2003, 12:49:10 PM
lost highway
boxing helena (i guess)
taxi driver (i guess)
in the company of men
the shape of things
RoA
u-turn

chainsmoking insomniac

#10
June 25, 2003, 01:39:00 PM
Hey, what about Luke Wilson and Gwenyth Paltrow in Tennenbaums?
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: 'The world's a fine place, and worth fighting for.'  I agree with the second part."
    --Morgan Freeman, Se7en

"Have you ever fucking seen that...? Ever seen a mistake in nature?  Have you ever seen an animal make a mistake?"
 --Paul Schneider, All the Real Girls

Redlum

#11
June 25, 2003, 01:48:06 PM
Chasing Amy
Two Girls and a Guy
\"I wanted to make a film for kids, something that would present them with a kind of elementary morality. Because nowadays nobody bothers to tell those kids, \'Hey, this is right and this is wrong\'.\"
  -  George Lucas

chainsmoking insomniac

#12
June 25, 2003, 01:50:03 PM
Quote from: redlumChasing Amy
Two Girls and a Guy

That doesn't quite count, because the guys in those two films actually did 'score' with the women, even if later on in those films they ended up pining for them....
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: 'The world's a fine place, and worth fighting for.'  I agree with the second part."
    --Morgan Freeman, Se7en

"Have you ever fucking seen that...? Ever seen a mistake in nature?  Have you ever seen an animal make a mistake?"
 --Paul Schneider, All the Real Girls

SoNowThen

#13
June 25, 2003, 02:00:59 PM
Exactly.



And yeah, Tenenbaums is a good example.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

polkablues

#14
June 25, 2003, 02:49:43 PM
I keep telling people to see this movie, and they never do, but if you want a movie that fits exactly with what you described, for the love of god see "Waking the Dead".
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