The Ladykillers

kotte · April 02, 2004, 04:10:33 PM

SPOILERS!!!

It's not hard, type as you read...S-P-O-I-L-E-R-S-!-!-!

Ravi · April 02, 2004, 04:18:34 PM

I enjoyed watching Hanks chew the scenery. Perfect delivery on lines like "we are quiet and yet NOT quiet."

mutinyco · April 03, 2004, 01:21:47 PM

I think the whole argument of "spoilers" is pretty weak. If you're going to write seriously about a film, you're going to give important details away. If it's something that bothers you, then just don't read anything until you've seen the movie. But don't complain because you were curious enough to read it. It's unnecessary to proclaim "spoliers". It should be taken for granted.

kotte · April 04, 2004, 04:48:08 AM

The give-away in your review was quite pointless...

and why not write "spoilers"? I see your argument but I don't agree. Please write "spoilers" and let all of us enjoy your posts.

cine · April 04, 2004, 03:12:45 PM

Quote from: mutinycoI think the whole argument of "spoilers" is pretty weak. If you're going to write seriously about a film, you're going to give important details away. If it's something that bothers you, then just don't read anything until you've seen the movie. But don't complain because you were curious enough to read it. It's unnecessary to proclaim "spoliers". It should be taken for granted.

You've been around for nearly a year, right? If you had any brains, you'd know that everybody here types "Spoilers" or "SPOILERS" or even "spoilers are in dis bitch," before typing things that could give away plot points. If you're going to be completely ignorant of the fact that EVERYONE ELSE is considerate of others, then here's an idea for next time: don't be an asshole. Thanks, mutinyco. I'll see you in the next thread when you ignore what I wrote here.

mutinyco · April 05, 2004, 02:06:45 PM

Uh-oh. Looks like some dumb motherfucker is trying to bait me into a fight. The fact remains: "SPOILERS" is unnecessary. This is a thread about "The Ladykillers". If you don't want to read about the film, then don't read about it. Period. My review wasn't meant for people who hadn't seen it, but for those who had, and in my opinion, didn't get it. As obviously you don't. Grow up. Writing about a film means writing about a film.

I thought "spoilers" was dumb years ago. I think it's dumb now. If you'd like to have an actual discussion about the movie be my guest. Take on the merits of what I wrote. But don't try to attack me like an ignorant prick because, as you guessed, I'm not listening.

kotte · April 05, 2004, 02:18:04 PM

You should grow up and go with the flow, for fuck sake...

mutinyco · April 05, 2004, 02:41:21 PM

Going with the flow doesn't get you anywhere. Any discussion of art should never contain the phrase "go with the flow"...

If people don't want to know about a movie, then don't read about it. It's a silly symptom of our media overload -- there's too much information and everybody wants to read it. But if you actually say anything important -- God forbid -- it's wrong. And you need to notify people that you're actually going to say something relevant.

Like this. We're talking about spoilers instead of the movie.

kotte · April 05, 2004, 02:50:15 PM

It's about giving away the ending...there are tons of ways to critique a movie without giving it away.

Critics do it all the time...

mutinyco · April 05, 2004, 03:02:25 PM

Possibly. But not in this case. It's the ending that ties all of the themes together. Again, my post was for those who'd already seen it.

kotte · April 05, 2004, 03:04:48 PM

Quote from: mutinycoAgain, my post was for those who'd already seen it.

Well, I would have known if...

Ghostboy · April 05, 2004, 03:16:58 PM

Mutinyco's right in one regard: a discussion of film doesn't need spoiler warnings.

However, this isn't Film Comment. Common courtesy suggests that, if you write a review for people who have already seen a film, simply label it as such, so that those who haven't seen it but wish to engage in the ongoing conversation that makes a messageboard a messageboard can save your comments for later.

If you don't like the word SPOILER, don't use it, but a warning of some sort should always be in order; and I'd wager that it takes less time to type that immediately recognizable admonition than a sentence saying the same thing.

mutinyco · April 06, 2004, 12:17:07 PM

Wait! I'm confused. You mean this ISN'T Film Comment?...

coffeebeetle · May 24, 2004, 08:51:14 PM

Jesus Christ, and I thought I dropped some dumb posts. This argument is a no brainer! Mutiny, for the love of God: S-P-O-I-L-E-R! You can post your reviews on your website.

Thankyaverymuch.

Alexandro · June 05, 2004, 12:00:08 PM

I have a few things to say:

Intolerable Cruelty was not very funny. It was over the top. The only one there with a true comic timing is Clooney, but he's all alone. I remember from the very beggining, when Geoffrey Rush says: "It's funny that we have someone to clean the pool since, WE DON'T HAVE A POOL", I thought, simply: "lame"...

The Ladykillers is not like Intolerable Cruelty, it's not that much about being mainstream and it is funnier. People were laughing last night, a lot more than when I saw IC back in october or something like that. Like mutinyco says, this movie doesn't give a fuck, and the final joke about the University is Coen Brothers at their best. This reminded me of The Big Lebowski. The dialogues are brilliant all the way through, specially Hank's...and everyone seems to be having a lot of fun.

This is not mainstream at all. It's too weird. Mainstream comedy is Scary Movie, or something along those lines. From the get go, the soundtrack is not some punck rock/top 40 collection of songs, and most of the jokes, even the ones about farts and digestive problems are funny because of the way the characters react to them (never breaking the character), not because of the jokes in themselves.

Time will treat better this one, I guess. Just like with The Big Lebowski.

About the spoilers thing...well, just for politeness we should warn about them, but frankly, I don't see the point of reading reviews or comments about a movie that you haven't seen. When I come here, is always to read what the others think of the movie, but never before I see it. I come here to read the other's opinions cause I respect them and find them interesting. After all, we all love movies. I like to read comments that adress everything, even the endings, of course. Roger Ebert always reveals a lot of plot details and sometimes even ending details in his reviews, cause that's actually the only proper way to write about a movie.

Also, it's kind of tiresome that I watch a movie, come home, get into xixax to read comments, and it's always seven pages of bullshit posts like "This looks interesting", "Oh, I wanna see that", or even things like "mmmmmh" before any real opinion is posted...Not that I'm suggesting anyone to change their sacred xixax habits, but it's kind of boring sometimes...

alexandro