Milk

RegularKarate · January 28, 2009, 01:38:47 PM

agreed

private witt · January 28, 2009, 02:03:21 PM

Quote from: picolas on January 28, 2009, 01:42:32 AM
the trailer doesn't show his assassination, true. but knowing brolin would be the assassin, his motivations in the trailer are pretty narrow. granted it's a trailer, but it still does its best to show him as a straight up bigot. i think it contributes to that idea.

I guess some film makers don't want to give away the entire movie in two minutes.

picolas · January 28, 2009, 02:13:29 PM

but there's a difference when you're making a historical film and the ending is common knowledge/part of even the skimpiest plot summaries.

private witt · January 28, 2009, 02:17:04 PM

I don't think the story of Harvey Milk's political career and assassination were common knowledge to most Americans. It's still 'based on a true story', they're still trying to create suspense by leaving the possible chain of events open to the audience, even if we can get our historical spoiler alerts from wikipedia if we really want to.

picolas · January 28, 2009, 02:30:58 PM

i didn't go to wikipedia. i knew what was what from barely skimming articles or reading headlines. it's out there. it's hard to escape. so i'll call it common knowledge for most people with an interest in seeing the film. my point was that you could interpret the trailer as implying white killed milk out of bigotry, which was actually how i understood it before seeing the film, and seems to be the way white's motivations are framed by a lot of misinformed people. it's an understandable trailer tactic to make things neater than they are. actually it's a necessity. but (especially seeing how van sant would disagree with this particular simplification) it was an odd one to put in this trailer for this movie.

private witt · January 28, 2009, 02:34:55 PM

Most directors don't have much say in how their trailers get cut.

picolas · January 28, 2009, 02:36:20 PM

i'm not blaming van sant.

Stefen · January 28, 2009, 02:48:35 PM

I like private witt. We need more new blood posters who aren't afraid to voice their opinions.

private witt · January 28, 2009, 06:51:33 PM

Quote from: picolas on January 28, 2009, 02:36:20 PM
i'm not blaming van sant.

Oh, I didn't mean to imply you were. I've seen a lot of great films with terrible trailers made by ad execs who don't think the film has enough merits of it's own to be marketable.

private witt · January 28, 2009, 06:52:25 PM

Quote from: Stefen on January 28, 2009, 02:48:35 PM
I like private witt. We need more new blood posters who aren't afraid to voice their opinions.

Just wait 'til I start drunk posting, Wheeeee!!!! I kid.

pete · January 28, 2009, 07:15:43 PM

the trailer does not imply a murder at all.

private witt · January 28, 2009, 08:49:58 PM

Yep. Merely the threat.

Stefen · January 28, 2009, 09:02:57 PM

private witt, your thoughts on Boondock Saints? Overrated? Underrated? I'm talking NOW. Not 2 years ago, before that, etc. I'm talking NOW.

SiliasRuby · January 28, 2009, 09:20:04 PM

Even though I am not private witt, I believe 'The Boondock saints' has now become decent-just okay. not overrated or underrated. just....fine. My review of Milk, coming soon.

private witt · January 28, 2009, 10:09:24 PM

Quote from: Stefen on January 28, 2009, 09:02:57 PM
private witt, your thoughts on Boondock Saints? Overrated? Underrated? I'm talking NOW. Not 2 years ago, before that, etc. I'm talking NOW.

I've only watched it once years ago. I thought they did a terrific job of ripping off 'Leon' and about a dozen other films. But if I watched it now I'd probably laugh my ass off. Y'know what, I'd probably write a drinking game for it. Take a drink every time William Defoe rips off a mannerism from Garry Oldman's Norman Stansfield. Honestly, I try not to hate things as much as I did when I was younger in order to get along with people better. But as the marque says, if you like Boondock Saints you might get punched in the face, so maybe I'm not alone in my critique.