Liam Neeson to replace Mel in 'Hangover 2'
Warner Bros. finds replacement for Todd Phillips comedy
Source: Variety
Liam Neeson has stepped in to replace Mel Gibson in Warner Bros.' "The Hangover Part II," following a revolt by the cast and crew against Gibson's involvement in the movie.
Neeson says he was invited to take the cameo role via his "A-Team" co-star Bradley Cooper, who stars in "The Hangover Part II" along with Zack Galifianakis.
"I just got a call to do a one day shoot on 'Hangover 2' as a tattooist in Thailand, and that's all I know about it," Neeson told Daily Variety. "I just laughed my leg off when I saw 'The Hangover, I was shooting in Berlin earlier this year and rented it on the hotel TV."
Neeson flew out to the set Thursday from his home in New York.
In a statement released Thursday, director Todd Phillips said, "I thought Mel would have been great in the movie and I had the full backing of Jeff Robinov and his team. But I realize filmmaking is a collaborative effort, and this decision ultimately did not have the full support of my entire cast and crew."
The studio has scheduled "The Hangover 2" for release on May 26.
"The Unknown" (previously titled "Unknown White Male"), the Dark Castle thriller that Neeson shot in Berlin earlier this year, is set for release by Warners in January.
Neeson most recently played another cameo as the Admiral in Universal/Hasbro's "Battleship." He will start filming Joe Carnahan's "The Gray" in January, followed by further shooting on "Battleship" and "Clash of the Titans 2." Then he's lined up for Ji-woon Kim's "The Last Stand," and after that he hopes to play the lead in Brad Silberling's "An Ordinary Man," a low-budget drama about a fugitive war criminal in the former Yugoslavia.
haha. fuck yeah. Mel Gibson got pwnt.
Mel Gibson got hungover.
a raper is ok. a guy who said bad words isn't.
Quote from: Derek on October 23, 2010, 05:16:49 PM
a raper is ok. a guy who said bad words isn't.
sorry but if you really think thats all he did, you need to find out before making stupid remarks.
If I had to pick a best friend for life between the two, I would choose Mike Tyson because he was really just a misguided youth who had to grow up too fast and has not rehabilitated his image. Mel Gibson is just a mean, mean person.
this just goes to show how people have their heads up their asses in the 21th century.
oh mel gibson is a RACIST, didn't you know? he said he N word!!! and he's sexist, he ACTUALLY said "sugar-tits" to a police woman. and he explodes in anger like a maniac on the phone, and you know, he's FUCKED UP. so he can't be in our hangover movie where we cast poor mike tyson, just a misguided black kid, a victim of the system. give me a fucking break. is called being a human being. oh, alec baldwin left an angry voicemail to his daughter, BAD. Russell Crowe got pissed at some douchebag bellboy and throwed him a phone, BAD. Jesus. Everyone jumps at every celebrity that fucks up as if no one ever fucked up before.
the people behind the hangover can get off their high horse immediately. they went and put mike tyson on their film as a fucking sideshow freak for people to laugh at, nothing more. specially zach galifankis, who has turned into a major whore of the highest level. He's all over the place now, doing every crap movie he can find to make some money before his moment passes. And they replace Gibson with Liam Neeson, in yet another paycheck whore role, for their completely superfluous SEQUEL because nothing most of those guys have done since can ever top the original Hangover. That's it. There is no morality here at all. There is no search for the greater good. Just a bunch of filmmakers and actors cashing in they two year old project and rejecting someone because they feel "offended" by his behavior which, no matter what anyone says, is not equal to raping someone.
Quote from: Alexandro on October 23, 2010, 08:55:28 PM
zach galifankis, who has turned into a major whore of the highest level. He's all over the place now, doing every crap movie he can find to make some money before his moment passes.
To be fair, Galifianakis didn't show much consideration for his filmography before The Hangover, either. He seemed to act in films not based on artistic or intellectual merits, but whether or not it was a paying gig. With the exception of a few projects (Visioneers, Into The Wild) he has mostly appeared in disposable junk like Corky Romano, and Bubble Boy. That hasn't changed post-Hangover, except his viability has increased and the checks have gotten larger.
What he does seem to show some consideration for, and hasn't really compromised, is his career as a stand-up comedian. He didn't indulge in any college tours after The Hangover. At worst, he recycled decade old material for his Saturday Night Live monologue - but that's a pretty minor criticism.
He's actually made a pretty admirable distinction between "Zach Galifiankis: Comedian" and "Zach Galifinakis: Actor-for-hire."
I do agree with you on your larger point, however.. To be point that I can't even feign indignation over who gets cast and who gets fired, what is/isn't offensive, etc. It's a superfluous film made for an easy return of investment. I could give wto fucks who they do (or do not) cast.
Quote from: kal on October 23, 2010, 07:00:04 PM
Quote from: Derek on October 23, 2010, 05:16:49 PM
a raper is ok. a guy who said bad words isn't.
sorry but if you really think thats all he did, you need to find out before making stupid remarks.
Researched. I'm back. Said dumber things than that and stand by it. And what about Tyson? Which is kind of my point. And picking a best freind for life?? Give me a break. Tyson got caught and found a higher power and got a facial tattoo.He must have a hell of a PR team for the goodwill he gets. and nothing against Tyson, because he was funny-ish. but sugartits is funnier. people pretend to know these celebrities and judge them while the are at it. gibson, like tyson, just got caught.
I think Galifianakis IS showing concern for his career now actually.
Dinner For Schmucks
Bored To Death
Due Date
Hangover 2
Which of these is a "major whore" role?
The difference in Tyson and Gibson is that Tyson has actually gone to jail and "paid his debt to society". Mel Gibson is basically on a Hollywood blacklist right now because of his behavior and getting a role/cameo like this would allow everyone to let him off the hook and laugh with him. I think they just didn't want to be the guys to do that.
Jodie Foster, an actual smart person, already did that with The Beaver, people who've seen it have been giving high praise to Gibson's performance. The dude is a major talent and has committed no crime. He is an asshole, he has a lot of hate and frustration, he is insane, but that fuels his work and makes it special too. He got caught and now every self righteous idiot around feels compelled to attack him. Self righteousness makes me sick.
But The Beaver is not going to be seeing a release anytime soon and when it does it will probably not be seen by many. The Hangover 2 will be a huge hit (at least for a few weeks) and allowing him to re-enter the public in that platform is not something the cast/crew was comfortable with.
I buy the Mike Tyson paying his debt to society idea and time just healing that issue. He went to prison and since there were no complaints when he was originally hired for the Hangover, it seems everyone is beyond that issue. I also understand Mel Gibson being toxic. No, the guy did nothing illegal which can be proven in a court of law right now, but no filmmaker is their right mind is going to believe he's ready for public fitting either. I don't believe rape and harassment are comparable, but I also believe you have to admit what he did isn't going to make him public friendly for a while. Even if it's just the actors complaining about him now, I'm sure lots of other protests would have come out over his involvement and since this movie wants to make a ton of money, why risk the good fortune this series has by putting him in the movie?
I don't see how there's a controversy here. It's not as though Mel Gibson has a constitutional right to be in movies. They hired him, his would-be coworkers expressed concern, and they decided the downside was greater than the upside, so they let him go. It has nothing to do with self-righteousness, it has nothing to do with comparing Gibson's transgressions to Mike Tyson's. It was a simple business decision. The movie's going to be retarded anyway, so who really cares in the long run?
If it's not about self righteousness on the part of the hangover crew (which it is), is about it on the part of the mass media in USA and theoritcaly on the american public. I say "in theory" because until gibson shows up in another movie, nobody KNOWS for sure what the response will be. My hunch is that the media will make a lot of fuss about it as they usually do and the normal people wont give a shit and show up to a mel Gibson movie because he is still one of the biggest stars in the world, a dying breed, actually.
In fact, if this poll (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/30/60minutes/main6819188.shtmlutm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CBSNewsGamecore+%28GameCore%3A+CBSnews.com%29) is any indication, no one really cares about it in terms of not going to see Gibson to the movies anymore. So is not really a business decision at all.
And one of the reasons The Beaver is not getting a wide release soon is precisely this form of pre-censorship. Last time Mel gibson showed up at the theatres in that insufferable edge of darkness crap, people filled the seats and ate it all up.
and yes, the hangover 2 will be retarded, it's probably better for his career. this is a bizarre world.
Quote from: Alexandro on October 24, 2010, 04:28:17 PM
Last time Mel gibson showed up at the theatres in that insufferable edge of darkness crap, people filled the seats and ate it all up.
"Filled the seats and ate it all up?" (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=edgeofdarkness.htm)
I guess I'm not the only one who listened to those phone calls and thought "this guys due for a comedy"
Quote from: Alexandro on October 24, 2010, 04:28:17 PM
If it's not about self righteousness on the part of the hangover crew (which it is), is about it on the part of the mass media in USA and theoritcaly on the american public. I say "in theory" because until gibson shows up in another movie, nobody KNOWS for sure what the response will be. My hunch is that the media will make a lot of fuss about it as they usually do and the normal people wont give a shit and show up to a mel Gibson movie because he is still one of the biggest stars in the world, a dying breed, actually.
In fact, if this poll (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/30/60minutes/main6819188.shtmlutm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+CBSNewsGamecore+%28GameCore%3A+CBSnews.com%29) is any indication, no one really cares about it in terms of not going to see Gibson to the movies anymore. So is not really a business decision at all.
And one of the reasons The Beaver is not getting a wide release soon is precisely this form of pre-censorship. Last time Mel gibson showed up at the theatres in that insufferable edge of darkness crap, people filled the seats and ate it all up.
and yes, the hangover 2 will be retarded, it's probably better for his career. this is a bizarre world.
I'm not arguing that it was a business decision in the sense of whether audiences would go to see Gibson or not. I have no real doubt that they would. But when you have a film franchise that a studio is banking on to make them big money for the foreseeable future, it's in their best interest to keep the critical elements of that franchise, in this case the cast, happy. Whether or not any of us agrees that Mel Gibson's behavior warrants blacklisting of any sort, the returning cast is more important to the success of the film than a Mel Gibson cameo would be.
As for the issue of censorship, this is not censorship. Were the state of California to pass a law saying that Mel Gibson is a jerk and so should be outlawed from being in Hollywood productions, that would be censorship. A studio deciding to hold off release of a movie or to decide against putting him in one is not censorship, it's business. Even if audiences are clamoring for more Mel after all, no one is required to put him in movies who doesn't want to.
Quote from: Alexandro on October 24, 2010, 11:32:35 AM
has committed no crime.
Nah man I like Gibson the actor. Even that Edge of Darkness crap was pretty good I thought.
But he committed a bunch of crimes. At the very, very, least he's a drunk driving anti-semite. :ponder:
And polls don't matter either. Even if most people say they don't care when they answer polls (how reliable are they anyways?), all it takes is a bunch of groups to protest the movie for it to get a bad rep in coverage and create an unnecessary dent in the film's box office. I don't understand how someone can go to town with defending this guy. At best, he needs to take more time off and just go away for a while. Considerng most experts were predicting his career was over when the fallout happened, he should be happy to think all he needs is a five-to-ten year hiatus.
I'm not defending Mel Gibson or any of his supposed bad deeds.
But I am saying that the cast of the hangover, who are the ones who started complaining, are self righteous idiots.
Yes, in the end is a business thing, but it is a decision taken as a consequence of those guys suddenly becoming conscious or whatever of not putting a "drunk driving anti semite" in their comedy about drunk driving maniacs in vegas. that is what pisses me off and no argument will convince me otherwise on that.
and it is censorship. self-censorship, which is the worst kind there is.
Hollywood would end if every star had to be a sane, morally upright citizen.
if tyson had raped a JEWISH woman, then it would be a different story.
mel pissed off the wrong ppl.
history has shown that hollywood would much sooner embrace a rapist (http://www.goincentives.com/Pianist%20JPG%20MAX.jpg) than an anti-semite.
Fuck, don't even get me started on Polanski.
Quote from: Alexandro on October 24, 2010, 11:53:23 PM
But I am saying that the cast of the hangover, who are the ones who started complaining, are self righteous idiots.
Yes, in the end is a business thing, but it is a decision taken as a consequence of those guys suddenly becoming conscious or whatever of not putting a "drunk driving anti semite" in their comedy about drunk driving maniacs in vegas.
Yea, what Mel Gibson said to the cop and his girlfriend is equivalent or even comparable to the jokes in the Hangover...not even close. The actors are fine for feeling like they have to stand up to his being hired. Hollywood itself may be a little hypocritical for how they accept other alleged felons, but I don't see the hypocrisy here and that's with them hiring Mike Tyson, too.
tyson served his time and fell hard. mel has barely begun his fall yet. give him time; he'll get there.
Mel Gibson 'Furious' About Being Booted From 'The Hangover 2' Todd Phillips Says Decision Boosted Morale On Set
Source: The Playlist
With all the fuss in the last week over the hiring of Mel Gibson for a key cameo as a tattoo artist in the Bangkok-set sequel to the surprise comedy hit "The Hangover," and his subsequent swift booting from the role, following protests by the cast and crew, in favor of the more stable, less repellent Liam Neeson, one thing's been forgotten: were the poor little racist's feelings hurt by the controversy? The answer, unsurprisingly, is yes. Page Six report that Gibson is "furious" at the producers of the film for kicking him out, a source close to Gibson telling the gossip column "He doesn't understand why Mike Tyson, a drug user who turned his life around, was given a chance while Mel was kicked to the curb. Everybody deserves a second chance." Or in Gibson's case, a fifth chance. In fairness to the actor, many others have raised the comparison with Tyson, and there is a degree of hypocrisy at work, considering the lack of outcry over the presence of convicted rapist Tyson in the first film. We'll give you that one, Mel. Now please, stop calling. Alan Nierob, who's the publicist for both Gibson and Neeson, also released a statement with a jibe at the unruly objectors on "The Hangover 2," saying that Neeson had been hired "pending clearance of cast and crew background check." So if any dirt turns up on Neeson in the next few weeks, we'll know that Justin Bartha's private investigator is pretty thorough. On the plus side, Todd Phillips, speaking on the issue during promotional duties for the imminent "Due Date" with Cinematical, says that the mood on set hasn't been altered too much by the controversy. While he complains of the new-found attention paid to the sequel, considering how under-the-radar the first film was, he says "No, it doesn't affect morale on the set in any way; in fact, it's quite the opposite, because it's about morale that certain decisions get made. It's about saying, hey, we're a team on this -we're all together on this." "The Hangover 2" hits theaters almost exactly seven months from now, on May 27th, 2011. And for the record, a list of the things that Mel Gibson is furious about currently runs to: being fired from "The Hangover 2," the mother of his child, his ex-wife, the tabloid press, Barack Obama, the lack of awards recognition for "Apocalypto," the Dallas Cowboys' performance against the New York Giants last night, the delay of the release of Jodie Foster's "The Beaver," a lack of oral sex, the poor quality of oral sex he does receive, Martin Campbell's refusal to let him perform all the dialogue in "Edge of Darkness" in Sanskrit, NBC's "Outsourced" (because of the quantity of Asians in the cast, rather than because it's not funny), the sun rising, the sun setting, having his eggs overcooked, the choice of Zack Snyder to direct "Superman," the lack of choruses on the second MGMT album, the building work his neighbors are having done, the shitty reception on his iPhone, Joe Pesci, having to wait another six months for "Tree of Life," the Rocky Horror-themed episode of "Glee," trick-or-treaters, the snooty cashier in Whole Foods, the way Carey Mulligan crossed the street to avoid him when all he wanted to say was how much he liked "An Education," the Iranian influence in Afghanistan, Amazon still not having delivered his copy of the complete lyrics of Stephen Sondheim, Danny Glover no longer returning his phone calls, brown paper packages tied up with string, and the Jews.
what helps your image more, being in Hangover II or being fired from it?
^lol.
i'll tell you what would help the PLAYLIST's image more, getting rid of shit like this:
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 26, 2010, 02:16:06 PM
And for the record, a list of the things that Mel Gibson is furious about currently runs to: being fired from "The Hangover 2," the mother of his child, his ex-wife, the tabloid press, Barack Obama, the lack of awards recognition for "Apocalypto," the Dallas Cowboys' performance against the New York Giants last night, the delay of the release of Jodie Foster's "The Beaver," a lack of oral sex, the poor quality of oral sex he does receive, Martin Campbell's refusal to let him perform all the dialogue in "Edge of Darkness" in Sanskrit, NBC's "Outsourced" (because of the quantity of Asians in the cast, rather than because it's not funny), the sun rising, the sun setting, having his eggs overcooked, the choice of Zack Snyder to direct "Superman," the lack of choruses on the second MGMT album, the building work his neighbors are having done, the shitty reception on his iPhone, Joe Pesci, having to wait another six months for "Tree of Life," the Rocky Horror-themed episode of "Glee," trick-or-treaters, the snooty cashier in Whole Foods, the way Carey Mulligan crossed the street to avoid him when all he wanted to say was how much he liked "An Education," the Iranian influence in Afghanistan, Amazon still not having delivered his copy of the complete lyrics of Stephen Sondheim, Danny Glover no longer returning his phone calls, brown paper packages tied up with string, and the Jews.
Quote from: P on October 27, 2010, 07:36:20 AM
i'll tell you what would help the PLAYLIST's image more, getting rid of shit like this:
Speaking of that, I think ThePlaylist himself (Rodrigo Perez) is not really involved with the site anymore. He rarely posts stories and it says the editor in cheif is Keith Jagernauth now. The Playlist is only listed as "Comptroller (http://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2006/12/about-who-does-what-for-playlist.html)". Which bums me out because I really liked his writing and trusted his opinion.
It's not the same since it went to indiewire.
Quote from: P on October 27, 2010, 07:36:20 AM
i'll tell you what would help the PLAYLIST's image more, getting rid of shit like this:
Quote from: MacGuffin on October 26, 2010, 02:16:06 PM
And for the record, a list of the things that Mel Gibson is furious about currently runs to: being fired from "The Hangover 2," the mother of his child, his ex-wife, the tabloid press, Barack Obama, the lack of awards recognition for "Apocalypto," the Dallas Cowboys' performance against the New York Giants last night, the delay of the release of Jodie Foster's "The Beaver," a lack of oral sex, the poor quality of oral sex he does receive, Martin Campbell's refusal to let him perform all the dialogue in "Edge of Darkness" in Sanskrit, NBC's "Outsourced" (because of the quantity of Asians in the cast, rather than because it's not funny), the sun rising, the sun setting, having his eggs overcooked, the choice of Zack Snyder to direct "Superman," the lack of choruses on the second MGMT album, the building work his neighbors are having done, the shitty reception on his iPhone, Joe Pesci, having to wait another six months for "Tree of Life," the Rocky Horror-themed episode of "Glee," trick-or-treaters, the snooty cashier in Whole Foods, the way Carey Mulligan crossed the street to avoid him when all he wanted to say was how much he liked "An Education," the Iranian influence in Afghanistan, Amazon still not having delivered his copy of the complete lyrics of Stephen Sondheim, Danny Glover no longer returning his phone calls, brown paper packages tied up with string, and the Jews.
Yeah. I don't know if this is supposed to be journalism or just some dude writing on a blog, but it sucks either way.
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/thehangoverpart2/
I like it.
Justin Bartha can not catch a break.
Quote from: polkablues on February 24, 2011, 05:07:56 PM
Justin Bartha can not catch a break.
Yeah, poor guy at least show him for a second. It means he is not relevant at all once again.
I had never even heard of that guy until this thread.
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New Trailer here. (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810187722/trailer)
Paul Giamatti? cool
Everything else looks exactly like I expected. At least Bartha gets a phone call scene.
TRAILER SPOILERS/SPOILERS?
I know we should have expected the sequel to follow the same basic formula, but this is just ridiculous. This is almost exactly the same as the first movie. It's too similar. Stu has a problem with his body (tattoo, not tooth). Surprise animal in the room! (monkey, not tiger). Someone's missing (Brother in law not Doug). Why don't we look in our pockets for clues?! Oh no people are chasing us with guns! I would hope that the trailer is attempting not to spoil the highlights, but this does not make me want to see the movie. Of course the formula worked the first time around, and I'm sure that I'll see this, but color me disappointed.
I guess it's better to see a movie like this with low expectations.
Well the first one was overrated anyway so what do you expect.
Right on both counts. This trailer is like the faux Funny Or Die parody of how lame and uninspired a sequel could be for this.
Mike Tyson tattoo artist sues to block "Hangover"
LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) -The man who gave Mike Tyson his distinctive facial tattoo has sued Warner Bros. over the similar-looking facial art on Ed Helms' character in the upcoming comedy "The Hangover: Part II." S. Victor Whitmill, an award-winning tattoo artist who calls the Tyson design "one of the most distinctive tattoos in the nation," is asking for an injunction to stop the release of the highly-anticipated comedy sequel, set to bow in the United States over Memorial Day weekend at the end of May. "When Mr. Whitmill created the Original Tattoo, Mr Tyson agreed that Mr. Whitmill would own the artwork and thus, the copyright in the Original Tattoo," argues the complaint, filed Thursday in federal court in Missouri. "Warner Bros. Entertainment, Inc. --without attempting to contact Mr. Whitmill, obtain his permission, or credit his creation --has copied Mr. Whitmill's Original Tattoo and placed it on the face of another actor ... This unauthorized exploitation of the Original Tattoo constitutes copyright infringement." Warners declined to comment on the suit. It's an interesting lawsuit. Copyrighted works are copyrighted works, no matter whether they are painted on canvases or walls or the bodies of former heavyweight champions. Whitmill attaches to the lawsuit his copyright registration for the "Original Tattoo," as well as Tyson's signed release granting rights in the work. (He also includes some photos of himself with the boxer while applying the tattoo in 2003 in Las Vegas.) The designs do look very similar. And what makes the matter dicey for Warners is that the tattoo on the Helms character appears to be a direct comedic reference to Tyson, who appeared extensively in the first film. That might make it tough to argue that the designs are merely coincidentally similar. But Warners could argue that the copyright isn't valid, or that the studio changed the design just enough to escape infringement, or that the use in the film is "transformative," meaning it is depicted in a larger context and thus a fair use, or that's it's a parody. Whitmill also is challenging the use of the image in ad materials and trailers. What's scary for the studio is the request for an injunction to stop the movie's release. A few years back, Warners was forced to fork over a hefty settlement to the author of the source material for its "Dukes of Hazzard" film when a judge issued an injunction weeks before the film's release.
Fuuuuucccckkkk youuu. it's the most generic tribal tattoo known to man, except it's on someone's face.
A paint by numbers sequel thats not as funny or entertaining as the first but because I wasn't expecting much I laughed out loud a couple of times. What a waste of 10 bucks....
THIS IS NOT A SEQUEL, IS A REMAKE.
It's the same fucking thing with a different background. All of it. I don't have to warn you of Spoilers because if you have seen the first one, you have been spoiled. Even the ending. Everything is the same. Fucking Hollywood!!!
EXACTLY
You Asked For It America: Craig Mazin Hired To Write 'The Hangover Part 3' Will The Wolfpack Head To Amsterdam Next?
Source: The Playlist
Well this was inevitable. After "The Hangover Part II" shattered the R-rated comedy opening weekend numbers this past Memorial Day holiday with a ridiculous $135 million haul, plans are already moving on a sequel. And as befits a sequel that was a lukewarm and ultimately pretty boring retread of the first film, it looks like they're gonna keep watering it down for the next go-round. The Wrap reports that Craig Mazin, who co-wrote "The Hangover Part II," has been hired back to pen the third installment. To those of you who disagreed with our sentiment that the film is pale copy of its predecessor that manages to both up the raunch and the filth and remain kind of boring all at the same time (this writer began losing interest after about an hour), this would be a good time point out that Mazin's previous credits include: "Scary Movie 3," "Scary Movie 4" and "Superhero Movie." He also was one of the producers on what is arguably Todd Phillips' worst film, "School For Scoundrels." So if you want more of the same, that's exactly what you're gonna get. Mazin will probably just take the "The Hangover 2" script, scratch out wherever it says Bangkok, and replace it with something else. So where will the The Wolfpack go next? "Probably Amsterdam," Jamie Chung told THR at last week. "If you think of the coolest, craziest cities in the world, it would have to be Las Vegas, Bangkok and Amsterdam." "Amsterdam could be a different kind of hangover," Justin Bartha added. "It could be fun. And Zach [Galifanakis] will probably already be there." But by time they get to filming, Amsterdam could no longer be the pot haven of the world. The Netherlands government recently announced that they may be drastically changing the rules surrounding their famous "coffee shops": banning tourists entirely and making it more difficult for native citizens to get their brownies. Seems like a pretty effective way to kill tourism to the country in general, but what do we know. Either way, Todd Phillips recently said a third film would end the franchise, but if it keeps making this kind of mad cash we're sure Warner Bros. will want to keep it going. While we wish the original "The Hangover" writers Jon Lucas and Scott Moore would come back, but they're busy getting their own directorial career off the ground. "Rabbit Hole" star Miles Teller recently signed on in the lead role of the pair's directorial debut "21 And Over." But it doesn't seem like they're straying too far from "The Hangover" wheelhouse. The film follows "two childhood friends who drag their straight-arrow buddy out to celebrate his 21st birthday the night before an all-important med school interview. But when one beer leads to another, the evening spirals into a wild epic misadventure of debauchery and mayhem that none of them will ever forget." Is it possible to get a hangover from hangover movies? We're beginning to think so.
It's not fun to pile on. If you haven't witnessed it for yourself, chances are you've heard "mixed things" (putting it kindly) about "The Hangover Part II" and I'll confirm what you probably already know, it's not a very good movie. I didn't think the original film was a comedy classic or anything but it was at the least, very funny and a great launching pad for Zach Galifianakis (who I'd been loosely following since his VH1 days). The second movie is yes, a complete note-for-note recreation of the first film but darker and without most of the laughs. For starters, it's almost impossible to imagine the laziness that went into crafting the screenplay that transplants every detail of the first film into the new one. We're not watching these characters on a new adventure, we're watching them relive the same nightmare in a new setting. It's like the next episode of a terrible procedural show like C.S.I., except you just paid $13 to watch it.
Bradley Cooper (who I was a fan of in his "Alias" days) is now portraying a charisma-free asshole who I'm assuming is supposed to be the hero (to frat boys, maybe?) Ed Helms does the best he can with the material and Galifianakis gets off a dozen or so one-liners but they're hardly worth sitting through the long stretches of the film that are devoid of laughs. Todd Phillips remade the first film as a darker, grosser version of itself but he seemed to forget that he was making a comedy wherein it's supposed to be funny. I'm not sure anyone who is interested in this film can be dissuaded from seeing it and while it's not a terrible, excruciating experience it's an ugly, lazy, mostly unfunny one. If you watched the trailer and wondered why they weren't showing any of the funny parts, it's because there really weren't any in the film. But don't listen to me, Videogum really says it best (http://videogum.com/310962/the-videogum-movie-club-the-hangover-part-ii/franchises/the-videogum-movie-club/).
Right now's not at all the time to have this conversation because legitimized film fans are circling their wagons, but as a trash culture guy let me tell you what's pretty obvious: this is the better film. I actually didn't realize until the Videogum article. It does all the same things and makes all the same jokes but it's more offensive and less sympathetic? Oh, I mean clearly this will be a great midnight screening about a decade from now. I'll probably wait until then to see the movie.
Haven't seen this yet although I will inevitably netflix it when it comes on DVD. I'm not expecting it to be any good based on the trailer and the general consensus here.
I can confirm, however, that having met Craig Mazin at AFF last year he does indeed come across as a lazy dick.
Quote from: Merrill Errol Lehrl on May 31, 2011, 11:45:39 PM
this is the better film.
Not true. The other one is not a masterpiece and this one sucks Not because its predictable but because its not even funny. When you write something and you know exactly how you want everything to be scene to scene, it's impossible for it to result in anything good.
Sometimes the bad ones stay bad throughout the years and develop a kind of charm, while the mediocre ones lose their appeal. No one wants to revisit some middleroad shit, but a failure retains certain interests. That's what I mean. The reason I made my comment is because people are speaking out against the film and criticizing it for how bad it is and how stupid people are for seeing the movie and how the world sucks and all that. So it sounds like a real snapshot of idiocy in 2011, and may continue to be that for the future, while the first may just seem like some obviously lame and mechanical Las Vegas comedy. But I'm only being speculative and haven't even seen the movie.
I agree with you, Merril. I had major qualms with the first one, and this will be the movie I revisit more often . It's just more visually satisfying, and I like the atmosphere better. However, I'm not really a fan of the franchise and I'll probably tune out once I got Alan's lines down pat, as is usually the case with most of us amirite?
Quote from: Reelist on June 02, 2011, 02:01:33 AM
as is usually the case with most of us amirite?
no.
Warner Bros. Planning To Digitally Alter Ed Helms Tattoo In 'The Hangover Part II' Due To Lawsuit
DVD Release Planned For December
Source: Playlist
You can bet Warner Bros. was hoping this issue would go away. Just in time for the film's theatrical release last month, tattoo artist S. Victor Whitmill filed a lawsuit seeking damages from the studio for replicating Mike Tyson's tattoo that he designed—and claims he own's the copyright too—without his permission. Whitmill sought to have the film barred from release while it was all sorted, and while he lost that battle, he may have won the war. Hollywood Esq reports in arguing against an expedited trial date which would have seen the studio and Whitmill lock horns in a courtroom as early as August, Warner Bros, in what is seemingly an admission of guilt and a bit of cost control, say they plan to digitally alter the tattoo for the planned December home video release, thus lessening the amount of money Whitmill can claim he's owed for infringement of his copyright. Got all that? So basically, Whitmill can only claim for what he would have earned in licensing his tattoo for the theatrical release, not from any future revenues, because by then Warner Bros. will have changed it enough to keep them legal. It's a rather unprecedented—and very, very expensive—move by the studio (who knows what it will cost to go through the film frame by frame making changes). Typically, Hollywood likes to drag out court cases for years until their opponents give up or can't afford to continue, but it seems Whitmill had everything in order and the studio realized it was probably in their best interest to squash this case as soon as they could. The trial is now set for February 21, 2012 at which time damages and a decision on whether or not to pull the film will be made by a jury. But we'd guess by then Warner Bros. and Whitmill will have come to an understanding and we wouldn't be surprised if an out-of-court settlement is reached. It will be interesting to see what the mouthy director Todd Phillips will have to say about this and moreover, just what they will change about the tattoo that is on Ed Helms' face for pretty much three-quarters of the movie (not to mention featured extensively in the marketing materials for the film). What happens in Bangkok, stays in Bangkok but apparently, not this. It looks like the next sequel to the "The Hangover" will play out in the courtroom.
America: Where even a tattoo artist is a fucking lawyer.
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ringtattoos.info%2Fimages%2Flarge%2Ftattoo-artists%2Fbali-tattoo-artist-2_LRG.jpg&hash=c435716da8d4a0352f06318895b3a0d3ba97b9d0)"I only do law shit when I got spare time."
that tattoo doesn't even serve a purpose besides establish Mike Tyson's presence somewhere along the lines in what happened the night before, then he shows up and it's like "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO." They should've gone for more than just one-upping the 'crazyness' of the original. Getting a facial tattoo is really not that funny.
Quote from: The PlaylistJust in time for the film's theatrical release last month, tattoo artist S. Victor Whitmill filed a lawsuit seeking damages from the studio for replicating Mike Tyson's tattoo that he designed—and claims he own's the copyright too—without his permission.
What a mess of a sentence.
I'm assuming modage didn't write this.
this piece of shit sequel is horrible and the paycheck atmosphere in this film gave me a headache. the blatant blatant product placement out of left field didn't help "can I get you a drink? - I'll have a SmartWater please"...end scene. politely get the fuck. these idiots aren't even trying. don't release this and tell me it's a motion picture...do not do that.
....did I just kill this thread?
I think The Hangover Part II killed this thread.
It's like the original Hangover was the Light World from Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, and Hangover 2 was the Dark World from Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past. In that they're the same, just one's darker and a little weirder.
And Ang Lee's kid is not a good actor. Sorry, kid.
The Hangover Part II thread had funnier moments than the actual movie. i'm squinting at you, squints.
I know I'm late to the party and beating a dead horse but I'd just like to reiterate that this is one of the meanest movies in the history of ever. Jesus. I couldn't even finish it.
And am I the only one who thinks Ken Joeng used to be funny in small doses but is now insufferable?
My korean girlfriend hates him
He was great in Knocked Up and that little bit he played in that episode of Curb, but in The hangover, Party Down, Community, even the little bit in Pineapple Express he is just fucking unbearable. I cite him showing up on the scene in the first hangover as the point where i started to give absolutely two shits about these movies.
Quote from: squints on June 24, 2011, 01:21:57 PMI cite him showing up on the scene in the first hangover as the point where i started to give absolutely two shits about these movies.
exactly! he had to come after one of the best lines in the movie, too ( "doug's probably dead in a ditch somewhere, getting buttfucked by a meth head! ) Once I saw his little Asian ass I totally tuned out. Not to ruin anything, but I guess his entrance in the sequel is funnier, though much more disgusting.
his acting career peaked in the flamenco dancing episode of Community and his comedy peaked in the Extras on the special edition of the Superbad DVD when he played a tranny hooker in Cop Car Confessions.
I couldn't believe how much people laughed in the first hangover (in general too but especially) everytime he said some ghetto slang. like how are people still amazed by ghetto slangs?
The way he puts on that fake asian accent while talking ghetto is fucking annoying too. They could've easily hired someone who's actually gangster, except they probably wouldn't take their clothes off, much better way to go IMO.
but I can't get mad at Ken Jeoung though; 'cause I find him just as offensively unfunny as the rest of the movie.
I've never found Todd Phillips funny and I am so shocked that most of the world and most of my friends and most people I respect do. I feel like I can actually dissect and pinpoint why exactly he's not funny, but still, it won't matter.