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Title: Cop Out (aka A Couple of Dicks)
Post by: MacGuffin on December 24, 2009, 11:17:59 AM
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Trailer here. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/copout/)

Release Date: February 26th, 2010 (wide)

Starring: Bruce Willis, Tracy Morgan, Seann William Scott, Adam Brody, Jason Lee
 
Directed by: Kevin Smith 

Premise: On the trail of a stolen high-value baseball card, maverick cop and his partner tangle with a memorabilia-obsessed gangster and rescue a Mexican beauty, who holds the key to millions in laundered drug money.
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Post by: picolas on December 24, 2009, 02:26:54 PM
yeah. no.
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Post by: ©brad on December 24, 2009, 02:54:00 PM
Ugh that was painful.
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Post by: Stefen on December 24, 2009, 04:55:48 PM
It doesn't even say it's from Kevin Smith. Haha.

Tracy Morgan gets in my nerves. He's the only thing I dislike about 30 Rock.
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Post by: pete on December 24, 2009, 05:35:35 PM
did kevin smith forget that you can't just reference your ethnicity for laughs anymore?
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Post by: Stefen on December 24, 2009, 05:53:40 PM
Kevin Smith didn't write this, surprisingly.
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Post by: SiliasRuby on December 24, 2009, 06:31:08 PM
Really Bruce?... REALLY?
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Post by: Pubrick on December 24, 2009, 07:40:50 PM
Kevin Smith on why 'A Couple of Dicks' became 'Cop Out'
by Adam B. Vary
from EW.com

The new trailer for the upcoming buddy cop comedy Cop Out just hit the internet, but anyone who had been following the project knows the film, out February 26, 2010, had long gone by a more distinctive title: A Couple of Dicks. Fortunately, the film has an even more distinctive director: Kevin Smith, the famously profane indie film hero (Clerks, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Zack and Miri Make a Porno) making his debut as a director of a script he did not write himself. Smith was more than happy to give EW his frank perspective on how A Couple of Dicks became Cop Out — in a nutshell, blame the networks.

Kevin Smith:
Look, losing A Couple of Dicks was almost akin to losing my own dick. It was a perfect buddy-cop movie comedy title. Everyone knew it. You couldn't say that title to somebody without a f—ing smile crossing their face. But what I had gone through with Zack and Miri Make a Porno — "porno" had become very problematic, it became tough for us to advertise [the film], blah blah blah. Warner Bros. decided, "Hey man, we'll call the networks and see if we're going to get any problems [with A Couple of Dicks as a title], months before the movie's ever going to come out." The top 3 networks — CBS, ABC, NBC — said we can't run one of your spots before 9 o'clock.

I'm like, "Well what about Inglourious Basterds?" And I guess, because of the spelling, they got away with it. So we were like, "Can we call it A Couple of D.I.C.s?" Because that's the proper acronym for detectives, Detective In Charge. And [the networks] kicked that back as well. It was the pluralizing of any form of dick, whether it was d-i-c-k or any derivation.

So my feeling was like, it's an R-rated movie, so who the f— are we talking to anyway before 9 o'clock? Warner Bros's feeling was like, "Hey man, we have to advertise to the sports audience on Saturday and Sunday and all those sporting events usually take place before 9 p.m. in the evening." At which point, I was like, "Oh wow, you guys are way smarter than me."

All credit due to Warner Bros., they tried really f—ing hard to score that title. It just came down to a point blank choice of run a campaign where you're not going to be able to advertise on the big three networks before 9 o'clock, or run a campaign where there are no hindrances. I came from a world where you play the ball where it lays. If I hadn't gone through Zack and Miri Make a Porno, I think I would have gotten my old-school f—ing angry indie spirit, if you will: "Fuck it, we live or die by A Couple of Dicks, or I take my name off the picture!" But even my mom was like, "I might go see Zack and Miri, but I would never go see Zack and Miri Make a Porno." I feel like Chief Brody in Jaws 2: I've seen the shark up close. I ain't going through that hell again.

And I've got a lot of people online, on Twitter especially, going, "Don't lose this fight! Don't let them change it!" And it's like, "Dude, it's not my call." All these people online seem to think I have the almighty juice. I got no juice. I made Jersey Girl. I can't pull any f—ing strings.

So for months now, they've always had A Couple of Cops as kind of this fallback thing — a placeholder, essentially. And then all of a sudden, one of the producers of the movie was like, "Hey they're locking the title, because the trailer is going to be put on Sherlock Holmes." And I was like, "This is an abundance of wonderful and horrible information." I want to be on Sherlock Holmes because everyone on the planet will probably go see it on Christmas, but I don't want it to be A Couple of Cops. That just seems like we didn't even try! We went from a really clever title to the least clever title of all time. I was like, "God that title is going to feel like such a f—ing cop out." And [the producer] goes, "We should just call the movie that."

I liked it because it sounds like exactly what we set out to be: An '80s buddy cop movie, without sounding like Loaded Weapon, or some such s—. But more importantly, to me, the title tells the story of what happened to our other title. I think it's kind of ironic. It's win-win. For 100 percent of the potential audience for this movie, I would say 0.5 percent knows that we were once called A Couple of Dicks. After they read this article, maybe you could bump it up to 0.75 percent. The rest of the potential audience, they have no idea what this movie used to be called. For them it will always be Cop Out. They'll just never know that there was that one magical moment where it was called A Couple of Dicks. We were making up sequel titles in our heads, dude. Like, you know, Two Bigger Dicks. Or Dicks 2: It Just Got Harder.

Somebody online said you could take Cop Out and vary it with like, "Rock out with your Cop Out!" Hopefully that will be a tagline on a poster or a trailer. And if it is, we owe that random dude on Twitter like at least a few free passes.

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kevin smith needs to shut the hell up or grow the hell up. what a joke. he disses a nice and funny title like Loaded Weapon and then congratulates himself on future sequel ideas like Two Bigger Dicks and Dicks 2: It Just Got Harder. he thinks he lost his "juice" in the business cos he made Jersey Girl, uh, maybe it's cos you can't think of anything beyond the general crotch area you stupid cunt. you told the world about your wife's TAINT!

the obvious alternative would have been A Couple of Privates.
Title: Re: Cop Out (aka A Couple of Dicks)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on December 24, 2009, 08:30:22 PM
My alternative title would have been, "Cop A Feel"
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Post by: Gamblour. on December 26, 2009, 07:52:55 PM
Yeah, whatever Kevin Smith. Hey, hey, I got your title right here -- Cop Out: Is That a Gun in Your Pocket or Are You Just Happy To See Me? Or how about Cop Out: Unfunny Fucking Premise with Rotten Dialogue and Direction, i.e. a Kevin Smith action film?
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Post by: MacGuffin on February 05, 2010, 11:18:37 AM
Red Band Trailer here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0czPorcdVM)
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Post by: mogwai on February 05, 2010, 01:00:18 PM
Yet another Kevin Smith flop movie coming around yo ass area, hear me son?
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Post by: socketlevel on February 05, 2010, 01:20:13 PM
i'll say this from the trailer, the cinematography looks way more advanced then anything he's ever put his name on. by saying that i'm just saying it looks normal.
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Post by: Neil on February 05, 2010, 10:22:01 PM
He probably just got sick of have to preface everything he said with "well, i'm not a visual director, but..."
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Post by: Stefen on February 05, 2010, 11:46:53 PM
Quote from: Neil on February 05, 2010, 10:22:01 PM
He probably just got sick of have to preface everything he said with "well, i'm not a visual director, but..."

haha he always says that.
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Post by: socketlevel on February 06, 2010, 01:57:29 PM
true, i do dig his candid nature though, especially when regarding his own work. i think that "i'm not a visual director" thing became a crutch. almost like he wouldn't branch out cuz he pigeon held himself.
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Post by: Ravi on February 06, 2010, 11:57:57 PM
He got Vilmos Zsigmond to shoot Jersey Girl, but IIRC it didn't look much different from Smith's other films.
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Post by: Stefen on February 07, 2010, 12:23:46 AM
Quote from: Ravi on February 06, 2010, 11:57:57 PM
He got Vilmos Zsigmond to shoot Jersey Girl, but IIRC it didn't look much different from Smith's other films.

haha that is true. Zsigmond did shoot JG and it still looked like crap.
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Post by: Pubrick on February 08, 2010, 04:01:46 AM
it's my fault for watching that trailer

what. a. piece. of. SHIT.

it's exactly what i expected from someone with the mind of a 12year old. pathetic.
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Post by: md on February 28, 2010, 02:06:00 AM
30 minute increments are all you need of Tracy Morgan's humor.

The audience ate it up though...

I felt my intelligence slowly draining so I left an hour in.
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on February 28, 2010, 02:54:42 AM
It's funny, but all the wannabee film critics I know at my school are also huge Kevin Smith fans. I'm friends with them on facebook so their reaction has been interesting because they know this is a sell out work for Smith since he didn't write it and they start out very critical in their commentary, but halfway through their reviews they are admitting they still really liked the movie but just didn't love it.

I'm so happy I stopped wanting a job that makes you watch every movie in theaters. I'm also happy I don't comment on anything they say ever.
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Post by: Ravi on February 28, 2010, 04:14:39 AM
It had funny moments, but overall it felt like a collage of disparate elements, some of which worked, many of which didn't.  The Pollak/Brody duo was an interesting attempt at two characters who pretty much spoke in nothing but cop-movie-cliche dialogue.  Seann William Scott was always funny.  The movie as a whole was always almost as funny as it should have been.

The flow within the scenes and between the scenes was off.  I couldn't quite put my finger on it.  It just ungracefully lurches from one scene to the next.  The "Editing by Kevin Smith" credit helped explain that.

Long story short, I paid $10 to see a mediocre movie.
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Post by: Ravi on May 13, 2010, 11:08:57 AM
Return of the Kevin Smith Peekaboo:

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Post by: pete on May 13, 2010, 11:27:32 AM
wow.  that bottom right corner is amazing.
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Post by: matt35mm on May 13, 2010, 11:57:16 AM
Looks like Tracy Morgan is going to shoot Kevin Smith, and Kevin Smith is all like, "Don't shoot me!"
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Post by: tpfkabi on May 13, 2010, 12:27:22 PM
wow, i had no idea Kevin Smith was attached to this until opening this thread today.

that Kevin Smith thing on the cover is a joke, right? in the post-Photoshop world i really don't know what to believe any more.
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Post by: Pas on May 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
And me I had no idea there would be a little Kevin Smith on the low-right corner of this DVD until opening this thread today. Oh bigideas :therethere:

Also: Rock out with your glock out edition... really?