Narc

Started by SHAFTR, February 03, 2003, 12:11:40 PM

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SHAFTR

Did anyone go and see this?  I went last week, it was only $3.  Anyways, I actually enjoyed the film.  Ray Liota and Jason Patrick are excellent and the film looks good.  It occasionally falls into the trap of repeating police drama motifs but it is still pulled off well.

I do think the 4 shots at once editing along with the fast motion filming was overused.
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©brad

Really want to see it. Been hearing some good good things.

Satcho9

Saw it. Liked it. Went to sleep.

polkablues

I think "Narc" has cult classic potential.  Much bleaker than the typical film you'd go see at the cineplex, Jason Patric is one of the most under-utilized actors out there, and it's good to see Liotta in something that doesn't suck.

I loved the scene where his wife is leaving him, and you see her in the mirror, looking at him, but the reflection that we see is looking away from him.  That struck me as a really nice bit of filmmaking.
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Cecil

yeah, not a bad film.

Jon

I saw it...two nights ago and it really blew me away. It really also struck me how small the scope of the film was, and I don't mean that in a bad way, and myabe I'm wrong anyway.

Travis Bickle

ehhhh. thought it was alright. wasn't as impressed as youz guyz. the performances were great, the style..yeah overused, and it lacked story.
y'know, this is the exact same way i fealt about 25th hour, but the performances in that film made me enjoy it way more for some reason.
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CollinBullock

I thought it was a good flick, I enjoyed it, and I think it's best work Ray Liotta has done since Goodfellas.  But I have a question.

WARNING, SPOILERS (although I doubt you'd be reading thsi if you haven't seen the movie)

At the end, as Ray Liotta is bleeding to death, they talkabout the little girl who he found in the closet all those years ago.  Except, they explained she was a teenageror something.  I didn't get it.  What the hell was up with the little girl.  Could anyone explain it for me?
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polkablues

The little girl grew up to become the wife of Ray Liotta's partner.  Since Liotta was like a father figure to her, he took it badly when the partner became a junkie, and that's one of the supposed motives he would have had for killing the guy, if he had killed the guy.
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MacGuffin

Blind bought this today and really liked it. It had bits of story cliches (the cop wife, the crack arguing couple, etc.), but I thought Carnahan brought some fresh energy to it with his style, despite also seeing a heavy "French Connection" influence. I'm not a big fan of 'shaky/handheld cam', but the opening scene was pretty 'in-your-face' and was used well there. The editing was excellent (I liked the quad screen split) and the performances were great.

Also, on the DVD, in the interview with William Friedkin, he gives praise to PTA:

"A lot of people now talk about the great renaissance in American film in the 70's which I think was true with people like Coppola and Scorsese and Spielberg and Bogdanovich and many others. One of the differences between those directors then and the younger group today is that the people in the 70's had great success with their films; the audience was on the same wavelength with them. Today I think these young filmmakers are every bit as talented as those guys, but they are not really connecting with the mainstream audience. The people like Paul Thomas Anderson and Wes Anderson and Spike Jonze and now Joe Carnahan. As far as I'm concerned, their films are the equivalent, and have taken American cinema further than we did, but the audience has not caught up to them. The critics have. You know, there's great critical affection for all these films, and I think they're brilliant, especially Carnahan."
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modage

i saw this in theatres when it was released (January i think?), and liked it.  i really really loved the opening and got very excited for the rest of it, but then it did sort of fit into some of the cop film conventions. felt like a 70s kind of cop movie serpico, french connection kind of a gritty morality struggle.  i would've liked it better had i not really been expecting something great (as all the pre-release hype had suggested).  but i would like to see it again to give it another chance.  great performances i thought by liotta and patrick.  it felt a little "film-school-y" at times when the camera was panning around the car for their long conversation, not that theres anything wrong with that.  but overall i wished the whole movie had lived up to the promise of that great adrenaline shot opening.
Christopher Nolan's directive was clear to everyone in the cast and crew: Use CGI only as a last resort.

modage

Joe Carnahan Helming Void at Universal
Source: Variety Friday, October 17, 2003

Universal Pictures has hired Joe Carnahan to direct Void, a gritty crime drama written by Guillermo Arriaga (21 Grams).

The contemporary drama centers on a female Chicago homicide cop who arrives at a prison to provide transfer for a dangerous criminal she helped put behind bars. Events get in the way of a clean transfer.

Carahan will look to do the film after Mission: Impossible 3, which is gearing up for a 2004 start with Tom Cruise starring and producing.
Christopher Nolan's directive was clear to everyone in the cast and crew: Use CGI only as a last resort.

Gloria

I saw this in January.  I don't think I enjoyed it quite as much as some of you did.  It had some very good points and Ray Liotta was so good it was scary.  Sometimes, it played out like a very long Law and Order episode. I enjoyed the movie and tried to forgive its faults. My friends hated this movie and I have never been able to pick a movie for everyone to watch since.

Weak2ndAct

So I bought the dvd today used and just gave it a re-watch.  I had seen it a while ago, in workprint form, and thought it was decent, but not great.  Good thing I gave this one a second chance.   I saw a completely different movie-- this time it knocked my socks off.  Just balls to the wall style and acting (Liotta... Holy God, could this guy be any more intense?).  In the version I had seen, they were temping the score from the end of Full Metal Jacket over most of the flashback stuff, and the wife's subplot was severely cut down once things got rolling.  

I really loathed Carnahan's first movie (Blood, Guts, Bullets, and Tarantino/Mamet wannabe whatever it's called), how he pulled this one off is beyond me.  I did like his BMW short though.  That guy can direct action.

modage

Quote from: Weak2ndActSo I bought the dvd today used and just gave it a re-watch.  I had seen it a while ago, in workprint form, and thought it was decent, but not great.  Good thing I gave this one a second chance.   I saw a completely different movie-- this time it knocked my socks off.  Just balls to the wall style and acting (Liotta... Holy God, could this guy be any more intense?).  In the version I had seen, they were temping the score from the end of Full Metal Jacket over most of the flashback stuff, and the wife's subplot was severely cut down once things got rolling.

i had the same experience.  first time, thought it was okay.  but i bought it used for 10 bucks after macguffin liked it so much, and gave it another viewing and really liked it a lot more that time.
Christopher Nolan's directive was clear to everyone in the cast and crew: Use CGI only as a last resort.