Ocean's 13

Started by MacGuffin, January 04, 2006, 02:45:54 PM

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MacGuffin

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grand theft sparrow

I like the mustaches.

But it's oddly uncomfortable knowing that Julia Roberts isn't in this one.  I guess because if SHE didn't want to be in it, then, well... yikes!

Pozer

maybe she relized how useless she was after the 'beef up' of the character they tried to pull off in twelve.

Ghostboy

I bet she still shows up in it anyway.

modage

looks good.  probably not as impressive a teaser as the 2nd one but we know how that panned out anyway.  i dont know if there is a film soderbergh could make that i wouldnt see, but i'm glad he/the cast seem to be on the same page that the 2nd one sucked.  did anyone else think the oceans 13 logo looked a little familiar?  dekapenticon maybe?
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diggler

I enjoyed oceans 12 much more than oceans 11, even with the julia gag.

i'm sure she will be a plot point in this one, if not a major character.
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polkablues

Am I the only one ecstatic over the lack of Julia Roberts?  I mean, she's dead weight, right?  I'm sure we can all agree on that.
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gob

I'm psyched about this. Watched the first one the other day and was reminded how good it was. Soderbergh + Clooney = a usually reliable formula. I like the tone of the trailer and if that's maintained then it could be mighty fine.
Plus Pacino might have found a nice sleazily entertaining role for himself and Ellen Barkin is hot. And if they ever decide to use The Penguin again in Nolan's Batman movies then Matt Damon with that fake nose is a surefire candidate.

grand theft sparrow

Quote from: polkablues on December 21, 2006, 01:40:54 AM
Am I the only one ecstatic over the lack of Julia Roberts?  I mean, she's dead weight, right?  I'm sure we can all agree on that.

Absolutely.  My concern isn't that there will be little or no Julia Roberts in the movie.  It's that the script might be so bad that she didn't want to be in it.  She was the MacGuffin of the first one and was important in the second one (I must be the only one who liked the Julia gag in 12) so it stands to reason that if she isn't a featured character in the third one, it's because she doesn't want to be in it.

Kind of like Steve Guttenberg not doing Police Academy 5.

©brad

that "teaser" almost put me to sleep (except for the last exchange btwn clooney and andy garcia...). did it have a pulse, or are my laptop speakers that shitty?

they shoulda done something cool w/ pacino in the teaser, liked save his appearance until the end. it would've been a nice surprise to the general movie going public who doesn't scour the movie-news-flooded internet 24/7 to learn that he was in this thing.

i liked ocean's 12, despite it's nonsensical plot and catherine zeta jone's annoying-as-hell character. the fact that this movie is being positioned as a "recovery" from ocean's 12 makes me wary.




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Ocean's Thirteen
Source: Entertainment Weekly

George Clooney had a very simple reason to reunite with director Steven Soderbergh for a third Ocean's movie: ''Steven and I don't like getting tagged in the chin all that often.'' No kidding. After the release of 2004's Ocean's Twelve, the highly successful duo got taken to pieces by critics for being lazy and self-indulgent. ''It wasn't as good, and that was our fault,'' admits the Academy Award-winning actor. ''So when we started working on this one, we thought, The secret is to get it back to just the guys doing what they do. Steven said we should call it Ocean's: The One We Should Have Made Last Time.''

And what are the guys doing this time around? Let's ask Ellen Barkin, who, along with Al Pacino, represents this edition's principal fresh blood. Alas, the longtime friend of Clooney and franchise producer Jerry Weintraub dutifully refuses to elaborate on the plot. Even when we threaten to shoot a pretend puppy in our pretend lap unless she coughs up some answers, the actress huskily purrs, ''Oh, I hate animals, including my own.''

Thankfully, Matt Damon turns out to be a total blabbermouth. ''It's a straight revenge story,'' says the actor. ''Al Pacino is a big-time Vegas guy who's building the greatest hotel ever and screws [Elliott Gould] out of his share. So the guys get back together to make sure that the hotel goes down in flames.''

Now, that sounds like an Ocean's movie. But even if it connects with audiences like the original, Clooney is adamant it will be the last installment — at least with him. ''If you ask Jerry, there should be 20 of them,'' he laughs. ''But I think they're going to have to go to the next generation — because [pretty soon] we're going to have colostomy bags and wheelchairs.''
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grand theft sparrow

To say that it's the first part 3 of the season that delivers exactly what it promised isn't saying much but it's not bad.  I put it in the same category of entertaining but unnecessary sequels along with Terminator 3.  I had fun, the Ocean's 12 haters by and large will enjoy this one, you'll leave with a smile on your face but if the movie had never been made, you'd never ask for it.  And by now, you know the formula; it's never a question of "will they pull it off?" but "how will they pull it off?"  So if you're watching the Ocean's movies for anything other than a 2-hour dose of cool (or surprisingly, Al Pacino's most natural performance in the last 30 years), don't bother with this one; just watch the other two.

This one, though, has a major plot hole which would have bothered me if the movie wasn't so inconsequential: [SPOILER] If Carl Reiner is this old-guard Vegas dude, as is Al Pacino, how the fuck, in all these years of being in and around Vegas, presumably knowing the same people, did Pacino not recognize him?  And for that matter, how did he not know that Clooney and company ripped off Andy Garcia?  You'd think that a big-balls casino owner would know who they are because everyone else seems to know who they are. [END SPOILER]

And with the women completely gone from the movie, it's finally very clear that the movies are about the love story between George Clooney and Brad Pitt's characters.

All in all, it's fine for the time you're there, but once it's over, you'll likely never see it again until channel-surfing past TNT one night at 3 in the morning.

Now Soderbergh needs to stop fucking around and make the Che movies already.