Best ironic use of music in a movie?

Started by ShanghaiOrange, September 23, 2003, 01:15:57 PM

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ShanghaiOrange

#15
September 23, 2003, 06:37:48 PM
Quote from: rustinglass
Quote from: ShanghaiOrangeI guess the classical music in 2001 one could be seen as ironic in some sense too. :( So yeah...Kubrick!.... :(

In what sense?

I knew someone was going to ask that.
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Pas

#16
September 23, 2003, 09:00:21 PM
Great thread idea

I would have to say that song Frank wants his friend to lip synch to, Sandman something. I'm not good at this.

Cecil

#17
September 23, 2003, 10:10:46 PM
although it was in a terrible terrible movie, and im not gay, i swear to god but, "without you" in rules of attraction

ElPandaRoyal

#18
September 24, 2003, 12:00:02 PM
A Quick One, While He's Away in Rushmore (that's about the 3219284732876th time I use this song in this movie to answer a post...  :P )[/quote]
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ShanghaiOrange

#19
September 24, 2003, 12:49:16 PM
Oh yeah and:

"Danny Boy" in Miller's Crossing, mofos

"Atlantis","Layla", et al in Goodfellas
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Derek237

#20
September 24, 2003, 04:10:44 PM
Here's an ironic use of music in Goodfellas that i've been thinking of:

The movie starts out with all these classic italian songs playing (Rags To Riches, Roses Are Red) but then as the movie and the timeframe progresses the songs are now rock (Gimmie Shelter, Sunshine of Your Love, Jump Into the Fire). The irony is that at the very end, the song playing is a rock version of an old italian classic. My Way, originally sung by Sinatra but now sung by the Sex Pistols. There's no way this was a coincidence.

SoNowThen

#21
September 24, 2003, 04:13:47 PM
No, that's a perfect example.

And apparently in the end of some Sex Pistols movie, Sid finishes this song and mock "fires" a gun into the crowd, just as Tommy is "firing" at us, the audience.

...and this is also supposed to reference the last shot of The Great Train Robbery -- the first "crime" film ever made (or something like that).

I read that in Scorsese Connection. Cool huh?
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mutinyco

#22
September 24, 2003, 05:13:06 PM
Not some Sex Pistol movie. It's in The Great Rock n' Roll Swindle -- but essentially it was Sid's music video for the song. You can also see it reinacted in Sid and Nancy. I don't know if that ending works though in Goodfellas, and it's proably his best film. If that is the connection that's being made, it's totally abstracted from the narrative of the film. There's no evidence of The Great Train Robbery (nobody's ever watching it, no references made), so at best it's Scorsese's own private in-joke. It always stood out, not quite fitting, and it's because it serves no dramatic purpose.
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MacGuffin

#23
September 24, 2003, 05:29:36 PM


Scene: 14: A life-size closeup picture of the leader of the outlaw band:

The film closes with a medium shot close-up of the bandit chief (with green-tinted shirt and red-tinted kerchief) (George Barnes) with his hat pushed back on his head. He points and shoots his revolver point-blank, directly into the camera (and, of course, at the audience). This caused a tremendously terrifying sensation at the time. This final punch to the film was totally irrelevant to the plot. Theater managers were free to either begin or end the picture with this scene - selecting it as either a prologue or epilogue.


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#24
September 24, 2003, 06:02:25 PM
Quote from: Pas RapportGreat thread idea

I would have to say that song Frank wants his friend to lip synch to, Sandman something. I'm not good at this.
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#25
September 24, 2003, 06:12:10 PM
..everythings in the right place.....

..radiohead..


..vanilla sky

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#26
September 24, 2003, 06:16:54 PM
in heaven... everything is fine
in heaven... everything is fine
in heaven... everything is fine:
you've got your good thing...
and I've got mine.
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#27
September 24, 2003, 06:21:22 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin

Scene: 14: A life-size closeup picture of the leader of the outlaw band:

The film closes with a medium shot close-up of the bandit chief (with green-tinted shirt and red-tinted kerchief) (George Barnes) with his hat pushed back on his head. He points and shoots his revolver point-blank, directly into the camera (and, of course, at the audience). This caused a tremendously terrifying sensation at the time. This final punch to the film was totally irrelevant to the plot. Theater managers were free to either begin or end the picture with this scene - selecting it as either a prologue or epilogue.



also was used in Tombstone, right?
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mutinyco

#28
September 24, 2003, 07:45:44 PM
There's still no justification for it. Doesn't matter what the reference was. I remember when I saw Goodfellas opening night, people were wondering what the point of the shot was. It didn't have any dramatic effect. It seemed out of place.
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modage

#29
September 24, 2003, 07:47:48 PM
Quote from: mutinycoThere's still no justification for it. Doesn't matter what the reference was. I remember when I saw Goodfellas opening night, people were wondering what the point of the shot was. It didn't have any dramatic effect. It seemed out of place.

opening night?  that would make you like 100 right?
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