The Incredible Hulk

Started by MacGuffin, April 30, 2006, 09:58:28 AM

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MacGuffin

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I went into this knowing there would a version 70 minutes longer on DVD.

This does feel like a studio cut. The only elaboration are with the action sequnces. The first 20 minutes of the film show Norton relating to life in Brazil, but the development between him and other characters is meaningful to just introduce a chase scene. It has little do with actual characterization. All that developed is a few comments about Norton's isolation and his good guy persona.

Then the movie adjusts to the love story arc. There is a problem between Norton and Tyler and whether they will reunite after being separated. She moved on and got a new boyfriend. The film even has a few scenes to make us wonder, but things work out pretty quickly to bring them back together. Even Tyler's current boyfriend is discarded in a conveniant and quick plot ploy. The reunited couple go on to face predictable struggles.

The last 20 minutes is a battle between Hulk and others. It felt long and boring because there was little anticipation. There are three major action sequences through out the movie and each one is pretty long in itself. A lot of the story in between is just a very generalized soap opera.

I'm curious about the longer cut so I'll watch it when it comes out.

Ravi

Yep, this is a pretty disconnected film.  There's no real tension (or chemistry) in the romantic subplot, and the film never explores what it is like for Bruce Banner to carry the burden of being The Hulk.  It moves perfunctorily from one scene to another.  The movie is pretty bland, actually.

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So I really liked this, the references to future villians and the old show didn't take me out of the movie although I'm getting tired of the stan lee obligatory cameo, of all those references the best was tony stark himself.

The fight at the campus was great and intense, the last one was ok but too over the place.

So this along Iron Man are the best so far.

Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on June 13, 2008, 11:38:53 PM
I went into this knowing there would a version 70 minutes longer on DVD.

Where did you read that? If they do release that I'm really eager to see that cut.

If you read it in this thread I totally missed it.

Gold Trumpet

Apparently I misspoke. An old news source said there would be such a longer cut on DVD, but to save face and not give in to Edward Norton's demands, the studio will only have deleted scenes on the DVD. The original idea was to do so to show Norton's vision of the film on DVD but as the feud became more public I think it was scrapped.

Alexandro

Edward Norton needs to work with bigtime directors to whom he won't feel superior. When he was in Fight Club he didn't pull any of this shit, nor with Spike in 25th hour, but he has carefully avoided working with directors that won't put up with this from the get go. Back when he was working with relevant directors he was actually making relevant movies, of course you don't hear stories of Norton messing up with Woody Allen's screenplay or Milos Forman's vision of Larry Flynt. If he wants so badly to have control why doesn't he just directs again? Way mor exhausting than just rewrite something and act like a fucking child?

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Quote from: Alexandro on June 19, 2008, 01:55:36 PM
Edward Norton needs to work with bigtime directors to whom he won't feel superior. When he was in Fight Club he didn't pull any of this shit, nor with Spike in 25th hour, but he has carefully avoided working with directors that won't put up with this from the get go. Back when he was working with relevant directors he was actually making relevant movies, of course you don't hear stories of Norton messing up with Woody Allen's screenplay or Milos Forman's vision of Larry Flynt. If he wants so badly to have control why doesn't he just directs again? Way mor exhausting than just rewrite something and act like a fucking child?

I think because directing summer blockbusters means taking two years out of your life. The production concerns are more detailed and it would hinder Norton from doing anything else. But even if he did direct this film he never would have got the cut he wanted. The studio has little confidence in this project to give it over to someone's artistic vision. The Dark Knight, yes, but not Incredible Hulk redux.

MacGuffin

I'm one of the many few who liked Ang Lee's Hulk. It felt like a comic book come to life; a lot of that had to do with the editing. Here, I'm glad to see they kept the emotional center, but it's become a standard comic action flick. It's not bad; I was actually engrossed in the film, but it's lacking any depth of the characters. If people were put off by the bad cgi of the first one, they are not going to feel any better about the special effects in this one.
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Stefen

It was alright. The fight scenes between the two hulks was fucking awesome but everything else is forgettable.

Norton bugs me. I hate his acting style of, "I don't know, it's just (pause) Nevermind. Okay, I mean (pause). Forget it. (pause) Okay, wait (looks away). Just.......ya know (pause)......be careful."

Fuck you, Norton. Spit it the fuck out and stop wasting my time.
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Quote from: Stefen on October 23, 2008, 07:00:14 PM
Norton bugs me. I hate his acting style of, "I don't know, it's just (pause) Nevermind. Okay, I mean (pause). Forget it. (pause) Okay, wait (looks away). Just.......ya know (pause)......be careful."

Fuck you, Norton. Spit it the fuck out and stop wasting my time.

haha, bugs me too.

another candidate: Nev Campbell. the halfway nervous, sad eyebrows thing she does with everything.  hate it. 

pete

wow, doing impressions with words.  I digs.
what about jason biggs doing straight man, "what...what do you mean by that zany thing you just said/did?!"
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SiliasRuby

I saw this on HBO and I was as captiated as I could be for a superhero movie, not that I can really compare it to 'The Dark Knight' which I really loved. Edward Norton on many levels makes this film a cut above. Its not completely conventional and I give it that. Ah Hell- its wonderful.
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