Woody Allen

[Drenk]

In a recent interview, Ronan Farrow explains that believing the victim is meaningless. It's a thing that keep being repeated but I think we all mean the same thing by that: accusations should be taken seriously. In that interview he reminds that his father married his sister and that he believes his sister because he knows the case. So I'm still waiting for a New Yorker article from him about it; cause everything else isn't enough for me to be sure, to believe...But I don't want not to believe Dylan, you know. This story is a maelström of awfulness.

Even before Moses letter, though, the way Farrow treated her adopted children who aren't white was suspicious, and I have a hard time imagining why adopting children who are about to die is...something to do...but why not. Ronan Farrow grew up around dying kids and is now a successful workalchoolic. Others killed themselves.

[Alethia]

To clarify: I don't necessarily think Dylan is lying, she probably genuinely believes this. But that she's an outspoken advocate for survivors of abuse and all makes it seem odd that, one, for instance, she's never publicly acknowledged or supported the victims of her uncle's abuse, or two, that she would so callously dismiss Moses' claims of abuse as, "My brother is a troubled person." Like, Nope, uh-uh, he's crazy, don't listen to his perfectly credible, detailed, and nuanced account, just keep believing me. She was even quoted as saying  she didn't want this "to spoil my MeToo moment." And  all the celebrities mindlessly jumping onto the anti-Woody MeToo bandwagon strike me as having a purely narcissistic interest in it. They don't really care about Dylan, they only want to be perceived as being on the right, or popular, side. The blindly accepted narrative where emotion reigns while nuance and, you know, actual facts, get buried.

[Robyn]

@timheidecker

lol, his next film is literally called "A Rainy Day in New York". that could easily have been a made up title from this list.

[Sleepless]

This angers me: Woody Allen's 'Rainy Day,' Starring Timothée Chalamet and Selena Gomez, Shelved Indefinitely by Amazon

[Alethia]

Oh how fucking noble.

[Jeremy Blackman]

Great piece in the Hollywood Reporter today about Allen's 16-year-old mistress, who was apparently an inspiration for Manhattan. Very interesting.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/woody-allens-secret-teen-lover-manhattan-muse-speaks-1169782

She seems to look back fondly on their relationship in many ways, but there are some not-so-pleasant details (besides her age, of course):



'Even now, she holds herself largely responsible for remaining in the relationship as long as she did and for the frustration and sorrow that ultimately came with the liaison — one in which, by her description, she never held any agency.'

"Knowing he was a director, I didn't argue. I was coming from a place of devotion."

[On threesomes with Mia Farrow] "It wasn't until after it was done when I really had time to think of how twisted it was when we were together, and how I was little more than a plaything . . . While we were together, the whole thing was a game that was being operated solely by Woody so we never quite knew where we stood."

"I used to think this was a form of mother-father with the two of them. To me, that whole relationship was very Freudian: how I admired them, how he'd already broken me in, how I let that be all right."

[On the Soon-Yi relationship etc.] "He had groomed Mia, trained her, to put up with all of this. Now he had no barriers. It was total disrespect."

'Engelhardt doesn't suppose she's the sole inspiration for Tracy. She knows that actress Stacey Nelkin, who dated Allen while she was a 17-year-old student at Stuyvesant High School after meeting him during the making of Annie Hall, has stated she was his Manhattan muse. For Engelhardt's part, she presumes Tracy is a composite and that any number of Allen's presumed other real-life young paramours, including the two she met during threesomes, may have collectively stirred the director's imagination.'

[wilder]

His book was published today in a first run of 75,000 copies



"Apropos of Nothing" had ignited a backlash earlier this month, after which its original publisher, Hachette, canceled its plans to release the book. - New York Times

[Drenk]

I can't wait to read an article with all the embarrassing quotes from this memoir.

[Alexandro]

Just bought it.
Fuck cancel culture.

[Rooty Poots]

Just bought it.
Fuck cancel culture.

Such bravery

[Alexandro]

Just bought it.
Fuck cancel culture.

Such bravery

No, just taking an important stance for me. And without being an asshole about it.

[Alethia]

I'm going to read it, too, for sure.

[Drenk]

The issue about multi millionnaire cancelled men self-publishing their memoirs on a dime is that you can be sure they'll focus on Nothing instead of grooming and fucking underage girls with/or without their buddy Epstein.

[Jeremy Blackman]

After sort of being pro-cancel culture, I've come to realize there are a lot of problems with it (especially cancel campaigns). I think what finally convinced me was .

So I think "canceling" is a personal decision. Maybe (as I do) you believe you know enough about Woody Allen that you are not remotely interested in reading his book. Or maybe you have reasons for still seeking value in what he says. I get it.

[Drenk]

I don't believe Allen is cancelled. He's treated as a king in France. He can self-publish all his thoughts.The workers at Hachette made a strike, they're in their rights to be against publishing Allen, especially when the person has a contract based on his fame. We don't know the names of all the cancelled writers.