Rocky 6 Green lighted!!!!

Started by GodDamnImDaMan, January 10, 2003, 04:32:12 AM

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RegularKarate

Quote from: polkablues on December 10, 2006, 09:44:14 PM
Quote from: Ghostboy on December 10, 2006, 09:42:07 PM
Which ones should I skip?

2 through 5.

While it's hard to argue with that... 2 still keeps some excitement from the first and three has Mr. T. (but still really sucks).  I don't think you could really appreciate this one unless you realized how bad the films had gotten.

Kal

Quote from: Ghostboy on December 10, 2006, 09:42:07 PM
I guess it's time for me to go rent some Rocky movies. I've never seen any of them. Which ones should I skip?

Five is really the only one that SUCKS. For a Rocky fan like myself, I could still watch it more than once just because I watched the others many times as well. But if you miss Rocky 5 you can still go and watch the new one without missing something important.

Rocky and Rocky 2 are excellent, and they develop not only the Rocky character but everyone around him.

Rocky 3 is good because it shows him from a different angle (you will see), and 4 because of the whole cold war thing with Ivan Drago. Besides, that is the coolest fight ever.

So in my opinion get Rocky 1-4 and you'll be happy and excited for the new one.



Pubrick

under the paving stones.

Kal

Did anyone see the reviews? They are extremely good... I'm excited... hope it goes well opening week

matt35mm

This movie was pretty awesome.  There's a lot one could nitpick about, but I was swept up in it.

This movie's got heart, it's about heart... that's pretty much all it's got and all it needs to have.  It is relatively similar to the first movie because it was designed to be a bookend to the whole Rocky series.

Watching it with an audience of Rocky lovers is the best.  Everyone got into the fight at the end.  Save for that one fight and the montage, this movie is all talk.  And the talk is usually rambling, and the rambling is usually about heart, with the music backing it up, which would be lame if Stallone didn't totally believe in every word in put into the script.  That he clearly does is pretty amazing.

Stallone knows that people love the character of Rocky, and he knows what Rocky fans want to see.  I think he scored here by making a straightforward, simple, sweet movie that delivers what everyone wants to see without having to without having to ever do a lowest common denominator kind of thing.

The bit over the end credits shows that this movie was without a doubt made for the fans, and I think all the fans will love it.  Certainly the fans in my theater did.

RegularKarate

Yeah, I went to see it again last night and while the audience wasn't chanting like a few weeks ago, they were really into it.

I think I can confirm that this is the best since the second and as my hardcore Rocky-fan friend pointed out, if this had pulled back in a few places, it could have rivaled the second.

It gets me singing the theme like crazy.

MacGuffin

*SPOILERS*


Forever yo: Talia Shire's Adrian
By William Keck, USA TODAY

Adrian Pennino Balboa. Rest in peace.

She was ringside at every fight after the Philadelphia lovebirds met 30 years ago in 1976's Rocky. But yo, Adrian, she is no more.

In Rocky Balboa, the sixth and final chapter of the boxing saga (in theaters), the aging boxer reveals that "woman cancer" claimed her in 2002.

"In the original script (for Rocky Balboa), she was alive," reveals Stallone, 60. "But it just didn't have the same dramatic punch. I thought, 'What if she's gone?' That would cut Rocky's heart out and drop him down to ground zero."

Says Burt Young, 66, who returns as Adrian's brother, Paulie: "I was sort of part of that decision. There is a 16-year gap (from 1990's Rocky V), and we have to fill this character's history. Adrian's probably more prevalent by not being in this movie than if she was."

Stallone concedes that breaking the news to pal Talia Shire (Adrian) was not easy.

"She handled it with such dignity," he says. "I told her, 'Talia, you're the heart and soul of this movie, but you're just here in spirit, and that's what's going to drive the film. Your heart drove the first film.' It's what I call 'The Adrian Factor.' "

Stallone invited Shire, 60, to the film's Hollywood premiere Dec. 13, but the widowed actress was reticent, fearing the experience might prove too emotional. But she made a surprise appearance at the screening, and at the after-party she shared her thoughts and emotions.

Q: How did Sly prepare you for Adrian's death?

A: Sly showed me the script because he knew I'd lost my husband (producer Jack Schwartzman). When Jack was alive, he and I were producing movies, so I was doing much less acting and more development. I was aware of the possibility of Adrian (at one point) being in it and dying (on screen), but my being in the movie or not was not as interesting as how Sylvester was going to achieve this. Ultimately, I was wondering how in the world he was going to justify getting Rocky back into the ring.

Q: Does he?

A: Rocky is a folk hero. There was a great mythological aspect to the first one, and this film has that. I am so in his corner. Sly is so gifted, and the writing in this piece is courageous. It is Rocky's rebirth.

Q: Do you agree with Burt Young's feelings that Adrian is even more influential in death?

A: That's how many religions get going. Yes, the film has great regard for the process of mourning. Sly utilizes mourning to empower Rocky, and Adrian is made very mythical.

Q: Did your own spouse's death (in 1994) make this whole experience even more poignant for you?

A: In our culture, we like to say, "Get over it; move on." But you don't move on. Our past is who we are, and death is one of our experiences. I lost my husband a long time ago, but it's always yesterday. Watching Rocky wake up from a very lonely bed, searching for her at the grave, felt very familiar.

Q: There are so many sweet flashbacks of young Rocky and Adrian — at the pet store, on the skating rink. Do you remember those shoots?

A: I remember all of it. We didn't have a lot of money in the budget. We started shooting the skating in Philadelphia, but we couldn't afford to stay there, so we shot the rest in L.A., on an empty rink. And it turned out brilliant.

Q: Rocky takes another woman, Little Marie (a character introduced in the first Rocky), under his wing. Was it tough for you to watch their bond grow in this film?

A: Yes, it was. But it wasn't sexual and felt very appropriate. And I liked the actress (Geraldine Hughes) very much.

Q: Did you cry at any point during the film?

A: I lost a button on my blouse because I had an explosive moment in the boxing ring (scene), because I felt that fight was really about a man going up against time and love and courage. Adrian wasn't there, but she was very much within him.

Q: Have you dated since losing your husband?

A: Many years after, yes. But I never introduced anyone into the home. I waited for the cues of my children, who I think would love to give me away.
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MacGuffin

Call it Rocky Returns, because it felt like an upstart the way Superman did. It almost bypasses Parts 3, 4 and 5 (which took a turn to cheesy, though I still enjoy them for that) and gets away from what we've come to expect from a Rocky film (because of those middle films) and really gets back to basics and boiling it down to Rocky's roots and life the way the first two did, giving nice nods and touches to those films. This film shows why we've rooted for Rocky since the first film; he's a great character.

And I still say this is one of the best scores ever composed and get chills every time I hear it.
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