Sin City

[pete]

what the HELL happened here?  since when did everyone on xixax turned into a bunch of "I'm just your average guys"?  every other post in this thread becomes another person saying "it's just a MOVIE" holy crap no shit shylock shamrock homos the III?  it was just a MOVIE!?  I thought I was watching survellance camera footages from different convenience stores, I thought that was why everything was black and white!
if you find someone's interpretation of SinCity to be obnoxious, there are more intelligent ways to put it down than "I'm just a simple folk with a simple dream, I gots no capacity for your fancy educated big city doubletalk."
please, one andyk at a time.

[meatball]

Waaah, waaaah, waaah.

[Stefen]

hahahaahah

[Tryskadekafobia]

Caught 'Sin City' this past weekend and I really enjoyed it.  I had my trepidations about it, especially after seeing OUATIM (more like El Ritalin!) but I was quite surprised at RR's approach with the movie.  Loved the cinematography of it.  I'm not totally converted to film's obsolescence, but the HD works for making Frank Miller's artwork come to life.  The key scenes where the white bandages against a shadowy Marv, Becky's earrings and trinkets glowing as she walks down the alleyway, and the white silhouettes, especially the shot of Dwight as he slowly sinks into the tar pit.  That's my favorite shot in the movie!  And whoever said something about the coda looking weird with an actual hospital wing, I totally agree.  I reckon that scene was intentionally there as a bookend for the story, but it seems like it was an afterthought scene with the change to a real set.  As if the movie was done and then later someone says "Hey, we should put a scene at the end to bring it to a proper ending."  Speed of thought, eh?

One thing about the movie that got me at first was the constant narration.  I know that it's a heavy part of the comic, and there are other movies that use a lot of narrations (specifically Goodfellas and Casino), but it just seemed to be too much at the time.  But then the weirdest thing happened as I thought about the movie a bit.  Of course, it's heavily publicized how this movie isn't a revision of the source material, but rather a filmic interpretation of it.  And that has rubbed some people the wrong way as far as how it doesn't make for a quality film.  The thing that's really unique about Sin City, and makes it better than stuff like X-Men and Spiderman, is that even though it is a film it utilizes the comic language more than other comic based films.  Not just the images and editing, but the conventions of the comic book medium, which is something that Hulk attempted to do with the split screen shots.  Most people may be put off by the forward momentum of action that leads to a cliffhanger and an abrupt cut to black, but that's the comic language.  You read one issue, you're rapped up into the story, action, drama, conflict, and the hero is on the train tracks and the last page is to be continued.  Wait until next issue.  Whereas you have something like X-Men, it relies on filmic language and filmic language only.  Sure they are from a Marvel Comic, but it's more like Marvel characters in a movie instead of seeing the Uncanny X-Men onscreen as though you're reading a story arc.  

Another bit that goes with that comic book language is where Marv is ready to extract revenge on Kevin and Cardinal Rourk and he goes through his checklist of items. That little series of shots against a black background just says "comic book."   Perhaps where it fails in the eyes of some viewers is because it so readily uses comic book conventions.  Short from actually seeing the screeching sound of the cars as they whiz.  And after giving that consideration as to how RR and FM were telling the story, then I realized that the voiceover narration wasn't really as annoying as I thought.  It was only annoying because I was thinking of it in the filmic sense and the filmic sense only.  

What I like about this movie more than anything is that it is an experiment.  Instead of just aping characters and settings, it goes so far as to use the pacing of comics on the page as the way to tell the story.  Whether or not it succeeds is up to each individual viewer, but it's that facet of the movie as a whole that elicits the most reaction from the film.

[Pubrick]

it is clear to me, this movie has made everyone an idiot.
and this page has made pete a god among men.

also meatball appears to hav been babalitized..

[pete]

Waaah, waaaah, waaah.

seriously, have you said anything on this board that hasn't gotten you humiliatingly owned yet?

[meatball]

Waaah, waaaah, waaah.

seriously, have you said anything on this board that hasn't gotten you humiliatingly owned yet?

seriously, do you think i care what happens on this board?

you keep 'owning' on message boards, pete. stand up and be proud, my brother.

hah.

[pete]

you care enough to keep on trying to "own" people every couple of days.  keep on pretending like you don't care though, you're only two decades behind on that one.

[Pubrick]

seriously, do you think i care what happens on this board?

so leave.

[cine]

yeah, put your money where your mouth is.. if you really dont care, then take off and find a new place to troll.

[Kal]

the problem in this board is when people like you (pete) believe they have so brilliant things to say about a film... and its all just bullshit

just let everyone say whatever they want to say and shut the fuck up

[Raikus]

I'd like to formally jump in the fray and declare that I hate everyone. Equally, but with hatred that could burn the lips off of babies.

[Pubrick]

just let everyone say whatever they want to say and shut the fuck up

yet ur telling pete what to say. hmm.

[Pas]

what the HELL happened here?  since when did everyone on xixax turned into a bunch of "I'm just your average guys"?  every other post in this thread becomes another person saying "it's just a MOVIE" holy crap no shit shylock shamrock homos the III?  it was just a MOVIE!?  I thought I was watching survellance camera footages from different convenience stores, I thought that was why everything was black and white!
if you find someone's interpretation of SinCity to be obnoxious, there are more intelligent ways to put it down than "I'm just a simple folk with a simple dream, I gots no capacity for your fancy educated big city doubletalk."
please, one andyk at a time.

I'm not saying it's just a movie, I'm saying it's just a movie aiming entertainment. This is not Death in Venice. The point of the movie is to be cool, or I don't get art at all.

It's all good to discuss "educated big city doubletalk" sometimes, but I just don't think this is the movie to do so.

[Pastor Parsley]

I rarely come to these boards anymore.  I get tired of scanning through all the adolescent bickering to find a few posts that pertain to the thread topic.  That's what PM's are for!  The rest of us don't want to follow every play by play of your petty arguments.