Who are you favorite movie heroes?

Started by El Duderino, March 14, 2004, 12:11:10 PM

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grand theft sparrow

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Damn! I wish I had thought of that one.

soixante

How about heroines:

Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs
Sandra Bullock in Miss Congeniality
Julia Roberts in Erin Brockovich
Jennifer Lopez in Out of Sight
Carrie Fisher in Star Wars
Cameron Diaz in Charlie's Angels
Uma Thurman in Kill Bill
Genevieve Bujold in Tightrope
Zoe Tamerlis in Ms. 45
Music is your best entertainment value.

El Duderino

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well done, cinephile, well done
Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

El Duderino

Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

godardian

My take on identification/idealization/wish-fulfillment in cinema thankfully saves me from perceiving movie characters as actually "heroic" (or "villanous"), though I sometimes see the creators of the characters and their situations as personal heroes.

There's always "Celluloid Heroes" by The Kinks, which would make Ray Davies my movie hero...

There are heroic lines from decidedly non-heroic or anti-heroic characters. Like Toyah Wilcox's in Jubilee: "The world is no longer interested in heroes. Sooo sad... we now know too much about them, don't we?"
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

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El Duderino

Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

Pas

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Quote from: SoNowThen

Damn! I wish I had thought of that one.

Is that the guy in Alphaville ?

SoNowThen

Lemmy Caution, yeah.


In all seriousness, I think these are my top two heroes in movies. Real people heroes...

Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

El Duderino

i was gonna say john c. reilly, but i wasnt sure if he qualified as a hero
Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

godardian

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I reserve "hero" status for those who create fictions (authors, in this case filmmakers) rather than their fictional creations. It's much less futile. The gratification (or not) of "liking" or "disliking" specific characters for their attributes/actions, as opposed to their construction as characters, the performance of the actor inhabiting that character, and the character's rightness and integration within the context of the whole piece, is a limitation I freed myself of a long, long time ago... and ridding myself of that has greatly expanded my cinematic horizons and enjoyment. Also works for novels, plays, television... anything fictional, constructed.
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

Stay informed on protecting your freedom of speech and civil rights.

El Duderino

gotcha....sorry, i didnt mean to sound rude or like a dumbass
Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

godardian

Quote from: El Duderinogotcha....sorry, i didnt mean to sound rude or like a dumbass

No prob... I've been known to be a tad, erm, "academic" at times... I plan to be the next Susan Sontag someday, so I gotta practice where I can.  :wink:  While I'm on that, I should remind myself to wipe "gotta" from my vocabulary...
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

Stay informed on protecting your freedom of speech and civil rights.

MacGuffin

"Don't think about making art, just get it done. Let everyone else decide if it's good or bad, whether they love it or hate it. While they are deciding, make even more art." - Andy Warhol


Skeleton FilmWorks

Kal

Neo (The Matrix Trilogy)
Maximus (Gladiator)
Superman (Superman)
Batman (Batman)
Austin Powers (Austin Powers 1,2,3)
Samwise and Aragon (Lord of the Rings Trilogy)
Flash Gordon (Flash Gordon)
Jonhny Utah (Point Break)

Pas

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Quote from: El Duderinowhat?

I reserve "hero" status for those who create fictions (authors, in this case filmmakers) rather than their fictional creations. It's much less futile. The gratification (or not) of "liking" or "disliking" specific characters for their attributes/actions, as opposed to their construction as characters, the performance of the actor inhabiting that character, and the character's rightness and integration within the context of the whole piece, is a limitation I freed myself of a long, long time ago... and ridding myself of that has greatly expanded my cinematic horizons and enjoyment. Also works for novels, plays, television... anything fictional, constructed.

he·ro  Pronunciation Key  (hîrô)
n. pl. he·roes
1-In mythology and legend, a man, often of divine ancestry, who is endowed with great courage and strength, celebrated for his bold exploits, and favored by the gods.
2-A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life: soldiers and nurses who were heroes in an unpopular war.
3-A person noted for special achievement in a particular field: the heroes of medicine. See Synonyms at celebrity.
4-The principal male character in a novel, poem, or dramatic presentation.

You are freed from 3 of that 4 definitions of what a hero is, one being what we are talking about here, good for you !