The Cooler

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nix

#15
January 18, 2004, 08:38:16 AM
All in all I think the movie worked really well. Most of the big plot twists were awfully predictable, and Shaun Hatsoy's performance was pretty over the top, but Macy and Baldwin were fucking fantastic. I don't think the subplots, as someone said earlier, were all there to simply provide exposistion about Macy's past. Much of it was for the sake of Baldwin's character, and his hatred for the rise of disneyland vegas. It's a great character piece, and the cinematography was great. Fuji is great for greens a purples.
"Sex relieves stress, love causes it."
-Woddy Allen

cine

#16
January 22, 2004, 04:39:15 PM
Lion's Gate Home Entertainment will release the critically acclaimed drama The Cooler on April 27th. This Oscar hopeful, which stars Alec Baldwin, Ron Livingston and SAG nominee Maria Bello, comes complete with an anamorphic widescreen transfer and Dolby Digital 5.1 surround track, plus two cast and crew audio commentaries, the "Anatomy of a Scene" TV special, deleted scenes plus an alternate ending in script form, storyboards, a short film by director Wayne Kramer, and trailers. Retail will be $26.95.

Chest Rockwell

#17
January 22, 2004, 06:08:15 PM
I saw it Saturday and I liked it. I loved how "realistic" it was, in the use of sex and violence. I did feel some nostalgia during that one scene when the crapper (crap-shooter) was insulting the old man....except it obviously wasn't quite as good as the scene in Hard Eight. Anyway, for a first film, I though it was very nice....perhaps that Wayne Kramer guy will be an interesting film-maker later on.

ono

#18
January 28, 2004, 09:05:21 PM
Saw this film tonight.  I had some problems with it, so I'm torn in ways.  At times I thought it was incredibly cheesy, and others I felt it may know it's cheesy and be poking fun of itself.  I wasn't quite sure, and the ending didn't help any as I wasn't sure if it was sincere or not.  The dialogue didn't help either, as it could've been either "satirical" bad or "just plain" bad.  I loved the noirish feel of the film, and I loved the setting.  I love films set in casinos, period.  The score was amazing.  (By the way, does anyone know the name of the song playing over the ending credits?)  Agreed about the Hard Eight rip-off, and the whole sexuality thing.  It was refreshing albeit gratuitous.  A generous ***½ (8/10).  The dialogue brings the film down, but Macy's and Baldwin's performances bring it right back up again.  And wasn't it the weirdest thing seeing Paul Sorvino and Joey Fatone in this film?

pete

#19
January 28, 2004, 09:06:59 PM
but hard eight was very very much a bob le flemeur ripoff.
"Tragedy is a close-up; comedy, a long shot."
- Buster Keaton

Weak2ndAct

#20
January 28, 2004, 09:09:16 PM
Quote from: petebut hard eight was very very much a bob le flemeur ripoff.
Mixed with a whole lotta 'Atlantic City.'

MacGuffin

#21
January 28, 2004, 10:07:51 PM
Quote from: petebut hard eight was very very much a bob le flemeur ripoff.

No, PTA is respected, so it's an homage.
"Don't think about making art, just get it done. Let everyone else decide if it's good or bad, whether they love it or hate it. While they are deciding, make even more art." - Andy Warhol


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modage

#22
January 28, 2004, 10:19:34 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: petebut hard eight was very very much a bob le flemeur ripoff.

No, PTA is respected, so it's an homage.
haha, i was so getting to that...
Christopher Nolan's directive was clear to everyone in the cast and crew: Use CGI only as a last resort.

pete

#23
January 28, 2004, 10:22:05 PM
"PTA respected."
"Tragedy is a close-up; comedy, a long shot."
- Buster Keaton

Chest Rockwell

#24
January 29, 2004, 06:20:17 PM
It's funny because it's true

SoNowThen

#25
February 02, 2004, 09:12:05 AM
The Hard Eight rip-off scene would have been brilliant (and had a better payoff than Hard Eight), except for the fact that they had joe-no-name terrible fucking actor instead of brilliant PSH. But at any rate...

Good movie. Really good first film. If PTA's career was any indication, Kramer could make a brilliant second film. Baldwin's speech about Vegas as a high priced call girl who turned into a fat whore had me laughing out loud. But the dialogue of the year was spoken by Ron Livingston:

"The cocktail waitresses could pop a button or two. Me personally, I wouldn't hire anything less than a c-cup."

I agree about the son being a shit actor as well. Oh, but Estella Warren was great. Y'know what they say, everyone can play themselves, and she did a great coke slut. That "kicking the baby" scene was tops, imo. You've never seen horror on audience's faces like this, until they did the reveal. It was classic.

It must be the sign of a good director, to have such a contrived and goofy ending, and yet make it work so perfectly because of previous set-ups.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

MacGuffin

#26
March 18, 2004, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: CinephileLion's Gate Home Entertainment will release the critically acclaimed drama The Cooler on April 27th. This Oscar hopeful, which stars Alec Baldwin, Ron Livingston and SAG nominee Maria Bello, comes complete with an anamorphic widescreen transfer and Dolby Digital 5.1 surround track, plus two cast and crew audio commentaries, the "Anatomy of a Scene" TV special, deleted scenes plus an alternate ending in script form, storyboards, a short film by director Wayne Kramer, and trailers. Retail will be $26.95.

Original DVD Cover Art:


New Revised Cover Art:
"Don't think about making art, just get it done. Let everyone else decide if it's good or bad, whether they love it or hate it. While they are deciding, make even more art." - Andy Warhol


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modage

#27
March 18, 2004, 11:05:55 AM
hey, slightly less bad!
Christopher Nolan's directive was clear to everyone in the cast and crew: Use CGI only as a last resort.

SoNowThen

#28
March 18, 2004, 11:09:44 AM
I'm looking forward to this April purchase.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

NEON MERCURY

#29
March 18, 2004, 01:30:00 PM
they should have gone with the cover of macy's face made into the NEON lights....(theatrical poster. i think)
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