eternal sunshine de l'mind spotless..

Started by Satcho9, February 03, 2003, 10:15:53 PM

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cowboykurtis

Quote from: mutinycoAlso, I never bought Joel and Clementine's romance. I thought there was no chemistry between Carrey and Winslet (miscast). And considering that's the point of the drama.

agreed
...your excuses are your own...

Gold Trumpet

Quote from: Pubrickur reviews are so mechanical and dull that to argue with them would only bring on more of the thing that ppl hate about them.

Fuck! I know. I have a story to explain this....See, for the last 2 years, I've been limited to in my learning to just professional critiques and books with names longer than most sentences. I've kinda adapated that style of writing knowing I didn't have the language chops to back it up. I use to go to this one website where I used make sick jokes in the dryest humor and people would get offended. It was with this language and I liked the responce. I've brought it over and over the last year, have honed it to writing better sentence. (I think) Its weird because here I really am into just the movies and am only now interacting with people around me who are also into films, thus dropping my approach of talk. I just need to apply it here. It'll take time but i'm going into this without ego and admitting most faults so bare with me.

©brad

hey, can we see a picture of you? cuz i really think if i had a picture to go along with ur, um, prose or whatever you want to call it, it might help.

it's really not that bad. i mean, if you break down each individual sentence (or fragments, i should say) they make sense. it's just as a whole, when you put them together, they go in so many different directions that after about 7 seconds of reading them this happens: :brickwall: - its kinda like when you throw a rubber bouncy ball (how fun are those!) in a shower and close the door real quick like- you know how the ball will bounce all over the place randomly/unpredictably? that's what your sentences do.

Gold Trumpet

Quote from: C:\BRADhey, can we see a picture of you? cuz i really think if i had a picture to go along with ur, um, prose or whatever you want to call it, it might help.

it's really not that bad. i mean, if you break down each individual sentence (or fragments, i should say) they make sense. it's just as a whole, when you put them together, they go in so many different directions that after about 7 seconds of reading them this.

Again, understood. Also, what do you think I look like? If you got the pic, show it. I'll tell you how far off base you are. I remember Godardian imagined me as some french actor before.

SHAFTR

GT is one of the small handful of people on here who actually write reviews (I'm not saying I am one of them, but I'd like to be).  I rarely agree with GT on his opinions on films but I always see what he is saying.  I'd rather review a negative review with reasons than a positive review without.
"Talking shit about a pretty sunset
Blanketing opinions that i'll probably regret soon"

Ernie

QuoteIt really is painful/annoying/infuriating seeing someone dedicate so much time to movie discussion but seem to hate most of them so much.  And these are all quality movies that he's hating on.

Yea, this is really the only thing I don't like about the whole critiquing thing. I could care less about the spelling errors and whatnot cause god knows I'm no advocate of such things myself but it just starts to seem like overkill when I actually have to struggle to find a good review by somebody (like GT in this case). I mean, it gets to a point where it seems to me like you should just stop seeing movies altogether GT, as ridiculous as it sounds. I mean, I would have to if I were in a situation like yours man....disliking so many of the movies that I see, even the ones I look forward to. Me personally, I just wouldn't be able to take that kind of disappointment with such frequency. It just seems like you never really love a movie. There's a bunch you'll like, sure, but you seem to have more hate for the bad ones and less love for the good ones. That's just so depressing to me. All this is not to say I think writing sucks though, I don't mind your reviews all that much at all and I do read them in their entirety, even when I disagree as immediately as three-four words into the first sentence.

Quote from: mutinycoI haven't been a fan of Kaufman's till now. I usually find his work to be a bunch of gimmicks that don't really develop in any significant way.

Yea but now your talking about BJM and "Adaptation" all of a sudden. Just stick with "Sunshine", it's the first movie he's made where his intention above all was seemingly to entertain rather than to impress.

QuoteBut like I said, Sunshine will probably get better with repeat viewings.

There we go. Now your on the right track.

©brad

Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Quote from: C:\BRADhey, can we see a picture of you? cuz i really think if i had a picture to go along with ur, um, prose or whatever you want to call it, it might help.

it's really not that bad. i mean, if you break down each individual sentence (or fragments, i should say) they make sense. it's just as a whole, when you put them together, they go in so many different directions that after about 7 seconds of reading them this.

Again, understood. Also, what do you think I look like? If you got the pic, show it. I'll tell you how far off base you are. I remember Godardian imagined me as some french actor before.

um, if i had to guess, i'd say a more reserved, toned down version of



with the glasses, but w/o the hyper-enthusiastic dorkiness and blatant homosexuality.

and beaman and everyone else- enough w/ this negative stuff. really, who cares anymore. gt's pessimism balances out the overly-energetic oh-my-god-freak-out-fanboy babble that continues to dominate the board.

mutinyco

Nah. SHAFTR's avatar is probably more accurate...
"I believe in this, and it's been tested by research: he who fucks nuns will later join the church."

-St. Joe

SHAFTR

Quote from: mutinycoNah. SHAFTR's avatar is probably more accurate...

If GT was Grig from The Last Starfighter....no one would dislike him or his opinions.
"Talking shit about a pretty sunset
Blanketing opinions that i'll probably regret soon"

panthera_tigris

HAHAHAHA...andy dick...C:\BRAD, that's hilarious....but way off base, trust me, i know. I said a bunch of other crap in this message previously...don't mind me...i'm a woman...hormones run rampant in me and make me all CooCoo...hehehe
The quality of mercy is not strain'd,
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath: it is twice blest;
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes:
'Tis mightiest in the mightiest: it becomes
The throned monarch better than his crown;
His sceptre shows the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty,
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;
But mercy is above this sceptred sway;
It is enthroned in the hearts of kings,
It is an attribute to God himself;
And earthly power doth then show likest God's
When mercy seasons justice.
- Merchant of Venice: Act 4

Pubrick

this GT thing is no big deal, if u bothered reading the thread, or know anything about GT's history here, u'd know we like him very much.. so much so that we didn't wanna ban him even when he requested it.

so stop being a troll or get the fuck off this site. thanks.
under the paving stones.

panthera_tigris

well, good to know...i like the troll comment...fitting, cuz i'm short
The quality of mercy is not strain'd,
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath: it is twice blest;
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes:
'Tis mightiest in the mightiest: it becomes
The throned monarch better than his crown;
His sceptre shows the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty,
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;
But mercy is above this sceptred sway;
It is enthroned in the hearts of kings,
It is an attribute to God himself;
And earthly power doth then show likest God's
When mercy seasons justice.
- Merchant of Venice: Act 4

NEON MERCURY

Quote from: The Gold TrumpetThrough out the film Kirsten Dunst obviously had little value to the overall story so I kept thinking her a hot young actress who just wanted to find some way into the new Charlie Kaufman movie. When she was given a *spoiler* dramatic revelation at the end, Kaufman was hitting his usual sour note of desperation to go dramatic beyond what was required. Ruffalo went the entire way of playing a character with almost nothing to do. Wood had importance I guess, but he seemed to be playing a tool character there just to interfere in the main romance. Wilkonson had the chops to play the doctor, but his character outline was too limited to give him his end dramatic moments. The film should have stuck to a portrait on the main two characters.

gt,  what up??..........i for  agree w/ the point shere that you made......the rest of the supporting cast wasn't used right (th efilm should have used them more...not as much as gondry did for the theatrical cut)....as i said before this film needed to be fleshed out more.....and i especoially agree about anything negative w/ dunst......man she's whack.......as for your posts i enjoy them..your fresh  man....keep it up...... :yabbse-thumbup:

tpfkabi

a few of you have said that Kirsten's role was insignificant, but remember............she is who sent the letters out, so it is she who started the story going........also, in the original screenplay there was a little more depth to her character........

that out of the way, i love the film. i was smiling most of the time. i laughed the hardest when mom walked in while he was wanking.......and i found Kate the hottest when Carrey was a kid and she in the 70's dress...........i just don't understand this backlash on Charlie. .....i think anyone with original idea and/or acclaim.....well......people are just going to hate them just because of that..........so i say to you.........go on and hate all you want and i will be made happy by Charlie's stories.

AND I'M FUCKING TIRED OF EVERYONE ACTING LIKE HUMAN NATURE WAS NEVER MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am Torgo. I take care of the place while the Master is away.

©brad