I now listened to the one with van Sant and loved it as well. Bret may talk a little too much on that one, but this is how interviews should work. He asks interesting, personal and sometimes tough questions without any sense of condescending or exploring but always trying to understand his subjects. I've also started listening to him with Kevin Smith and now it's Smith who talks a lot but Ellis knows exactly where to take him on that discussion.
I'm a big fan of his novels and since I don't use Twitter, I never got caught on his rants that much. Whatever I read from Twitter, it was usually an angry transcription from someone who got really angry at his rants which I, I must confess, found hilarious, mostly because I never took either Twitter or Ellis's public persona very seriously. Now I think he's found a great medium to communicate and I'm all on board. I also think everyone should listen to the introduction of the first part of the Kevin Smith conversation and, if you want, Smith's answer to it. Very good, interesting stuff from people who the general public opinion seems to look down to as of late.