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Reply #45 on: February 14, 2021, 05:00:19 PM
^ I did order that documentary, which completed my order.

Some of this has been previously stated in other ways: a thing is serious movie goers don't treat the horror genre seriously. so the horror genre is kind of a safe place for the tasteless. except the horror fans don't take adult movies seriously. and although as an art house person I'm used to liking shunned movies, I've never encountered such a shunned category of movies. outside of older people who saw them in theaters, younger people don't know what to do with them, and like in most outsider situations that means they make fun of them. just again and again and again I've encountered people making fun of pornos from a theoretical perspective. they have perhaps seen a couple but have now switched into generalizing. which, to be fair, is perhaps what it is like with me and comic book movies. but there's no such thing as seeing a couple and understanding them all. what can also happen with older people who were around in the day of the golden age of porn is they already have the conversational baggage, and this is a thing about being younger: you don't carry the baggage of the older generation. when I hear 21st century people talk about 90s music they're making like insane choices from my perspective. they're doing it all wrong. but they're not doing it all wrong they're doing it all their own way

I talked about this with a friend recently: I don't do the thing where I watch the movie 9 times. I don't watch the same movie over and over, I watch a lot of movies. seeing movies new to me retains the thrill of initial encounter, because it's all initial encounters. so here was a genre untapped to me, since also I lived through but did not live within vhs days. my understanding is that in fact many of these movies are available for free to stream on porn sites. that was how I watched the beginning of Frat House, which I suspected I wouldn't like, and I didn't, although tbh I found its humor superior to Animal House. I like its direct route but still the entire atmosphere isn't for me

so it's not the sex I want it's the atmosphere. it's the orchestration, the organization, the implementation that magnetizes me. and it's simply a whole other world, because part of the atmosphere is that spontaneous sex is possible during any moment. I must confess that in this current moment the idea of watching a movie without spontaneous sex seems, like, I don't get it. although I don't think there's expansive territory for me in this genre, I do want to explore its possibilities. the shape of adult movies.

and perhaps it does not engage the core of my soul, but it does give my soul a kick. it does serve as a false refuge, an escape from the reality of myself, I engage in escapism through its extremities, and the adult genre allows me to witness vivid human extremities. there are cross genre adult movies, action and horror possibilities, but it's more like its own medium, such as any anime is an anime however it is. and it just is true that my appreciation for it kind of tarnishes my reputation, depending on who I'm speaking with, which again, as an art house person I'm familiar with this situation, but all the immediate deep cuts that come from adult movies are new to me in this exact way. it fascinates me and throws gas in my fire, because liking the unliked and ignored is a total thing of mine. I believe in all of life and want none of it ignored, I am a different type of person in my own way, this all sounds exactly like me, and this is the most fun movie thing that's happened to me since martial arts movies I think


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Reply #46 on: February 22, 2021, 02:04:38 AM
first at my friends' I showed some clips from Storefront Theatre: All Night at the PO-NO and that went well. we discussed what we were seeing and I was describing why I thought this was a good idea, and my friends were able to vibe it. they're a couple. there were interesting insights about appreciable qualities

then at my other friends' well his wife is like not having what I'm up to. she says sex is to advance a story or it's gratuitous. so she's not looking at sex as part of the story and I had brought along A Labor of Love because I thought, okay it's a documentary, this will work. she didn't believe it was a documentary I realized after it began and she said "oh it is a documentary" but still she left early because, well, the women making this movie are not happy to be making this movie. so my quest toward normalization seemed absurd. even the director doesn't want to be making the movie the documentary is about making. the director is Iranian and his dream is to make movies and he was given the funds to make a movie on the condition that sex was included. he said he didn't want to make another sex film and he never did. so it's a great documentary but the inner turmoil associated with making the movie assisted the perspective that I am insane


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Reply #47 on: February 23, 2021, 03:15:08 PM
it's going to be a minute until I can watch it but it's singing to me, Fleshpot



it's definitely an adult movie, as in there are sex scenes, and it's such a good movie. genuinely. some City of Night-level of insight into human behavior that can simply only be gained through experience





frankly, it raises the bar. I have Blue Money and Skin Flicks ahead of me but if this turns into the best adult movie I ever see it does legitimize the entire genre. it's achingly human from a perspective only possible in a major city. the whole time the actors sound like they're going off the script but honestly the script is good except for the ending, which is not a good ending and why the movie might be bettered. but the bad ending does not ruin the overall shape of the movie. very glad I was able to see it


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Reply #48 on: February 25, 2021, 11:09:49 PM
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If you're trying to get "her" (per your OP) to watch the adult films, that is territory I have less confidence in traveling. However, I've shown my shelved classic porno collection to straight and bi women, straight and gay men, and trans women. Here's what I've noticed: women are far more comfortable with sexual entertainment, in the sense that they'll watch it for what it is. Most straight men who grew up with the porn landscape of the last 30 years don't understand adult entertainment as anything other than gonzo porn: a product that's usually shameless about appealing to straight men's sexual fantasies, which results in private pleasure. Women seem capable of entertaining adult films without the presumption that they will want to masturbate while watching it. They'll watch it with their lady friends. FWIW, I've shown In the Realm of the Senses to more women than men (3 to 1 as of now).

Here's a line for selling these pornos: "Babe, sometimes a really popular porno would be the highest grossing movie for the weekend in a particular city. Depending on the time, day, and location, a porn theater could be full of bored friends, curious girls testing their mettle, couples getting in the mood, dates treating a new movie phenomenon as a mode of discourse for new sexual politics (it was the 1970s when these movies were the most popular), and art elitists with enough status anxiety to brave a grindhouse when the press made it seem cool. It wasn't only about wearing a trenchcoat to vacant screenings for, you know...Porn as a theatrical and narrative phenomenon is much different than the direct-to-home-video/streaming standard we've grown used to."


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Reply #49 on: February 26, 2021, 01:33:51 PM


it's a well-composed movie. it's the story of Chaka Khan being betrayed by his Sultana, which fucks up his sense of trust so heavily that afterward he decides that instead of beginning a new relationship he'll kill women from his harem after sleeping with them. now, the way Chaka Khan decides who he'll sleep with is his harem keeper brings him a basket filled with tiles, and each tile has a name. after the name Scheherezade is drawn, she is prepared. and she knows what is about to happen but you see, Scheherezade decides not to be dead in the morning. and she is clever, she's been around the world (from China to the Mediterranean Sea), and her imagination is endless. what she does is each night she starts to tell Chaka Khan a story with a cliff hanger, and she asks for an afternoon to remember the rest of the story she'll finish the next evening. she tells the story of Aladdin, Sinbad, and Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves, although those particular stories aren't in the movie (sexy stories are in the movie, obviously)

the thousand and one erotic nights come from her forestalling her execution through storytelling. such a fan of this movie and its tonal commitment. its dedication to its own framework. the sequel is also included and usually I skip the bonus movie but the first was so good I have to watch the sequel


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Reply #50 on: February 27, 2021, 08:09:35 PM
I don't want to describe Part II because I didn't like it. I should have known better but I became confused because Part I is that good


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Reply #51 on: February 28, 2021, 02:24:34 PM


it's not pornography, it's a movie about making pornography. on the cusp of Nixon's reelection and of course Nixon is trying to shut down the adult movie business, sounds just like Nixon. this is the story of a hot af French quebecian who just wants to score big loads of money and finish building his boat, to leave everything behind. but the government won't let him. because the government is seriously rude. he's a father and his baby's momma has a side story about her own perspective. this hot af French quebecian with gorgeous pouty lips is also the director, it's his story, and this whole thing is about him

it's so good. VS compared it to Cassevetes but nah. it's Jacques Demy's Model Shop but about porn instead of depression


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Reply #52 on: March 01, 2021, 09:23:31 PM


these are two bona fide genre movies that are also adult movies, both written/directed by Scott McHaley, and these are the only two movies he ever wrote/directed, which makes him more impressive from my perspective

this was my first dip into the Peekarama series and great, now the bar is raised for that entire series

I began with Fast Cars Fast Women because it's at the top of the menu screen, although in fact this one was made after Starship Eros.

okay: what an impressive and authentic portrayal of the reality of a race car driver in the south. what total immersion into a southern lifestyle in general: early on you see the race track and I thought, nice, but by the time we're in a bar with a live county-western band performing I'm becoming impressed. although a potential sibling to this movie would be The Legend of Billie Jean, the bar scene is Nashville-level. it feels like I'm there in the bar, hearing a live band. still an adult movie, however, a slight detail is a line in the song, "Slide on in, darling I'm so what you're looking for," and although in a lyrical context you could justify that the singer is referring to a hug, I mean.

this is a fully formed movie, although yes it's an adult movie. that combination is assuredly accomplished. so there's a rivalry between the owners of race cars, one female and one male, and their rivalry is spiked by the fact that the evil male-owner also runs a company in financial trouble. he wants to win prize movie to pay off his debts. and he's so evil he tampered with a car that crashed and killed its driver. the star of this movie is a woman who arrives to replace that dead team member. she will drive the same car that killed its previous driver. wow. the stakes are high. damn. so what transpires is a deft amalgamation of this narrative and sex scenes

you go from the evil male-owner visiting the holy female-owner, and the female-owner won't put out to him of course (she sleeps with her pit boss), so she masturbates while the evil male-owner watches. and next you witness thugs in cheap winter masks attack the pit boss. followed by a female-with-female shower scene. this is how the movie progresses

the evil male-owner wants to overpower the holy female-owner, but he is way, way underestimating her strength and ability. she confronts him in a pit and tells him, "Stay away from my wheels. Stay away from my girls. If you donít Iím going to chop your balls off," and we hear the click of her heels as she walks away.

a main goon on the evil side is Ron Jeremy, back when he was young and possessed beauty imo. you see him doing goon stuff and you see a car crash. what, appropriate for this movie, doesn't this movie offer me? it absolutely works car fetishization into the movie at a John Frankenheimer's Grand Prix-level. you see closeups of car stuff before the final race, when everything is on the line

the movie ends with a car race and it's pretty much a perfect movie. the disc offers soft core outtakes taken from sex scenes. somehow: all of this is real. this is reality. the movie trailer is another special future

Starship Eros begins with a note from the producer as a special feature. he says Scott McHaley wrote the script and showed it to him, and the producer was like, yeah for sure. it was financed through stunt men. the producer said he directed the sex scenes because McHaley was so fresh. but you're wrong if you think McHaley didn't make his own significant contributions: he made the special effects in his garage, and I assume he directed the scenes of space chases and space battles

the producer said it was a two-day shoot and I did wonder how they did that. the first shot is a star-filled sky from the perspective of traveling thorough space. the year's title card appears: we're in the future of 1995

how they accomplished the two-day shoot is this movie has the narrative speed of porn, yet also you are in space. the first ten minutes establish who the commander is: we're introduced to her through a hot tub scene, followed by self-pleasure, followed by intercourse.

then we're in space with the special effects: we can see a space station, and a spaceship flying through space. a pilot arrives at a space station and a woman greets her, tells her, "Beverly here, everyone calls me Bev." this ship is women-only. though there is a sex robot named Quasar, played by a man wearing a C=3PO mask. you see his hands and later his penis. he says he's human from the waist down although like I said you also see his human hands. he has on a robot vest though. with the mask and vest he looks robot, count it

when the captain meets the commander you learn about their spaceship lifestyle: "Sorry to interrupt commander, I didnít know this was pleasure period." the commander had been self-pleasuring. but the commander isn't upset at all and says, "Strip and do me." these crew members are super nice to each other, real friends

while learning about Quasar, the pilot encounters the situation in which Quasar's battery loses power and must be replaced. good detail, space sex movie.

when they're called into mission 28 min into the 67 min movie, it does feel like one shooting day has transpired. it's miraculous how little happens in this movie that also feels like a complete-enough movie. called into a mission, suddenly the sex actors are controlling a spaceship. the mission pertains the daring Amazoids who are up to extreme mischief. Starship Eros is in pursuit

"Think weíll see any action, commander?"

"It isnít very likely we wonít."

In order to change into combat gear, the pilot leaves the room, although while changing she sees Quasar, and she becomes distracted, for which she's later punished. now it must be mentioned that sex scenes are intercut with scenes of spaceflight. damn Scott McHaley, you really know how to treat a movie. Fast Cars Fast Women fetishizes cars and this movie fetishizes sci-fi. the pilot's punishment for becoming distracted by Quasar during a mission is the wildest punishment I've ever witnessed in a movie, involving a laser gun and manual stimulation. this punishment makes the pilot sweat

again, very little has happened, but enough to call it a movie, and plenty to call it adult. 55min into the movie the enemy captain is captured. by this point Bev is naked. accomplishments at the end of the movie are Quasar comes on his own (without programming, his first time) and the enemy captain is converted into a team member


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Reply #53 on: March 03, 2021, 08:40:21 PM
this is just a thing I'm mentioning now that I'm so accustomed to watching adult movies and everything: before beginning this endeavor I suspected that I would find myself fast forwarding through sex scenes that went on for too long, but that has not been the case. I do sometimes bring out my phone or just like stare away thinking about something else during a long sex scene that isn't offering me much, but because I am so plugged into the rhythms of the movie I can't fast forward it. it seems like betraying the movie to fast forward it, even if I'm not watching it, because some weird part of me needs to experience the full rhythm of the movie. it'd feel like not experiencing the movie if I fast forwarded it

that's kind of odd but that's been the case. I don't know. I get in sync with the movie I'm watching, like two people get in sync during sex I guess