Licorice Pizza - Speculation & General Reactions

Tdog · August 25, 2021, 12:11:17 PM

Quote from: wilberfan on August 25, 2021, 12:09:49 PM
Comparing the music vids with the features kinda seems like apples and golf balls.

"Apples and Golfballs", that sounds like the name of a PTA short.

PaulElroy35 · August 25, 2021, 12:29:52 PM

People say this could have a problem up against Big blockbuster films however they arent going to impact this in a bad way though. Theres always big movies being in cinemas so doesnt really matter when its released.

Any problems is with just the lack of marketing. Because non fanboys who will be up for watching it , right now dont have much if any knowledge about soggy bottom.

Even if Paul didnt want to put out a trailer just yet, conformation on the title a poster and a cast list would have got more people talking if he put that out now.

Right now im just not going to get hyped for the chance of seeing any marketing just yet but just hope we do at some point.

I dont have any worries on the actual film like others might but waiting round for anything can just be a bloody pain.

mickeywolfman · August 25, 2021, 01:33:12 PM

I just want to quickly add that besides the film, I am most excited for the press circuit afterwards—even if there isn't much of it for some reason.
Another opportunity for great interviews, more great insights into how he works—he always handles them with such grace, perhaps a bit performative, but I find it so exciting to hear even more stories from PTA post film (ie the stories of the genesis of the film, the challenges on set, his attitude on life/art the past few years). Can't wait!

Tdog · August 25, 2021, 02:00:19 PM

Quote from: mickeywolfman on August 25, 2021, 01:33:12 PM
I just want to quickly add that besides the film, I am most excited for the press circuit afterwards—even if there isn't much of it for some reason.
Another opportunity for great interviews, more great insights into how he works—he always handles them with such grace, perhaps a bit performative, but I find it so exciting to hear even more stories from PTA post film (ie the stories of the genesis of the film, the challenges on set, his attitude on life/art the past few years). Can't wait!

I hope he does more long form podcasts. I'd LOVE to see him go on one of the Your Moms House shows. Especially since Christina P also grew up in the Valley.

tomthiel57 · August 25, 2021, 02:19:59 PM

Quote from: mickeywolfman on August 25, 2021, 01:33:12 PM
I just want to quickly add that besides the film, I am most excited for the press circuit afterwards—even if there isn't much of it for some reason.
Another opportunity for great interviews, more great insights into how he works—he always handles them with such grace, perhaps a bit performative, but I find it so exciting to hear even more stories from PTA post film (ie the stories of the genesis of the film, the challenges on set, his attitude on life/art the past few years). Can't wait!

The same for me. I remember having really good times listening to him during the press circuit for Phantom Thread (like the Bill Simmons podcast he did)

Drill · August 25, 2021, 03:10:43 PM

The Bill Simmons one was the worst from that press tour for me. I'm probably projecting because I can't stand Simmons but it was nowhere near as good as the Marc Maron interview (from the IV tour). I don't expect him to be as open or do as much this time around. I'm curious how everything with Cooper Hoffman is going to be handled. I'm sure PTA is very protective of him. Maybe they'll only do interviews together?

Find Your Magali · August 25, 2021, 03:23:51 PM

I think the studio might just be waiting to see how the arc of COVID goes in the next 2-4 weeks, plus we might have a sense of how COVID might interact with the start of flu season, as it relate to theaters. .... Some films are already shifting further backward. I think others will do so, too. ... If there's a *chance* the film is headed to late 2021 or 2022, they might not want to waste the impact of all the big reveals quite yet.

wilberfan · August 25, 2021, 03:34:02 PM

Yep. That's what I'm thinking too...

Yes · August 25, 2021, 03:51:53 PM

Quote from: Find Your Magali on August 25, 2021, 03:23:51 PM
I think the studio might just be waiting to see how the arc of COVID goes in the next 2-4 weeks, plus we might have a sense of how COVID might interact with the start of flu season, as it relate to theaters. .... Some films are already shifting further backward. I think others will do so, too. ... If there's a *chance* the film is headed to late 2021 or 2022, they might not want to waste the impact of all the big reveals quite yet.

Why would they release the trailer for Gucci then? They're still releasing Cyrano in Christmas, it was shown at Cinemacon and will be going to Telluride

Alethia · August 25, 2021, 04:02:23 PM

I personally can't wait for a trailer to drop to bring an end to all this exhausting speculation.

Drenk · August 25, 2021, 04:38:14 PM

Quote from: eward on August 25, 2021, 04:02:23 PM
I personally can't wait for a trailer to drop to bring an end to all this exhausting speculation.

We need to wait for the theatrical release of James Bond: No Time to Bottom.

pynchonikon · August 25, 2021, 04:48:59 PM

Quote from: Yes on August 25, 2021, 03:51:53 PM
Quote from: Find Your Magali on August 25, 2021, 03:23:51 PM
I think the studio might just be waiting to see how the arc of COVID goes in the next 2-4 weeks, plus we might have a sense of how COVID might interact with the start of flu season, as it relate to theaters. .... Some films are already shifting further backward. I think others will do so, too. ... If there's a *chance* the film is headed to late 2021 or 2022, they might not want to waste the impact of all the big reveals quite yet.

Why would they release the trailer for Gucci then? They're still releasing Cyrano in Christmas, it was shown at Cinemacon and will be going to Telluride

I believe too that COVID has very little to do with this. Best case scenario it's just PTA being insanely overprotective over his new child before letting it be shown to the world.

His experiences with the promotion of the Master (Weinstein dumped it in September and later admitted he didn't know how to sell it) and IV (WB tried to advertise the film for something that it wasn't) may have made him a bit too fussy about the marketing of his films. I bet Focus (Phantom Thead) gave him the assurances he wanted in that regard, and so does MGM/UAR apparently. I could definitely see them having objections about the title of the film remaining Soggy Bottom, though.

Yes · August 25, 2021, 05:08:50 PM

I think people are just trying to justify the weird lack of news about this when it most likely boils down to PTA doing whatever PTA gonna do.

Find Your Magali · August 25, 2021, 05:24:11 PM

Quote from: Yes on August 25, 2021, 03:51:53 PM
Quote from: Find Your Magali on August 25, 2021, 03:23:51 PM
I think the studio might just be waiting to see how the arc of COVID goes in the next 2-4 weeks, plus we might have a sense of how COVID might interact with the start of flu season, as it relate to theaters. .... Some films are already shifting further backward. I think others will do so, too. ... If there's a *chance* the film is headed to late 2021 or 2022, they might not want to waste the impact of all the big reveals quite yet.

Why would they release the trailer for Gucci then? They're still releasing Cyrano in Christmas, it was shown at Cinemacon and will be going to Telluride

Gucci is easy Oscar bait. It's going to get nominations no matter what, with all the star power.

Soggy needs perfect handling and a perfect set of conditions to cut through the rest of the field and make an impact. In these strange, sad times, it could just "appear and disappear" in 14 days, if people are staying away from theaters. This is not a COVID-proof film. That's my two cents, anyway. .... I know nothing.

PinkTeeth · August 25, 2021, 05:57:38 PM

I also know nothing...

...but maybe PTA is done with the game, the money game that is, and maybe something like a pandemic is exactly the thing needed for one to remove themselves out of this game. These movies last longer than their box office runs, and are more valuable than any opening weekend, and we all know this.

Opportunities for big screen projection won't ever go anywhere, maybe harder to get to, but how many of us first saw 2001 on a video tape on a tv?

Once 'Soggy What-now,' or whatever it ends up being called, is done and out there, there's no way it'll ever disappear, it'll just ever-exist, easy to be found or stumbled upon by whomever wills it... the way most art has always existed, right? Wrong?

I dunno. I hope it just appears one day... I hope any great film just 'appears' one day, and sets the precedent for movies to just pop up from nowhere, without any of the hubbub and glitz that's lined villian pockets since the silver age of cinema. It's not truly necessary for big budgets anymore, not with the pocket magic everyone walks around with... we must have seen it all by now if we wanted. What more beyond a great story is needed?

in short: FUCK THE STUDIOS.