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Title: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on January 15, 2020, 06:13:25 PM


potential best Shawn Levy movie since Real Steel which is the best blue collar futuristic movie ever so far

there's a literary similar concept novel

(https://i.imgur.com/rA5viKl.jpg?1)

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A deeply personal novel about race, pop culture, and escaping the roles we are forced to playóby the author of the infinitely inventive How to Live Safely in a Science Fictional Universe.

Willis Wu doesnít perceive himself as a protagonist even in his own life: Heís merely Generic Asian man. Sometimes he gets to be Background Oriental Making a Weird Face or even Disgraced Son, but he is always relegated to a prop. Yet every day he leaves his tiny room in a Chinatown SRO and enters the Golden Palace restaurant, where Black and White, a procedural cop show, is in perpetual production. Heís a bit player here, too, but he dreams of being Kung Fu Guyóthe most respected role that anyone who looks like him can attain. At least thatís what he has been told, time and time again. Except by one person, his mother. Who says to him: Be more.
 
Playful but heartfelt, a send-up of Hollywood tropes and Asian stereotypes, Interior Chinatown is Charles Yuís most moving, daring, and masterly novel yet.
Title: Re: Free Guy
Post by: jenkins on January 16, 2020, 06:15:02 PM
the disruptive component is the idea of a Ryan Reynolds Cinematic Universe innit. i mean he donít impress me neither but heís happened
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on February 14, 2020, 11:52:11 PM
as last year's um Ron Howard Republican Book Adaptation was converted into a Misc Thread, so thereby was Free Guy transformed into a Shit Happening Thread

Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on April 25, 2020, 02:15:09 AM
from the director of Fantastic Four and that teenage superhero movie whatever it was called. he's also the writer and, oh, editor. costarring Kyle MacLachlan. Lynch's dp (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005687/). Music by El-P



Was originally intended to be theatrically released but due to the COVID-19 pandemic these plans were dropped in favor of a direct-to-digital release. May 12, 2020
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on May 13, 2020, 11:17:20 PM
You Should Have Left (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8201852/) is an adaptation of a Daniel Kehlmann novel, written and directed by David Koepp (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1547234/). it's listed as Completed

the book is a breeze of a read and it doesn't make its The Shining influence unclear. the movie not the book
(https://i.imgur.com/KqkBoYl.png)

um the line between reality and dream becomes blurred for a writer owing to a mountain setting

i'm sort of fascinated by the idea of being a marvelously gifted individual who's magnetized by imitating King, Kubrick, or their powers combined. like theoretically fascinated
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on May 14, 2020, 02:34:24 AM
that previous photo is slightly blurry which drives me insane and unfortunately an insane man can't make the minor effort to fix it, though i did concentrate when taking a photo of my favorite line in the book, also placing a red box around it

(https://i.imgur.com/DQnBC3q.jpg)

"The devil built it and a wizard destroyed it, with God's help." i def most like the part about God helping the wizard destroy a tower the devil built

this is a better book than it will be a movie maybe, because it's seriously an easy read, and it says things like "The hall expanded, and I ran, stumbled, caught myself, kept running toward the stairs" and "[...]in addition to the three dimensions you have to imagine another three from the other side, or actually from within . . ." i was into unfamiliar spooky voices the father heard, and people appearing from nowhere! new doors appearing! strange reflections! it was so fun how it kept scaring me

i fully support its sense of adventure while also thinking that it doesn't exactly rattle my soul, however well it's written, when a father and his daughter walk down a mountain to arrive back at the top. i'm like oh, okay, overall. that's why existentialism is my thing
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: WorldForgot on May 14, 2020, 10:31:56 AM
from the director of Fantastic Four and that teenage superhero movie whatever it was called. he's also the writer and, oh, editor. costarring Kyle MacLachlan. Lynch's dp (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005687/). Music by El-P



Was originally intended to be theatrically released but due to the COVID-19 pandemic these plans were dropped in favor of a direct-to-digital release. May 12, 2020

CAPONE's Madness is a Breath of Fresh Air (https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2020/05/12/the-grotesque-ballad-of-alphonse-capone)

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This is a go-for-broke movie on every level, from Tom Hardy's ferocious lead performance to Trank's aggressively non-conventional script to the grisly tableaux Trank gleefully parades Capone through as he tries to get inside this dying, increasingly-insane gangster's mind. The discourse surrounding this film has already become a reductive echo chamber of "lol Tom Hardy poops his pants" observations, which is pretty stunning when you consider how much more there is to chew on here. I'm honestly not sure what would motivate anyone to make this particular movie, but the fact that Josh Trank's the one behind it makes the whole thing even chewier. Given that, it's the sort of film you might feel compelled to decode, but I suspect that would ultimately prove to be a dead end. Capone can't trust his mind any more than we can trust the film itself (both are unreliable narrators of the highest order), and what clues we think we've found would likely turn out to be red herrings.

You see? Fascinating.

There's very little narrative to CAPONE: it's 1946, and Alphonse ("Fonzo" to virtually everyone in the film) Capone has been sent home early from prison thanks to his deteriorating mental condition. He, his family (including his supernaturally patient wife, played by a stellar Linda Cardellini), and a small army of gardeners, servants and handymen fill out a massive estate in Palm Island, Florida, where everyone does their best to navigate Fonzo's outbursts and occasional cruelty. He might sit for hours in a chair, chewing a cigar and looking out across the lake behind his house (Is someone watching him from the other side? Are those...binoculars?), only to suddenly explode in a fit of mush-mouthed obscenities. What caused the outburst? Who knows? Whatever's going on inside Capone's mind as he rides out this final year is not pretty, and it's everyone else's job to stay out of his way ... and, when necessary, to clean up after him.

There are dangling plot threads. $10M which Capone may or may not have hidden somewhere on the property, and the various hangers-on and government stooges who seek to get their hands on it. An illegitimate son who appears to be in cahoots with some of those stooges. A doctor (Kyle MacLachlan) who's trying to avoid prison time. These threads exist but they're never fully explored or resolved; the vast majority of the film takes place within Capone's sizzling, collapsing brain, and what we find there is a swirling miasma of disconnected memories, simmering fears and rage. As crazy as this sounds, the film I kept thinking of while watching CAPONE was Pablo LarraŪn's JACKIE, another film which was more concerned with impressing a feeling and tone upon its audience than a traditional narrative (that CAPONE's score, gorgeously rendered by Run The Jewels' El-P, also sounds a little like Mica Levi's JACKIE score only serves to make the comparison feel less crazy).
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on May 16, 2020, 03:59:07 AM
i recently read We Have Always Lived in the Castle, which is a marvelous book, that has been adapted (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5952138/), though i'm in no rush to see its adaptation. what interests me is i learned that just this year Elisabeth Moss acted as Shirley Jackson in a biopic directed by Josephine Decker. the release date is June 5. it played at sundance and has thus been reviewed (https://www.metacritic.com/movie/shirley)

Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on May 20, 2020, 12:54:53 PM


Written and Directed by Nicholas Ashe Bateman
Executive Produced by Shane Carruth and Lawrence Inglee
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: wilder on May 20, 2020, 07:03:35 PM
Wow that looks different. Good different.
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on May 20, 2020, 07:42:26 PM
i liked it better after my second viewing. sometimes i often say i want to experience the movie freshly, without the trailer, but i think that works best when i already know iíll like the movie, and on occasion one has to get to know a movie in order to feel comfortable

to me thereís a sense of rigidity that suppresses the ecstasy of infinity but idk sometimes you gotta serious chat about love and beauty, so i gotta loosen up to get serious
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on May 21, 2020, 10:13:45 PM
Shane Carruth Discusses The World-Building In The New Indie Fable, ĎThe Wanting Mareí (https://theplaylist.net/shane-carruth-wanting-mare-interview-20200521/)

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The first thing I wanted to ask you is how did you get involved with the film?

Hereís the deal. Iím not involved with the film. I didnít make this. I just know Nick was in CoatWolf [Productions]; Evan has a movie coming out called ďCanary.Ē Itís gonna pretty much destroy everybody all day for years. Itís one of the most amazing things Iíve ever seen and heís still not done with it. So itís still getting better. In the meantime, Nick did a lot of work, a lot of 2D, CG editing. Making it. Perfecting it. 

And after that, he knew that he was his own Alpha Wolf and he needed to make his own thing. And so they separated. I loved it. Because I get to be friends with both of them. And so Nick, heís been building this world. If I talk to him to call him, then weíll talk about ďThe Wanting Mare,Ē about Whithren. Weíll talk about cities. And after a while you have a map in your head and youíre like, ďOh God. This guyís only telling you a fraction of the story of how this works.Ē But I can pull out shit right now about whatís coming next. And it blows my mind, the ideas that he has. But you know, itís not time for that. Still, the guy made a world, and now he is taking a moment. Itís so good.

I found myself gravitating toward the mythos thatís been created around this world of horses and different continents. Thereís that first aerial shot thatís a map. Immediately I was thinking, ďWhatís that dot? That dot?Ē

Totally. Totally. And thatís what I mean. And of course, I mean thatís not real. Thatís just him being awesome with Blender. Heís amazing. And hereís the thing: the guyís going to get promoted like a CG 2D artist, like a Neill Blomkamp kind of guy. ďOh, okay. Thatís a skill. I get it. Cool.Ē

Thatís not the case with this guy, dude. Like yes, that stuff. But he did it out of necessity. It doesnít mean that the literature is less. The literature is real. In the trailer it says, ďIf youíre not going to get me across, then youíll just have to forget me. Iíll forget you. You forget me.Ē That is not somebody whoís obsessed [solely]  with using CG-like rendering, right? This is literature. Itís just in this day and age, some of us have to come up with clever ways to get it across.

Something that really interested me was the ecological theme in the film. Thereís a scene where someone turns into dust and is consumed by a horse, which on its face feels fantastical, but is actually grounded in realism. As you know, we ultimately return to the ground and become the mulch for the grass the horses graze on. Thereís a Whitman transcendentalist quality to it, which reminds me of ďUpstream Color.Ē Could you speak on the return to nature theme thatís prevalent in ďThe Wanting Mare.Ē

Iím thinking. Alright, well Iím stuck. Iím in a dichotomy right now. Cause what you said could be true. It could be. I canít fight it, but Iím not here to say that at all. I donít say that thereís similarities.

I mean, you know my deal with ďUpstream,Ē right?  I didnít know that I was stealing from ďWalden.Ē I donít think I was stealing from ďWalden.Ē I really donít. But I do see it. I see the similarities. I see what I got from it; what I stoleÖMaybe thatís the wrong word. So Iím not going to do that with Nick, but umÖ 

I wouldnít call it theft. Just a theme that feels recurrent, like with anything that ends up feeling somewhat universal.

I could try to do it. I could make a connection, but Iíd be lying. Iím still watching his film. I watch it once in a while. I watched the trailer. Itís one of these things. Itís like you leave the theater, you know, after ďPhantom ThreadĒ or whatever you saw and youíre like, ďOkay, well I donít know if I saw a whole movie there, but I just want to talk about it.Ē

Whatís that Tarantino movie that Tony Scott directed starring Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette?

ďTrue RomanceĒ

There we go. ďTrue Romance.Ē Okay. Itís like that. There we go. Great. Because in ďTrue Romance,Ē after they see the movie, Patricia Arquette, says she wants to go have a piece of pie and talk about it. Thatís literally the only reason I even brought it up was to recall that scene.

I think one of the values you get from making something thatís a little bit obtuse, a little bit insular, a little bit inside itself is that you allow the audience to walk away and have something to talk about. And I donít mean it as a trick. I donít mean you should make movies obtuse just to make people have a reason to go get gelato afterward. I just mean that there is such a thing in film that is just like the greatest book you ever read, and you canít wait to tell your wife about it. And have her read it; and you can talk about it in depth.

What have you taken away from ďThe Wanting Mare?Ē How has it connected with you?

Itís the women, generation after generation, that have the same dream. They have the same longing. They know thereís something they should probably do, they think, but they donít know what it is. So they live in this place, but only once in a while can you actually ever leave. And so eventually the third one decides she has to go. Sheís gotta get out of this. Itís ďThunder Road.Ē ďWe gotta get out of place. Weíve got to go to a city. Pack up. You want to get in the car with me?Ē That kind of stuff.

In the meantime, you have a lot of men running around with guns that are worried about tickets and horses. Thatís the bit about money. Thatís the bit about dollars. Thatís a bit about coercion. Moving and pressing, and you mix them both up. Then you have something like a spirit thatís got to get out of that fucking town.

i'm not sure if he was the right person to interview for this
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on May 22, 2020, 01:17:50 AM
have decided to make it a personal mission to appreciate this movie
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on May 30, 2020, 04:50:58 PM
Carruthís executive producing gig has dovetailed into a trailer pitch for his next movie

https://vimeo.com/23608364
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: Drenk on May 30, 2020, 05:37:25 PM
A Topiary won't be made, they just made public the mock trailer. The script is available on the world wide web. You can see a still from the creatures of A Topirary in Upstream Color, by the way.
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on May 30, 2020, 05:53:16 PM
oh right right. this was a sideline to the neighborhood protests
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on June 09, 2020, 03:23:39 PM
You Should Have Left (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8201852/) is an adaptation of a Daniel Kehlmann novel, written and directed by David Koepp (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1547234/). it's listed as Completed



looks blah. the vo from the unseen person is a grocer in the small town if it parallels the book in that regard.  there are book-to-movie changes noticeable in the trailer though
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on July 26, 2020, 05:02:24 PM

when a tweet nails what has always bothered you about a person. this same quality applies to bret easton ellis and alex ross perry as well, and itís why i think theyíre bad role models. any promotion of any form of bitterness is bad news
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: putneyswipe on July 26, 2020, 06:18:09 PM
Given that the film industry generally definitely doesnít have any vendettas against ďvisionaryĒ straight white male filmmakers, it always seemed like maybe a personality problem
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on July 27, 2020, 08:01:15 PM
oof itís weird to say but to be fair to bee and arp carruth is a problem on another level (https://variety.com/2020/film/news/shane-carruth-accused-abusing-amy-seimetz-1234717339/). the general feeling is that it was wrong of him to disclose the papers in the first place btw
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on July 28, 2020, 12:17:37 AM
to run it through reason here:

Amy Seimetz is a person of sound mind

it was not in fact she who brought this to our attention

Shane Carruth is a person who asks for trust regarding specific perspectives

"You are Shiva, the goddess of death. I see you. I will know when it’s time for you to be done… You should be scared. You don’t know what I’m going to do… You should be scared.”

“You want to fight me? Bring it. I will kill you.”

she pleaded with him to stop contacting her ... “I know exactly where your house is… you’ll never beat me.” ... “Understand how dangerous you are making this encounter.”

and reportedly

Carruth had screamed at her repeatedly while drunk, put his hands on her, and called her a “stupid whore” and a “stupid c—.”

if he is exactly the person he says he is, it is of sound mind for there to be suspicions of "moderate to high level of threat" and possession of a “fixation” that coincides with “direct homicidal threats"

to summarize: a restraining order is reasonable if he sees it as reasonable to say outrageous things

my personal perspective: it's not my fault that he's not funny in the first place, and it's not my fault that humor never saves a bad deed anyway
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on July 28, 2020, 03:47:53 PM
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Update, 12 p.m. Tuesday: The hearing on the restraining order was held via telephone on Tuesday morning. Carruth dialed in and interrupted the judge at least a dozen times, even after being repeatedly admonished to be quiet. Unable to mute his line, the judge continued the hearing to Aug. 21 so that it could be held either in person or via video.

Joshua Rosenberg, Seimetzís attorney, informed the judge that Carruth had violated the order to have no contact with Seimetz 20 times since the last hearing on July 6. The judge, Commissioner Laura Cohen, advised that she could take any alleged violations to the police. The temporary restraining order remains in place until the next hearing.
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: Drenk on July 28, 2020, 04:27:58 PM
What a psycho.
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on July 28, 2020, 07:09:08 PM


simply, although itís complex, to find a root problem here, the conversation is not being engaged in a rational way, and, unfortunately, he is def-def not lol

at this point itís best for me to follow this as little as i can/not at all

it is, as i would say, am saying, bad melodrama shane carruth
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on July 29, 2020, 12:09:23 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/0hKbx4t.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on August 24, 2020, 04:25:51 PM


Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on August 26, 2020, 02:47:39 PM
Steven Soderbergh executive produced Bill & Ted Face the Music, which is set to be released this Friday in select theaters and PVOD
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: jenkins on September 08, 2020, 10:48:08 AM
Ben Wheatley is dopeass living the dream and i look forward to when he makes another movie i want to watch even though ughck iím sure this is fine fine fine

Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: WorldForgot on September 08, 2020, 01:49:28 PM




lol! I missed you posting this, jenks -- this event was so funny. A "virtual convention" / a very well disguised press junket. Much less crowded than ComicCon San Diego, and essentially just as effective. Well, press wise. Energy and fandom needs the room, to feel truly hype, though. Empty virtual "halls" and tiny humans are funny - not grand.

(https://i.imgur.com/5SW9yhQ.png)
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on October 30, 2020, 11:30:34 AM
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Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on November 01, 2020, 07:14:03 PM
A special message from the writer of Hillbilly Elegy:

Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: Drenk on November 01, 2020, 07:56:32 PM
Is that supposed to be viral marketing?  :ponder:
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: WorldForgot on November 04, 2020, 10:18:21 PM
Title: Re: Shit Happening
Post by: WorldForgot on November 20, 2020, 12:03:51 PM