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The Director's Chair => Paul Thomas Anderson => Topic started by: wilberfan on February 07, 2018, 10:35:06 PM

Title: PTA Personal Life
Post by: wilberfan on February 07, 2018, 10:35:06 PM
Paul Thomas Anderson and Maya Rudolph Are the Greatest Celebrity Couple

https://www.thecut.com/2018/02/pta-and-maya-rudolph-are-our-greatest-celebrity-couple.html

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At first look, these two would appear to be from different worlds. Maya Rudolph is a comedy icon of the highest order: an SNL multi-hyphenate and comic genius with the soul of a 1950s variety star and a head that can pull off any wig. PTA is a controlling cinematic visionary who inspires more film-boy worship than Christopher Nolan and the Coen Brothers combined. Both are revered, yet for very different bodies of work. He comes across as intense and cerebral, she as goofy and warm.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: polkablues on February 07, 2018, 10:57:16 PM
And yet they donít even have a celebrity couple nickname.

My suggestion? Paya T. Rudolson.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: wilberfan on October 25, 2018, 09:30:24 PM
Just because it's nice seeing Maya back on the scene.   (Some decent FX for TV, too...)


https://youtu.be/t-wvXZiw16Q
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: wilberfan on November 05, 2018, 09:34:55 PM

WATCH Ghoulardi (Ernie Anderson) Shows Off Baby (Paul Thomas Anderson)
How He Invented Cleveland Punk, The Cramps, et. al.
ďStay sick, knifĒ
PLUS Mad Daddy
Cleveland WHK



"The punk-a-billy band The Cramps, named their 1990 album Stay Sick! 
David Thomas, of art rock band Pere Ubu, said that the Cramps were "so thoroughly co-optive of the Ghoulardi persona that when they first appeared, Clevelanders of the generation were fairly dismissive."

Thomas credits Ghoulardi for influencing the "otherness" of the Cleveland/Akron bands of the mid-1970s and early-1980s, including the Electric Eels, and The Mirrors, the Cramps, and Thomas's own groups, Pere Ubu and Rocket From The Tombs, declaring:

"We were the Ghoulardi kids." (Akron's Devo aren't included on Thomas' list, but they were formed in the same era as the other groups and shared a similar esthetic.)

In 2002, Cleveland-area indie band Uptown Sinclair featured a Ghoulardi-derived basketball referee in the slapstick music video for their song "Girlfriend."

The most obvious Ghoulardi kid, Anderson's son, film director Paul Thomas Anderson, named his production entity "The Ghoulardi Film Company."


Video Link (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2zwlw)


[If this segment was produced in '78, the infant seen beginning at 3:54 would not be Baby Paul.  Possibly one of the kids around the pool table at 5:45, though?]


Source (https://visualguidanceltd.blogspot.com/2018/11/watch-ghoulardi-ernie-anderson-shows.html)



Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Fernando on November 26, 2018, 01:11:44 PM
And yet they donít even have a celebrity couple nickname.

My suggestion? Paya T. Rudolson.


PT May or Mayanderson
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Nails9 on November 26, 2018, 11:17:37 PM
Maul.

Then Darth Maul once you get familiar.

Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: wilberfan on April 22, 2020, 03:35:12 PM
The Reason Maya Rudolph Calls Paul Thomas Anderson Her Husband Even Though They Arenít Married

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But when doing a 2018 profile with The New York Times, Maya confirmed that she and Paul had been together for 17 years. On top of that, she revealed that despite the fact that they are not legally married, she calls him her husband. Labeling Paul as her husband rather than boyfriend started one day when she was at a restaurant and talking with a maÓtre d,í who told a story about a man who labeled himself as "the unofficial mayor of the Valley." In reply, Maya blurted out, "I hope it wasn't my husband."

From then on, the label stuck. She told the outlet that she felt "ooky" to call Paul her boyfriend after the birth of their now 14-year-old daughter, Pearl (they are also parents to Minnie, 6, Jack, 8, and Lucille, 10). Maya likes to use the title husband because "people know what that means. It means heís the father of my child, and I live with him, and we are a couple, and we are not going anywhere."

I thought I'd heard from a semi-inside source that they'd actually had an extremely quiet legal ceremony in the past couple of years. [shrug]

Source (https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/life/entertainment/a32208970/maya-rudolph-paul-thomas-anderson-husband-not-married/)
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Pringle on April 22, 2020, 09:11:35 PM
Would this also be the appropriate place for any Fiona-related stuff?

Thereís a song on her new album that may be about him, and.... oh boy.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Drill on April 22, 2020, 09:47:02 PM
No, at this point, take that crap to her thread.

Your faux concern posts are starting to read like vague trolling to me, BTW.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Pringle on April 22, 2020, 10:20:34 PM
I forgot how much any mention of this upsets you, Drill.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Drenk on April 22, 2020, 10:26:31 PM
Would this also be the appropriate place for any Fiona-related stuff?

Thereís a song on her new album that may be about him, and.... oh boy.

I had this feeling too but it doesn't seem to be the case:

https://www.vulture.com/2020/04/fiona-apple-fetch-the-bolt-cutters-songs.html

Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Drill on April 22, 2020, 10:43:21 PM
I forgot how much any mention of this upsets you, Drill.

Uh...no? I said from the beginning that I never liked or got the fascination about their relationship. She said her piece. They obviously don't want anything to do with each other and she has nothing to do with his life or career now. I don't see the point in talking about her on his threads anymore. It's boring. If you're a fan of hers, she has her own thread on the music section where you can discuss her all you want.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Robyn on April 23, 2020, 12:53:03 AM
Which song are you guys talking about?
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Alma on April 23, 2020, 02:56:24 AM
Would this also be the appropriate place for any Fiona-related stuff?

Thereís a song on her new album that may be about him, and.... oh boy.

I had this feeling too but it doesn't seem to be the case:

https://www.vulture.com/2020/04/fiona-apple-fetch-the-bolt-cutters-songs.html

The first couple of lines sound like they could be Phantom Thread references though.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Drenk on April 23, 2020, 05:57:53 AM
Which song are you guys talking about?

For Her.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Pringle on April 23, 2020, 02:08:13 PM
The big line towards the end, as well ó heís said in interviews that he delivered his first daughter at home during a home birth.

Iím not trying to muckrake or whip up outrage or show ďfaux-concernĒ with this. I think itís newsworthy and this whole thing (the album) definitely is PTA-related, considering the fact that the main promo article is entirely based around their relationship, and it doesnít take a rocket scientist to make specific connections from that article to this album. This line, in particular, is already stoking controversy online, and this has become one of the most acclaimed albums in years ó itís gonna get brought up.

The lines cited are just way way way too juicy and loaded to brush aside for me. I was relieved by that vulture article as well but, isnít ďthis happened to a friend of mineĒ the oldest answer-dodge in the book?
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: trytotell on April 23, 2020, 02:22:33 PM
I wouldn't be remotely surprised if Pringle is Fiona herself.

WTF are you even insinuating? BTW, they, meaning PTA and Fiona, lived in Los Feliz then both moved out of that house after their break up and he moved back to the Valley.

Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Pringle on April 23, 2020, 02:34:18 PM
Iím not Fiona Apple.

Iím implying that this song, which has direct allusions to Boogie Nights and Phantom Thread and which is directly about a Hollywood asshole snorting cocaine and pretending to be nice during awards season, which is featured on an album whose title track is about correcting the public perception of you as a crazy person based on the behavior of your ex (which is explicitly what her stories of PTA in the New Yorker article are about) ends with a line accusing this unnamed, anonymous, Hollywood awards season darling of raping her in a bed that his daughter was born in.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: trytotell on April 23, 2020, 02:37:50 PM
You're doing nothing but projecting. She literally told you what the songs are about.

She said he never hit her, yet you apparently seem to think she's going to turn around and indirectly accuse him of rape? Are you really that stupid?
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: jenkins on April 23, 2020, 02:44:39 PM
thereís some heat in this

genuine curiosity can be roused in this situation but not concrete particulars. again: concrete particulars cannot be derived from the song, is the big picture here
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Pringle on April 23, 2020, 02:49:10 PM
thereís some heat in this

genuine curiosity can be roused in this situation but not concrete particulars. again: concrete particulars cannot be derived from the song, is the big picture here

This is legitimately what Iím trying to get at. Iím not claiming that he absolutely abused her and he is cancelled or anything like that.

I donít want to get into arguments about the validity of this, especially considering what weíre talking about, but unless this is just a straight up uncritical PTA fanboy page, I donít see why Iíd have to be an idiot ó or Fiona Apple ó to start making these very obvious connections.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Drenk on April 23, 2020, 02:50:55 PM
Pringle, your reading of the lyrics makes sense. Apple has also mentioned how hard these subjects are when you don't want to hurt the person. For Her goes from the third person to the first person before ending with a chorus of women. To write about the Hollywood man abusing her friend, she's probably used personal memories about a certain abusive wonderboy. After all, the lyrics become a story rooted in reality. That particular story is about shared experience.

The speculation is, then, just speculation. But there's no need to act as if it were absurd, folks.


Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: trytotell on April 23, 2020, 02:54:30 PM
thereís some heat in this

genuine curiosity can be roused in this situation but not concrete particulars. again: concrete particulars cannot be derived from the song, is the big picture here

This is legitimately what Iím trying to get at. Iím not claiming that he absolutely abused her and he is cancelled or anything like that.

I donít want to get into arguments about the validity of this, especially considering what weíre talking about, but unless this is just a straight up uncritical PTA fanboy page, I donít see why Iíd have to be an idiot ó or Fiona Apple ó to start making these very obvious connections.

What part of "she explained what these songs are about" is too difficult for you to understand? So she's a liar now? Which is it? Not to mention actual facts I've provided that you deliberately ignored.

Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: trytotell on April 23, 2020, 02:56:22 PM
Pringle, your reading of the lyrics makes sense. Apple has also mentioned how hard these subjects are when you don't want to hurt the person. For Her goes from the third person to the first person before ending with a chorus of women. To write about the Hollywood man abusing her friend, she's probably used personal memories about a certain abusive wonderboy. After all, the lyrics become a story rooted in reality. That particular story is about shared experience.

The speculation is, then, just speculation. But there's no need to act as if it were absurd, folks.

Oh, shut the fuck up. That's not what he was doing and you know it.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: jenkins on April 23, 2020, 03:03:36 PM
Pringle doesnít need to keep explaining himself btw
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Drill on April 23, 2020, 03:09:18 PM
I haven't listened to it and I really don't want to because I can't stand her music, but I guess I have to now.

I think Pringle has been trying to get a rise in their previous posts. Just the tone is irritating and a little trollish.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: jenkins on April 23, 2020, 03:13:40 PM
itís better to respond than react though
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: trytotell on April 23, 2020, 03:16:36 PM
Yes, it's totally cool to imply somebody is a rapist (and don't pretend that wasn't what they were doing) and not expect any pushback.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: jenkins on April 23, 2020, 03:18:24 PM
a response rather than a reaction

I think Drenk did a great job. i understand that itís a triggering issue
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Drill on April 23, 2020, 03:26:02 PM
I'm going to go for a hot take here and say that all this just proves to me even more that Fiona's music is nowhere near as deep as people try to act like it is. At this point, she could record herself taking a dump and Pitchfork would have an orgasm.

This all sounds like sub-Yoko Ono dreck to me. I'm tapping out. Won't be making it to said song.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: polkablues on April 23, 2020, 03:41:52 PM
If everyone could move on and talk about something else, that would save me from having to lock this thread, so please and thank you in advance.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: ©brad on April 23, 2020, 06:43:46 PM
+1 to Polka because holy shit there are some terrible takes in here. And we wonder why our female membership isn't through the roof. 

This all sounds like sub-Yoko Ono dreck to me. I'm tapping out. Won't be making it to said song.

Your loss. The album is incredible.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Drill on April 23, 2020, 07:52:01 PM
+1 to Polka because holy shit there are some terrible takes in here. And we wonder why our female membership isn't through the roof. 

This all sounds like sub-Yoko Ono dreck to me. I'm tapping out. Won't be making it to said song.

Your loss. The album is incredible.

Yeah, I really don't care lol. They always say that about her and it's always utterly tedious to me. I'm done trying to like her music. I don't think it's very good. *shrugs*
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: wilberfan on May 22, 2020, 11:27:09 PM
I've never seen these photos of Mrs. Anderson before.

Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: modage on May 22, 2020, 11:51:15 PM
I've seen this one.

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Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: ©brad on May 23, 2020, 02:11:10 PM
Mod!
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Drill on May 23, 2020, 07:37:18 PM
Kind of hard to reconcile the kind-faced lady in those photos with the mom in Boogie Nights and the innuendos suggested about her. It's good that they seem to have a better relationship now. I guess having kids yourself makes you understand your parents better/forgive them.  I wish they asked him more about her during the PT press tour.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Rooty Poots on May 24, 2020, 12:36:00 AM
Kind of hard to reconcile the kind-faced lady in those photos with the mom in Boogie Nights and the innuendos suggested about her. It's good that they seem to have a better relationship now. I guess having kids yourself makes you understand your parents better/forgive them.  I wish they asked him more about her during the PT press tour.

Iím glad they didnít. He should be able to keep some things private.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: wilberfan on May 24, 2020, 01:06:09 AM
I completely agree.

The Joanna Gleason quote from the Grantland oral history almost feels like it gets too close:

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So I sat there like she sits in the movie and I did the whole scene from a seated position. Read it just as it was written. It was powerful. And at the end of it, I asked Paul if this was based on his mom. He was so jet-lagged that his little eyes were watering. I thought, Never mind, we donít need to go there. I didnít mean to push a button. And he didnít answer, but I said, ďIf it is, you never have to forgive her.Ē
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Drill on May 24, 2020, 06:46:34 AM
Kind of hard to reconcile the kind-faced lady in those photos with the mom in Boogie Nights and the innuendos suggested about her. It's good that they seem to have a better relationship now. I guess having kids yourself makes you understand your parents better/forgive them.  I wish they asked him more about her during the PT press tour.

Iím glad they didnít. He should be able to keep some things private.

Of course. I meant more about her in general. Not necessarily their relationship/the problems they've had. No matter how much better things are, that probably will always be a touchy, painful subject. I can't help but be curious though, since I think it's the real key/engine behind his work and less so Ernie, whom we always hear about.

I guess he does drop more tidbits about her now. The Rocky story he tells, for one.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: wilberfan on May 24, 2020, 11:07:10 AM
I'm holding the thought that with age, parenthood, and grandparenthood that family dynamics have improved.  Paul continues to remind us thru his work that family is everything.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Drenk on May 24, 2020, 03:28:14 PM
There was an interview where he talked about bringing his kids to his mom and how unfairly harsh he used to be. The scene from Boogie Nights is unprocessed anger from what was basically a teenager at the time.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: wilberfan on May 24, 2020, 03:42:06 PM
I don't remember now--did Eddie's mom appear in The Dirk Diggler Story?
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Alexandro on May 25, 2020, 12:06:02 PM
even by the time of the Boogie Nights commentary he mentions that his treatment of that character is unfair and superficial. but of course, that's what makes the scene so raw. it's totally from the POV of the kid.
Title: Re: PTA Personal Life
Post by: Drill on May 25, 2020, 03:39:10 PM
Even that Esquire article about his upbringing, everyone seemed a little frightened to talk about her, and so they don't.