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Title: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on April 13, 2007, 11:48:57 PM
Quote from: Gamblour. on April 13, 2007, 09:06:03 PM
Along those lines GT, I have to say Under Siege 2: Dark Territory is one of my favorite bad movies that I don't see very often. "This is your captor speaking." Love it!  :bravo:

Did you ever notice bad action films are also filled with philosophical lines?

In Cliffhanger, "You kill one man, they call you a murderer. You kill a million, they call you a conquerer" And in Under Seige 2: Dark Territory, "Chances favors the prepared mind." or the more obvious, "Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups."

Yea, the movie is filled with great lines. A friend of mine likes to watch bad movies just to rip on them, but I got him to watch Under Seige 2 and he genuinely enjoyed the film for reasons that had nothing to do with undermining it. I considered that a success.
Title: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: Pubrick on April 14, 2007, 12:07:13 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on April 13, 2007, 11:48:57 PM
Did you ever notice bad action films are also filled with philosophical lines?

Maybe I'm drunk today, tomorrow I'll be sober, BUT YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A FAGGOT!
                                                                                                   -double impact
Title: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: MacGuffin on April 14, 2007, 03:14:19 AM
Quote from: Pubrick on April 14, 2007, 12:07:13 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on April 13, 2007, 11:48:57 PM
Did you ever notice bad action films are also filled with philosophical lines?

Maybe I'm drunk today, tomorrow I'll be sober, BUT YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A FAGGOT!
                                                                                                   -double impact

"If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love."

"Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true."

- Point Break
Title: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on April 14, 2007, 03:39:12 AM
I thought of another:

"Mother is the name for God on the lips and hearts of all children."

The Crow
Title: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: MacGuffin on April 14, 2007, 11:10:21 AM
"The world meets nobody halfway. When you want something, you gotta take it."

- Over The Top
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: pete on April 14, 2007, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on April 14, 2007, 12:07:13 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on April 13, 2007, 11:48:57 PM
Did you ever notice bad action films are also filled with philosophical lines?

Maybe I'm drunk today, tomorrow I'll be sober, BUT YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A FAGGOT!
                                                                                                   -double impact

from my favorite retrospective written about van damme, ever (http://www.thewavemag.com/pagegen.php?pagename=article&articleid=23130)

Quote
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Double Impact, 1991
Plot #3 This was the first movie written and produced by JCVD, and now that he had some creative control, Jean-Claude Van Damme showed the world what his films were missing: "Another ME!" And to a lesser extent, a haunting romantic soundtrack. Unfortunately, the film's titular song, "Gonna feel the impact... OF MY SOUL! OF MY SOUL!" failed to sweep the nation's radios.
Van Dammeter: 7
With a second Jean-Claude costarring with himself, it almost gets to the point where there's TOO MUCH spin kicking. After a scene where Jean-Claude is doing the splits in turquoise tights and training a group of young men in pink karate suits, the second Jean-Claude calls him a "faggot." Normally, this type of homophobic slur would cause a scandal in the gay and lesbian karate community, but since he technically said it to himself, everything was cool.
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: Pubrick on April 16, 2007, 08:58:32 PM
and don't forget the black silk underwear which plays a pivotal role in the story.
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on April 19, 2007, 11:20:02 AM
"You are dead!"
"Hell sucked, we are back!"

-Showdown In Little Tokyo

Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: 72teeth on May 14, 2007, 07:28:47 AM
Storm: "You know what happens to a toad when it get struck by lightning....?"

(beat)

Badass Storm: "...The same thing that happens to everything else."





what the fuck.
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: socketlevel on May 16, 2007, 10:59:49 AM
Quote from: 72teeth on May 14, 2007, 07:28:47 AM
Storm: "You know what happens to a toad when it get struck by lightning....?"

(beat)

Badass Storm: "...The same thing that happens to everything else."





what the fuck.

worst line ever for the scale of movie it was.  basically anything uttered in the matrix i'd have to add to this list.
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on May 30, 2007, 09:18:13 PM
Another one from The Crow:

"Childhood ends when you know you're going to die."
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: Stefen on June 17, 2007, 11:41:27 AM
Quote from: 72teeth on May 14, 2007, 07:28:47 AM
Storm: "You know what happens to a toad when it get struck by lightning....?"

(beat)

Badass Storm: "...The same thing that happens to everything else."





what the fuck.

haha, oh my god, I remember when I heard that for the first time. I about died laughing. Then I felt really embarrassed.
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: grand theft sparrow on June 18, 2007, 10:13:22 AM
I read/was told once that Joss Whedon wrote that line with the hope of it being delivered in a more sardonic, Whedon-esque style, as opposed to like "Hasta la vista, baby."

EDIT: OK, it's in the IMDb trivia for X-Men...

Joss Whedon wrote a draft version of the script, but the suggestions he made to fix what he felt were fundamental problems with the film were not incorporated. Only two pieces of dialogue from his rewrite appeared in the final film. One is the exchange when Cyclops doesn't know if Wolverine is an impostor ("Prove it!" "You're a dick"); the other is Storm's "Do you know what happens when a toad gets hit by lightning? The same thing that happens to everything else." which he imagined as a lighthearted, offhand line.
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: The Red Vine on June 18, 2007, 02:20:38 PM
Many terrible action films seem to use the line "You have no idea who you're dealing with". I laughed when I heard it in the new Die Hard trailer.

Or a guy shouts the line "How much did she pay you?!"
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: cron on June 18, 2007, 03:38:46 PM
what about a guy looking down a microscope and saying 'in all my years of research i've never seen anything like this.' that's a bomb. that's like reading the word postmodern.

my contribution to this thread:

from miami vice
Det. James 'Sonny' Crockett: Things go wrong. The odds catch up. Probability is like gravity: you cannot negotiate with gravity.
from blade 2
the bad guy:  who do you think god really favors in the web? the spider or the fly?


Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: grand theft sparrow on June 18, 2007, 04:18:51 PM
Quote from: cronopio on June 18, 2007, 03:38:46 PM
from miami vice
Det. James 'Sonny' Crockett: Things go wrong. The odds catch up. Probability is like gravity: you cannot negotiate with gravity.

I swear, on the way home I was thinking about this exact line and I was going to post it.  What makes that line even worse is that it looks like he's reading cue cards as he delivers it.
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: Pubrick on June 19, 2007, 07:13:29 AM
Quote from: cronopio on June 18, 2007, 03:38:46 PM
the bad guy:  who do you think god really favors in the web? the spider or the fly?

the web.
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on June 19, 2007, 11:35:54 AM
Quote from: cronopio on June 18, 2007, 03:38:46 PMfrom blade 2
the bad guy:  who do you think god really favors in the web? the spider or the fly?

Reminds me of,

Man on Fire
Creasy: Forgiveness is between them and God. It's my job to arrange the meeting.

Although I wouldn't qualify it as a 'bad' action movie, the line is lame enough to make the list.
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: Sunrise on June 19, 2007, 12:35:16 PM
Quote from: sparrowhoff on June 18, 2007, 04:18:51 PM
Quote from: cronopio on June 18, 2007, 03:38:46 PM
from miami vice
Det. James 'Sonny' Crockett: Things go wrong. The odds catch up. Probability is like gravity: you cannot negotiate with gravity.

I swear, on the way home I was thinking about this exact line and I was going to post it.  What makes that line even worse is that it looks like he's reading cue cards as he delivers it.


While that line is ridiculous, it really doesn't belong in this thread as we are only talking about bad action films...correct?
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: Pubrick on June 19, 2007, 01:19:18 PM
Quote from: Sunrise on June 19, 2007, 12:35:16 PM
we are only talking about bad action films...correct?

yeah but GT keeps quoting the crow so.. (https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi5.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy154%2Fpubrick%2Femoticons%2Ficon_darin.gif&hash=44f6e5d313993b11a250a9908a592fcf2e91526f)
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on June 19, 2007, 02:26:49 PM
Miami Vice is bad. And while I do think The Crow and Man on Fire are good, they are still action films. None of them are perfect. I say their ability to have bad lines is due to bad genes.
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: The Sheriff on June 19, 2007, 11:52:20 PM
wow, professor! i never thought of it like that before!
Title: Re: ever notice how bad action films are filled with philosophical lines?
Post by: Mel on September 07, 2014, 06:10:02 AM
I could just paste a script of The Counselor, since it goes from digressions to dogmatics all the time, no dialogue to be found, maybe beside:

LAURA        Okay. I want you to finger fuck me.