People are just dumb. I don't mean to be a snob or anything, but let's face it. Most people on teh face of the earth are stupid. Especially when it comes to movies.
And the problem is, they have such dumb fucking opinions about why they hate movies. I once had a guy (actually a good friend of mine, and not even that dumb of a guy) say he didn't like Edward Scissorhands because, and I quote: "It was a guy trying to eat without any hands. What the fuck?" I was just thinking about this, and if he didn't live three hours away from me, I would punch him.
Anyway, what's the stupidest argument you've ever heard from someone as to why they like or don't like a movie.
P.S. The other most annoying thing people do is, when you ask them why they liked and Adam Sandler film, they start doing impressions of him doing an obnoxious fucking voice. As if that somehow justifies the fact that they like the movie. Hey, I like several Adam Sandler movies, like Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore, Airheads, Big Daddy, and Punch Drunk Love of course. But when he just tries to make me hemmorage with an obnoxious retard voice, I just...I just...words fail me.
"the top and bottom of the picture is missing"
I've heard Wal mart is actually selling DVDs with sticker on them saying "No black bars at the top or bottom! You get all the picture!"
I swear, a nuclear war is looking better every day.
'This is so f***in' boring'
.....is what I heard some asshole say in the OPENING minutes of 'PDL'.
It just pissed me off.
"Are there 2 Gollum's?" Overheard at LOTR The Two Towers
"Why did he kill that guy like 3 times" Overheard after Memento
"I hate the Matrix because at first you don't know what's going on"
My mom is notorious for saying that films don't end right. Like the end of Traffic or Chasing Amy, she got mad and said "It didn't end right!"
"PDL is just another Sandler-film"...........argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"the ending doesnt make sense" - sixth sense
Most of mine have to do with PDL, this thread is going to yield a lot of interesting stuff.
"He (Barry) was screwed up for no reason, and the dialouge was sophomoric"
Also about PDL (I've spoken about this before...
"He should've just done like the man said and shut up!"
heres one that was pretty funny, in "the center of the world", during the sex scene, i heard a woman say "well, it SOUNDS real."
Coming out of BLADE II someone says "that was the best movie I've ever seen"
Magnolia "that was so stupid" - care to quantify? what makes it stupid?
but my favorite line of all time was said by a "friend" of a friend who during a serious movie discussion says "I hate movies that make you think" --- Da Dah! I am sure her favorite movie of all time is Scoobie Doo.
Oh, here's a recent conversation from school
"You know what movie was gay?"
"Which one?"
"Being John something. It didn't make sense."
Swear to God:
When I first saw "Heathers," right after the croquet opening scene:
Heather: Heather, it's you're turn.
Heather: No, Heather, it's Heather's turn.
A few rows in front of my cousin and I, one older woman said to her friend, "They're all named Heather?"
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In the row behind me during "The Hours": "Everyone's kissing in this movie."
After Solaris, some guy said "That was worse than Rollerball!" His girlfriend displayed a higher intellect by responding with, "well, I wouldn't go that far."
Twenty minutes into PDL, some girl behind me said "I hate this movie." Her boyfriend kept saying, "no, no it'll get better." He'd offer a strained laugh at anything that was remotely funny. I kinda felt sorry for him...he was trying so hard to enjoy the movie, but it was just over his head.
The second time I saw PDL, an older couple in front of me both fell asleep on each other's shoulders, and then later woke up and walked out. Another older couple, after the movie was over, said "Well, I'm never going to trust another review in THAT newspaper! They made this sound like it would be GOOD!"
All of these things make me feel like Ghostboy's avatar
Quote from: MacGuffin
In the row behind me during "The Hours": "Everyone's kissing in this movie."
that was me.
Oh god...there were TONS during my time with Armageddon in film study! Fucking tons I tell ya! Seriously,. I seemed to be the only one that hated the movie. These kids were praising the hell out of it. This one might top them all though....
GIRL
"There's so many great lines in this movie."
TEACHER
"Oh yeah, it has a really great script."
I literally almost threw up after hearing this. I was sick to my stomach. I'm sorry...call me crazy but I think Armageddon is one of the worst fucking movies of all time!!!! The script is so bad, it's just sad. I write better than the 7 people who wrote the movie. Some of the lines were so bad, I couldn't stop digging my pen into my desk....
"Let me show you how we do things where I come from!"
"I will make 2 hundred million feet! I will make it! I will make it!"
"You were always...like a son to me."
"You wanna know why? Cause I'm a genius!" (NO BUSCEMI!!!)
WOW! I am feeling sick just quoting the damn movie so I really have to stop now. I can't belive the teacher really and truly loves the movie and even goes as far to call it one of the best scripts.... :cry:
I also hate how she always bitches when kids recommend we watch funny movies like Dumb and Dumber or Blazing Saddles...she always says they're "too immature". Armageddon is on the same level of maturity for christ's sake!!!! It's just not half as entertaining!!!
My current english teacher is definitely a competitor for "stupidest film related quotes" as well. He's an old, arrogant, pointless, boring, incredibly condescending fucking asshole who talks about film from time to time when he has nothing better to talk about. You know the type, he's a wannabe film snob...he doesn't know shit. That's right, he's not even a snob. At least snobs know a little bit about film. This guy knows dick about. The funny thing is...he thinks he knows IT ALL! He can get away with it too!!! That's the annoying part! None of these kids are going to aruge with him, they think he's right! How would they know!? Most of them don't even care! I have to literally bite my fucking tongue to keep from correcting him everytime he talks about film.
I'll never forget when he was trying to tell the class that cinematography was "the sequencing of shots" or "the plot twists" or some bullshit like that! I felt sick!!!! I mean, it's ok to be wrong but he just acts like he's so above everybody when he talks. He could at least be like, "I'm not sure, but I think cinematography is..." but no! He just says it like there's no way he is wrong.
Oh my god, I'll never forget the day he had us watching Star Wars...he had a philsophy of the trilogy that must be heard to be believed! I felt like I was on candid camera or something...seriously. I felt like the guy was reading a Kevin Smith script. The guy was serious! He thinks he knows all about film! He is preaching false film info to kids who already have no taste in film! It's just SCARY!!!! :shock:
God, I need to stop typing now. Great thread by the way, I loved reading all the replies.
Quote from: bonanzatazQuote from: MacGuffinIn the row behind me during "The Hours": "Everyone's kissing in this movie."
that was me.
Didn't know you were an overweight elderly woman.
Quote from: ebeaman69GIRL
"There's so many great lines in this movie."
TEACHER
"Oh yeah, it has a really great script."
It was written by 5 people.. seems inevitable... I think the threshhold is 2...
Quote from: ebeaman69he had a philsophy of the trilogy that must be heard to be believed!
oh please, share this philosophy with us.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI think the threshhold is 2...
well, maybe 3... but thats pushing it
a fellow named 'moviebuff' on another forum listed 2001 as one of the worst movies of all time. i questioned him as to why he made this decision and he responded with
i'm curious as to why you thought 2001 was one of the worst films of all time?
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Simple really because the film was boooooooooooooooooring as hell. Very few films have actually kept me as bored as a film that insisted on forcing me through a half hour of monkeys doing nothing interesting, before placing a bunch of shallow 2 dimensional characters at the screen, with no interesting characteristics and expected it all to grip me.
All of this and I'm expected to love it just because the Director was going on and on about Evolution, a theory a give no credance to anyway.
to protect this asshole, i won't divulge his email address.
please, whatever you do, don't email him an angry letter telling him how much he's incredibly wrong at the following address:
carllazarevic@whwn.com
under no circumstances should you do this. those of you who care about film or have even simply read this post shouldn't take 60 seconds to type a short email. no sir-ee.
hehehe. well, I didn't just send my email a second ago.
as for u beaman, where do you go to school? give u some of da best advice u will ever get- drop out. tomorrow.
Quote from: sphinxEvolution, a theory a give no credance to anyway.
oh right, it was all adam and eve.
We watched Run Lola Run in my English class. First comments: "It's in another language? The words move so fast I can't read them" So then my teacher switched it to the dubbed version. The came the inevitable: "How do they keep coming back to life?"
About Run Lola Run,
"Whats the point of this?"
and any movie with subtitles
"ill pass"
So I was hanging out with my girlfriend and a few friends of hers who I never liked anyway. They asked me to go out and rent a funny movie for them, so I rented American Movie which, in retrospect, is a movie that this crowd wouldn't understand unless someone farted and a car blew up.
Anyway, I turned it one, and about three minutes into it an asshole there said this immortal gem:
"You got a documentary? I though you said you were gonna get a movie!"
I'll say it again: A nuclear war is looking better every day.
Quote from: Duck SauceAbout Run Lola Run,
"Whats the point of this?"
shit, i hate it when someone says that about any movie. FUCK. as if movies are supposed to accomplish a task or something. christ.
and about
2001: a space odyssey, i got into a little debate about it with some bitch on another board last night. she called it an overrated piece of shit. i told her i think it's the greatest movie ever made [honest opinion] and that she probably didn't understand what was going on, to which she replied with "i know more about it than you ever will! i hated having to watch that for my class to study homeostasis and reflexivity blah blah", to which i replied with "wll if you get it, why do you think it's an overrated piece of shit? and please don't give me some simpleton remark like 'it was boring.'"
i don't know...she doesn't seem like a total idiot to me, but i felt sorry for her for trying to "get" the movie by using some fucking kafka/freud/marx/whatever logic, and to try and be competetive with me about understanding movies. the film's more simple than lots of people think, i suppose.
anyways, about widescreen....ugh. i've actually had arguments with people that firmly contest that widescreen cuts off the top and bottom of the film. fucking idiots. even after explaining to him and and even drawing the fucking thing on a napkin, he still wouldn't concede.
people who complain about black & white.
one more thing...and i think some of you might actually disagree with me with what i'm about to bitch about...but i don't like it when people say
gummo is the worst movie ever made. sure, you might hate it and call it stupid...but to say it's the worst movie ever...i just don't believe that. it could be the worst if it was made in a fashion of some sort like if it was "important", or otherwise filled with artistic integrity. and in my mind, it wasn't at all.
sometimes i feel people like/hate movies for all the wrong reasons.
/obvious
Quote from: CollinBullockAnyway, I turned it one, and about three minutes into it an asshole there said this immortal gem:
"You got a documentary? I though you said you were gonna get a movie!"
oh fucking christ...
anyways, i have an unusually happy story to add to this.
when i bought
american movie about a year ago, all my fucking friends loved it. for about two weeks straight, anyone that would come to my apartment told me to put on
american movie. everybody loved it so much, it was actually getting annoying.
still, great flick. :-D
Yeah, I ahve a lot of friends who like American Movie too. It just happens that my then girlfriend felt compelled to spend time with the stupidest fucking people she could possibly manage. The kind of guys who decide that they hate america because, well "System Of A Down told me that we deserved to have planes run into us" or whatever. Just real fucking wastes of egg and sperm.
So, these days, I just tend to try and limit the people I spend time around. Keeps me from climbing clocktowers with rifles...
Quote from: CollinBullockThe kind of guys who decide that they hate america because, well "System Of A Down told me that we deserved to have planes run into us" or whatever.
Those system of a down guys are crazy. The lead singer looks like Bin Laden and their songs are about "self righteous suicide." In the words of Jimmy, "I mean, come...on!"
Quote from: bonanzatazThose system of a down guys are crazy. The lead singer looks like Bin Laden and their songs are about "self righteous suicide." In the words of Jimmy, "I mean, come...on!"
Bin Laden? What? Because they both have beards? Thier beards aren't even similar.
I wouldn't call myself a huge System of a Down fan, but I don't think you know what you're talking about.
Sorry, forgot I wasn't allowed to poke fun... :roll:
sheesh!
I actually kind of like system of a down, but that's a fucked up thing to say that we deserved to have Sept. 11 happen to us AND have a beard.
Quote from: bonanzatazSorry, forgot I wasn't allowed to poke fun... :roll:
sheesh!
I actually kind of like system of a down, but that's a fucked up thing to say that we deserved to have Sept. 11 happen to us AND have a beard.
Well, I suppose that came off a little stronger than I meant it to, I just didn't really get how that guy looks like Bin Laden, it's like when everyone says that any fat old guy with a beard looks like Santa Clause... well, maybe not, Santa never really put out any videos... actually, I don't think they ever said specifically that we deserved what happened Sept. 11, they were just pointing out what we look like in others' eyes. But then again, they may have actually said that... if so, you're right, that's fucked up.
Well, my point wasn't really how right System Of A Down was, just that these fucking idiots who apparently decided that documnetaries couldn't be movies didn't have a brain of their own and would believe anything forcefed upon them by the liberal media.
But let's stay away from politics. This isn't a political topic here. It's about how fucking stupid the average moviegoer is, especially fucking teenagers.
I saw PDL for the first time at a sneak preview before it came out. So there was someone outside taking people's opinions as they left the theater. Bear in mind that the theater started out nearly full and was slightly less than half full by the end of the movie. Depressingly, it wasn't just old people walking out, there were a lot of young, college age people leaving too.
But anyway, some of the comments I heard as I was leaving included "I hated every second of that movie", "it was horrible", etc. Perhaps the stupidest comment I can remember is some girl that said "That was obviously a low budget movie". Like Adam Sandler's movies are normally ultra-expensive looking and full of special effects. (Well, maybe "Little Nicky", but that was his worst movie). I think maybe she was put off by a movie that was more concerned with human relationships, dialogue, and boring stuff like that, than something like "The Core". Sheesh.
Quote from: CollinBullockWell, my point wasn't really how right System Of A Down was, just that these fucking idiots who apparently decided that documnetaries couldn't be movies didn't have a brain of their own and would believe anything forcefed upon them by the liberal media.
But let's stay away from politics. This isn't a political topic here. It's about how fucking stupid the average moviegoer is, especially fucking teenagers.
Collin, this board goes off on tangents like a motherfucker. Every post (d)evolves into something grander than it was before. THERE'S NO USE TRYING TO STIFLE OUR PARENTHETICAL STATEMENTS!
Walking out of the gene hackman/keanu reeves movie "The Replacements" I hear this guy, about 30, exclaim to his friend "wow ...that is the best movie I have ever seen! How good was that?"
Granted the audience had a fun time with it, but boy is that a good rap considering American Football has zero popularity in this country. I said under my breath, "go see some more movies, wanker!"
when film makers say: "I can make a better movie than that" -- the why haven't they?
this isnt really a stupid response someone said to a movie, but i think its quite odd and must be heard:
one day, i was standing in "cast away" waiting for it to finish so i can clean it up (note: i worked there). there was about 10-15 minutes left till the end when this old man comes up to me, shows me his ticket for the next show and asks if its allright if he sits down. i tell him "but, youll see the ending of the movie." to which he replies "bah, doesnt matter." and he goes off to sit down and eats his popcorn while watching the ending before the rest of the movie.
Quote from: MacGuffinHey!! That was me!! Wow, what an coincidence!
somehow, deep down inside, i allready knew that
My mother and father.. my own flesh and blood.. told me that they hated "Pulp Fiction".. they had to turn it off after TEN MINUTES because "it didn't make any sense."
It's called NOT IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER..
Its people like him that make me not so surprised that animals eat their young. Plus, I think I must be adopted.
Quote from: CinephileMy mother and father.. my own flesh and blood.. told me that they hated "Pulp Fiction".. they had to turn it off after TEN MINUTES because "it didn't make any sense."
It's called NOT IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER..
Its people like him that make me not so surprised that animals eat their young. Plus, I think I must be adopted.
Luckily my Dad's favorite movie is Pulp Fiction, my mom's is The Lion King
My parents liked Pulp Fiction a lot, actually. Wouldn't let me see it until I was older though. Fuckers.
Quote from: CinephileMy mother and father.. my own flesh and blood.. told me that they hated "Pulp Fiction".. they had to turn it off after TEN MINUTES because "it didn't make any sense."
It's called NOT IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER..
Its people like him that make me not so surprised that animals eat their young. Plus, I think I must be adopted.
I have worse...my aunt and uncle on my reccomendation rented magnolia. They got it on VHS and ended up putting the second tape in first. They had no idea what was going on....
It's funny and true that the simple minded are always verbally expressing their opinions during movies. Not only are they incapable of thinking to themselves but when they are talking (constantly) it makes you wonder if they are capable of thinking at all.
Here's one that I'm constantly hearing when in discussion of Magnolia: "What's with the frogs?" A lot of people actually don't like the entire movie simply because of the frog scene confusing them. Interestingly enough that movie sort of does bare a defining line where people stand with their intelligence, it seems anyway.
Just recently I walked into the ending credits of "The Hours" late at night, and I heard the only two people in there say "It was a pretty good movie, huh?" "Yeah well this music is terrible though." I'm just amazed only 15 seconds in the theater I hear a stupid woman criticise Philip Glass.
How about when Britney Spears was quoted saying (either in rolling stone or premiere):
"The movies [at sundance] are wierd. You actually have to think about them."
apprently she couldnt take it and walked out on a few.
cant remember which magazine it was cuz i immediately tore it up cuz I was so pissed.
Just when I was thinking about how Britney Spears should be the new editor of Cashiers Du Cinemart
Quote from: CollinBullockMy parents liked Pulp Fiction a lot, actually. Wouldn't let me see it until I was older though. Fuckers.
The only movies I wasn't allowed to see until I was older were a Clockwork Orange and Boogie Nights (i snuck boogie nights when my mom wasn't looking though...hehehe).
This wasn't heard in a cinema nor is the stupidiest thing said but I read it in a review of Magnolia at the imdb, it actually made me laugh.
Summary: A CHINESE WATER TORTURE OF SHAMELESS PRETENSION
Review: 'Uggghhh! Man, did this movie suck...If someone wanted to torture me to death Clockwork-Orange style all they'd have to do is force me to watch this embarrassment back-to-back with Kubrick's humiliating final stinker 'Eyes Wide Shut.' I would beg them to put a bullet through my cranium.'
The review is pretty long, so I only posted a small part of it.
So, we were watching "Glory" in American History and we get to the end. SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN GLORY
Denzel and matt broderick die at the very end of the movie, to which a girl in the class responds, "i can't believe they died. they completely wasted the talent of those actors."
In my humanities class we watched part of Branagh's Henry V and one of the TAs said she didn't like his adaptation of Hamlet because it was set in a later time and some things were changed from the original. Who cares? Hamlet is an awesome movie. I dunno, I thought it was stupid.
A customer review from Amazon.com on Punch-Drunk Love
This customer rated it 1 out of 5
Adam Sandler is a talented actor. However, this was his worst movie by far. He has been type-cast into a raging maniac in one too many films. I mean really... what was the plot to this film? Adam Sandler destroys the men's bathroom - for no reason. He breaks things in his sisters house - for no reason. He is basically an anti social misfit. Yet, he owns his own business, maintains his temper with his employees, has a fudge pudding fetish and wears the same outfit for the entire movie. Why Punch Drunk Love? This movie should have been called "Sugar makes me Crazy!"
If this was suppose to be a break through performance for Adam Sandler... this film failed miserably. He needs an opportunity to act and display his overall talent (Remember Saturday Night Live). Not just a character that resorts to violence in EVERY film. Adam if your reading this. Sorry bro the truth hurts. You are a superstar - ask for better scripts.
What the fuck? There was so much wrong with that guy its not even worth mentioning. Break through performance.. ugh... yeah. I don't think he received a Golden Globe nod for "Happy Gilmore.".. "Sugar Makes Me Crazy!"? He was clearly watching another movie.
Its guys like this that I wish Barry Egan would smash his face with a sledgehammer.
Quote from: CinephileWhat the fuck? There was so much wrong with that guy its not even worth mentioning. Break through performance.. ugh... yeah. I don't think he received a Golden Globe nod for "Happy Gilmore.".. "Sugar Makes Me Crazy!"? He was clearly watching another movie.
Its guys like this that I wish Barry Egan would smash his face with a sledgehammer.
Damn right, brotha. I respect ya man, respect. Amazon reviews are the worst. Just be glad I'm not posting the reviews of Magnolia.
Quote from: Pedro the WombatDamn right, brotha. I respect ya man, respect. Amazon reviews are the worst. Just be glad I'm not posting the reviews of Magnolia.
ooh, back when it first came out i posted a really nasty review of magnolia. not REALLY nasty, but nasty enough to hurt some of your feelings.
hmmmm, then why r u here?
One time I was talking to a friend of mine about widescreen (this was before the age of the DVD). Apparently, he had taken a class where they had watched some VHS and it was in widescreen. He said the teacher told him that it's called the 'Director's Cut' when it 'has the bars'. I said it wasn't called the Director's cut because of the bars, the Director's Cut has added footage to make the cut of the film the director wanted. It's called 'letterbox' when it has the bars. He didn't believe me because 'that's what his teacher said'! I couldn't believe it!
I had another friend who tried to give some shit about Eyes Wide Shut. I said it was a great movie and he said it was a piece of shit and that the only reason Kubrick made it was as 'a final prank on the world'! I didn't even try to argue with him. I figured all hope was lost for this guy if he thought Kubrick spent the last years of his life making a film knowing it was a complete piece of shit and laughing the whole way through while wasting the time of everyone involved and dying after finishing it. I think they were just mad because it was slowly paced and they didn't get it.
Another thing that annoys me is when people like a good movie, but for the 'wrong' reasons. Like when people like Fight Club just because they fight or when people like American Histoy X just because he's a racist. That bugs the hell out of me! I also hate it when people like a movie simply because of the 'novelty' of it. Like when people like Pulp Fiction just because they talk about hamburgers and shit before they kill someone. Or they like A Clockwork Orange because it's violent but with 'funny' music.
I'm starting to agree with Collin's thoughts. "A nuclear war is looking better everyday!"
heheh. feel ur pain. u know what pisses me off? u know those annoying little shits that know a movie so well they feel the need to recite the entire fucking thing word for word? yesterday we were watching goodfellas and this little prick was pulling that shit for about 30 mins., showing no signs of giving up after much extreme verbal and physical abuse me and my buddies were giving him. During the joe pesci "why am I funny scene" it got so bad one of my friends threw a full beer can right at his head, resulting in a little blood and a lot of laughter from me.
I usually run into that scenario at the mention of Monty Python, specifically Monty Python and the Holy Grail. A couple of lines are okay but do we really have to hear the whole fuckin' movie?!?! It just gets old after a bit (not to mention makes the movie less funny because we've heard the lines more).
Quote from: life_boypeople like American Histoy X just because he's a racist
I fucking hate that....know of one person for sure that actually has admitted that....my biggest problem with people is the whole widescreen-full screen thing. I work for an evil corporation known as walmart and constantly run into this. A couple days ago there were some customers buying "8 mile", I pointed out to them that they were buying the Full Screen version because some people don't pay attention. To which the guy replies "it be better be fucking Full Screen or it's going right back to the shelf"...needless to say I didn't say anymore after that....
the version of "Big" walmart carries has a large sticker on it that says "Formatted to Fit your Screen (no black bars)"...thank you Penny Marshall for your eloquent explanation, and perpetuating the ruination of the movie consumer's mind
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the version of "Big" walmart carries has a large sticker on it that says "Formatted to Fit your Screen (no black bars)
Hehehe....thats fucking insane!!! People are ignorant! :lol:
Has anyone ever been accused of "just liking fucked up movies?"
Quote from: life_boyHas anyone ever been accused of "just liking fucked up movies?"
oh yeah, constantly
Quote from: Pedro the Wombat
I have worse...my aunt and uncle on my reccomendation rented magnolia. They got it on VHS and ended up putting the second tape in first. They had no idea what was going on....
That exact same thing happened to me with 'The Deerhunter' when I was about 12. I thought to myself, "wow! this fucking movie kicks ass, no opening credits, they just jump right into it."
Then came the end credits. :?
I posted something before about my parents telling me once that they didn't enjoy "Pulp Fiction" because it didn't make any sense 10 minutes into it.. and so they turned it off. (on a side note, "Memento" would've made their heads explode.)
Well I recently recalled something that a guy once said to me.. His favourite movies are the ones like "Spiderman" and "Lord of the Rings".. he said, "Foreign people can't make good movies."
I swear he said exactly that.. and I know he wants to work in film too, as a director or an editor. Sad. Very sad.
Check this Amazon "Adaptation" review out:
This movie could have been written by a film school student with no talent. The plot is trivially simple: a screenwriter can't think of a decent screenplay, so he writes a screenplay about himself trying to write a screenplay. Oh, and did I mention you get to see several scenes of Nicholas Cage masturbating? And a scene of Meryl Streep snorting hallucinogenic drugs? Why didn't anyone think of this sooner? Maybe because it's immature, gimmicky, and totally pointless. Cage and Streep have hit their respective low points.
Just for fun, I looked up that guy and he said this of "Chicago":
dark, cynical, "feel bad" cinema April 1, 2003
It's ironic that this film's tremendous success has been attributed to a craving for "feel-good" entertainment: in reality, this is a dark, grim, cynical downer of a movie. Chicago is devoid of a single likable character. The music is catchy, and the acting is solid throughout, but it's all in service of a story that didn't deserve to be sold.
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1. "feel bad" cinema and "feel-good" entertainment. Can I say that he's a "feel dumber" reviewer?
2. Whats his problem with Chicago's story?? Did he forget it was a screenplay based on a famous Broadway show? Or the better may be: Has this guy heard of Broadway?
3. A story that didn't deserve to be 'sold' was "I Spit On Your Grave". Not "Chicago"
This guy should be shot.
this reviewer from amazon.com gave PUNCH-DRUNK LOVE 2 out of 5 stars:
BIG disappointment! Look for older movies for good romance!, March 29, 2003
Reviewer: A customer from Cumming, Georgia
Sure Adam Sandler is okay is a different role than people are used to seeing him in, and yes, there are a few funny scenes with likeable characters. That is why I am giving this movie two stars rather than 1 (or 0) that I thought it deserved. How can people say this picture makes you feel good? It is really sad to see a person like the main character suffer so severely for making seemingly small mistakes. Just because he calls a "phone sex" place, he is blackmailed (and worse). There was very little justice for what he endured, and even though he gets himself together to make an impression on a woman, the fact that she couldn't tell what a mess he is doesn't speak highly of her. I thought this was a poorly presented story with pitiful personas in a terrible and dangerous setting. Maybe that is life in "the big city," but it sure isn't my idea of pleasurable movie viewing. Finally, what's with the occasional burst of colors flashing on the screen to poorly "fuse" or "mingle" the scenes together? Did the director actually think this was a clever way to combine different scenes smoothly? I only wish I could have felt satisfied after seeing this movie, but I felt like I needed to rent one of the classic romances like IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT or even modern movies like SLEEPLESS IN SEATLE that have moments of drama and comedy leading up to a romantic storyline, not the harsh realities found in an inner city with emotionally disturbed people!
Quote from: Cinephile3. A story that didn't deserve to be 'sold' was "I Spit On Your Grave". Not "Chicago"
Of the movies you could've picked, it had to be
that one. :yabbse-angry: :roll: :evil:
Okay well here's some people who deserve a lethal injection. Seriously.
This is straight from IMDB.. people who spoke negatively about "Citizen Kane".. I mean this is downright pathetic. You hope they were kidding but deep down, you know there are people in America THIS stupid. Enjoy.
"sigep_ohio
Date: 18 March 2003
Summary: Horrible
This film is so horribly boring and uninteresting. I sat through the worst over the top acting just so i could say i watched citizen kane. Frankly, i don't know what the big damn deal is about this film. it took orsen wells 2 hrs to say he wanted his childhood back? wow, that makes for a damn compelling character and story. "
"smontagriff
nc usa
Date: 20 January 2003
Summary: not so good in 2002
this film is so extremley overrated it made me sick. it goes to show movies are to often graded by there historical inportance then there current value it is all those top 10 or 100 lists are missleading to common people who dont care about that garbage. real modern cinema does not start intill rosemarys baby or psycho. King Kong or Wizard of oz seams more ahead of its time then citizen kane as well. at least they are fun to look at. But at least it was paced well and the narritive was good so i gave it 6 out of ten stars"
"silverzero
Dungarvan, Ireland
Date: 12 January 2003
Summary: Snooze
To all cynical snobs and/or critics around the world. Please excuse the evident bluntness of this unprofessional and gratuitously undetailed synopsis of Citizen Kane. (An epic???????!!!!!!!?????)
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(p.s. if you agree with me, please send me a private message)"
**this person also says "Memento" is 'an underrated gem. Truly, one of the most complex movies ever made.'**
"beth-48
Virginia, USA
Date: 26 December 2002
Summary: Greatest film of all time????
I sat down to watch Citizen Kane for the first time this summer, excitedly anticipating the "World's Greatest Film." Every review I've ever read on it was extremely supportive, and I couldn't wait to see this epic.
I was SO DISAPPOINTED.
The story was frustrating and the plot was predictable. The acting was average, and I didn't like the whole idea. It was so boring I was almost asleep halfway through the movie, and I never really got the point of the film. There is no message it sends, there is no point to the story. Rosebud is the name of his sled. How stupid and unmeaningful is that??!?!? This movie is a waste of 119 minutes and I don't see why it could be called an epic."
**this person also says the first "Lord of the Rings" was 'The BEST movie of all time!!'**
"Jackson Stephens
Provo, Utah, USA
Date: 14 December 2002
Summary: A major disappointment.
I saw this movie for the hype--"best movie ever"! Or so say a bunch of dusty ol' critics. Perhaps this movie was much better in its time, but today it is just boring and slow going. Watch it if you're interested in seeing a piece of history, but don't expect too much *entertainment*."
**this person also says "Memento" is 'One of the best movies ever!'**
Need I say more?
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: Cinephile3. A story that didn't deserve to be 'sold' was "I Spit On Your Grave". Not "Chicago"
Of the movies you could've picked, it had to be that one. :yabbse-angry: :roll: :evil:
Yeah? What's wrong with that?
Quote from: Cinephile3. A story that didn't deserve to be 'sold' was "I Spit On Your Grave".
wow there, buddy
Less than 10 minutes into Memento, my dad says
"Is this your idea of a movie?"
Quote from: Cinephilepeople who spoke negatively about "Citizen Kane".. I mean this is downright pathetic......
"This film is so horribly boring and uninteresting. I sat through the worst over the top acting just so i could say i watched citizen kane. Frankly, i don't know what the big damn deal is about this film. it took orsen wells 2 hrs to say he wanted his childhood back? wow, that makes for a damn compelling character and story. "
Actually, I kind of agree with that.
i actually really like citizen kane. but i hate it when people praise the film not because they like it, but because its "the greatest film ever made." not accusing anyone here of doing that (yet) just saying that for that reason, i dont mind people bitching out citizen kane
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: Cinephilepeople who spoke negatively about "Citizen Kane".. I mean this is downright pathetic......
"This film is so horribly boring and uninteresting. I sat through the worst over the top acting just so i could say i watched citizen kane. Frankly, i don't know what the big damn deal is about this film. it took orsen wells 2 hrs to say he wanted his childhood back? wow, that makes for a damn compelling character and story. "
Actually, I kind of agree with that.
JB, what do you 'kind of' agree with? the 'horribly boring and uninteresting' part? the 'worst over the top acting'? Or 'that makes for a damn compelling character and story'?
Quote from: cecil b. dementedi actually really like citizen kane. but i hate it when people praise the film not because they like it, but because its "the greatest film ever made." not accusing anyone here of doing that (yet) just saying that for that reason, i dont mind people bitching out citizen kane
I don't love it because the second title to the movie is "the greatest film ever made".. I am aware that almost every critic/director and their mothers say "Citizen Kane" is one the greatest films ever made, if not THE greatest. I feel its one of the greatest films ever made.. It would very tough for me to say its THE greatest. I know what you mean about how you don't mind because they're feeling their own feelings. I'm reminded of a quote for all the people that bash CK for what they feel it is: "Your intellect may be confused, but your emotions will never lie to you."
This thread has turned into "people who are stupid because they don't like the movies we like." Let's stick to real idiots here!
Hey, if you're calling me an idiot for bashing them, then sorry for being passionate about film, buddy. There's only so much ignorance I can take before I say, "What the fuck are you talking about?" What if I said "The Godfather" was one of the worst American movies ever made in the 70's. Sure, I guess I'd be entitled to my opinion but wouldn't the vast majority of people be thinking my head's in space?
That's what I'm saying.
Drop the attitude, Cinephile "buddy". You are becoming quick to be defensive. Ms. BonBon was not calling you an idiot. She was just stating that the thread has become a elitist/snob thread because people don't like the films we do, when the original intention was just stupid comments from people who didn't "get it".
Original intention? Sort of like a thread staying with its original topic?
I have to admit, I turned off Citizen Kane after a few minutes the first time I watched it. I was a lot younger and stupider then. Later I watched the entire thing and thought it was great, but I have to say I feel that the cinematography and controversy are a large part of why the film is so lauded. Don't get me wrong, I'm not down on the film, but I personally like Touch of Evil a little more.
I know what you mean.. I love "Touch of Evil" too.. but it has to be the Orson Welles version, either the one on DVD or the special edition on VHS
Some movies just have to grow on you somwhat. The first time I saw 2001 (about 3-4 years ago) I didn't know what the hell was going on. I knew it was well-done technically and that it was supposed to be a great movie, I just hadn't 'learned' yet. Now it is one of my favorite films. Most of my early Kubrick experience is like that. It wasn't until I went back and watched Dr. Strangelove again that I saw how truly funny it was. I didn't really like Clockwork Orange the first time I saw it. Of course, there's some movies you can't just watch once and say you've seen them.
I was the same way with "Dr. Strangelove" the first time I saw it... I thought it was boring. But I thought, "I know I've got to be tired. Because that's Peter Sellers. That's George C. Scott. And that guy just shot a Coke machine and Coke got shot back at him."
Then I watched it not long after.. watching Scott closely and I just loved the acting from him and everybody else. It's oh so very funny once you really put it into perspective of the time period it was made in.
And I don't think its possible for somebody to completely 'get' "2001" on a first viewing. Infact I think its impossible. There's just Sso much depth to it that its phenomenal how much you look back on it and reflect on new things.
asmittedly, i think citizen kane is slow & boring. the only thing i can give it credit for is being revolutionary.
and yeah, i fucking hate people who like movies for the wrong reasons. like, natural born killers because of it's violence, or boogie nights because rollergirl os hot.
on another board, some douchebag listed some "awesome movies", with american history x, romper stomper, and made in britain listed consecutively. i have no proof, but to me, it was sort of obvious that any skinhead movie is inherently "cool" to him.
idiot.
when my dad got his dvd player, he exclamed "oh cool, theres a zoom-in option so you can get rid of those pesky black bars." and everytime someone gets a dvd player or goes to friends house who has one, he always checks to see if it can zoom-in then proudly explains that its an option to get rid of the black bars
:shock: Good god.
I hope at least SOMEONE has replied with "uhh....... thanks..."
Quote from: CinephileHey, if you're calling me an idiot for bashing them, then sorry for being passionate about film, buddy. There's only so much ignorance I can take before I say, "What the fuck are you talking about?"
Then brace yourself...
Quote from: CinephileJB, what do you 'kind of' agree with? the 'horribly boring and uninteresting' part? the 'worst over the top acting'? Or 'that makes for a damn compelling character and story'?
Basically all of that. I thought Welles' performance in Citizen Kane was ridiculous, and I didn't believe one moment of it. He was great in The Third Man.. it's not that I think he's a bad actor. Of course the movie was revolutionary, probably just as much as some Kubrick movies, but I don't really like it.... and I'm not sure how it's possible to be boring and over the top at the same time, but Citizen Kane accomplishes that...
Now, instead of specifics, let's just list all the different things that MANY people do that piss us off:
1. Think that widescreen is awful because, god forbid, you have to look a LITTLE closer to see what the director actually fucking INTENDED you to see.
2. Saying lines out of movies to explain why they like it. You ask someone "Why did you like the Waterboy" the person responds (in obnoxious Sandler voice): "I am bobby bouche!!!". What? Yeah, you can say what you just heard someone else say? I know severly retarded people who can do that to, and they eat their own shit! Come up with something better goddamn it!
3. Like really good movies, without at ALL understanding them. I know lots of REALLY stupid people who could never get the subtext of Fight Club, yet they love it and watch it often? Why? My theory is that they don't get that the movies makes fun of them, those that feel a need to define their masculnity through the celebration of violence.
4. People who won't watch subtitled movies. Why? You're fucking illeterate? Well, okay. I think Boat Trip is still playing in some theatres, go enjoy that.
5. Film snobs refuse to lik movies that they don't view as "classy". Unless it's four hour chinese documentary about mongolian sheep herders, it's not worth their time. Listen folks, I like teh decaogue, you like the decalogue, we all like teh fucking decalouge. Now come sit down and watch Tommy Boy. It's funny. Oh yeah, forgot, you have a stick up your ass, and you can't enjoy anything funny. Well, allright, go watch another Bergman movie.
Quote from: CollinBullockNow come sit down and watch Tommy Boy. It's funny. Oh yeah, forgot, you have a stick up your ass, and you can't enjoy anything funny. Well, allright, go watch another Bergman movie.
I'm really picky with comedies... maybe I'm just paranoid...
I saw that sheep herding movie, and it wasn't very good
i'm really lenient with my comedies. i LOVE sorority boys.
Quote from: bonanzatazi'm really lenient with my comedies. i LOVE sorority boys.
AHH! :shock:
this stick is seriously uncomfortable
Quote from: bonanzatazi'm really lenient with my comedies. i LOVE sorority boys.
You are hereby banned from this forum.
The Mongolian sheep herders documentary was awesome. Ntocp Mxhya is a genius.
Just because he likes bad movies doesn't mean he thinks they're good.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanJust because he likes bad movies doesn't mean he thinks they're good.
Good point.
Quote from: CollinBullock
Yeah, you can say what you just heard someone else say? I know severly retarded people who can do that to, and they eat their own shit!
So.. wait.. did you just say you know several people that eat their own shit? Astounding. I don't even know
one. Tell me something - do you talk to these retarded people at all? If so, does it annoy you because their breath smells like shit? Or do you keep your distance? Also, do you have any deeper respect for Divine since you know these people? Just asking.
Sorry, I'm a little late here, but I've got some classic quotes:
of Magnolia: "Too many shots were out of focus"
-some chick at my film school
of Boogie Nights: "It was just a porno"
-another chick (same quote was said for Eyes Wide Shut)
of One Hour Photo: "Robin Williams was not believable" (???)
-coworker
of Titanic: "I think that was the best movie ever made"
- my Aunt
of Three Kings: "The director didn't know what kind of film he wanted to make. It had, like, three different looks." (I swear to God this is true!!)
- another film school moron
Oh how I hate people.
Long Way Down (One Last Thing)...
I should also mention that another Auntie & Uncle shut Magnolia off after 20 min, said it was the worst movie they'd ever seen, and then exclaimed to me (because I told them to watch it) that "we thought you were an intelligent person...".
Their reasons for not liking it: "regular people don't swear that much".
This from my Uncle, whose favorite movie is The Last Detail.
For fucks sake...
No, it doesn't bother me that their breath smells. I just usually don't speak to them. I just keep them in their cages and make sure they have a steady supply of Paul W. Anderson movies and nu metal cd's.
ahem...
paul ws anderson!
by the way, jb, thank you for backing me up, and exactly!
Quote from: CollinBullockNo, it doesn't bother me that their breath smells. I just usually don't speak to them. I just keep them in their cages and make sure they have a steady supply of Paul W. Anderson movies and nu metal cd's.
You're quite vicious with those little retards. Ah well, at least they don't starve, right?
I think the worst is when you show someone a movie (magnolia, PDL) and the appear to enjoy it, gasp, laugh, etc...Then they turn around and tell people it was weird, or it sucked, or both. But I could swear they were laughing.
when I hear someone say in a negative way that a film was "weird", I always turn around and ask, "Is it because it wasn't as conventional as you wanted it to be?"
I either get "yeah, it wasn't" or "huh?"
Quote from: Cinephilewhen I hear someone say in a negative way that a film was "weird", I always turn around and ask, "Is it because it wasn't as conventional as you wanted it to be?"
I either get "yeah, it wasn't" or "huh?"
No need to be rude.
Gay guy talking about Tom Cruise and Vanilla Sky :
Quote
As for Cruise...well...he can't act. He's truly pathetic in this film...it was almost embarrassing to watch. His character comes off as a total blank because Cruise doesn't know how to play it. The guy has just two facial expressions--grinning or having a slack-jawed "I'm stupid" expression on his face. Hopeless. He's ugly too. Also, he's playing a 32 year old here. Come on!!!! Cruise is 39 and looks it!
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I can accept many valid points why lots of people did not enjoy Vanilla Sky, as many of my friends have posed them to me, but this guy is something else. Its bad enough to say he just "cant act" , but to try and use "he's ugly" as a valid critique point is ...well ridiculous.
:roll:
i was once watching magnolia, and my sister walked in, saw the tom cruise introduction, where we first see him at the seminar, walked away, then came back and saw donnie smith telling brad he loved him, walked away, then saw the wise up sequence, walked away, then came back for the frog rain - at which point she said "this movie makes absolutely no sense! why do you watch this shit?!", and i believe the next night she came in and was raving about how good 'the hot chick' was. hmmm....maybe i'm adopted....
my dad also once said that he hated pulp fiction because it was all about drugs and went from scene to scene making no sense - but he also has the attention span of a - oh wait, did i mention about halfway through watching 'fiddler on the roof' he said "what, are they jewish or something?"
nothing against my family though.......
a fellow student actually said this to my film teacher after a screening of adaptation
"the end of the film almost seems like what he was trying to avoid in the beginning"
some guy in the message boards on imdb is trying to convince everyone that citizen kane isn't nearly as revolutionary as lotr: the two towers.
a guy i worked with once asked me what my favorite movie was and upon hearing the godfather as my response he said,
"i hate people who just like movies because they are old. movies that come out now are just as good as movies that came out then."
i used to work at blockbuster and some guy returned 2001 because the tape got messed up. I checked the tape in the blockbuster vcr and it was at the psychadelic space warp sequence and the guy just didn't understand.
a co-worker of mine said this to someone renting pay it forward, sixth sense, and memento respectively
SPOILERS
"it's ok. i was just surprised that they killed the kid at the end."
"it took me a few times seeing this movie to realize that bruce willis's character is dead the whole time"
"the story is ok, but the editing is really bad."
i am fairly certain none of the customers had seen the films they were renting.
I have a rule with girlfriends. When I first start dating them, I show them John Woo's "The Killer".
The first girlfriend I had, she made me turn it off after she realized it has subtitles. If she hadn't have had sex with me later that evening, it would have been all over.
The last girlfriend I showed to, she turned to me and said "Chow Yun Fat is hot". I agreed with her.
I've got a couple:
some guy on imdb said: "the unbearable lightness of being is the worst movie of all time! it's a three-hour epic about unfaithfulness"
and this was a review on UNDERGROUND by some american critic:"it's a total waste of time! there is no need to make a film about how stupid eastern-european people are".
that's funny
CollinBullock,
Your last post reminded me of some characters in the movie, "Diner", but in a good charming way though there are some questions of sanity that must be asked.
Made me laugh though, which these days on this board is rare.
~rougerum
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetMade me laugh though, which these days on this board is rare.
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Boo hoo, you're breaking my heart.
I once had a guy complain to me at a movie theatre because the boom kept coming into the shot. He was all mad at us.
After looking in three different video stores for Reservoir Dogs, my last choice was to go to this kinda new one that people never go to. I asked the shop owner if he had it and he said:
(note: this guy never gets people in his shop and probably hadn't had any previous human interaction in the last 2 decades).
"No...it was stolen. 15 videos were stolen...by the gangster boys around here...because that movie is about drugs, swearing, drugs, swearing, drugs, drugs, drugs, swearing...
then he just went on about bs. so i asked him for 'jackie brown' and this guy has obviously never heard of it before. he finds the video, reads the back of it and "hmmm..."s me...
...so to cut through all the shit i just wrote, who the fuck still says "Hmm..." anymore?!
Quote from: RecceI once had a guy complain to me at a movie theatre because the boom kept coming into the shot. He was all mad at us.
that's because it was the projectionist's fault. he fucked up the framing.
All right, I didn't like Final Destination 2, and neither did my friend Tara, but I didn't like her reasoning:
"It looked like an independent film."
Another independent related comment comes from somebody I know named RJ, who thinks to appear smart, he can only like independent movies. He saw Adaptation, praising it, but then said it was pure shit when he found out it was produced by Columbia Pictures.
I don't remember what movie this one kid at my school was talking about, but he was bragging how he'd seen a black and white movie from the 40s. The stupid kids around him responded with, "Whoa" and "That's fuckin' weird."
When I recommended Amelie to some friends, they had to know what country it was from (they'd already known it was foreign). When I told them, the response was: "I'm not seeing that. France is gay."
Then this one doesn't particularly relate to any movie. When my friend and I were on our way home from school, we passed the local theatre. On April 25, they're going to start showing Cabaret (probably in light of Chicago's success). I said that I hope they start showing old movies, because being 15, there are tons of old movies I'd love to experience on the big screen.
From there, we got to talking about movie theatres, old movie theatres, what the movie-going experience was like decades ago, and he said, "Yeah, you know, they used to show documentaries in theatres."
Quote from: BrainSushiAnother independent related comment comes from somebody I know named RJ, who thinks to appear smart, he can only like independent movies. He saw Adaptation, praising it, but then said it was pure shit when he found out it was produced by Columbia Pictures.
Tell him it was
only distributed by Columbia and see if he changes his mind back.
This are not my opinions but idoits that i have encountered
*The Killer wasn't that violent.
*Isn't Streetcar named Desire, the one with Whoopie Goldberg
*Godfather II was horrible because it didnt make any sense
*I said lets watch Magnolia
the idiot said "I dont wanna watch a movie about a stupid flower"
The Royal Tenebaums was the most boringest movie ever!
I Said Lets watch Apocalypse Now Redux
The Idiot said "My God I Hate Charlie Sheen!"
Quote from: SoNowThenSorry, I'm a little late here, but I've got some classic quotes:
of Magnolia: "Too many shots were out of focus"
-some chick at my film school
of Three Kings: "The director didn't know what kind of film he wanted to make. It had, like, three different looks." (I swear to God this is true!!)
- another film school moron
.
what film school is this?
some community college, i'm guessin.
fuck community college. that could be any film school.
~rougerum
the worst thing is that people like them are attending "film school" (i dont care which kind) and im still stuck here in a "Telecommunications" major (it does include TV/Film production, but as a minor)
a friend of mine once told me, "what's so great about a director? Actors do most of the work." :shock:
this gave me the idea to ask my friend from school what she thought of the aussie movie "two hands". personally liked it, but this is what she had to say about it:
--- me :
u don't like aussie films?
her:
the only one i like is Pricilla queen of the desert
--- me :
u seen 2 hands?
her:
yes
didn't like it
--- me:
y not?
her:
i just didn't
--- me:
lool
her:
i don't noe why, i didn't sit there analysing the entire thing
--- me:
usually u know y u dun like something
her:
i just didn't like that one
her:
i don't really like Brian Brown, he was in that wasn't he?
her:
that's probably why i didn't like it
her:
anywho...
I need to find new friends. thats y i come here :-D
Quote from: Tiffthis gave me the idea to ask my friend from school what she thought of the aussie movie "two hands". personally liked it, but this is what she had to say about it:
--- me :
u don't like aussie films?
her:
the only one i like is Pricilla queen of the desert
--- me :
u seen 2 hands?
her:
yes
didn't like it
--- me:
y not?
her:
i just didn't
--- me:
lool
her:
i don't noe why, i didn't sit there analysing the entire thing
--- me:
usually u know y u dun like something
her:
i just didn't like that one
her:
i don't really like Brian Brown, he was in that wasn't he?
her:
that's probably why i didn't like it
her:
anywho...
I need to find new friends. thats y i come here :-D
I'd be glad to be your friend, as long as you clean up your act and cure yourself of that addiction of yours.
I would LIETRALLY punch anyone who told me, to my face, that directors get too much credit because actors do most of the work.
Quote from: CollinBullockI would LIETRALLY punch anyone who told me, to my face, that directors get too much credit because actors do most of the work.
youre a bad ass
Quote from: CollinBullockI would LIETRALLY punch anyone who told me, to my face, that directors get too much credit because actors do most of the work.
how do you
not literally punch someone. you do or you don't...am i wrong?
Quote from: Pedro the WombatQuote from: CollinBullockI would LIETRALLY punch anyone who told me, to my face, that directors get too much credit because actors do most of the work.
how do you not literally punch someone. you do or you don't...am i wrong?
right, you're bloody well right, you've gotta bloody right to say
I'm a hardcore badass.
Rap metal expresses my true feelings...
A bunch of old ladies came out of What a Girl Wants saying to us "It was just so cute! There was no bad language or violence! It was perfect!" One question remains: What is keeping these 70 year old hags from blowing their brains out?
A few days ago a young couple came up to the ticket booth & asked a co worker if Anger Management "has any homosexuality in it". It's good to know I'm surrounded by biggots in this ridiculous city. Good thing they didn't ask me a stupid question like that.
Quote from: Bill MaplewoodA bunch of old ladies came out of What a Girl Wants saying to us "It was just so cute! There was no bad language or violence! It was perfect!" One question remains: What is keeping these 70 year old hags from blowing their brains out?
As if the absence of bad language or violence was inherently a virtue. People like this annoy me too.
QuoteA few days ago a young couple came up to the ticket booth & asked a co worker if Anger Management "has any homosexuality in it". It's good to know I'm surrounded by biggots in this ridiculous city. Good thing they didn't ask me a stupid question like that.
"Does Anger Management have redheads in it? I just can't stand them!"
Quote from: RaviAs if the absence of bad language or violence was inherently a virtue. People like this annoy me too.
man oh man, they are neverending.. i cant even remember how many people have come out of Anger Management wanting their money back due to the "language & nature of the film"...apparently the movie is rated pg-13. whatever, idiots.. i did not like anger management myself at all but it's very close minded & unintelligent to leave a movie without even trying to understand it. i remember having an argument with my assistant manager about movies like that "ruining society". he thinks it's "poor taste & bad virtues" displayed on tv and in movies that disrupt society, when in actuality it's usually IGNORANCE, that my assistant manager has displayed so wonderfully, that is the cause of fuckups. and im not talking about poverty & drug addiction..i'm talking about the cause of uncultured arrogant pricks in a society that cause extreme rightwing, racism! i live in a town full of them
Quote from: ProgWRXthe worst thing is that people like them are attending "film school" (i dont care which kind) and im still stuck here in a "Telecommunications" major (it does include TV/Film production, but as a minor)
i'm doing the same thing. i love it when friends/relatives ask me what my major is and I say telecommunications and they say "Now what is that exactly?" and I say "I'm not sure exactly."
The first time I saw PDL I won tickets from a top 40 teen pop radio station. They were giving away tickets all week, so I forced myself to listen. I swear the ads went like this, "Call now far a chance to see the new Adam Sandler flick Punch Drunk Love! I know you can't pass up Adam Sandler!" Needless to say the entire theater was full of 17 year olds who were coming to see Billy Madison 2. You can imagine the things I heard afterwards.
After I saw Royal Tenenbaums the man next to me called it the worst movie he had ever seen.
I tried to get one of my friends to watch rebel without a cause and he said he didn't want to watch it. I asked, "Why, because its old?" He replied, "Well...yeah."
Yet another friend once said to me, " I hate it when new movies are in black and white. I can handle old movies in b & w because they didn't have color, but I can't stand when new movies try to be artsy."
I need new friends.
I overheard someone talking the other day about some guy who doesn't watch films more than once because he already knows what's going to happen.
Quote from: RaviI overheard someone talking the other day about some guy who doesn't watch films more than once because he already knows what's going to happen.
COUGH
Pauline Kael COUGH
My best friend is famous for saying that "American Beauty has absolutely no redeeming value" and he still rants about being pissed off for giving $7.50 to see it.
Pretty dumb statement in my book.
Quote from: XixaxMy best friend is famous for saying that "American Beauty has absolutely no redeeming value" and he still rants about being pissed off for giving $7.50 to see it.
Pretty dumb statement in my book.
that's pretty much of an opposing opinion, not really a dumb statement. maybe if you ask him
why he thinks that way, he'll spit out the good stuff.
I hate it when people think because they liked "American Beauty" they are film buffs, and like edgy movies.
Quote from: CollinBullockI hate it when people think because they liked "American Beauty" they are film buffs, and like edgy movies.
who gives a flying fuck. time is better wasted on things of consequence. is it any different than someone watching eraserhead and thinking they're film buffs and like edgy movies? who really gives a shit.
Quote from: RaviI overheard someone talking the other day about some guy who doesn't watch films more than once because he already knows what's going to happen.
Oh god, I hate people like that. I just do not fucking get the logic of that. There are so many movies that I couldn't live without watching over and over again...it's like therapy.
some chicks (hot chicks) was watchin braveheart the other day, and i strolled in all cool and stuff, and when the ending credits came one of them went "wait, how could mel gibson direct the movie if he was in it?" i laughed.
This isn't really about a specific film, but it kind of involves films, and I wanted to post it here because I just couldn't believe my ears when I heard this.
I'm sitting right behind a guy and a girl in my cinematography class this morning and the guy really knows his shit. He rattled off a bunch of info on cameras and lenses and you can tell he's had more experience with shooting film than anyone in the class.
After the guy stopped talking, I overheard the girl in back of me say this:
GIRL
How do you know all that stuff?
GUY
Oh you know, I've shot some stuff and I've been reading a lot about different cameras.
GIRL
WOW, you're really taking this whole film school thing seriously? Thats amazing. That's Soooooo cool!
Quote from: EL__SCORCHO
After the guy stopped talking, I overheard the girl in back of me say this:
GIRL
How do you know all that stuff?
GUY
Oh you know, I've shot some stuff and I've been reading a lot about different cameras.
GIRL
WOW, you're really taking this whole film school thing seriously? Thats amazing. That's Soooooo cool!
Ohhhhhhh man :evil: :evil: :evil: What I wouldnt do to slap that bitch !!!! Here I am WISHING I were taking cinematography classes and UGHHHHHH :evil: :evil: :evil:
I absolutely can't tolerate it when people use the word "weird" to describe a film they didn't like (or did, for that matter). That word is completely useless. It means nothing. It implies that there's one sort of film everyone agrees is standard and "normal," and then there's everything else. It's truly sub-mental.
Very true Godardian. I think the worst response I've ever encountered was the end of PDL. As soon as those beautiful colors started flowing to the waltzes my ears were met with a barage of "That was the worst movie I've ever seen!" "Oh my god, thank Jesus it's over!" And I just sit there wanting to jump up in the row behind me and weild an axe. Oh.... only if people could understand and become more intelligent on these matters... aghhh the aggrivation.
about PDL: "Wasn't that the gayest comedy you've ever seen?"
Quote from: ProgWRXOhhhhhhh man :evil: :evil: :evil: What I wouldnt do to slap that bitch !!!! Here I am WISHING I were taking cinematography classes and UGHHHHHH :evil: :evil: :evil:
and if you were, youd be taking cinematography classes but youd also be stuck with those people
snaporaz would probably agree with me when i say i hate when people say they love movies specifically because the movie was a "mindfuck!"
Quote from: dufresnesnaporaz would probably agree with me when i say i hate when people say they love movies specifically because the movie was a "mindfuck!"
i'm not snaporaz but i'll agree with u. most everyone i know who liked Being John Malkovich said it was "trippy".
i hate that word.
Donnie Darko was the greatest movie ever made because it was a mindfuck!
Quote from: cecil b. dementedQuote from: ProgWRXOhhhhhhh man :evil: :evil: :evil: What I wouldnt do to slap that bitch !!!! Here I am WISHING I were taking cinematography classes and UGHHHHHH :evil: :evil: :evil:
and if you were, youd be taking cinematography classes but youd also be stuck with those people
hahahahahahaahahahaha
.."the only good thing is this movie was the sex scene".-mulholland drive
Recently I was with a friend of mine in the theatre and we watched "2 Fast 2 Furious". And at the end he said: "Wow, the film has a good story and a very good screenwriting".
:x
whoop his ass spike.
I still think "2 Fast" was one of the better action popcorn flicks of the summer. Hell of a lot better than Bad Boys 2, Tomb Raider 2 and Charlie's Angels 2.
Heard the first day in my media criticism class after we watched Citizen Kane:
"Any Keanu Reeves movie would be acceptable."
"Street Fighter - now that was an instant classic."
Now, I don't hate Street Fighter nearly as much as most people. To me, it's more it's camp value that makes it so great. But they're talking about it like the guy who said 2 Fast 2 Furious was great writing. Even if it may have been a good popcorn flick, great writing it didn't have.
(Grosse?) Point Blank they mentioned loving.
Seven Years in Tibet they said, trying to channel Gene Shalit, "felt like seven years."
They also had no clue what the fuck was up with that cockatiel (sp?) in Citizen Kane after Susan leaves Charles.
And needless to say, a week later, Sunset Boulevard didn't go over very well with most of the audience, either.
oh i heard something really stupid :yabbse-angry:
my friend and me went to a Japanese theater to watch RASHOMON you know, the master piece of Akira Kurosawa (a god in my opinion) well the film finished and a girl next to us was with her boyfriend and he asked to her :
so?
and she said
well boring but good to waste the time
can you believe it :yabbse-angry: :yabbse-angry: :yabbse-angry: ??????????????????????
my friend and me wanted to kill her but we didn't (25 five years on jale for good behaviour)
Saw this on another message board i visit :
(the guy is talking about Punch Drunk Love)
QuoteOk. I just wasted $3.50 on this peice of crap movie. I heard from numerous people (some here on this board) that said it was good movie.
You f'in liars! This was the slowest, most non-point movie I've ever seen. If you're thinking about seeing this movie, don't!
[/b]
:lol:
Quote from: Vile5
so?
and she said
well boring but good to waste the time
can you believe it :yabbse-angry: :yabbse-angry: :yabbse-angry: ??????????????????????
my friend and me wanted to kill her but we didn't (25 five years on jale for good behaviour)
Don't forget one thing...social pressure. When I took a class called something like Methodology in Humanities (Méthodologie en Sciences Humaines in french :) ) in college, we had to make a psychology experiment. We chose to test social pressure. We were 4 people from the team and one guy's father. He was to find a person, bring him/her to a local we were in and pretend this was new drink that they were trying. We made them taste salted cold water. The guy giving the test was dressed in a suit, was like 45, very credible. He gave it to the team first, and we all said things like : 'Not bad' or 'Yeah I'd buy it'. 7 times out of nine, the other person said something in the lines of : 'Yeah, pretty good'
Pathetic but true.
Quote from: Pas RapportQuote from: Vile5
so?
and she said
well boring but good to waste the time
can you believe it :yabbse-angry: :yabbse-angry: :yabbse-angry: ??????????????????????
my friend and me wanted to kill her but we didn't (25 five years on jale for good behaviour)
Don't forget one thing...social pressure. When I took a class called something like Methodology in Humanities (Méthodologie en Sciences Humaines in french :) ) in college, we had to make a psychology experiment. We chose to test social pressure. We were 4 people from the team and one guy's father. He was to find a person, bring him/her to a local we were in and pretend this was new drink that they were trying. We made them taste salted cold water. The guy giving the test was dressed in a suit, was like 45, very credible. He gave it to the team first, and we all said things like : 'Not bad' or 'Yeah I'd buy it'. 7 times out of nine, the other person said something in the lines of : 'Yeah, pretty good'
Pathetic but true.
Psychology is great...did you ever check out asch's conformity experiments (http://www.cultsock.ndirect.co.uk/MUHome/cshtml/socinf/conform.html)?
While on the subject of psych.....does anyone know where I could get a copy of Milgram's Obedience experiment or the Stanford Prison Experiment for a
reasonable price? Most places I look it's like at least 100 dollars.
Quote from: Pas RapportDon't forget one thing...social pressure. When I took a class called something like Methodology in Humanities (Méthodologie en Sciences Humaines in french :) ) in college, we had to make a psychology experiment. We chose to test social pressure. We were 4 people from the team and one guy's father. He was to find a person, bring him/her to a local we were in and pretend this was new drink that they were trying. We made them taste salted cold water. The guy giving the test was dressed in a suit, was like 45, very credible. He gave it to the team first, and we all said things like : 'Not bad' or 'Yeah I'd buy it'. 7 times out of nine, the other person said something in the lines of : 'Yeah, pretty good'
Pathetic but true.
reminds me of the Institute For Finding Out Obvious Things.
I once heard a girl in my class say that Moulin Rouge was the gayest movie ever...obviously not a romantic.
Quote from: A Fire InsideI once heard a girl in my class say that Moulin Rouge was the gayest movie ever...obviously not a romantic.
you must be gay if you're a guy with that avatar.
hehe. sorry. i'm just venting from having to deal with my girlfriend's obssession with that crap bubblegum-punk band. and how she fucking refers to him by his first name....ugh.
Quote from: godardianI absolutely can't tolerate it when people use the word "weird" to describe a film they didn't like (or did, for that matter). That word is completely useless. It means nothing. It implies that there's one sort of film everyone agrees is standard and "normal," and then there's everything else. It's truly sub-mental.
i know what you're talking about. i almost always have a good way of articulating my thoughts on a film, but every now and then, i can find a movie
wierd or
boring.
these words are used to describe very vague feelings on pictures that are usually reserved to be thought by the ignorant, but i feel that with a small handfull of movies, it holds true.
now if you want to call me sub-mental, or you want to say that there are movies that my brain can't handle...well then go fuck yourself.
Kid walking out of theatre: "Freddy vs. Jason is the best movie so far this year."
Quote from: LeatherfaceKid walking out of theatre: "Freddy vs. Jason is the best movie so far this year."
I tought it was one of the most entertaining actually.
Quote from: A Fire InsideI once heard a girl in my class say that Moulin Rouge was the gayest movie ever...obviously not a romantic.
moulin rouge IS the gayest movie ever. it even passes vanilla sky.
"bubblegum punk!?!?" have you ever listened to Answer that and Stay Fashionable or Very Proud of Ya?
And by the way, I am very much straight.
Quote from: phil marloweQuote from: A Fire InsideI once heard a girl in my class say that Moulin Rouge was the gayest movie ever...obviously not a romantic.
moulin rouge IS the gayest movie ever. it even passes vanilla sky.
Both are very gay indeed ... but I find nothing to be gayer than Birdge of the Madison County or something like that, with Clint Eastwood and Meryl Streep, you know.
Quote from: A Fire Inside"bubblegum punk!?!?" have you ever listened to Answer that and Stay Fashionable or Very Proud of Ya?
And by the way, I am very much straight.
he's right tho. be prepared to get a new av in less than a year when no one remembers who AFI is, i can't believe they won that MTV2 award not that it's worth anything but i guess it's typical to sabotage MTV2's audience like that.
i am not looking forward to seeing that ugly mug again when reading ur reply. :(
I like AFI. They're not punk, but there's some solid stuff on that CD
Yeah... AFI is kind of a guilty pleasure for me.
I'm with Trem on this one. There are some good songs on that album that could not be called "bubblegum punk"... It's one of those things where the radio/video song doesn't really show what the album is really like.
I really don't care if their on MTV or not, infact I would prefer if they werent. I love all of the music that AFI makes, not JUST the new stuff.
Did you know that the band was formed back in 1991 and is only recently getting major props outside the EBHC scene. Also AFI fans are unlike any other fans, they are hardcore fanatics. Many have tats tributing the band, and you should just check out the number of people that frequent their message board. I seriously If doubt my av will change, because frankly they are still my favorite band, and they would have to fuck up seriously to change that.
Quote from: Pas RapportQuote from: LeatherfaceKid walking out of theatre: "Freddy vs. Jason is the best movie so far this year."
I tought it was one of the most entertaining actually.
agree
Quote from: A Fire InsideAlso AFI fans are unlike any other fans, they are hardcore fanatics. Many have tats tributing the band.
god...if i only knew. how fucking cool.
Totally fucking cool.
I've still got my "NKOTB 4-Ever" tatoo on my arm from back in the day. Those guys were so dreamy.
After magnolia ended this girl in front of me said to her boyfriend:
I'm gonna stay sit till the end of the credits , maybe the answer (for the frogs) will appear...it must be a trick from the director"
Quote from: AKAfter magnolia ended this girl in front of me said to her boyfriend:
I'm gonna stay sit till the end of the credits , maybe the answer (for the frogs) will appear...it must be a trick from the director"
This is more cute than stupid ;-)
I nearly got in a bar fight for contradicting my waitress and well the rest of the bar on their view that in Reloaded, Zion was destroyed by the machines. I attempted to explain that it was only the counteroffensive that was destroyed thanks to a poorly timed EMP. The bar began to boo me once my waitress stood up and proclaimed my ignorance. At which point I stood up and told them all that in fact the world was round and that much to their dismay the sun does not revolve around the earth. It was about then that some large ludditic goons had begun to make their way towards me in a 3 stoogesque manner grabbing pool cues etc. I took my bow and kindly thanked them all for their time and went out the kitchen.
I would say that you must have been in some kind of geek bar if they all got that passionate about The Matrix, however, I have been in a very similar situation where complete strangers were attacking me, trying to tell me that Kevin Spacey's character in Seven did not get what he wanted in the end... did not win, did not, in fact, finish his killing spree.
I had to leave.
Quote from: Pas RapportThis is more cute than stupid ;-)
It's between cute and stupid.... just SILLY
But still pissed me off the fact she talked, went out during the movie and just started to pay attention after the rain of frogs ...
I've heard too many people say Fight Club is the best movie ever made and that Kevin Smith is a good director...but besides those two common stupid remarks, I'd say the dumbest I heard was this guy talking about 2001: A Space Odyssey:
A: Have you seen 2001?
B: That movie with Leslie Nielson? (Referring to 2001: A Space Travesty)
A: No man, 2001: A Space Odyssey.
B: Haven't seen it.
A: It's good, Carl Sagan wrote it.
I really wanted to be "that guy" and go and yell at him "Arthur C. Clarke!!! Sweet Jesus!" But I decided people will be people and, that is, very ignorant of everything.
Quote from: GamblorI've heard too many people say Fight Club is the best movie ever made...
It
is one of them. No, seriously.
Quote from: Gamblor...and that Kevin Smith is a good director...
So now cineasts aren't allowed to have a laugh? *makes mental note*
...
Alright, alright, I'll give you "not a good director," but Smith never claimed to be one. He's just a guy who likes making fun movies. And that he's really funny himself doesn't hurt, either.
It really, really bugs me when people don't like movies because they 'don't get them.' This can apply to people of all ages. And it just bugs me. Many adults don't like Tarantino and the majority of people in their teens and 20's (i think i can say the majority of people) don't like Altman. And of course, people's ignorance to foreign cinema. The guy I knew who said "Foreign people can't make good movies".. ah... I hate movie consumers.
Hahaha this is turning into a snob fest ... not that I have something against that.
Fight Club is a good movie, Kevin Smith has made some good movies, people may not like Tarantino, Altman has had his ups and downs, it don't matter if you don't know who wrote 2001 A Space Odyssey.
I mean, people are entitled to their opinion. But stupid stuff is much more like : "Eddy Murphy should have gotten an Oscar nomination for Daddy Day Care" or "Hitchcock never made a good suspense like we have today, did you see Murder by Numbers ?!"
Anyway
I really should've clarified on the Tarantino/Altman thing (I sort of explained the Tarantino thing before so its a bit redundant), but what bugs me is that I know a lot of people who turned off Pulp Fiction less than a 20 minutes into it for not getting it.. and I know way too many people that didn't get Gosford Park.. and I still don't understand whats hard to get about that one. I mean Gosford Park is in CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER and we find out what happens! Why do I know so many people who don't get it?! Ahh, I wish murder was legal. We'd clean up a good number of morons. :wink:
Hahaha I see whatt you mean then :-)
Quote from: CinephileI mean Gosford Park is in CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER and we find out what happens! Why do I know so many people who don't get it?!
Actually, Altman himself says the murder is never actually solved.
*shrug*
Yeah, well, Altman says alot of things.
Quote from: Pas Rapport
Fight Club is a good movie, Kevin Smith has made some good movies, people may not like Tarantino, Altman has had his ups and downs, it don't matter if you don't know who wrote 2001 A Space Odyssey.
You're right, Fight Club is a good movie, Kevin Smith has made some ehh ok movies, but when people obsessively glorify either of them, it tends to reveal (to me) a little bit more of their personality, and that I should stay away from them (simply because I understand why they are, but that's a whole other topic). And I'm not saying if you like Fight Club or Kevin Smith that you're stupid, or blah, whatever. I'm just saying they're not the best things since sliced bread.
And it does matter if you don't know who wrote 2001 A Space Odyssey, if you are in the conversation that took place. It's ok for people to say "I don't know" or "I'm not sure who wrote it" but people never do and when someone says Carl Sagan wrote 2001 and is too afraid to show how ignorant they really are, then they're stupid and should stop talking about 2001. It's not snobbery, it's a philosophy that can be applied to all forms of communication. I guess it might be one of those "you had to be there" moments.
Oh, here's a good one. Two of my friends saw the Italian Job (which I thought was a nice, kick-ass no brainer) and in some sort of pathetic attempt to critically analyze a movie, they came to the conclusion that they didn't like it because " it had too much confrontation," by that meaning that the characters interacted with Edward Norton too much. Everytime they say that I wanna slap em. It's the Italian Job, who gives a shit? Just watch it and have fun.
Quote from: GamblorAnd it does matter if you don't know who wrote 2001 A Space Odyssey, if you are in the conversation that took place. It's ok for people to say "I don't know" or "I'm not sure who wrote it" but people never do and when someone says Carl Sagan wrote 2001 and is too afraid to show how ignorant they really are, then they're stupid and should stop talking about 2001. It's not snobbery, it's a philosophy that can be applied to all forms of communication. I guess it might be one of those "you had to be there" moments.
Maybe it was a Freudian slip on theat person's part. Anyway, instead of rolling your eyes and throwing your hands up in frustration, what's wrong with politely correcting the person? Saying, "It was Arthur Clark that wrote "2001"? "Contact" was based on Carl Sagan's work"? I've had great conversations with people who were "wrong" about certain movies and actors. They were interested and wanted to know more.
And it is "snobbery" when condesention towards the 'ignorant' person is involved.
Here's what they should do. They should put imdb.com up on those wireless internet palm pilot/cellphones things they have now, so people can just look those kinda things up. :(
Quote from: MacGuffin
Maybe it was a Freudian slip on theat person's part. Anyway, instead of rolling your eyes and throwing your hands up in frustration, what's wrong with politely correcting the person? Saying, "It was Arthur Clark that wrote "2001"? "Contact" was based on Carl Sagan's work"? I've had great conversations with people who were "wrong" about certain movies and actors. They were interested and wanted to know more.
And it is "snobbery" when condesention towards the 'ignorant' person is involved.
Could've been a slip, but it's beyond that, you really had to hear him. I maintain that he was stupid. And I probably am a snob. I hate stupid people being stupid, especially when it comes to movies.
Quote from: GamblorI hate stupid people being stupid, especially when it comes to movies.
But you do realize there are people in this world that are not as passionate about movies as you/we are, right? I mean, why fault those because they haven't as many films and aren't as film knowledgeable as you? Am I gonna look down on my family and friends because they like a movie I don't, or vice versa? No. I've seen many movies to see cliches in them when they arise. My family hasn't. They don't know or care who directed what film. If they see something new in a film they haven't seen before, who am I to mess with that? I mean, we all are looking for that new, groundbreaking experience we get from that rare film, right? This is our field of interest and study, so of course we are gonna know more about it than the average moviegoer. I'm sure a mechanic would laugh at me for not knowing anything about a car.
Quote from: RegularKarateI would say that you must have been in some kind of geek bar if they all got that passionate about The Matrix..
..LOL!!!!.. i know.. right!
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: GamblorI hate stupid people being stupid, especially when it comes to movies.
But you do realize there are people in this world that are not as passionate about movies as you/we are, right? I mean, why fault those because they haven't as many films and aren't as film knowledgeable as you? Am I gonna look down on my family and friends because they like a movie I don't, or vice versa? No. I've seen many movies to see cliches in them when they arise. My family hasn't. They don't know or care who directed what film. If they see something new in a film they haven't seen before, who am I to mess with that? I mean, we all are looking for that new, groundbreaking experience we get from that rare film, right? This is our field of interest and study, so of course we are gonna know more about it than the average moviegoer. I'm sure a mechanic would laugh at me for not knowing anything about a car.
excellent post
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: GamblorI hate stupid people being stupid, especially when it comes to movies.
But you do realize there are people in this world that are not as passionate about movies as you/we are, right? I mean, why fault those because they haven't as many films and aren't as film knowledgeable as you? Am I gonna look down on my family and friends because they like a movie I don't, or vice versa? No. I've seen many movies to see cliches in them when they arise. My family hasn't. They don't know or care who directed what film. If they see something new in a film they haven't seen before, who am I to mess with that? I mean, we all are looking for that new, groundbreaking experience we get from that rare film, right? This is our field of interest and study, so of course we are gonna know more about it than the average moviegoer. I'm sure a mechanic would laugh at me for not knowing anything about a car.
Great post.
It is annoying when people claim to be (insert subject) buffs and don't know that much more about it than the average person.
Quote from: GamblorYou're right, Fight Club is a good movie, Kevin Smith has made some ehh ok movies, but when people obsessively glorify either of them, it tends to reveal (to me) a little bit more of their personality, and that I should stay away from them
Damn ! You must not have too many friends. I mean, most of my friends are into American Pie and Brett Ratner. Why should I care, they're nice people anyway.
Quote from: GamblorYou're right, Fight Club is a good movie, Kevin Smith has made some ehh ok movies, but when people obsessively glorify either of them, it tends to reveal (to me) a little bit more of their personality, and that I should stay away from them (simply because I understand why they are, but that's a whole other topic).
while were beating up on Gamblor, if any of us based people we hang around because of thier preference in movies, i think many of us would be pretty lonely
Yes, I know I am quite lonely, and I certainly do that.
Just to defend Gamblor for a quick second: the thing that's annoying about people who don't love movies as much as us is when they assume they know as much/more than us when it comes to movies.
Like when someone told me that Fight Club "was stupid, was poorly done, and the ending didn't make sense". I had to say to him that he may not have liked it (which is perfectly valid), but that it was actually quite technically amazing, and made sense if you thought about it for a sec, and watched it again. Then the guy said "movies that you have to watch more than once are stupid". Again, I had to say maybe he didn't like watching movies more than once, but that it was a commonly held belief that only the best movies hold up to multiple viewings...
anyway, you get my point. When people insist they know shit I know for a fact they don't even care about -- well that qualifies as Stupid Things People Say.
Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be....
Guys, guys. MacGuffin, yeah you're right. But I'm not talking about the average guy. I'm talking about the guy in the movie line in Annie Hall, talking about Fellinni. I'm talking about Fakes and sciolists. I'm talking about a guy who is bragging he's heard of 2001, written by Carl Sagan.
Did I ever say I based my friends on what movies they like? Look, if someone goes on and on about how Fight Club is the best movie in the world because it's cool and stylized and they understood the symoblism and existential view behind it, I'm going to learn something about them, say, on an instinctual level. If they think Kevin Smith is the funniest movie-maker ever, I'll understand they haven't seen much. I don't have a treehouse club of Fight Club/Kevin Smith haters; those were just random examples of things that get, as I previously said, "obsessively glorified," I could've used Donnie Darko or Guy Ritchie instead. See ya.
Quote from: GamblorI'm talking about the guy in the movie line in Annie Hall, talking about Fellini. I'm talking about Fakes and sciolists. I'm talking about a guy who is bragging he's heard of 2001, written by Carl Sagan.
Holy shit, perfect analogy. Hilarious scene that leaves me crying. And yeah, I hate people like that. I wonder if he was a mechanic...
Quote from: GamblorI'm talking about the guy in the movie line in Annie Hall, talking about Fellini. I'm talking about Fakes and sciolists. I'm talking about a guy who is bragging he's heard of 2001, written by Carl Sagan.
Quote from: CinephileHoly shit, perfect analogy. Hilarious scene that leaves me crying. And yeah, I hate people like that.
It's not really a "perfect analogy", but I know what he's trying to say, but what the fuck is THIS supposed to mean?:
Quote from: CinephileI wonder if he was a mechanic...
I think it's a reference to this:
Quote from: MacGuffinI'm sure a mechanic would laugh at me for not knowing anything about a car.
good spot... I guess I should have reread the thread... I thought he was being pompous.
I got pretty annoyed/naseus when Joyce Kulhaywik went on Roger Ebert and said Gladiator succeeded on every level.
It also pisses me off when people call Do the Right Thing racist, such knee-jerk reaction.
or people dissing genres like animation and martial arts.
Quote from: peteI got pretty annoyed/naseus when Joyce Kulhaywik went on Roger Ebert and said Gladiator succeeded on every level.
More evidence that Joyce Kulhaywik is an idiot.
Gladiator is one of the worst best picture winners of recent history. At least Ebert saw it for what it was.
And while I'm at it...
Quote from: GamblorLook, if someone goes on and on about how Fight Club is the best movie in the world because it's cool and stylized and they understood the symoblism and existential view behind it, I'm going to learn something about them, say, on an instinctual level.
Like what?
Quote from: GamblorIf they think Kevin Smith is the funniest movie-maker ever, I'll understand they haven't seen much.
Humor is subjective. But name someone funnier. Wes Anderson, Woody Allen, Paul Thomas Anderson. But all of these guys' humor is highly subjective, and has hardly entered the mainstream. Worse is, I'm betting not many people can think of any "mainstream" directors who are consistently funny besides Kevin Smith.
Quote from: GamblorI could've used Donnie Darko or Guy Ritchie instead. See ya.
Don't
even go there. Donnie Darko, like Fight Club, is one of the best movies ever. There. I said it. Am I an idiot? (Don't answer that. :-D) Guy Ritchie can't hold a candle to Richard Kelly, let alone any of the other guys we've mentioned.
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Quote from: GamblorLook, if someone goes on and on about how Fight Club is the best movie in the world because it's cool and stylized and they understood the symoblism and existential view behind it, I'm going to learn something about them, say, on an instinctual level.
Like what?
As with my anecdote about the 2001 guy (posted long ago, now buried under heaps of misunderstandings), if Fight Club, or any movie, such as Donnie Darko (both of which I own and that means that I do like them, in order to prevent further explanation), is all that someone always talks about (those two examples just happen to be popular), I'll understand that they are just desperate to impress someone in a sciolistic manner (yes I like using that word, it holds a great meaning to my whole point). I'll understand that they're not the cinema going nut they want everyone to think they are. Yeah, it's probably a harsh generalization, but I think it's true, and it applies only where obvious, e.g. not with family or the average Joe (like the Joe Schmo Show, which is brilliant), but with assholes I see everywhere here on campus.
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Quote from: GamblorIf they think Kevin Smith is the funniest movie-maker ever, I'll understand they haven't seen much.
Humor is subjective. But name someone funnier. Wes Anderson, Woody Allen, Paul Thomas Anderson. But all of these guys' humor is highly subjective, and has hardly entered the mainstream. Worse is, I'm betting not many people can think of any "mainstream" directors who are consistently funny besides Kevin Smith.
Of course humor is subjective. But I'm referring to a matter of taste. Kevin Smith, to me, isn't that funny. That's why I (probably not anyone else), I use him as a measuring stick of taste. If you think he's the funniest guy who's ever written anything, then great. I won't really ask you what comedy I should rent on Netflix, but I'm not going to lynch you. This isn't saying I absolutely hate Kevin Smith either. I think his movies are pretty bad, but the animated series is always great to watch. I prefer the Coen Bros. or anything that's funny really. But to me, Kevin Smith isn't funny. I apologize for having an opinion :-D. I'm not going to get into the concept of "mainstream" because the populous has the worst taste imaginable. Just listen to the radio for about ten minutes. I don't really trust a people that thinks Dickie Roberts might be hilarious and puts it at the top of the box office.
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Quote from: GamblorI could've used Donnie Darko or Guy Ritchie instead. See ya.
Don't even go there. Donnie Darko, like Fight Club, is one of the best movies ever. There. I said it. Am I an idiot? (Don't answer that. :-D) Guy Ritchie can't hold a candle to Richard Kelly, let alone any of the other guys we've mentioned.
No one here, as far as I can tell, is an idiot. Maybe misled, hehe, just kidding for the love of god. Guy Ritchie, again, was just a random example of someone people may tend to overglorify (how many times do I have to say it, I own Snatch for god's sakes). And again, I like Donnie Darko. My point is, to go back to the mechanic metaphor, if all I talk about is fan belts, odds are I don't know shit about cars. A real mechanic is going to sense this and make me shut the fuck up, or at least want me to stop acting like I know more than I actually do. I hope this post has made things, at least, clearer. This is so fucking exhausting.
Quote from: Onomatopoeia..Guy Ritchie can't hold a candle to Richard Kelly...
..Man I am going to have to dissagree w/ that statemment..lock, stocked..and Snatch were way better films than donnie darko( :roll: )....BUT I AM NOT SAYING THAT DONNIE D.IS A BAD FILM AT ALL..IT'S QUITE GOOD ACTUALLY....i just think that those to ritchie film's are better in dialouge for one thing (esp.) lockee stock..watch that sucker again its REAl good...the acting is adequate in both directors film(S)..i don;'t know ..I'm rambling now..its' hard to judge the two right now .I gues its allopinionated really but thats what this place is for..TO VOICE THEM......i just think that donnie darko is way over-rated .people make it out to be some sort of phenomenon or something. basically i think that kelly can't hold a candle to ritchie (
YET)..which is the KEY word....for now............
well i gues sits time for the Donnie Dorko's to fill me w/ hate mail... :wink:
Quote from: RegularKarateQuote from: GamblorI'm talking about the guy in the movie line in Annie Hall, talking about Fellini. I'm talking about Fakes and sciolists. I'm talking about a guy who is bragging he's heard of 2001, written by Carl Sagan.
Quote from: CinephileHoly shit, perfect analogy. Hilarious scene that leaves me crying. And yeah, I hate people like that.
It's not really a "perfect analogy",
Sorry, I meant for me it was, in that I knew precisely what he was talking about and completely sympathized with him.
sometimes, my dvd player will ask me "please select which version you would like to watch: widescreen or standard" or "r-rated or uncut"
silly dvd player
Maybe one day they'll release DVD players that aren't so narrow-minded.
knock on wood.
I'm glad this is my first post for this thread and I'm also glad this is all I'm going to say.
~rougerum
Someone at another board said that The Matrix: Reloaded was "one of the most beautifully shot films of all time"...
And I've heard the subtitles/black & white complaints too. No use listing them here.
I've read that some feminist journalists don't like Magnolia because the author deals too much with father-son relatioship, and is conservative... I'm not a feminist, I am all for EQUALITY, but there are moments that I'm kind of embarassed of the fact that i'm a woman. It's like they prescribe what people should think and feel. I'd just like to say that people shouldn't make their judgements about feminism based on idiots like these.
Quote from: mollyI've read that some feminist journalists don't like Magnolia because the author deals too much with father-son relatioship, and is conservative... I'm not a feminist, I am all for EQUALITY, but there are moments that I'm kind of embarassed of the fact that i'm a woman. It's like they prescribe what people should think and feel. I'd just like to say that people shouldn't make their judgements about feminism based on idiots like these.
Usually any reviewers with a political or religous chip on their shoulder will give weird reviews of films. Capalert is a prime example.
Quote from: mollyI've read that some feminist journalists don't like Magnolia because the author deals too much with father-son relatioship, and is conservative... I'm not a feminist, I am all for EQUALITY, but there are moments that I'm kind of embarassed of the fact that i'm a woman. It's like they prescribe what people should think and feel. I'd just like to say that people shouldn't make their judgements about feminism based on idiots like these.
embarassed to be a woman ? Because of the father -son realtion in there? Why is that? I mean, I fell too connected with them, even because their relation/problems are so universal in my point of view (a estranged parent,no matter which one , you know)....
those feminists could be pissed with Frank TJ "tips"- and even this way they would be wrong to take him seriously.
Quote from: AKQuote from: mollyI've read that some feminist journalists don't like Magnolia because the author deals too much with father-son relatioship, and is conservative... I'm not a feminist, I am all for EQUALITY, but there are moments that I'm kind of embarassed of the fact that i'm a woman. It's like they prescribe what people should think and feel. I'd just like to say that people shouldn't make their judgements about feminism based on idiots like these.
embarassed to be a woman ? Because of the father -son realtion in there? Why is that? I mean, I fell too connected with them, even because their relation/problems are so universal in my point of view (a estranged parent,no matter which one , you know)....
those feminists could be pissed with Frank TJ "tips"- and even this way they would be wrong to take him seriously.
It's called third-wave feminism, people. Look it up. Only old, tired second-wave feminists bother with this sort of petty crap anymore. I, myself, consider
Magnolia a film that can easily be described as feminist, as can
Boogie Nights. Which one does more for women: A film that exposes a mechanism of misogynistic thinking as childish and destructive, or one that "celebrates" "Sisterhood," which is what most of these two-bit feminist film critics seem to be after? Best feminist film critic:
Laura Mulvey. Lucid, insightful, intelligent, and authentic. Celebrates (and introduces the reader to) Godard, Douglas Sirk, Fassbinder,
Peeping Tom (she did the audio commentary for the Criterion
Peeping Tom DVD).
I will generalize and say that the stupidest things I ever hear about films are when they're described as "weird" or "boring." To me, those are words used by people who really don't have anything to say and who were lazy to pay any actual attention to whatever actual qualities (pro or con) the film might have had.
I also find Pauline Kael's thoughts on
Being There to be, if not stupid, extremely misguided; she almost disingenuously misses the point.
Please don't call works "feminist". It degrades them. Paul doesn't have an agenda. He tells stories about humans being humans. Let's leave it at that. Just call them Good Stories.
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It's called third-wave feminism, people. Look it up. Only old, tired second-wave feminists bother with this sort of petty crap anymore.
As a woman , i always have the unique felling about feminism: it sucks and it is misplaced most of the time...Equality is good but turn odd points in to even is waste of time.
Quote from: godardianI, myself, consider Magnolia a film that can easily be described as feminist, as can Boogie Nights.
I never felt that ...I always saw PTA movies as universally speaking.
Quote from: godardianLaura Mulvey & Pauline Kael
I try to find more about the first cuz the second is a shame as critic and sometimes as a person as well
Quote from: SoNowThenPlease don't call works "feminist". It degrades them.
Humanist, then, though I see the term "feminism" itself as what has been degraded by those who actively seek to oppress (Rush Limbaugh with his "FemiNazi" shit- who's the Nazi, Rush, you sexist, racist homophobe?). I'm not going to say this personally towards any one person, because I don't think it applies to anyone here, but I find those who have made feminism into a dirty word are those offended by any sort of modern attitude towards women, people that would prefer women to just be quiet. Certainly, old-guard feminists have done their share to degrade the term, as well, by allowing paranoia and hysteria and stupid arguments over the way "woman" is spelled to distract them from the work at hand.
However: Anderson's film clearly possesses a humanism that is pointedly extended towards women. Linda Partridge's confrontation with the pharmacist could've been derived from any feminist theory class discussing the medical establishment's treatment of women.
I think that the belief that any worldview- and no artist can help expressing a worldview by what they choose to include/omit in their work- can be entirely apolitical is naive and insupportable.
Agreed, of course.
But I'm pretty sure Paul didn't have the plight of women's fight to achieve equality with men on his mind when he conceived this picture. that's all i was saying.
Quote from: SoNowThenAgreed, of course.
But I'm pretty sure Paul didn't have the plight of women's fight to achieve equality with men on his mind when he conceived this picture. that's all i was saying.
That's true, I'm sure. Usually, works that are
conceived as social commentary fail as art, but that doesn't mean that art can't succeed as social commentary... is what I understand from what you're saying, in which case i agree.
Hmm, yes, I like that. Very much so!
Quote from: godardian... but I find those who have made feminism into a dirty word are those offended by any sort of modern attitude towards women, people that would prefer women to just be quiet. Certainly, old-guard feminists have done their share to degrade the term, as well, by allowing paranoia and hysteria and stupid arguments over the way "woman" is spelled to distract them from the work at hand.
I think that the belief that any worldview- and no artist can help expressing a worldview by what they choose to include/omit in their work- can be entirely apolitical is naive and insupportable.
Of course , when the feminist movement rose , made increduble good changes into women's lives (in decades)..but , IMO , after a long period , it became a shadow of what supposed to be in first place and I believe some feminists should reavaliate some concepts that they dropped.
And I disagree that is insupportable... Any piece of art (a movie in this case) can be absorbed (maybe not the entire piece but some parts) to any person ,depending the previous knowlodge from each one.
Sorry, if a miss some part.
Quote from: AKQuote from: godardian... but I find those who have made feminism into a dirty word are those offended by any sort of modern attitude towards women, people that would prefer women to just be quiet. Certainly, old-guard feminists have done their share to degrade the term, as well, by allowing paranoia and hysteria and stupid arguments over the way "woman" is spelled to distract them from the work at hand.
I think that the belief that any worldview- and no artist can help expressing a worldview by what they choose to include/omit in their work- can be entirely apolitical is naive and insupportable.
Of course , when the feminist movement rose , made increduble good changes into women's lives (in decades)..but , IMO , after a long period , it became a shadow of what supposed to be in first place and I believe some feminists should reavaliate some concepts that they dropped.
And I disagree that is insupportable... Any piece of art (a movie in this case) can be absorbed (maybe not the entire piece but some parts) to any person ,depending the previous knowlodge from each one.
Sorry, if a miss some part.
I agree that it's subjective from the viewer's end, but what I was saying is that there is also always subjectivity built in to any creative work, even documentaries. Unless you can somehow broadcast in their entirety each individual person's actions, thoughts, and feelings 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, then you're picking and choosing what/who to show, and how, and that's where it's inescapable that you'll be putting your worldview into what you're creating, which can then be interpreted politically.
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I agree that it's subjective from the viewer's end, but what I was saying is that there is also always subjectivity built in to any creative work, even documentaries. Unless you can somehow broadcast in their entirety each individual person's actions, thoughts, and feelings 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, then you're picking and choosing what/who to show, and how, and that's where it's inescapable that you'll be putting your worldview into what you're creating, which can then be interpreted politically.
so i indeed missed a part....
but i accept this subjectivity from the auteur as a natural path to construct the work.... every time you pick a certain camera angle, scene (at the cut room) and so on you are determinating your point of view...a great example is Bowling for Columbine - it's openly tendentious....
and i also believe that unconscious of, any filmmaker does that - maybe that's what you meant on the Magnolia example.
Yep. Exactly. You guys are both on the same track now. And it's right right right.
Isn't it nice how truly personal, heartfelt cinema like Magnolia can be at once subjective and objective, singular and universal?
Paul is a great man.
QuotePaul is a great man.
Fuckin' bet he is. 8)
Quote from: AKQuote from: mollyI've read that some feminist journalists don't like Magnolia because the author deals too much with father-son relatioship, and is conservative... I'm not a feminist, I am all for EQUALITY, but there are moments that I'm kind of embarassed of the fact that i'm a woman. It's like they prescribe what people should think and feel. I'd just like to say that people shouldn't make their judgements about feminism based on idiots like these.
embarassed to be a woman ? Because of the father -son realtion in there? Why is that? I mean, I fell too connected with them, even because their relation/problems are so universal in my point of view (a estranged parent,no matter which one , you know)....
those feminists could be pissed with Frank TJ "tips"- and even this way they would be wrong to take him seriously.
maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'll try again:
I said I sometimes feel embarassed for being a woman because some girls who think of theirselves as feminists are crossing the line and becoming bullies, instead of defenders of people's rights. I can totally understand that men are afraid of them. Even I am afraid of some "professional" feminists. If a guy is obsessed with father-son relationship, it's his problem. Even a worst psychologist would say a person shouldn't appologise for his/her feelings, but only for actions. If an action is "Magnolia", then I still can't see anything to appologise for.
And, I think TJ Mackey character looks like it was written by an intelligent and opinionated woman with good sense of humor and rather advanced ideas about men and women. From feministic point of view the film is OK.
Those feminists I mentioned in the beginning are not doing a favour to us girls. They are just using feminism as an excuse to bully people and therefore made it a dirty word. Men are not guilty and responsible for everything in this world.
AK, you missunderstood me, but I totally agree with you.
I also agree that a film, book or whatever that is concieved with nothing but the general "humanistic and universal" idea, with paper-thin characters, remains drifting in that Universe. Drifting away.
If I wasn't clear enough, please tell. Sorry for mistakes, english is not my native language :oops:
Quote from: mollyQuote from: AKQuote from: mollyI've read that some feminist journalists don't like Magnolia because the author deals too much with father-son relatioship, and is conservative... I'm not a feminist, I am all for EQUALITY, but there are moments that I'm kind of embarassed of the fact that i'm a woman. It's like they prescribe what people should think and feel. I'd just like to say that people shouldn't make their judgements about feminism based on idiots like these.
embarassed to be a woman ? Because of the father -son realtion in there? Why is that? I mean, I fell too connected with them, even because their relation/problems are so universal in my point of view (a estranged parent,no matter which one , you know)....
those feminists could be pissed with Frank TJ "tips"- and even this way they would be wrong to take him seriously.
maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'll try again:
I said I sometimes feel embarassed for being a woman because some girls who think of theirselves as feminists are crossing the line and becoming bullies, instead of defenders of people's rights. I can totally understand that men are afraid of them. Even I am afraid of some "professional" feminists. If a guy is obsessed with father-son relationship, it's his problem. Even a worst psychologist would say a person shouldn't appologise for his/her feelings, but only for actions. If an action is "Magnolia", then I still can't see anything to appologise for.
And, I think TJ Mackey character looks like it was written by an intelligent and opinionated woman with good sense of humor and rather advanced ideas about men and women. From feministic point of view the film is OK.
Those feminists I mentioned in the beginning are not doing a favour to us girls. They are just using feminism as an excuse to bully people and therefore made it a dirty word. Men are not guilty and responsible for everything in this world.
AK, you missunderstood me, but I totally agree with you.
I also agree that a film, book or whatever that is concieved with nothing but the general "humanistic and universal" idea, with paper-thin characters, remains drifting in that Universe. Drifting away.
If I wasn't clear enough, please tell. Sorry for mistakes, english is not my native language :oops:
I do understand what you're saying, which comes down to: It's always dangerous to label ourselves, because most of us are more than our gender, race, sexuality, etc. As a woman, you don't want to let bullying feminists tarnish the world's image of women.
HOWEVER- it is equally important, I feel, not to let people who are ANTI-feminist turn the real ideas of real feminism- equality, choice, the right to vote and own property, etc- into something negative, and we let them have the word and throw it around as a negative, we're giving up something that really does have right and noble ideas behind it, and allowing fools to define things and make rules. I do NOT think the typical feminist is an embittered, mean, angry woman who hates men; I think it's a woman who votes, reads, thinks, speaks her mind, and does what makes her happy. Even if that happens to be marrying a man who can support a family so that she can stay home and raise it. Or supporting the family herself so that her husband can stay home and raise it. Or raising a family with another woman. Real feminism is not about moralizing and judging, but about MULTIPLYING the options, and I think that's a good thing.
this is scary.
take a look what this guy wrote (lost highway board on imdb, topic: this film is a crime against humanity)
Quote from: bcoffmanI think the only thing worse than the fact that a person like David Lynch is allowed to make a movie such as "Lost Highway" is the fact that there are status-seeking pseudo-intellectuals on the internet, scrambling to justify its blatant insanity and uselessness.
I have a message to all you "film students" out there: You are useless. Your existence provides nothing to society. Movies and other venues of entertainment exist to keep the populace happy and provide a means of relaxation so that they may perform the duties of society more effectively. It is not an end-all or be-all of existence. Entertainment is not meant to confuse or disorient the viewer, telling them in essence that they aren't smart enough to figure out what's happening, and shouldn't even try.
This movie and hundreds like it attempt to be "original" by being as off-the-wall and nonsensical as possible, counting on the intellectuals of the world to wildly interpret it as the most genius creation since the last piece of garbage that some "artist" shot in a weekend.
I have a message to people like david lynch:
Wake up and realize that you serve a purpose.
You are here to entertain people like me, not show me how smart you think you are.
Make me a movie that has a real story (you know, beginning, middle, and end) and I (and the public as a whole) will let you keep your job.
Thanks.
Quote from: rustinglassthis is scary.
take a look what this guy wrote (lost highway board on imdb, topic: this film is a crime against humanity)
Quote from: bcoffmanblahblahblahblahblah
Thanks.
No thanks. You get a 'fuck you' for the film-students-are-useless comment.
Because of all the ads for Kill Bill, somebody told me the other day "If you've seen one of his movies, you've seen 'em all."
Needless to say, I almost strangled him.
"Bringing Out The Dead is basically just Taxi Driver all over again except instead of a taxi driver, it's an ambulance driver."
--Said by a disturbingly large amount of people
Quote from: Derek237"Bringing Out The Dead is basically just Taxi Driver all over again except instead of a taxi driver, it's an ambulance driver."
--Said by a disturbingly large amount of people
You have no idea how many times I have argued with people about this. Truly one of the most stupid things I have heard.
That comment on film students had a decidedly Orwellian tone to it, didn't it? As if the artist's purpose is to "serve" the "working class"...what the fuck? Artists create their works out of some underlying need to create and nothing more...be it subconscious or otherwise. The notion that all artists exist to create run-of-the-mill, standard popcorn fare for mass audiences is absofuckinglutely ridiculous. Art should force the mind to expand beyond it's preconceived notions...sometimes. Then again, art can also entertain. I think it's finding a balance between the two.
The rant is over. :)
seemed huxleyian to me, it reminded me of brave new world, there was perception cinema or something, one of the tools to keep people happy, so that they could perform their duties in a utopian society. yep, lynch would be unemployed there
Don't you think it fucking ruins a movie (experience) if someone next to you or whatever says negative shit about it?
I hate it...Can't stand it. If I hate a movie, I don't go telling everyone in the theater.
Quote from: ChristopherDon't you think it fucking ruins a movie (experience) if someone next to you or whatever says negative shit about it?
I hate it...Can't stand it. If I hate a movie, I don't go telling everyone in the theater I think it is.
Agreed. I also hate when people point out the product placement. It's ironic that they say it with this sort of cynical attitude like, "Oh look, he just has to drink Pepsi, huh?" and I'm here trying to ignore the brand name, but by them bringing it up, I can't. Fuck that
Now if someone was to point out the product placements in Wag the Dog as a negative.. THAT would be even stupider.
When leaving the Matrix Reloaded an outspoken black lady started yelling to the people lined up for the next showing:
"Oh, God, do NOT go in there! That was WHACK! WHACK!"
Quote from: meatballWhen leaving the Matrix Reloaded an outspoken black lady started yelling to the people lined up for the next showing:
"Oh, God, do NOT go in there! That was WHACK! WHACK!"
OK, that is certainly
is a stupid thing for someone to say about a movie, but I must admit that it sounds like a funny moment. I wish I had witnessed it. Of course, I am easily amused.
..radio was good.
exiting Lost Highway was like leaving a funeral.......a dead, lost silence.
Quote from: freakerdudeexiting Lost Highway was like leaving a funeral.......a dead, lost silence.
thats actually pretty cool
Quote from: meatballWhen leaving the Matrix Reloaded an outspoken black lady started yelling to the people lined up for the next showing:
"Oh, God, do NOT go in there! That was WHACK! WHACK!"
I would have gone agro on her ass...stupid people...
recently tried to show my friend vertigo....he hated it and i asked him why and he said "it looked stupid when she jumped off the bridge...too much green in this movie.......that dream thing was retarded....." yeah i dont wanna talk to him for a while
...i can't stand it when watching a movie with someone and he/she says something like...."whatever..that could nnever happen".......
i just sit and think to myself ........its a phucking......MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: NEON MERCURY...i can't stand it when watching a movie with someone and he/she says something like...."whatever..that could nnever happen".......
i just sit and think to myself ........its a phucking......MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's a valid complaint if the film violates its own internal logic, but usually people aren't thinking like that when they say, "that could never happen."
"I thought this was a movie, not a book, yo."
- overheard opening night for Kill Bill Vol. 1, in reference to the subtitles moreso than the chapter headings.
I will never understand that problem with the subtitles. How lazy can you be? All I ever see are subtitled films and I shudder to think of watching them dubbed. They dub films in Spain, how do the spanish folk here handle that? I'm reallt glad I grew up in a country whose film distributers never opted through dubbing films instead of subtitling them. (except for the children films, which are released in both versions)
In Mexico is the same thing that you say about Portugal. I was going to see 21 grams in Spain but hesitated because of the dubbing.
Weird thing is, I asked a couple of Spaniards (sp?) what did they think about that and they told me they prefered watching them dubbed. I guess if you get used to watch movies without subtitles, it takes time getting used to watching them with, regardless of any artistic interference.
i believe this is a very serious topic, and i feel we as cinephiles need to come up wtih a univeral response to the people who label movies weird...
the response should be effective yet funny.
Quote from: SmellyBoobFungusi believe this is a very serious topic, and i feel we as cinephiles need to come up wtih a univeral response to the people who label movies weird...
the response should be effective yet funny.
"No, you know what's weird? That tumour in your brain that's impeding you from thinking up a better word!!!"
Quote from: SmellyBoobFungusi believe this is a very serious topic, and i feel we as cinephiles need to come up wtih a univeral response to the people who label movies weird...
the response should be effective yet funny.
My favorite is to say "you're a fucking idiot, and I wish cancer on your whole family". A tad harsh, perhaps, but effective.
Quote from: rustinglassI will never understand that problem with the subtitles. How lazy can you be? All I ever see are subtitled films and I shudder to think of watching them dubbed. They dub films in Spain, how do the spanish folk here handle that? I'm reallt glad I grew up in a country whose film distributers never opted through dubbing films instead of subtitling them. (except for the children films, which are released in both versions)
not that I'm for dubbing, but the thing I can't stand the most about dubbing is the acting. in some countries, as I understand, they have like real good voice actors. for example, monica belluci's husband (who was in brotherhood of the wolf and irreversible) started out as Hugh Grant's voice in all Hugh Grant's movies. if they make the voice actors better actors, than people probably would have less of a problem with dubbing.
Quote from: SmellyBoobFungusi believe this is a very serious topic, and i feel we as cinephiles need to come up wtih a univeral response to the people who label movies weird...
the response should be effective yet funny.
'look bitch, what's weird is if
newly weds was made into a movie, it would be #1 at the boxoffice cuz of people like you'
Quote from: SoNowThenQuote from: SmellyBoobFungusi believe this is a very serious topic, and i feel we as cinephiles need to come up wtih a univeral response to the people who label movies weird...
the response should be effective yet funny.
My favorite is to say "you're a fucking idiot, and I wish cancer on your whole family". A tad harsh, perhaps, but effective.
i think it's more funny, but that's just me
Quote from: SmellyBoobFungusi believe this is a very serious topic, and i feel we as cinephiles need to come up wtih a univeral response to the people who label movies weird...
the response should be effective yet funny.
I think a good punch to the stomach in full view of a lot of people would work. It would be effective for the offender (as they have been made aware that their behavior is improper) and funny for you and everyone watching you slug this philistine in the gut.
I should also mention that my therapist is on vacation this week.
when i was working as an usher during Magnolia, I was walking into the theater to clean it, and this one woman said, "oh, that was cute" and this was very sincere, not sarcastic or funny. Yeah...cancer and abusive fathers is as cute as puppies and pie. Dumb whore
ahh at least she liked it
Quote from: SmellyBoobFungusi believe this is a very serious topic, and i feel we as cinephiles need to come up wtih a univeral response to the people who label movies weird...
the response should be effective yet funny.
"like that other weird movie...uh, what's it called...THE KARATE KID?"
Quote from: SmellyBoobFungusi believe this is a very serious topic, and i feel we as cinephiles need to come up wtih a univeral response to the people who label movies weird...
the response should be effective yet funny.
"that's because you have no soul"
is normally what I say when someone doesn't like a movie I do.
and if someone likes a movie i hate..i. say
"that's too bad"
After leaving Kill Bill, Volume 1
Woman: I didn't like it.
Man: Why not?
Woman: 'Cause you don't see Bill. And they don't kill him at the end.
Me: (chasing the woman, ready to strangle her)
Quote from: Run Fay RunAfter leaving Kill Bill, Volume 1
Woman: I didn't like it.
Man: Why not?
Woman: 'Cause you don't see Bill. And they don't kill him at the end.
Me: (chasing the woman, ready to strangle her)
That could've went here: http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=3988
Oh damn, this is a great thread. I wish I had read it long ago. So many different topics covered.
Anyway, I had a somewhat stupid comment about a film earlier today through AIM. I told my friend about Russian Ark (I bought it today) and how it was shot in one take and I get this...
"lmao, it must be pretty sucky!"
Any time I want to read something really stupid about a movie I just go read the posts at imdb. Someone called Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas something like "just a guy sharing his great drug stories with people" and that "anyone who has not tried lsd, cocaine, and even pot has no right to watch this movie" That guy alone was almost enough to get me to register there but I couldn't bring myself to do it.
When four independent films were nominated for Best Picture in 1996 (Shine, Fargo, Secrets & Lies, English Patient), Michael Medved said it was a shame that such low-grossing, unpopular films got nominated.
Quote from: soixanteWhen four independent films were nominated for Best Picture in 1996 (Shine, Fargo, Secrets & Lies, English Patient), Michael Medved said it was a shame that such low-grossing, unpopular films got nominated.
I think we have a winner.
That was a winner.
Chinatown is like Lost In Translation -- a lot of bluster over nothing. I'm sure Polanski thought he was making some kind of statement with the film, but to me any meaningful theme being applied to Chinatown is mere artifice. It's not a terrible film but it's fairly vapid.
some woman said "Orlando Bloom deserves an oscar nod" after Troy :?
:lol:
Quote from: SHAFTRBlue Velvet is over-rated and Wild at Heart blew.
Quote from: Bankyi think he is really good but he gets over praised by some for intentionally going over the audiences head
Quote from: SHAFTRMy criticism for most of Lynch's work is that it has no soul, no feeling.
Quote from: anditoki didnt like the movie... yes i do think the directing was great... and i admire lynch... but i was hoping to see the movie and be very impressed.. like when i saw magnolia or punch drunk love, or the matrix, or many others...
i hated it!
Quote from: OnomatopitaAnd Blue Velvet was only a mess.
Quote from: coffeebeetleDavid Lynch sucks.
Quote from: Onomatopita about Lost HighwayAnother swing and a miss for Lynch.
Quote from: chainsmoking insomniacI'm glad someone started a thread on this movie. I think (like Mulholland Dr.) Lost Highway could have been a superb film, if only Lynch decided to give the audience a real story instead of self-indulgent, atmosphere/mood driven scenes with no real narrative.
i win!
Not really, considering we all have incredibly valid points. Lynch's art is so incredibly subjective, so not everyone kisses the ground he walks on. I do give him credit for one thing, though - he challenges viewers, and the art of film itself. He holds claim to these techniques used today. He has made them mainstream. No one can do this surrealist schtick without thinking someone's ripping off Lynch (because how dare someone call upon Maya Deren, Luis Bunuel, or Sergei Eisenstein?). But still, he can't tell a story. (Yeah, I've still only seen three of his flicks -- give it time.) Lynch, like Greenaway, is at the same time horrible and fantastic at what he does. And I both love them and hate them for it.
And you know, you're dredging up all this Lynch hate out of nowhere is kind of unfounded and, well, random. I liked it better when you ranted about those annoying times when the doorbell rings and someone fists someone else with a handful of cheerios. Or something.
Oh, and Chinatown sucks, so that's not an entirely stupid statement; the LiT bashing is, though.
Quote from: OnomatopitaNot really, considering we all have incredibly valid points. Lynch's art is so incredibly subjective, so not everyone kisses the ground he walks on. I do give him credit for one thing, though - he challenges viewers, and the art of film itself. He holds claim to these techniques used today. He has made them mainstream. No one can do this surrealist schtick without thinking someone's ripping off Lynch (because how dare someone call upon Maya Deren, Luis Bunuel, or Sergei Eisenstein?). But still, he can't tell a story. (Yeah, I've still only seen three of his flicks -- give it time.) Lynch, like Greenaway, is at the same time horrible and fantastic at what he does. And I both love them and hate them for it.
And you know, you're dredging up all this Lynch hate out of nowhere is kind of unfounded and, well, random. I liked it better when you ranted about those annoying times when the doorbell rings and someone fists someone else with a handful of cheerios. Or something.
Oh, and Chinatown sucks, so that's not an entirely stupid statement; the LiT bashing is, though.
If we're going to put our imperative hats then: Chinatown doesn't sucks. Lynch is not a bad director, nor is Greenaway.
Quote from: cronopioQuote from: OnomatopitaNot really, considering we all have incredibly valid points. Lynch's art is so incredibly subjective, so not everyone kisses the ground he walks on. I do give him credit for one thing, though - he challenges viewers, and the art of film itself. He holds claim to these techniques used today. He has made them mainstream. No one can do this surrealist schtick without thinking someone's ripping off Lynch (because how dare someone call upon Maya Deren, Luis Bunuel, or Sergei Eisenstein?). But still, he can't tell a story. (Yeah, I've still only seen three of his flicks -- give it time.) Lynch, like Greenaway, is at the same time horrible and fantastic at what he does. And I both love them and hate them for it.
And you know, you're dredging up all this Lynch hate out of nowhere is kind of unfounded and, well, random. I liked it better when you ranted about those annoying times when the doorbell rings and someone fists someone else with a handful of cheerios. Or something.
Oh, and Chinatown sucks, so that's not an entirely stupid statement; the LiT bashing is, though.
If we're going to put our imperative hats then: Chinatown doesn't sucks. Lynch is not a bad director, nor is Greenaway.
Aw, I don't think Chinatown sucks.
Quote from: OnomatopitaBut still, he can't tell a story. (Yeah, I've still only seen three of his flicks -- give it time.)
you really should see some more before you say that. maybe some of the more 'normal' ones like Elephant Man or Straight Story will give you a different outlook on Velvet, Mulholland, Highway, Eraserhead etc. OR just do it the easy way and watch the first season of Twin Peaks, you'll be a convert immediately I SWEAR.
Quotei win!
No offense, but this coming from someone who has a Lynch movie in their avatar...
In keeping consistent with this thread...ahem.
While in the theaters watching Titanic, there were two rather ditzy girls behind me. After the boat sank there dialogue was this:
"oh no, all those poor people"
"did this really happen?"
I reiterate...DID THIS REALLY HAPPEN?
and the clencher...the other responded..."i don't know"
and no, they weren't like 10 or something..more like 18.
Quote from: A World ApartIn keeping consistent with this thread...ahem.
While in the theaters watching Titanic, there were two rather ditzy girls behind me. After the boat sank there dialogue was this:
"oh no, all those poor people"
"did this really happen?"
I reiterate...DID THIS REALLY HAPPEN?
and the clencher...the other responded..."i don't know"
and no, they weren't like 10 or something..more like 18.
Oh God that's sad...Here's one I heard the other day in a DVD store.
Woman (late 20's): Oh look. It's your movie.
(The Man that she was talking to picks up the "Honey" DVD)
Middle Aged Man: And look it's in full screen
I recently went on a four-day field trip to Tampa and brought my entire DVD collection. A brief conversation with a fellow student went as follows:
Him: "Do you have Scarface?"
Me: "No."
Him: "Got the Godfather?"
Me: "No."
Him: "Man, you don't have any classics then."
A few months ago, I had a small conversation with one of my classmates, who is perhaps one of the BIGGEST film poseurs to have EVER walked the planet. It went something like this....
Him: "So Zach, see any good movies lately?"
Me: "Well, I watched American Splendor on DVD this weekend."
Him: "What's that?"
Me: "Um... it's based off a comic book. It has Paul Giamatti in it."
Him: "Never heard of it."
Me: "Oh. Well, I also saw Big Fish recently."
Him: "Who's in that?"
Me: "Uh, Ewan McGregor, Albert Finney."
Him: ::shakes head in an 'I dunno' fashion::
Me: Um, did you see Mystic River?
Him: "Hm, no, haven't heard of that. Did you see You Got Served?"
For an intro to film, tv and radio class, we watched Startup.com during the independent film unit. I heard this while exiting the screening room:
Random Douchebag: Why would they pick that movie? It sucked! They should have shown The Blair Witch Project. That was like the best independent film ever made.
Good lord . . .
Quote from: Onomatopita
And you know, you're dredging up all this Lynch hate out of nowhere is kind of unfounded and, well, random. I liked it better when you ranted about those annoying times when the doorbell rings and someone fists someone else with a handful of cheerios. Or something.
yo!, ...OnO.. dont get offended ....is was sort of goofing around... :wink:
but this is great advice provideed by an enlightened xixaxian:
"you really should see some more before you say that. maybe some of the more 'normal' ones like Elephant Man or Straight Story will give you a different outlook on Velvet, Mulholland, Highway, Eraserhead etc. OR just do it the easy way and watch the first season of Twin Peaks, you'll be a convert immediately I SWEAR."
-themodernage02
Quote from: NEON MERCURYQuote from: Onomatopita
And you know, you're dredging up all this Lynch hate out of nowhere is kind of unfounded and, well, random. I liked it better when you ranted about those annoying times when the doorbell rings and someone fists someone else with a handful of cheerios. Or something.
yo!, ...OnO.. dont get offended ....is was sort of goofing around... :wink:
Who says I was offended? I realize you were goofing around, but I also realize you're the guy who's always had the MD avatar. You DO basically kiss the ground Lynch walks on, no? Besides, no one's ever serious around here. Seriously. :wink:
At the same time, modage is converted so he's "enlightened?" Okay. Same with Ebert, I guess, when he finally "got" Straight Story and Mulholland Drive after panning the rest of Lynch's flicks. Do you see the error in this sort of logic?
I read the following on an imdb.com board and it isn't really stupid but....well you be the judge....
"Punch Drunk Love was way better than Shrek.
Paul Thomas Anderson's dark comedy about a mentally ill man falling in love with a strange woman is a much better film than the first Shrek. Here are reasons why:
1) The story is more believable. I mean, Shrek was completely unrealistic with talking donkeys and such.
2) Shrek wore a vest. A VEST! That makes him a fascist!
3) Wouldn't you rather get PUNCH DRUNKED than SHREKED?
Jeebus, this is just like when I have to explain to people that Taxi Driver is way more superior to the Freaky Friday remake."
I figured he was trying to be funny...But the fact he says jeebus does point to some stupidity.
After walking out of Independence Day:
Teenage Girl: What a cool movie? I wonder how they blew up the White House and put it back together.
Teenage Boy: I don't know. I heard that it was a true story.
Teenage Girl: Really?
Me: (chewing on the hosepipe of a Mac Truck)
Wow! This thread's starting to pile up some demented anecdotes! As for me, I have a friend who didn't wanted to go watch a movie with us because she gets tired after reading subtitles for a while.
upon watching "The Fog of War" last night with some relatives, my aunt said: "This movie was bland and that old man looks like Donald Rumsfeld"
:evil:
This thread is really funny because it features a lot of moment like :
"I am cool
-Have you seen 'X semi-obscure/old movie' ?
-No but I've seen 'X really mainstream/new movie'"
i tend to forget stupid things ppl say.
why would u hold onto it even for a second.
During Troy, anonymous asshole was heckling the screen for three hours.
During a fight,
"Who put a rock there?!"
Guy: I mean, "The Hours" was a great fuckin' movie and all. Acting, directing, whatever. But man, I should not have seen it in a movie theatre. I mean, if I go to a movie theatre I wanna see some fuckin' action, y'know? (He kinda rambles on and on about action stuff)
Me: You wanna see shit blown up?
Guy: Yeah, basically. I wanna see stuff happening. I wanna see the big fuckin' alien killing people, and then fuckin' missiles being shot at it. (rambles, yet again)
Me: So, does that mean you wouldn't watch "The Godfather" in a theatre?
Guy: Basically
Me:...
Guy: Actually, you know what? "The Godfather" has some violence, so I'd probably watch it.
Me:...
Another guy. Swear to fucking god, this was the sequence.
Guy: I don't know. I just don't like Tarantino. He just isn't real, you know. He's just way too fake for me... You know that movie, um, "Pulp Fiction"? Who did that?
Me: Tarantino
Guy: Yeah... Who did that "Jackie Brown"?
Me: Tarantino
Guy: Yeah, I really liked that one, but only that one of his.
Me: Have you ever seen "Reservoir Dogs"?
Guy: No
Me:...
Another time same guy later on, we were talking about great actors:
Me: Have you ever seen "Lost In Translation"?
Guy: No
Me: Well, I think that Bill Murray is just so, so good in that movie. I think he's always been really fuckin great.
Guy: Yeah, I don't know. I think Bill Murray has had his time. He's expired.
Quote from: DelanisGuy: I don't know. I just don't like Tarantino. He just isn't real, you know. He's just way too fake for me...
He was probably refering to Tarantino as a person (or how he appears in public, his persona). A lot of people like Tarantino's movies but think he acts kinda dickish.
... Not... that I... condone what he said.
QuoteHe was probably refering to Tarantino as a person (or how he appears in public, his persona). A lot of people like Tarantino's movies but think he acts kinda dickish.
No, he was talking about his movies. I (after this sequence) asked him and he said he didn't like his movies.
...
This gave me a weird feeling(s) of pity and contempt. How can he say he doesn't like Tarantino's movies when he's only seen one(and he liked the damn thing)?
in a library. this annoying chick come over just to tease me. I swear to god.
her:"so when are you making your film?"
me:"I don't know, the band's splitting up." (I was supposed to make a documentary on these guys.....)
her: "then you can make those disgusting fillms your always talking about"
me (put on sarcastic voice): actually I just saw a brilliant japanese film, where they get these teenagers on a deserted island and force them to kill eachother."
her ~(out of nothing related whatsoever) "have you seen van wilder?
m: no.
her: it's my favourite film, you should be more like van wilder, all he ever does is going to parties."
i know people like that....i hate people like that....i avoid people like that
almost the same:
i know people like that, i get bored with people like that, i avoid people like that
Quote from: Vile5i know people like that, i get bored with people like that, i avoid people like that
I think most Xixaxers agree with you on this one. I know I do.
"I liked it. You don't need a good story for the movie to be good!"
Quote from: Myxomatosis"I liked it. You don't need a good story for the movie to be good!"
Problem is, this is a valid observation. Though for the reasons this person said it, it was probably way off.
Against my better judgement I went to Blockbuster last night. I pick up So Close to Paradise (Japanese) and the girl at the counter says: "You know that's in subtitles, right?"
"Yes," I reply.
"Just checking, because I hate subtitles."
Quote from: El Duderinoi know people like that....i hate people like that....i avoid people like that
i love people like that but for all the wrong reasons
Curb Your Enthusiasm
"This is just a cheap Seinfeld knockoff."
Oh oh! I have another one.
"Just because a bunch of critics say it was good doesn't mean it's good!"
Ebert saying "Catch That Kid" is as good as James Bond
I wouldn't be surprised if it were that bad, actually.
Quote from: SleuthI wouldn't be surprised if it were that bad, actually.
::high-5ive
i always feel bad making fun of stupid shit people say about good movies, because i realize that im a total movie snob/asshole and they should be able to have thier own opinions... that being said, as i left the theater after punch drunk love, i overheard some lady saying, 'that was funny, but it wasn't as good as the waterboy.'
i mean, what the fuck is that
Quote from: clerkguy23'that was funny, but it wasn't as good as the waterboy.'
:lol:
Quote from: MyxomatosisOh oh! I have another one.
"Just because a bunch of critics say it was good doesn't mean it's good!"
Haha yeah that's whack ! I mean, what's wrong with these stoopid people having their own opinions ?! :shock: It's like, if a critic sez its good, shut up and say it's good man !
It's like when people at Blockbuster ask you if you know it has subtitles... 'YES I DO YOU SUB-HUMAN BITCH ! STOP TORMENTING ME WITH YOUR INANE QUESTIONS' that's what I always reply.
Yea but then she'd probably just say you misspelled insane. :roll:
in·ane ( P )
adj. in·an·er, in·an·est
One that lacks sense or substance: interrupting with inane comments; angry with my inane roommate.
Quote from: cronopioin·ane ( P )
adj. in·an·er, in·an·est
One that lacks sense or substance: interrupting with inane comments; angry with my inane roommate.
Hah, I thought about doing that myself, but then it occured to me that it may actually be Chest who is commenting on the stupidity of the customer.
you mean the stupidity of the clerk, I thought pas was the costumer
Quote from: ...& IQuote from: cronopioin·ane ( P )
adj. in·an·er, in·an·est
One that lacks sense or substance: interrupting with inane comments; angry with my inane roommate.
Hah, I thought about doing that myself, but then it occured to me that it may actually be Chest who is commenting on the stupidity of the customer.
oh , see? this is why one should really pay attention to the emoticons.
yeah, i went to dictionary.com to get the exact definition of inane and post it....but didn't...obviously. but isn't the emoticon rolling it's eyes at the customer because they would be the type of person to say that he misspelled insane and not rolling it's eyes at pas?
I was obivously being sarcastic and now regret putting back this post alive
so do i
I wrote a post to explain my stupidity in this thread, but decided not to contribute to the confusion.
"that's a windmill."
Wasn't what someone said, but just a big :?: as to why this person did what they did:
I was at my local music store looking over the used dvds, and saw that someone had broken up the 3 disc Criterion set of "Brazil". They kept disc one (51.1), and discs two and three (51.2 and 51.3) were for sale ($12.99 each). :yabbse-huh:
Someone (or maybe even the same somebody) had also broken up the Indiana Jones box and "Last Crusade" and the Bonus Features disc were for sale.
in my film class, this kid said that the only way clockwork orange could be enjoyed was on drugs.
i hate people who say things like that about movies they don't understand
Quote from: ddiggler6280in my film class, this kid said that the only way clockwork orange could be enjoyed was on drugs.
i hate people who say things like that about movies they don't understand
I've heard people say this about The Wall and Waking Life. I've never done drugs and I loved both those movies so it sort, sort of, sort of makes me a tad curious.
Quote from: ddiggler6280in my film class, this kid said that the only way clockwork orange could be enjoyed was on drugs.
i hate people who say things like that about movies they don't understand
i've heard people say that about Fear and Loathing aswell
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is a favorite among junkies, at least from the ones I know.
Quote from: cronopioFear and Loathing in Las Vegas is a favorite among junkies, at least from the ones I know.
I second that.
But I do feel your pain, ddiggler. I took a film appreciation class over the summer at a community college (I'm still in high school) and I never thought a film class is where I'd hear the painfully stupid things I've heard about movies.
For instance, the professor makes a point that the majority of the movie-going public only watch movies for their entertainment value and asks jokingly, "When's the last time you and your friends saw the latest European art film and had a lively two hour discussion at a local coffee shop?" A girl raises her hand. Her answer: "Me and my friends saw
Hellboy and we talked about how it was a better film than
Van Helsing because it had more character and the action was better." I guess that's slightly better than the other stuff that's been posted in this thread so far but I get annoyed by people that want to show a class/group up by (poorly) answering questions that were rhetorical, much less a joke.
Quote from: samsong"When's the last time you and your friends saw the latest European art film and had a lively two hour discussion at a local coffee shop?" A girl raises her hand. Her answer: "Me and my friends saw Hellboy and we talked about how it was a better film than Van Helsing because it had more character and the action was better."
HAHAHAHAHA!!! No, that seriously is retarded. Oh man, you can tell that she NEEDS to take that film class. If I were the professor, I think I might've just had to walk up to her and slap her, even if it was in a giant auditorium and I had to walk for a full minute to reach her. It'd be worth it.
But at least she recognized that Hellboy is a much better movie than Van Helsing.
... European art films... seriously. Maybe she just didn't hear the "European art" part.
Quote from: cronopio"When's the last time you and your friends saw the latest European art film and had a lively two hour discussion at a local coffee shop?"
eew was he actually condoning that?
Quote from: ewardQuote from: cronopio"When's the last time you and your friends saw the latest European art film and had a lively two hour discussion at a local coffee shop?"
eew was he actually condoning that?
dude, i never asked that
that girl doesn't need to take more film classes. she just needs to give up right now and drop out of film school
ALL OF THIS IS FROM LOVELY MESSAFGE BOARDS OF IMDB!
FROM "A CINDERELLA STORY"
During one of the conversations between Hilary Duff and Chad Michael Murry, Murry types something like "if you are a boy, I'll kick you're butt." I took that as him saying that if a boy has a crush on me, that's wrong. I am a lesbian and I was offended by that line in the movie.
To which someone responded:
Let's have some reciprocity, beyatch. You say you're a lesbian? A pure 100% same-sexist? I want you to sleep with a guy. Let him take you to dinner, then let him take you up to his pad so he can bang you silly.
What's that? You find the idea of heterosexual relations 'wrong', and not to your liking? F**K you, you ignorant bigotted heterophobe! I am offended by your heterophobia!!!!! If straights can't complain about things they have no taste for, then neither can gays!!!!
F**k, I am in a SERIOUSLY bad mood today.
To which someone responds:
When did she say she found the idea of heterosexual relations wrong? All she was saying is she was slightly offended. I do agree that sometimes people take issues of homophobia a little too seriously, like if Chads charcater had been gay and had said 'you better not be a girl, or I'll kick your butt', everyone would just have laughed, but since its the other way round, its automatically offensive. I'm not being nasty towards gays, cos I am one myself, but sometimes we just need to cool down a bit, not take things too seriously.
Then, that same last person posts again, this time writing:
Grrrr... my brothers been posting on my bloody account again... I AM NOT GAY ><
FROM "MAGNOLIA"
Georgiegirl complains: "There was no clever dialogue! All i heard was obsenities and abuses."
....on behalf of everyone on Xixax : :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
FROM THE MESSAGE BOARD OF BASICALLY EVERY GOOD MOVIE EVER CREATED
'this movie is overrated! it sucks! haha........aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh. it's bullsh!t....(This message has been deleted by the administrator.) SPIKE LEE is RACIST and .... quentin.......he's a pothead................fucking....PTA writes ....Vincent Gallo's ego is SO .... bigger than his You Know what!.....rushmore...this movie...it sucks...and...ahaha....get a life, loser...shut up, stupid-head....be mature....can we have normal...d.ebates.......? everyone is dumb except me..."
Now, it's your turn -- ready set go.
I've done it before, I'm guilty. I've posted IMDB stuff in this thread.
But I think its now universally understood that "Best DVD Covers" is to Criterion Collection as "Stupidest Things Said About A Movie" is to IMDB.com
haha, I love the imdb message boards. The comments they had for Northfork are the best.
I work at a video store so I hear a ton of these.
(About Passion of the Christ)
{igorant old guy} "I want a credit for this movie. It should have been in English.
{my co-worker} "But sir, it wouldn't have been as historically accurate"
{igorant old guy}" Why not? The Bible is in english. :?
(my co-worker trying to prove to me I have bad taste in movies)
Co-worker: Hey you, did you see Lost In Translation?
Customer: yeah that sucked, nothing happend.
Co-worker: How about Man on Fire?
Customer: Yeah that was great!
I said to him how does this prove I have bad taste in movies by liking Lost in Translation and hating Man on Fire because some other drone likes shitty movies.
The guy behind me when I saw Anchorman last week kept making predictions about the plot that always turned out to be wrong.
Why would someone make predictions about the plot of Anchorman? Can you give us an example...
Quote from: A Matter Of ChanceWhy would someone make predictions about the plot of Anchorman? Can you give us an example...
When Ron is hanging out in the bar and gets the call to go back on camera after they can't find Veronica, he goes into the bathroom to clean up, and the guy behind me said "Oh, I bet he'll take too long and miss his chance" when the complete opposite happened. That's the only one I can remember but he did it a lot.
Film Threat finally got something right for a change. This is the closest thread to the subject that I could find to post this article in. If anyone has any better suggestions, let me know.
http://www.filmthreat.com/Features.asp?Id=1293
I really admire a professor like this. There are too few of them. But it begs the question, why he didn't structure his class the way he thought it should be, challenge students with thought-provoking films and either change them or let them get washed away with all the others who just can't cut it. If it really is a film criticism class (and it is, as it criticizes the values of the characters in certain films), that's what should happen.
First of all, maybe I benefit from being in a city college where most people are working for their education, but I have not had a class as narrow-minded as that (well, a class that mattered). I don't think it's safe to make the assumption that that class is a microcosm for our generation. People have always been stupid, I'm sure some caliber of the school's quality changed, not the student populace, perhaps. I don't think people get dumber, though I have seen it happen. I think it has more to do with schools giving up. But that's me. That teacher seems to be slowly 'accepting' more ignorant students and accomodates them, which he shouldn't be doing, like you said ono.
Secondly, that is a really interesting class idea, but it seems pointless to do easy schlock. And while I appreciate the author's attempt to claim that he and his friends talk about deep shit with movies, it's awfully pompous to say that's the only way. That stuff gives me a headache a lot, I prefer just talking about cool shit about good movies, beit La Dolce Vita or Wayne's World.
This "class" was probably an exageration or didn't exist.
It's just a way for the author to say that he thinks he's smarter than most people and he gets a movie like Braveheart more than most (BRAVEHEART for christ's sake, PLEASE!)
Quote from: RegularKarateThis "class" was probably an exageration or didn't exist.
It's just a way for the author to say that he thinks he's smarter than most people and he gets a movie like Braveheart more than most (BRAVEHEART for christ's sake, PLEASE!)
I cry at the tought of you,
RK, having the right to vote but not getting Braveheart, a film about freedom.
I don't believe so much the existence of this class but even if it existed... I don't think people are dumber today than they used to be. Stupidity is just more freely expressed.
And seriously, to take a deep pride in understanding such movies as Braveheart, well that's just sillier than making a somewhat wrong moral portrait of Brad Pitt's character in Seven.
Also, it's just as stupid to be mad about another person's opinion (except the IMDB stuff...seriously) of a movie than to have this opinion. If a guy prefers Man on Fire to Lost in Translation, big deal, he might still be a really really good heart surgeon.
Quote from: Pas RapportIf a guy prefers Man on Fire to Lost in Translation, big deal, he might still be a really really good heart surgeon.
Wow, will that fit on the marquee?? Seriously. 8)
2LB
"Music is used only over montage pieces, in the form of distinct songs, and is absent otherwise. This gives the film a good solid indie feel, and I love indie."
- in reference to Garden State
We have a winner. Who said that? Someone at SCAD? Please say yes.
Quote from: Gamblor Posts DrunkWe have a winner. Who said that? Someone at SCAD? Please say yes.
Sorry, no (http://www.claydogg.com/).
that web page is so fucked up and wonderful - do you see his eye winking?
Quote from: life_boyQuote from: Gamblor Posts DrunkWe have a winner. Who said that? Someone at SCAD? Please say yes.
Sorry, no (http://www.claydogg.com/).
What brought you to that page????? :shock:
thats HIS page
Quote from: ThrindleWhat brought you to that page?????
I Googled:
From Bach to Metallica, skydiving to literature, my tastes run the gamut of popular culture. Step inside to share more of my view of the world. Feel free to kick the tires.It was a pretty specific search.
"This movie should've won Best Documetary Feature at the oscars. It is the greatest documetary I've ever seen. After it was over I gave this film a five-minute standing ovation."
- in reference to Super Size Me
Quote from: life_boy"After it was over I gave this film a five-minute standing ovation."
- in reference to Super Size Me
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haha today at the store this lady came up to me and was like "Do you have the movie where Mark Wahlberg plays a porn star and shows his...penis" I was like "Yeah, boogie nights, it's in the paul thomas anderson section" but she couldn't find it so I pointed her to it. Then she comes up the register with the VHS and I was like, " You don't want the dvd? You really should get the dvd cause it's a beautiful movie" and she was like "Well, the only Boogie Nights DVD I saw was the cartoon one, I don't want that one" hahah I about died laughing.
I was just like "Oh, right, right" and checked her out so she could go watch the live action version of boogie nights. She was stoked.
u cannot be serious.
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u cannot be serious.
I am positive. HIV. Dead serious. It happened. I couldn't wait to get home and tell you guys. I was actually replaying how I was gonna word it all day long. Up there is my 5th draft.
Haha, without a quote, it's like flashing back to your STD test thread.
What std thread.....? uh.
Ono, what are sex?
Quote from: StefenI am positive. HIV. Dead serious. It happened. I couldn't wait to get home and tell you guys. I was actually replaying how I was gonna word it all day long. Up there is my 5th draft.
haha, ok, i believe u.
ono is saying that without knowing what we're talking about, it looks like u just confessed to being HIV positive.
I KNOW WHAT HE MEANT!!!! IM CLEAN!!
DELETE THIS WHOLE THREAD!!!
So i'm in a film history class and we're taking a super easy, mostly multiple choice test. As people finish and gather in the hall someone asks who directed 'The Godfather'?
The possible answers were Scorsese, Coppola, Kubrick, and Hitchcock.
And this girl goes "I'm not sure but I put down Hitchcock." Then this other classmate bursts out "Everyone knows that Scorsese directed the Godfather."
Maybe it was just the way they said it.
Also, waiting in line for PDL and a group of 40 year old ladies come out of the previous screening and one says, "I could've come up with something funnier than that."
and just like that...she did
QuoteAlso, waiting in line for PDL and a group of 40 year old ladies come out of the previous screening and one says, "I could've come up with something funnier than that."
Well, that was pretty funny, so maybe she could have.
thanks for the translation
Ah, you're welcome. I'm so glad you and I have put our differences behind eachother and you have begun to appreciate my services.
differences?
the word itself assumes some degree of likeness...of which there is nun
speakin of nun...i put my "difference" behind the ol lady for a bit 2nite and she definitely appreciated my services...so...yeah...i suppose i am in the giving mood...lets put it behind you and see how that goes...
stuffin stefen...
in the name of love...of course
HAHA. THANKS FOR THE TRANSLATION.
excellent...we are now both lost in translation...
good night mr harris...i mean steve...or bob, or raliegh or herman or
dr venkman or carl or whoever you are tonight...
fore!
Call me whatever you want, just don't call me collect.
:kiss:
whatever you say mccracken
You just can't get enough of me can you?
"I am certainly in your dome"
AH, it's been fun. You've taught me more than anyone on this board ever could have.
slow down winger...
dont get all bob wiley on me and shit...
go play sum where else tripper...like the news theory thread post i left for you and the other campers...
i suddenly feel like phil connors
Quote from: atticus joneswhatever you say mccracken
I totally forgot murray was in that movie.
while watching phantom of the opera some idiot behind me said,
"What the fuck, I didn't think this was going to be a musical..."
Wow....za.....
You should have creamed in the guy's face. That'll teach him.
You went to watch Phantom of the Opera?
Check this out. This guy comes into the store today and we got two copies of that DeNiro movie hide and seek, but we got 1 widescreen and another fullscreen. This guy brings up the full screen version and I was like "I think we have the widescreen version in, want that one instead?" and he was like "Ah, who cares, if full screen is good enough for Kubrick it's good enough for me" I was like "...yep"
The fuck do I say to that?
Quote from: StefenThe fuck do I say to that?
Quote from: SteveYou just smile and act natural, and then you sucker-punch.
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Quote from: KALYou went to watch Phantom of the Opera?
No...
I would never do that...
it was a good movie...
Quote from: Brazoliangeit was a good movie...
No, it isn't. :) Um...the play's better. Gosh, I'm out of it.
"2001 was only good because Kubrick had a good editor."
magnolia was about freemasonry.
respect the kak.
This thread. (http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=7974)
Quote from: b. realmagnolia was about freemasonry.
:ponder:
Well, now that you mention it, there
were freemasonry symbols all over the game show set, and Ricky Jay
was wearing a freemason ring, and he
did greet Jimmy Gator with a freemason saying... and apostropheS
did use a lot of big words back in the day.....
I'm convinced. Well argued.
Eyes Wide Shut was a porno.
Imdb goof section of "the village" MAJOR SPOILERS
Miscellaneous: In the beginning of the story the tombstone of the Nicholson boy says 1890-1897 but later on when Ivy goes to the towns there is a truck, and other modern objects that did not exist at the time.
I don't really like movies that make you think.
I was selling popcorn at the movie theater last night. this lawyer dude who came in a lot came out after 2046 and I asked him how it was, he was in a shitty mood and he was like "I need to watch it again, 'cause there was this asshole in front of me just hacking away (?) and several rows behind me was this guy snoring really fucking loud, and everyone looked the same, I just had no patience for it." So I told him "but it was the best performance of my career!" But he was like too furious to even recognize what I just said to him. After thinking about it five minutes later, I really should've just said "sir has anyone ever told you you look like Steven Seagal?"
Ha, that was a brilliant comeback!
I saw Days Of Being Wild yesterday and these guys behind me and my friend were tapping their feet loudly throughout it, and then when it was over, they of course promptly said "well THAT sucked" and started laughing, as if amused by the fact they had actually sat through the whole thing.
Which isn't like a good stupid line or anything...just frustrating.
at the end of Constant Gardener i said "sequel!" i guess you have to see it for it to be funny.
waroftheworldsspoilers:
excuse me, sir, perhaps the woman was referring to the Tom-Cruise's-son-living-at-the-end part of the film's finale, as many people found this to be quite "far-fetched" considering it is seemingly impossible to escape a burst of fire as huge as the one that nearly consumes him
Quote from: GaramWoman 1: Alright!
Woman 2: Hey! What'd you just see?!
Woman 1: War of the Worlds!
Woman 2: Oh! Is it any good?!
Woman 1: Yeah! It's a little far fetched, but good!
I think the stupid thing about that was that War of the Worlds was really not good...
which one of you wrote this?
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38667
Heheh. He made a funny.
in response to "i don't support blockbuster because they don't support independent artists.":
"yea, but they carry all that shit. dey got this one that i got there. Ong-Bak. it's about buddhism and everything. you're a guy. you like it. it's better than jackie chan."
then i said, "foreign is not the necessarily the same thing as independent"
and she said, "well they got shit there that ain't in english. it's better than jackie chan and everything."
"i like PTA's films except that they're so sloppy."
Quote from: Bethiewhich one of you wrote this?
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38667
Quote"Not only does she think, for some unfathomable reason, that the presence of Jackie Chan makes the movie 'foreign,' but she makes the blanket statement that she hates foreign films—all of them," Lisowitz said.
this made me lol
Quote from: JimmyGatorthis made me lol
hahahahaha
Quote from: CinephileQuote from: JimmyGatorthis made me lol
hahahahaha
yes i said it
This guy, who's pretty funny but kinda jealous that his girlfriend likes me more than him, is in one of my film classes. He said is top five was as follows:
Fight Club
Well I can't remember what else he said, but that's all you really need to know. He listed movies from Pulp Fiction onward (I believe PF was one of them). This is old hat by now, but I just kinda can't stand film majors who act like films started with Tarantino.
Quote from: GamblourThis guy, who's pretty funny but kinda jealous that his girlfriend likes me more than him, is in one of my film classes. He said is top five was as follows:
Fight Club
Well I can't remember what else he said, but that's all you really need to know. He listed movies from Pulp Fiction onward (I believe PF was one of them). This is old hat by now, but I just kinda can't stand film majors who act like films started with Tarantino.
the worst part about it is that some day, they'll all be out of school and you might have to work with/for them.
I heard someone say the other day "The movie wasn't even fully translated: it had subtitles." It was a sad, sad day.
Quote from: GamblourThis guy, who's pretty funny but kinda jealous that his girlfriend likes me more than him,
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She likes me more than him
I'll kick your butt! At nintendo.
Quote from: GamblourI'll kick your butt! At nintendo.
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this isn't stupid. in fact, i thought it was genius.
joe: do you like films?
nick: of course, nigga. what the fuck else you think i watch?
Quote from: Reinhold Messnerin response to "i don't support blockbuster because they don't support independent artists.":
"yea, but they carry all that shit. dey got this one that i got there. Ong-Bak. it's about buddhism and everything. you're a guy. you like it. it's better than jackie chan."
then i said, "foreign is not the necessarily the same thing as independent"
and she said, "well they got shit there that ain't in english. it's better than jackie chan and everything."
that girl is pretty cool that she appreciates ong bak. unless she's not attractive, then she's just a loser.
"I love movies. I love serious crime thrillers like Heat and Carlito's Way, dramas like Crash, comedies like Swingers, horrors like the Descent. I can appreciate an Oscar-winning performance from Denzel Washington in Training Day as much as Mickey Rourke's standout tour-de-force as Marv in Sin City, blockbusters like War of the Worlds and low budget independent productions like Garden State. As for cheesy action movies, well I love them too."
Stealth DVD Review
In college we had a screening of "Dr. Strangelove" on a Thursday night. Upon exiting I heard a woman say to her friend "We had to miss 'Friends' for that?"
Also, a friend of mine once heard a co-worker say, "I just love sequels, don't you?"
Me: "Who are you doing for your project [on your favorite director]?"
Him: "The only two good directors I can think of are Kevin Smith and Wes Anderson."
Quote from: ®edlum on November 14, 2005, 11:48:52 AM
"I love movies. I love serious crime thrillers like Heat and Carlito's Way, dramas like Crash, comedies like Swingers, horrors like the Descent. I can appreciate an Oscar-winning performance from Denzel Washington in Training Day as much as Mickey Rourke's standout tour-de-force as Marv in Sin City, blockbusters like War of the Worlds and low budget independent productions like Garden State. As for cheesy action movies, well I love them too."
Stealth DVD Review
should have said "i love american movies made after 1993"...
That guy used to be into Cassavettes until Stealth damaged his brain.
I think I've made some pretty stupid comments before and have many more to make.
During A History of Violence a girl behind me said during the first sex scene with the cheerleader outfit and such, "This is the sign of a REALLY bad movie." and when the movie was over a guy outside of the theatre was like "I guess they ran out of money and couldn't finish the movie." Yes. That is exactly what happened.
Also, I haven't seen The Hulk, but I was at a family reunion where some of my cousins and my uncle watched it. After it was over I came into the room to hear them talking about it, and my uncle was like "they Really messed up with this one. The main problem was that they put too much plot into it. They need to realize that a movie doesn't need plot if it's got good action."
No joke.
Quote from: Astrostic on November 19, 2005, 02:54:33 PM
"The main problem was that they put too much plot into it. They need to realize that a movie doesn't need plot if it's got good action."
I agree with this statement. Action movies with a bizarrely large amount of plot tend to bore me. (i.e. this bomb's going to explode at this time if this guy who doesn't know about it gets to this point to do this thing, but he's also the president's son and must be prevented from activating the bomb without explicitly knowing anything about the bomb because it's all part of a plot that if he tells his father--the president--then the president will tell his security advisor, who is actually an alien spy, who is using that as a signal that it is now time to open the space portal that will allow a race of alien nazis from outer space to enter Earth... unless one man, Eddie Jones, can stop them, all before his morning cup of coffee.)
If it DOES indeed have good action, then no, it doesn't really need all that much plot. Plot just slows things down, since what everyone is there for is the big action scenes. Some movies have been successful with plot and action, but they're rare.
I'm still waiting for the truly plotless, abstract action film masterwork.
Quote from: matt35mm on November 19, 2005, 03:08:18 PM
I'm still waiting for the truly plotless, abstract action film masterwork.
Rest assured, Luc Besson is getting there.
I just saw like six great action films this month, all from Asia, and man I tells ya, Seven Swords is indeed such a film.
the guy who told me that kubrick was only good because he had a good editor is in my room right now, having a conversation with my room mate:
him: "it pisses me off that WB kills its shows like that"
my room mate: "yeah... i know! they have really good shows and then just take them off!"
him: "hey, do you remember that robocop show though? it was on at like 1 in the morning."
my room mate: "oh yeah, that was--"
him (cutting my room mate off): "it was awesome! he was such a badass in that! and the chick was hot, too."
my room mate: "yeah, man. it was awesome."
"I didn't like Eyes Wide Shut because it felt like nothing happened at all throughout the movie."
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"Boondock Saints is the quintessential guy movie."
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"I liked 40 Year Old Virgin mostly because of its character development."
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"Crash really made me think about... life. It was just... wow."
Quote from: w a l r u $ on November 25, 2005, 01:17:59 PM
"Crash really made me think about... life. It was just... wow."
Anyone who uses "wow" as an adjective should be shot.
you've obviously never seen the uncut version of Malena in which Monica Belluci gets fondled by little boys.
Quote from: w a l r u $ on November 25, 2005, 01:17:59 PM
"I didn't like Eyes Wide Shut because it felt like nothing happened at all throughout the movie."
goddamnit i should've used that.
Quote from: Pubrick on November 26, 2005, 12:22:41 AM
Quote from: w a l r u $ on November 25, 2005, 01:17:59 PM
"I didn't like Eyes Wide Shut because it felt like nothing happened at all throughout the movie."
goddamnit i should've used that.
You'd still have space to add "and Tom Cruise is glib." It would be a run-on, which they love.
"hey have you seen this movie with two girls-- it's very OLD but good --The Shining?"
"Did this really happen?!" [in reference to Pearl Harbor]
"I thought the summary said this was supposed to be erotic." [in reference to Mulholland Drive]
"So they really WERE gay!" [in reference to the school shooters in Elephant]
"I couldn't tell Kong apart from the other animals."
admin edit: SPOILS for Day After Tomarrow
"Wait.. so.. theres a Vice President?"- some girls behind me while watching a scene from The Day After Tomarrow where they announce the Presidents death. :doh:
A girl at my work described Brokeback Mountain as being "very intense. There's a lot of 'peenys' in it. The sex scenes are very 'poundy'."
My dad, as Phil Hoffman won: "One good role in his entire career and he wins, and he hasn't even done anything good before."
My roommate just said, "Nikki, Crash wasn't that bad a movie, it opened a lot of doors for a lot of people."
Right.
No offense to Jack Nicholson (whom I love), but: "Crash."
EDIT: Spelling.
This will top everyone's list for this week.
There's a guy I work with who likes to talk to me about movies... he hated a movie he kept calling "Mongolia"... later, I figured out, he meant Magnolia... today he was talking about liking Crash a lot... I asked him, out of curriosity why he liked Crash, but not Magnolia:
"Because Crash had a POINT and Magnolia DIDN'T!"
Quote from: RegularKarate on March 06, 2006, 11:17:56 PM
"Because Crash had a POINT and Magnolia DIDN'T!"
Actually, he's right, you know... Crash had a big loud point, and Magnolia didn't really have any point in particular to make. (Magnolia kind of was its own point)
Fortunately, most of us (at xixax, not in the world) are at least a little above the simplicity of:
A CLEAR POINT = GREAT MOVIE
NOT ANY PARTICULAR POINT = POINTLESS AND THUS NOT WORTH THE TIME
Quote from: RegularKarate on March 06, 2006, 11:17:56 PM
This will top everyone's list for this week.
There's a guy I work with who likes to talk to me about movies... he hated a movie he kept calling "Mongolia"... later, I figured out, he meant Magnolia... today he was talking about liking Crash a lot... I asked him, out of curriosity why he liked Crash, but not Magnolia:
"Because Crash had a POINT and Magnolia DIDN'T!"
:brickwall:
you know what i was just thinking about? there are only like three ppl in my life (save all of you) who i can talk to about film and who's opinions i honestly respect. three ppl i say!
Quote from: RegularKarate on March 06, 2006, 11:17:56 PM
This will top everyone's list for this week.
There's a guy I work with who likes to talk to me about movies... he hated a movie he kept calling "Mongolia"... later, I figured out, he meant Magnolia... today he was talking about liking Crash a lot... I asked him, out of curriosity why he liked Crash, but not Magnolia:
"Because Crash had a POINT and Magnolia DIDN'T!"
People like this probably don't see films until everybody tells them they should.
Quote from: ©brad on March 07, 2006, 08:36:27 AM
Quote from: RegularKarate on March 06, 2006, 11:17:56 PM
This will top everyone's list for this week.
There's a guy I work with who likes to talk to me about movies... he hated a movie he kept calling "Mongolia"... later, I figured out, he meant Magnolia... today he was talking about liking Crash a lot... I asked him, out of curriosity why he liked Crash, but not Magnolia:
"Because Crash had a POINT and Magnolia DIDN'T!"
:brickwall:
you know what i was just thinking about? there are only like three ppl in my life (save all of you) who i can talk to about film and who's opinions i honestly respect. three ppl i say!
So true. My roommates laughed at me when, after the Oscars, I went directly to the computer because, "I just can't handle this!".
So today at work, the bartender brought in a magazine for me to look at. The manager picked it up and was looking through it. She sees a picture of Chloe Sevigny.
"She's weird. I mean I like her, but she's weird. She picks the weirdest roles to play." she continues, "I watched this movie with her in it, 'Rabbit.' It's supposed to be one of those life altering movies, and deep. but when it was over, I sat there confused. It was so weird." She asked me, "Have you seen that?" I have no idea what this girl is talking about so I said, "No." She starts to talk again, "It was boring. for a lot of the movie theres no talking and he just drives around a lot." I start to laugh and say, "THE BROWN BUNNY!"
Rabbit. :doh:
When I used to work at Blockbuster, I would always get people mis-naming movie titles. The only one I can remember (sadly I thought long and hard) is a customer asking me where she could find "The Hunt For Crimson Tide In October." I then told the customer how it was cheapter to rent two 'favourites' rentals opposed to one cause imagine her suprise (gasp) that she would wind up with two films.
I'd even say it transcends being just a movie and is some other kind of strange, non-definable art.
Wait, what?
these two big white dudes sat in the theater long after the credits finished rolling in l'enfant, one explained to his friend "that movie was very French," the other said "I think it was made in Belgium", to which the original guy said "hmm, that's interesting."
a comment left for me on myspace by a good friend of mine:
QuoteI don't know if i can trust your judgement in movies anymore. Me and Mike watched The New World and um, it sucks. It seemed like it was 6 hours long. How can that be your top 3 in 05' but you refuse to see V for Vendetta?!? Something is wrong with you woman!
Something is wrong with you, Bethie.
Something is wrong with all of us.
We're the fuckin' weirdos of the world. Though we should know by now not to recommend certain movies to people who aren't going to enjoy those movies; it's just gonna end badly.
Like the song says: The one thing we share is death, so just give up, Mary Beth.
I actually didn't recommend it to her because I do know better. She wanted my (cause I have superior taste) top ten list from 05 and 04 and wanted to watch them all. So the past month her and this other said person, Mike, have been watching my favourites from the past couple years.
I saw United 93 with them both last week. The girl hardly even knew about 9/11. On the ride home they mentioned that two of my favourites from 05 were coming out to rent soon. Munich and The New World. The girl had no idea what Munich was all about and apparently she has no idea what The New World was all about either. :saywhat:
haha one film I actually did recommend to her years ago was Casablanca, she got pissed at me cause she thought it was sad. haha
Oh, okay. Yeah, I've had that happen to me, too. I guess you're not to blame. Then you get faced with the question, "You liked it?? WHY???" Oh, "Why," how many times have you been thrown in my face?
And then she pretty much said that you have to or ought to watch V for Vendetta when you never said that she had to watch The New World. It's always... interesting when people tell you what movies you'd like, especially when you know that you wouldn't like them. Or ask you if you've seen it yet, when you never intended to see it.
It almost sounds like this girl doesn't like serious movies, period. Maybe she would have liked the Simpsons's alternate ending to Casablanca.
The same thing happened to me once with a friend. The only thing is that the movie was The Royal Tenenbaums. Ever since I recommended that movie to my friend Adam, him and his entire family don't trust me. They give me sideways looks.
*sigh* - we must be a rare breed.
yeah there are certain movies I only recommend to certain friends. funny enough, I think I also got scarred big time by the royal tenenbaums. I told all my friends to watch it and showed it to all my friends and relatives, and got burned kinda badly. after that I don't recommend certain movies to certain people anymore. some of them just don't wanna watch movies, and that's fine. I don't watch sports, they don't watch movies.
i too, have recommended royal tennenbaums only to get bitten in the ass later. i don't get it. the movie is so lovable.
so okay, yesterday A Time to Kill was on TBS and a friend of a friend of a nobody said the following:
"this movie is so smartly done. you can tell they really researched it."
this is interesting cause tenenbaums is probably the only thing ive ever recommended that people actually appreciated.
oh my god, you guys do I ever have a treat for you. tonight I got 'mike's' opinion on The New World. It's rather lengthy, so I won't post it all. (you'll thank me)
ASoundSo: I actually saw a movie so bad that when it was finally over, somewhere, a baby died.
a few minutes later after telling me how excited he is for the da vinci code and xmen3...he goes on:
ASoundSo: but seriously, dont ever watch The New World. Talk about being Amped to see a film and then just being kicked in the face for it.
ASoundSo: hahaha, you already saw it
bethie is uncool: in the theatre
ASoundSo: oh man, I was gonna go
ASoundSo: I would have been so pissed off If I did
ASoundSo: man I cant beleive you liked that movie! It was sooooooo damn boring!
ASoundSo: and made no sense whatsoever
bethie is uncool: haha yes it did
ASoundSo: Christian Bale shows up out of Nowhere
ASoundSo: and in 2 hours and 15 min. there is about 20 min. of dialouge and an hour and 55 min. of Pocahontas doing some weird form of sign language that somehow John Smith understood perfectly, but nobody else did because there were no subtitles.
ASoundSo: who directed that
bethie is uncool: only like the best living directer there is. hes brilliant. any noteworthy critic will tell you terrence malick is a god. you dont understand though.
ASoundSo: Terrence Malick...he should never be allowed to make another film. They should cut out his tounge so he cant direct.
ASoundSo: any noteworthy critic who said that is a good movie is lying his ass off. Terrance Malick is obviously in the Mafia. They slept through it or were on so many drugs that they said they loved it.
ASoundSo: and I just checked his list of films
ASoundSo: and there aint shit on it
bethie is uncool: you wouldnt know
ASoundSo: and only 2 since 1978
ASoundSo: one of which was a war film that wasnt very good either
bethie is uncool: every single one is 5 stars and makes cinephiles cream their pants
bethie is uncool: maybe some day youll understand
ASoundSo: then this one was only rated highly because of who he is
ASoundSo: the film sucks fucking terribly
bethie is uncool: when you see as many films as i have and great ones at that, youll know whats good and whats great and what isnt worth your time
bethie is uncool: the new world was on all the critics top ten list b/c theyve all seen great film and they realize what a great film is and that is, the new world
ASoundSo: I beg to differ. I have probably seen just as many or close to it that you have and I know whats makes a good film. Its more than just a critic liking it. A film can be great to a critic, but if people other than movie critics dont like it, then its not a great film. it takes both critics and general population to adore a film to make it great
one of the other is a wash and I would love for a critic to tell me what is so great about that film I think they would have a hard time, because its not good.
bethie is uncool: the new world has a cult following already
ASoundSo: what is so good about it. maybe I can be convinced to join the cult
bethie is uncool: its told accurately and beautifully. i think thats enough justifiction. and christian bale doesnt need to be in the entire film
then he went on spitting on the romance and cine told me to ask him what he thought about Pearl Harbor and he said "pearl harbor wasn't bad"
ohmygod. he just said
ASoundSo: but I officially rank him next to Stanley Kubrick in my overrated directors file. This file is set aside for directors who do brilliant work, but then later on do crappy work that gets called brilliant because of their previous brilliant work.
and I changed his sn a little so none of you waste your time messaging him.
I saw the new world at one of those advanced screening things and I've never seen less love from the audience. even the hills have eyes got more love than the new world. people were laughing during the dialogues and they actually cheered in the end when it ended. then I heard this half-witty kid saying "it felt like the three-hour version of the ad with the indian shedding a tear." I think people can't stand movies where the conflict is not spelled out or nothing's at stake. it's a strange thing, and it's very conditioned. they can appreciate a pretty picture when there is a conflict and a journey, but not pretty picture when everyone is alive.
bethie your friends sound like complete idiots. the truth is the majority of ppl have idiotic opinions about movies. yes i'm saying majority without any extensive research to back me up, just my own theory derived from my own experience: if you want to find a reliable flaw in a person, it'll be their taste in movies. people who are cool in every other aspect of their personality suddenly become ASoundSo when discussing what movies they like. and there's not a goddamn thing u can do about it. haha, actually the problem seems to be that THEY think it can be fixed, like mod with new world, and this mike character, "say the word and i shall be healed". it's ridiculous.
and pete u told us already, but that's cool, the bit the kid said wasn't in the first telling.
I haven't recommended The Royal Tenenbaums to anyone but my roommate a few years ago borrowed my copy a lot.
Quote from: Bethie on May 15, 2006, 03:35:52 AM
and I changed his sn a little so none of you waste your time messaging him.
You neither, Bethie... you neither.
The line I will laugh at during the day several times and probably just as I'm going to sleep tonight:
Quote from: Bethie on May 15, 2006, 03:35:52 AM
Talk about being Amped to see a film and then just being kicked in the face for it.
What trailer did he see for this? :shock: I don't recall anything in them that would make anyone think The New World was action-oriented. Unless it's just that I know what to expect from Malick.
Or is he just a big Colin Farrell fan: "Man, he was so DOPE in Phone Booth! What's this Indian shit?"
Quote from: Cinephile on May 15, 2006, 12:28:12 AM
this is interesting cause tenenbaums is probably the only thing ive ever recommended that people actually appreciated.
You have better friends than Bethie.
A couple of weeks ago, a friend of mine asked me to recommend a movie for him to watch with the girl he had just started dating. I recommended, as any good friend would, Before Sunrise. I asked him the next day how it went. His response: "Why did you give me that movie? I got so bored, just waiting for something to happen." A little stunned, I regained my composure and asked what his girlfriend thought about it. He said, "I don't know. She liked it, I guess. I turned it off after 45 minutes because it was boring me."
So I told him, "If she breaks up with you anytime soon, that's why." Then I kicked him in the nuts. Or should have, anyway.
Adaptation.
dude: what are you reading?
me: v for vendetta.
dude: is it better than the movie?
me: i haven't seen the movie.
dude: it's not better than the movie. it can't be. wow there's a lotta chicks in the book, isn't there? does v get any pussy?
The part with the fridge.
me: he was talking about requiem for a dream.
girl: oh i've seen that, it's so funny.
me: really? you thought it was FUNNY?
girl: yeah the part with the fridge, hahaha. I thought that was funny.
Lost in Translation.
guy 1: so what's your favourite movie?
latina girl: wedding crashers.
guy 1: oh... wait, what? winnie crotchet?
latina girl: wedding crashers
guy 1: winning crotches..
[awkward pause]
guy 2 (me): um, wedding crashers.
Quote from: Hedwig on May 16, 2006, 12:52:37 AM
The part with the fridge.
me: he was talking about requiem for a dream.
girl: oh i've seen that, it's so funny.
me: really? you thought it was FUNNY?
girl: yeah the part with the fridge, hahaha. I thought that was funny.
Translation: she was stoned out of her gourd when she was watching it.
Quote from: Hedwig on May 16, 2006, 12:52:37 AM
girl: yeah the part with the fridge, hahaha. I thought that was funny.
I owe my friend who laughed at the "Ass-to-ass!" part a big apology.
And Hedwig, you totally ruined that guy's date. Or I guess you can look at it like you saved him from a girl whose favorite movie is Wedding Crashers. :bravo:
I guess this could go here:
Dukes of Hazzard 2 Casting News
Former "Laguna Beach" star (?) Kristin Cavallari is apparently set to take over from Jessica Simpson – and consequently, those shorts – in the next "Dukes of Hazzard" movie.
The film, a prequel to the events of the recent film, will be released straight-to-video – hence the 'we don't give a hoot, who we cast in this thing' attitude. Producer Bill Gerber says the spunky blonde is the frontrunner for the role of Bo and Luke's feisty skimpy-shorts wearing cousin. "She's at the top of the list. I like her innocence and her beauty", he told Contact Music. "It's a prequel, like Batman. We're going for a whole new cast."
"yeah. goodfellas was great! say hello to my little friend!"
Quote from: polkablues on May 16, 2006, 12:26:41 AM
A couple of weeks ago, a friend of mine asked me to recommend a movie for him to watch with the girl he had just started dating. I recommended, as any good friend would, Before Sunrise. I asked him the next day how it went. His response: "Why did you give me that movie? I got so bored, just waiting for something to happen." A little stunned, I regained my composure and asked what his girlfriend thought about it. He said, "I don't know. She liked it, I guess. I turned it off after 45 minutes because it was boring me."
So I told him, "If she breaks up with you anytime soon, that's why." Then I kicked him in the nuts. Or should have, anyway.
Your friend's reaction was also mine. Then add on that Ethan Hawke's character was just annoying. He didn't grow up or even grow slightly interesting until Before Sunset.
(Sorry the reponce is late. My allergies says I can only check this thread once a month)
"This dvd says widescreen. Does that mean full screen?"
- customer
in refrence to harold and kumar go to white castle, which we actually watched in a class...
"it has a bringing up baby meets after hours thing going for it"
Quote from: meatwad on September 10, 2006, 10:36:46 AM
in refrence to harold and kumar go to white castle, which we actually watched in a class...
"it has a bringing up baby meets after hours thing going for it"
Time to drop that class.
The Graduate
- "is that the guy from Scarface?"
- when ben is explaining the MILF situation to elaine and she screams at the top of her lungs, someone asked "why is there so much screaming in this movie?"
- during the seduction scene: "do they have sex?"
- "i don't get how this is deep.."
Quote from: meatwad on September 10, 2006, 10:36:46 AM
in refrence to harold and kumar go to white castle, which we actually watched in a class...
"it has a bringing up baby meets after hours thing going for it"
From that quote, it seems like he's sarcastically taking the piss out of the "
x film is like
y film meets
z film" kind of review. The guy sounds moderately funny.
Lot of snobbery going on in this thread. Hehehe.
Thank You For Smoking is brilliant. It isn't a comedy.. It's a mockumentary!
When Hollywood keeps making the same movies over and over my word for it is "formulaic." Let me explain further: have you ever seen a movie with a chase scene? Have you ever seen two movies with chase scenes? Well there are a lot. And the same thing happens every time. The police are chasing the bad guy and they catch him. For this I have coined the term "formula."
"Subtitles? What, like words?"
"I don't want to read my movie"
"Just get something entertaining."
The Fountain
"The second part was just to make it artsy"
Robert Altman
"Oh yah, I loved his tv show."
two people came in today and asked for a refund for Brokeback Mountain because they "didn't know it was a gay movie."/thought it was about two close friends.
Read the synopsis on the back. That's pretty much what it makes the movie out to be. Add in the fact that whoever rented it doesn't watch TV, listen to the radio, or read any magazines, dislike gays, and it's a fairly common mistake.
Of the beginning of pulp fiction:
"the whole thing was like an advertisement for cheeseburgers... in general."
Oh man what a post I just read. I am wondering who is saying ''the stupidest things''. Quote best lines :
Quote from: Bethie on May 15, 2006, 03:35:52 AM
ASoundSo: I actually saw a movie so bad that when it was finally over, somewhere, a baby died. [I don't know if this is old or unoriginal but being french I found it funny and it was the first time I heard it]
ASoundSo: Terrence Malick...he should never be allowed to make another film. They should cut out his tounge so he cant direct.
ASoundSo: any noteworthy critic who said that is a good movie is lying his ass off. Terrance Malick is obviously in the Mafia. [untrue but funny]
bethie is uncool: every single one is 5 stars and makes cinephiles cream their pants
bethie is uncool: maybe some day youll understand [hahaha wtf]
bethie is uncool: when you see as many films as i have and great ones at that, youll know whats good and whats great and what isnt worth your time
bethie is uncool: the new world was on all the critics top ten list b/c theyve all seen great film and they realize what a great film is and that is, the new world
ASoundSo: I beg to differ. I have probably seen just as many or close to it that you have and I know whats makes a good film. Its more than just a critic liking it. A film can be great to a critic, but if people other than movie critics dont like it, then its not a great film. it takes both critics and general population to adore a film to make it great [anyone who doesn't agree with that is wrong if you ask me]
bethie is uncool: the new world has a cult following already
ASoundSo: what is so good about it. maybe I can be convinced to join the cult [hahahhaha]
ASoundSo: but I officially rank him next to Stanley Kubrick in my overrated directors file. This file is set aside for directors who do brilliant work, but then later on do crappy work that gets called brilliant because of their previous brilliant work. [seriously, yes]
Seriously man I disagree with basically everything you say bethie and agree with most (I like Malick though I hate New World) of what the other guy says even if that makes me a stupid retard
Quote from: Bethie on May 15, 2006, 03:35:52 AM
ASoundSo: I beg to differ. I have probably seen just as many or close to it that you have and I know whats makes a good film. Its more than just a critic liking it. A film can be great to a critic, but if people other than movie critics dont like it, then its not a great film. it takes both critics and general population to adore a film to make it great
Quote from: Pas Rap on February 18, 2007, 07:57:30 PM
[anyone who doesn't agree with that is wrong if you ask me]
by this logic Crash is a great film and that is wrong if you ask me.
Quote from: Bethie on May 15, 2006, 03:35:52 AM
ASoundSo: but I officially rank him next to Stanley Kubrick in my overrated directors file. This file is set aside for directors who do brilliant work, but then later on do crappy work that gets called brilliant because of their previous brilliant work.
Quote from: Pas Rap on February 18, 2007, 07:57:30 PM
[seriously, yes]
... even if that makes me a stupid retard
you're a stupid retard.
Quote from: Pubrick on February 19, 2007, 12:49:39 AM
Quote from: Bethie on May 15, 2006, 03:35:52 AM
ASoundSo: I beg to differ. I have probably seen just as many or close to it that you have and I know whats makes a good film. Its more than just a critic liking it. A film can be great to a critic, but if people other than movie critics dont like it, then its not a great film. it takes both critics and general population to adore a film to make it great
Quote from: Pas Rap on February 18, 2007, 07:57:30 PM
[anyone who doesn't agree with that is wrong if you ask me]
by this logic Crash is a great film and that is wrong if you ask me.
Quote from: Bethie on May 15, 2006, 03:35:52 AM
ASoundSo: but I officially rank him next to Stanley Kubrick in my overrated directors file. This file is set aside for directors who do brilliant work, but then later on do crappy work that gets called brilliant because of their previous brilliant work.
Quote from: Pas Rap on February 18, 2007, 07:57:30 PM
[seriously, yes]
... even if that makes me a stupid retard
you're a stupid retard.
Fuck you are right about the Crash thing. I'll have to think about it further. Still your love for New World blinds you from the fact that bethie looked like a real 'poser' (is that an english word) in that log while the guy was pretty truthful/authentic.
Quote from: Pas Rap on February 19, 2007, 09:32:30 AM
Fuck you are right about the Crash thing. I'll have to think about it further. Still your love for New World blinds you from the fact that bethie looked like a real 'poser' (is that an english word) in that log while the guy was pretty truthful/authentic.
i don't care about the new world as much as i think the guy was invalidated when he dissed kubrick. that was a bigger poser thing to say, that their older stuff is better than their new stuff. only an idiot would say that about kubrick.
What Mike (ASoundSo) is basically saying that if the general public doesn't go to a great film then it's not a great film. So to him, every blockbuster is a great film. His favourite movies are shit like Varsity Blues, Troy, V For Vendetta, etc. He tells me he's seen as many or more films than me,maybe he has, but for him thats only movies after 1985. He is someone who says Bette Davis over acts and is obsessed with Jennifer Love Hewitt. He shouldn't even be able to comment on film because it's something he doesn't know anything about. Hence the stupid comments.
and to laugh when I said "maybe some day you'll understand"? I tried to help Mike out, show him what great films are, he's just someone that doesn't get it. meanwhile he's standing inline for Hannibal Rising.
Brian Robbins, who directed Norbit and co-produced Wild Hogs, has taken a swing at the critics who swung at those two movies when they were released last month. "If you read reviews on a consistent basis on all films, you realize that the majority of films just get murdered," Robbins told today's (Thursday) Hollywood Reporter. "The only films that get good reviews are the ones that nobody sees. I just don't think you can make movies for critics." Both Norbit and Hogs have proved to be huge hits, despite their critical shellacking. What Robbins says he has learned from the success of the two films: "Don't pay attention to tracking and don't read the reviews."
- imdb
haha you know that news was cooked when they called movies that I've never ever heard of "huge hits".
Quote from: Brian Robbins
I shit for money.
GET. READY. FOR THIS ONE
dumb girl: have you seen borat?
me: yeah.
dumb girl: is it a good movie?
me: yes.
dumb girl: is borat a real person?
me: [pause] no..
dumb girl: who is he?
me: have you seen da ali g show? he's --
dumb girl: oh my god i love the ali g show.
me: uh, that's the guy who plays borat. and borat was --
dumb girl: oh my god really? no way!
EPILOGUE
dumb guy walks by and interrupts.
dumb guy: ali g has made five movies, one for each character. [turns to me] you should see the ali g show, it's hilarious.
Overheard by a friend at a movie theater: "Grindhouse was the worst film since Brazil."
during the end credits of INLAND EMPIRE:
fucking idiot: oh that was laura dern?
pretty much exact quote:
"i loved that movie about the Irish police in New York.. Departed! oh and The Prestige and The Illusionist! they were great. don't remember which is which though."
Recently, I watched Fried Green Tomatoes with a friend. It was her favorite movie and I enjoyed it. Afterwards we drove somewhere and were discussing the film. We got into an argument about the two lead actors. I was convinced that Mary Louise Parker played Idgie and Mary Stuart Masterson played Ruth. I was so convinced about it that I made a bet with her on it. She kept laughing at me for being so dumb and I kept making jokes about what I'd spend my winnings on when she had to pay up. I thought I was right in the worse way. So we got to my apartment and I looked it up and.....was a dollar poorer. She still reminds me how much of an idiot I am. I can't deny it.
See, I thought the actress who played Watts in Some Kind of Wonderful was Mary Louise Parker. I don't know. I had never seen her in anything else and got it into my head she was the actress in that film. I'm an idiot because when I looked it up I didn't realize how wrong someone could be.
my friends and I lost an $100 pot in pub trivia by betting all of our points on which actress was thelma and who was louise. I'm still confused.
Quote from: pete on August 16, 2007, 11:17:16 AM
my friends and I lost an $100 pot in pub trivia by betting all of our points on which actress was thelma and who was louise. I'm still confused.
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Here's a good one from an "overrated directors" thread.
Dr. Ifto: Stanley Kubrik
DML: What movies have you seen of his? Just curious.
Dr. Ifto: CLockwork Orange, 2001, Dr. StrangeloveThe Shining, Eyes wide shut, and Apocolypse now. I just can not get into his movies. The only 2 I thought were any good, is The Shining and Dr Strangelove. But those 2 movies does not make this guy a good director. I really think he sucks.
DML: Apocalypse Now is Francis Ford Coppola.
Dr. Ifto: Doh, i could have sworn it was kubrick though, it had his boredom written all over it...
Just please...die.
Here's a priceless one about Scorsese:
Luna: I think he sux. I'm sick an tired of people going on about how great he is convincing me to watch his caca movies and then being bored to death by every one of them. I did catch myself falling asleep in the theater, a full house yet, for Kundun. And that was when I wanted to be a Buddhist. He takes subjects I should be interested in and makes them into cinematic matzoh. The overrated movies of his that I've seen are Goodfellas, The Last Temptation of Christ, Gangs of New York, The Aviator, Mean Streets, andThe Age of Innocence. All crap. What's worse are the ones that aren't overrated. People should be thrown out of Hollywood for crap like New York, New York and Bringing Out the Dead. The puke emoticon is too cute to express how I feel about that last one. Oddly enough the only one that I think was equal to it's hype was Casino and even that was a little funky.
What I want to know is where did he get this "greatest living American director" tag? The first person I heard say it was Jodie Foster. I don't know if she started it, but she should have ended it. I can't think of a director with a career even remotely as long as his or with the kind of hype he has that is even close to how bad I think he is in terms of delivering an enjoyable or even interesting film.
The reason I have no problem saying that Scorcese sucks, is because of my time that he has wasted. Look, I went to school with a bunch of film snots who knew all the things they were supposed to say about who's the greatest director and who's not and said them often. I know all the "right" answers, I just don't care to pretend that I believe the same things. If you want to take a movie here or there of Scorcese's and hold it up and say that makes him a great director, that's one way to go about it, I suppose. But when I look at his body of work I see mostly average-at-best movies, a few that really sucked, and none that would make it into my top 100 movies, probably even 300.
I'll say his best movies on the whole are Taxi Driver and Casino. Most people think that Raging Bull and Mean Streets are also superior. Now most people are going to give Martin Scorcese credit for that, but does anyone even notice that those movies also have someone else in common? Isn't entirely possible that the reason most of Scorcese's work is so acclaimed could be misplaced glory that should be directed at the star of those films? Robert DeNiro is considered by many to be the best actor out there. Maybe that's what makes those movies so wonderful in everyone's eyes. Maybe it's not Scorcese at all. Maybe he makes the shots, and when he points the camera at DeNiro that's when everyone is blown away.
That's my theory of where the hype around him comes from. I could be wrong. That doesn't bother me. But I do consider myself to be a movie fan. When I compare his films to the other films I've seen in my lifetime, they don't compete. There are young directors who've made a handful of films and have already surpassed him in my book, in terms of presenting the movie going public with interesting and/or entertaining work. I personally think movies should do that. Entertain you. Inform you. Make you think. Make you feel. Do something. Has anyone here ever shed a tear over one of his characters? I haven't. I'm not saying every movie has to do that, but that's what a lot of people go to the movies for. To be moved one way or another. Did any of his movies challenge your beliefs? Did they make you think? At best, they are stories about some guy and that's it. Imo, any connection that you get to his characters comes solely from the actors. He never has a hero, or takes a stand either way. That's why he doesn't win the Academy Award. People want to feel at the movies or escape from daily life. The experience of going to his movies for the most part is the equivalent of taking a lawn chair and putting it in the middle of the street and watching people walk by. Something interesting may happen but unless you know what the people you are watching go through everyday of their lives, their struggles, their demons, their redeeming qualities, at some point you're going to pick up your chair and go home feeling unfulfilled. That's what his movies do. They take pictures of people. Boring ones.
When I say he sucks, it's in contrast to his hype. Compared to how great he's supposed to be, he does suck. Look, this year he's up against Clint Eastwood for Best Director. Clint Eastwood is definitely not one of my favorite people. But having only seen Million Dollar Baby and Unforgiven, I can tell you quite honeslty that as a director, imo, he beats Scorcese by several lengths. If I hold up the two best movies I've seen from Scorcese to those, they're not even close. When I think of all the truly great directors out there like David Lynch, Francis Ford Coppola, Woody Allen, etc., who are kinda his age with the legacies that they have and then I keep hearing that this guy is supposed to be the greatest living American director, it baffles me. And like I said before there are directors like Tarantino, Paul T. Anderson, M. Night Shyamalan, the Coen Brothers, who I'm sure wouldn't admit to it themselves, but they could wipe the floor with him and they're kids compared to him in age and years in the business. For chrissake Kevin Costner and Mel Gibson could kick his ass. I'm sorry but when people go around comparing, Scorcese falls short. For some unknown reason, he's the guy. Someone somewhere decided that he was going to be the guy with the hype. But I guarantee you, if you find you the person who decided that and ask them what their favorite movie of all time is, it won't be a Scorcese movie.
I'm speechless on that one.
I actually read that long Scorsese post. As I found myself wondering if any actual point was going to be made, I did chuckle when the guy/girl said that even Kevin Costner could kick Martin Scorsese's ass. When everyone looks back to 1990 and sees Costner beating out Scorsese for Director's honors at the Academy Awards, I actually am siding with Costner. Even though everyone believes Scorsese was robbed.
See, Costner did some good work. Dances With Wolves was the stuff of tear jerkers and sentimentality, but he filmed with the scope of a John Ford film but also to the personal closeness of a small drama. He filmed the story to best match the themes. The film has a lot of story to cover and not all of it has to deal with the dying spirit of the Native Americans, but when he does need to envoke the grandness of their struggle, he allows the camera to take over great marches and buffalo hunting quite well.
This isn't the only way to film an epic Western. Costner himself proved it by setting much of the story of Open Range in composition to exemplify the prairie and land that the men are fighting for. Besides the end shoot out, it is simply a picturesque Western. The best part about Dances With Wolves is that the filmmaking has to deal with numerous subplots that require different cameras and scopes. I think Costner handled this with a lot competence being a first time filmmaker. Open Range just confirmed he had many gears in which to go after the Western story.
I'm afraid to think Martin Scorsese was on auto-pilot with Goodfellas. The composition and camera movements showed little variety than the stuff he did with other movies in the 1980s. Scorsese did add complexity in shots and edits with Casino, but with Goodfellas that yet wasn't the case. As Pauline Kael noted, the one new exception for Scorsese was that he filmed the drug experience very well in Goodfellas. So what? Henry Hill does allow drugs to take over his life, but the filmmaking mattered very little.
When Ebert and Scorsese did a top ten list for the 90s, Ebert tried to get Scorsese to admit he changed his filmmaking over the course of the years in the story to match the filmmaking trends of the decades in question. Scorsese only admitted to the music and production look changing for that. Ebert looked at the erratic camera movements later in the story to represent something more. As Kael correctly said, it was just him filming a 'drug experience'.
Then there is the story. Scorsese has always distanced himself from the romantic portrayal of gangsters in The Godfather and preffered to look at what he has done. Yes, he's told more realistic stories, but Goodfellas is barely a cut above The Godfather. The film makes numerous references to 1930s gangster films that depended on storylines that didn't fault the characters for always being in the wrong, but for messing up. Goodfellas, for 3/4 of the story, is a series of antics and crimes done by these mob figures. Henry Hill understands he screwed up everything and can't trust anyone, but he still looks at his past like he messed up a good thing.
The characterization is no different than a generic 30s gangster movie. The film asks little of Robert De Niro to act because his character is a walking cliche. The film ends with Joe Pesci standing in front of a black screen shooting bullets at the camera, the staple shot for those movies. The Godfather recreates the mafia as a romance novel would realize it and Goodfellas recreates it like Hollywood in the 30s had realized it. The Godfather is better made because of the excellent production, but when people ask me to recommend one over the other, I only pick Goodfellas because it's funnier and has one ounce more honesty to it. The film is based on a real story and real people, but molds them into a characterization that skims the surface instead of probe deeper into the heart of the matter.
See, Dances With Wolves isn't innovative or even grand, but it is better handled and the story is more important. Costner wasn't treading on new ground here. He was telling a story another filmmaker did tell, but that filmmaker was Sam Fuller who in the 1950s told a less than poular story in Run of the Arrow. Fuller saw Dances With Wolves and complemented it as homage. As Howard Zinn said in a People's History of the United States, there is great truth to whites leaving for Indian settlements.
But it's not bad to do a homage to a filmmaker who while wasn't very talented filmmaker, was telling daring stories. Scorsese also does homage in Goodfellas, but he does it for hundreds of movies that created different norms and tendencies in Hollywood. The only air of freshness with Goodfellas is that it had been years since someone had seen those direct shots and characterizations put onto screen. Even if they were already bad cliches.
Damn, I didn't expect to go this long. I think I wrote this for the wrong thread.
Alright, I'm going to follow up my unnecessary comparison piece of Goodfellas and Dances With Wolves with an actual contribution, even though I despise this thread. I dislike the word "stupid" in the context of the title of the thread. This thread does more for promoting us to lord over our supposed intelligence instead of just post funny comments or make fun of ourselves. So I wont call this comment stupid but it is ridiculous and only could fit here. It's a review from the 1970s for Truffaut's The Wild Child. It recalls a press conference Truffaut gave for the film,
"At a press conference after the showing of his new film at the New York Festival, Francois Truffaut was asked why he made it in black and white. He said that when he saw the zoom lens used in Pasolini's Gospel According to Saint Matthew, he found himself thinking there was no zooms lens in the time of Christ; and similarly felt there was no color film in 1798, the period of The Wild Child."
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on August 19, 2007, 04:01:17 AM
See, Dances With Wolves isn't innovative or even grand, but it is better handled and the story is more important. Costner wasn't treading on new ground here. He was telling a story another filmmaker did tell, but that filmmaker was Sam Fuller who in the 1950s told a less than poular story in Run of the Arrow. Fuller saw Dances With Wolves and complemented it as homage. As Howard Zinn said in a People's History of the United States, there is great truth to whites leaving for Indian settlements.
Damn, I didn't expect to go this long. I think I wrote this for the wrong thread.
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Quote from: Losing the Horse: on September 17, 2007, 12:45:01 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on August 19, 2007, 04:01:17 AM
See, Dances With Wolves isn't innovative or even grand, but it is better handled and the story is more important. Costner wasn't treading on new ground here. He was telling a story another filmmaker did tell, but that filmmaker was Sam Fuller who in the 1950s told a less than poular story in Run of the Arrow. Fuller saw Dances With Wolves and complemented it as homage. As Howard Zinn said in a People's History of the United States, there is great truth to whites leaving for Indian settlements.
Damn, I didn't expect to go this long. I think I wrote this for the wrong thread.
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No replies I hate more than ones like this. Is that suppose to undermine my stance on Dances With Wolves? Do you add anything with that? Or is it just a straight up asshole reply?
It was a legitimate contribution to this thread.
I think sometimes you consider it more important to have a position in opposition than to accurately consider the weight of what you are saying. Who was that guy that posted here who wrote about War of the Worlds being the birth of new-cinema? And not on any fucking day of the week are you going to tell me that Dances with Wolves is the greater achievement here because "he was telling a story another filmmaker did tell, but that filmmaker was Sam Fuller who in the 1950s told a less than poular story in Run of the Arrow." That's such heavy handed rationalization it's illegitimate.
But it was lighthearted. Rigid film theorists have their place. The canon should certainly always be questioned. There is yet more to room to move forward. I believe and agree with these things. Sometimes I just have to laugh at the amount of dedication you have towards reestablishing the parameters by which we're all supposed to be judging films.
Quote from: Losing the Horse: on September 17, 2007, 10:35:58 AM
It was a legitimate contribution to this thread.
No, you actually saying something is a legitimate contribution. Three periods after all I've written is just smugness. You may think I got a little too mad, but your post hit a pet peeve of mine.
Quote from: Losing the Horse: on September 17, 2007, 10:35:58 AM
I think sometimes you consider it more important to have a position in opposition than to accurately consider the weight of what you are saying. Who was that guy that posted here who wrote about War of the Worlds being the birth of new-cinema?
I don't give a shit about just being in opposition. I say what I believe in. I read what that guy said about War of Worlds. He said it with such minimal explanation that I didn't take it serious. I don't take comments without explanation serious either. That's why I explain because I know my viewpoints won't be taken serious by other people. The length of my post speaks to that.
Quote from: Losing the Horse: on September 17, 2007, 10:35:58 AM
And not on any fucking day of the week are you going to tell me that Dances with Wolves is the greater achievement here because "he was telling a story another filmmaker did tell, but that filmmaker was Sam Fuller who in the 1950s told a less than poular story in Run of the Arrow." That's such heavy handed rationalization it's illegitimate.
The Sam Fuller comment was an anecdote, but the position stands. Both Goodfellas and Dances With Wolves are Hollywood fluff. Goodfellas, as I've explained, deals with nothing new. It actually reverts back to older cliches of the gangster genre. I think the fact that Dances With Wolves is a nod to an unwritten part of history makes it more interesting to me.
Quote from: Losing the Horse: on September 17, 2007, 10:35:58 AM
Sometimes I just have to laugh at the amount of dedication you have towards reestablishing the parameters by which we're all supposed to be judging films.
There are no bigger motivations to my posts than to explain myself. Sometimes grand statements are made, but I've counted everyone on here as criminals to grand statements. I've also considered 80% of their grand statements illegitimate because I had no understanding of what they meant by it. I try to get people to understand what I meant by it.
This wasn't about A movie, but movies in general:
I was in a group in class, we finished the assignment early, so we all started talking about our major. There was a girl in the group who was a film major so I asked her if she had seen any good movies lately. Her response was, and I quote:
"I don't watch movies, I make them."
So I thought she was kidding and laughed a little, to which she corrected herself:
"Well, the movies I do see are only on a technicality, since they're playing at the festivals that I submit my material to."
owner of a movie rental store: is Pan's Labyrinth a horror movie or a thriller?
me: it's not really either.. it's more of a.. drama or fantasy.
..
if i had to pick one of those two i'd say horror.
owner of a movie rental store: yeah. horror! thought so.
Quote from: picolas on September 26, 2007, 01:17:19 AM
owner of a movie rental store: is Pan's Labyrinth a horror movie or a thriller?
me: it's not really either.. it's more of a.. drama or fantasy.
..
if i had to pick one of those two i'd say horror.
owner of a movie rental store: yeah. horror! thought so.
It's Foreign. Am I right, Lucid? :yabbse-wink:
its Mexican :)
Anything in Spanish for Americans HAS TO BE Mexican... there is nothing else than Mexico south of Texas. Actually one guy that reviewed one of our Argentinean films in Amazon one time said that our movie was Mexican, from a province in Mexico called Argentina... :ponder:
Quote from: kal on September 26, 2007, 01:57:01 AM
its Mexican :)
Anything in Spanish for Americans HAS TO BE Mexican... there is nothing else than Mexico south of Texas. Actually one guy that reviewed one of our Argentinean films in Amazon one time said that our movie was Mexican, from a province in Mexico called Argentina... :ponder:
Don't worry. For some dumb stupid fucks, Portugal is also a province in Spain. Long live ignorance.
Quote from: WalrusThis wasn't about A movie, but movies in general:
I was in a group in class, we finished the assignment early, so we all started talking about our major. There was a girl in the group who was a film major so I asked her if she had seen any good movies lately. Her response was, and I quote:
"I don't watch movies, I make them."
So I thought she was kidding and laughed a little, to which she corrected herself:
"Well, the movies I do see are only on a technicality, since they're playing at the festivals that I submit my material to."
What the fuck?? WHAT THE FUCK???
Quote from: Walrus on September 26, 2007, 12:26:44 AM
There was a girl in the group who was a film major so I asked her if she had seen any good movies lately. Her response was, and I quote:
"I don't watch movies, I make them."
So I thought she was kidding and laughed a little, to which she corrected herself:
"Well, the movies I do see are only on a technicality, since they're playing at the festivals that I submit my material to."
so.. did you hit that?
Quote from: picolas on September 26, 2007, 01:17:19 AM
owner of a movie rental store: is Pan's Labyrinth a horror movie or a thriller?
me: it's not really either.. it's more of a.. drama or fantasy.
..
if i had to pick one of those two i'd say horror.
owner of a movie rental store: yeah. horror! thought so.
We put in the Guillermo Del Toro section...right next to Mimic!
This shit happened a loooong time ago (when I went to a preview of Hero).
When the movie was playing, there was this stupid dumb-ass cocksmoker constantly talking in the seat in front of mine. I mean, he was just asking to be shooshed. We gave him some time to stop being an ass, but after five more minutes of constantly annoying shit, we told him something like this:
WE: Shut up in front!
THE GUY: Why, do you guys want to sleep?
That was followed by an unconfortable silence and after that moment of self-embarrassment, the guy didn't say another word.
Set-up: I work in a movie gallery in southern Illinois.
Me: did you see black snake moan yet, i really-
Man: Yeah I saw it, and i was offended that they made that nigger look like a hero---"
Me: . . .
Man: I would've hung that dirty nigger
Me: don't you think that's a little primitive?
Man: Well, it's either that, or drag him behind my truck.
another went something like...
Man enters store and i greet him
Man: (handing me pan's labyrinth)can i switch this out for something else, this one is all subtitles.
Me: yeah, sure, just pick something else out and we'll get you setup
Man:(after looking around) did you have this (pan's labyrinth) in english
Me: Nope, it's a spanish film, but you can exchange it for anything you want
(man goes to pick something else out)
Man: god, that's so dumb. why would someone make a movie like that?
Me: maybe, because not everyone is from america
people.
That first one never happened, the second one I believe. I worked in an Indie store for two years when I was in New England and luckily never got any of that because everyone who went in their were yuppie, hipster douchebags who could name all the filmmakers but never any of their films.
Quote from: Neil on October 12, 2007, 11:42:23 AM
Man: I would've hung that dirty nigger
Me: don't you think that's a little primitive?
Man: holy shit youre right! i never thought of it in that light! from now on kind philosopher, i shall only do good in life...
Quote from: The Sheriff on October 15, 2007, 01:33:00 AM
Quote from: Neil on October 12, 2007, 11:42:23 AM
Man: I would've hung that dirty nigger
Me: don't you think that's a little primitive?
Man: holy shit youre right! i never thought of it in that light! from now on kind philosopher, i shall only do good in life...
it's funny, i guess no one here has ever been to southern illinois...please, keep it that way. and sorry but, trying to convince racists (or any idiot) that racism is ignorant is only # 3 on the old priority list while i'm at work. maybe next time with the life lessons...
1. get this fuck a movie and get them out(with playguard, and a discount rental card)
2. Clean
3. teach people about the harm of racism, and how to achieve "the good" in his or her life
we all know how badly people listen to what you have to say.
I would just ignore The Sherrif. He's just having some growing pains.
But no one is disputing the fact that racism is present, we're just calling shenanigans on the fact that it was presented in that way. It's like if you said you were standing in line at taco bell and witnessed somebody jerking off and then vomiting into the food. No you didn't. You may have witnessed someone scratching their butt while they wrapped a burrito with no gloves on, but you never witnessed something that hardly ever happens.
Quote from: Neil on October 15, 2007, 10:44:02 AM
it's funny, i guess no one here has ever been to southern illinois...please, keep it that way. and sorry but, trying to convince racists (or any idiot) that racism is ignorant is only # 3 on the old priority list while i'm at work. maybe next time with the life lessons...
i didnt call you a liar. its just how do you expect that guy to respond? if hes ready to kill sam jackson from that movie for no reason, i doubt its because hes unaware his views are old fashioned. just recommend birth of a nation to him, or malcolm x
i was just simply shocked, i can't tell any person shit...i'm trying to tell you that i wasn't trying to be inspirational, or enlightening, fuck man, he's just some dumb redneck...and i really wouldn't make this up, it's stupid to even refute this, really, may not be word for word, but i'm not trying publish this shit...the same point comes across in the text, the way he meant it.
of course he meant it, thats why you cant change his mind. you can say whatever you want to rednecks, i was just making fun of the situation
Some good stuff about 2001: A Space Odyssey -
Dr. Ifto: Actually, I do like good movies, but I do not like this directors style. I said in another thread, that I hate his movies. He is over hyped as some god to directing, but his movies sucked, well after the shining, they sucked.
To each his own. If someone can say ID4 sucked, and I liked it, then I can say 2001 sucked. Something about watching apes walking around for 20 minutes in the beginning of hte movie just doesnt scream "This is a good movie".
If you look at my collection, I have movies that a lot of others thought sucked, but I thought were genious, like Vanilla Sky, Donnie Darko, memento, and so on.
Quote from: B.C. Long on October 20, 2007, 05:36:46 PM
If you look at my collection, I have movies that a lot of others thought sucked, but I thought were genious, like Vanilla Sky, Donnie Darko, memento, and so on.[/i]
I haven't heard many negative comments from people about Donnie Darko or Memento, despite me disliking both of them. Vanilla Sky however gets bashed way more than it should.
last nite during Into the Wild, When Alexander is going through all his items...
"Fuck yeah, a lighter!"
Quote from: B.C. Long on October 20, 2007, 05:36:46 PM
If you look at my collection, I have movies that a lot of others thought sucked, but I thought were genious, like Vanilla Sky, Donnie Darko, memento, and so on.[/i]
just be careful
Quote from: B.C. Long on October 20, 2007, 05:36:46 PM
Some good stuff about 2001: A Space Odyssey -
Dr. Ifto: Actually, I do like good movies, but I do not like this directors style. I said in another thread, that I hate his movies. He is over hyped as some god to directing, but his movies sucked, well after the shining, they sucked.
To each his own. If someone can say ID4 sucked, and I liked it, then I can say 2001 sucked. Something about watching apes walking around for 20 minutes in the beginning of hte movie just doesnt scream "This is a good movie".
If you look at my collection, I have movies that a lot of others thought sucked, but I thought were genious, like Vanilla Sky, Donnie Darko, memento, and so on.
That isn't stupid. He makes a good point. Taste matters for shit if you have nothing to say about what movies you like. As my signature says, ""What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." He's saying if someone just says they love 2001 then he can say he likes ID4 without any evidence and be just as right.
A thread on this board about a movie everyone hates is likely to have more interesting reviews and insights than a thread about a movie about everyone loves. The latter, it seems to me, always features the vaguest reviews that are based on personal feelings instead of any critical objective.
In the end, personal feelings is why people go to movies, but they don't mean shit to another person in convincing them that your perspective is smarter than anyone elses.
"Is this the line for the screening of Oil!?"
Oil! is the new Sydney.
haha, imagine if there is this whole sub group of people who think PTA is a hack because he ruined Oil!.
This isn't stupid, just ignorant. But man, annoying.
(on Videodrome, a local movie rental store with a good selection of cult movies)
Me: They have a lot of cult movies.
Girl: Cult? What do you mean?
Me: Like if you could think of something weird on DVD, they would probably have it.
Girl: Oh, like independent? Like from Sundance.
Me: .....yes.
To be fair, your description of a cult movie as "weird" isn't that great either.
You're right. I should've said: A cult film is a movie that attracts a small but devoted group of obsessive fans or one that has remained popular over successive years amongst a small group of followers. Often the film failed to achieve mainstream success on its original release, but this is not always the case. Sometimes the audience response to a cult film is somewhat different to what was intended by the film-makers, although usually a film that becomes "cult" started-out with unusual elements or subject matter.
And her response would have been exactly the same.
haha, I didn't say you didn't know what it meant.
"have you seen good luck chuck? it's like the funniest movie alive. it's all about sex but it's sooo funny."
14 year old girl....
"Have you seen Across the Universe??? Oh my god, its the best. It made me believe in love and music! It's so weird, but so great!"
that never happened.
that sounds really awesome actually. it's not stupid. theoretically speaking (if across the universe were a good movie for 14 year olds--I still haven't seen it).
Quote from: The Red Vine on November 29, 2007, 07:32:14 PM
14 year old girl....
"Have you seen Across the Universe??? Oh my god, its the best. It made me believe in love and music! It's so weird, but so great!"
How the fuck did you confuse Roger Ebert with a 14 year old girl?
Quote from: pete on November 29, 2007, 10:29:59 PM
that sounds really awesome actually. it's not stupid.
exactly. besides being an exact copy of the structure of hedwig's quote (which actually happened), it's not really a stupid comment especially for a 14 year old girl. even if the movie sucks, it's a smart comment about a dumb movie. good for her.. may she live a long and fictional life.
Quote from: Pubrick on November 29, 2007, 10:40:39 PM
Quote from: pete on November 29, 2007, 10:29:59 PM
that sounds really awesome actually. it's not stupid.
exactly. besides being an exact copy of the structure of hedwig's quote (which actually happened), it's not really a stupid comment especially for a 14 year old girl. even if the movie sucks, it's a smart comment about a dumb movie. good for her.. may she live a long and fictional life.
Totally. I'd imagine that her enjoyment from the film and what she took from it was a lot more honest and receptive than a lot of folks I've met that will praise a film by someone like Antonioni just to prove how much they "get it".
Across the Universe might be God-awful, but it wasn't to her.
Quote from: john on November 29, 2007, 10:53:46 PM
Totally. I'd imagine that her enjoyment from the film and what she took from it was a lot more honest and receptive than a lot of folks I've met that will praise a film by someone like Antonioni just to prove how much they "get it".
Across the Universe might be God-awful, but it wasn't to her.
I am replying just amplify your antonioni jab. I was just posting some links under kitano's thread, and while searching for it, I stumbled upon no less than four TOTAL BULLSHIT posts that name-dropped him while wasting words on good filmmakers. you know what a cynical, scholarly, but creepily enthusiastic analysis of a great film reminds me of? a cool kid doing a cool backflip into the swimming pool and then his stupid sidekick jumping up and down waving his arms in excitement, but minus the cuteness or the innocence. it's like, 45,000 words to say "look at this! this is not the movie, this is nothing!" this board should be like that stupid sidekick WITH the cuteness and the innocence. Lets all talk like 14-year old Julie Taymore fans.
Quote from: pete on November 29, 2007, 11:15:59 PMLets all talk like 14-year old Julie Taymore fans.
If that's not a marquee candidate, I dunno what is.
Quote from: The Red Vine on November 29, 2007, 07:32:14 PM
14 year old girl....
"Have you seen Across the Universe??? Oh my god, its the best. It made me believe in love and music! It's so weird, but so great!"
It just sounds like a fourteen year old. I know people who equate films and music with only inner emotions. One of my ex girlfriends described everything she liked by first saying "I loved....". Then she would name such and such film or such and such band. I wondered if any other feelings or thoughts mattered. This fourteen year old girl could be saying the same thing about everything she likes. People always have their own reason for liking something, but I've heard bland statements like that by so many people who should know better that its just become trivial to me. I don't take it serious.
It's not bad because it's just a fourteen year old. I had no comprehension of shit back then.
Quote from: Pubrick on November 29, 2007, 07:34:58 PM
that never happened.
Actually it did. It's becoming a word of mouth movie where I live. I figured it would be here for a week or two, but its been over a month and its still playing.
The comment is certainly not the "stupidest" thing I've heard, but it was still pretty amazing to hear considering my hatred for the film. It's like listening to women go on and on about "Pearl Harbor" or "The Notebook". Fine for them, but it doesn't get easier to listen to.
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 29, 2007, 11:42:01 PM
One of my ex girlfriends described everything she liked by first saying "I loved....". Then she would name such and such film or such and such band. I wondered if any other feelings or thoughts mattered.
at the end of the day, no.
Quote from: pete on November 30, 2007, 02:13:08 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 29, 2007, 11:42:01 PM
One of my ex girlfriends described everything she liked by first saying "I loved....". Then she would name such and such film or such and such band. I wondered if any other feelings or thoughts mattered.
at the end of the day, no.
Good for you. I can't argue basic emotions.
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 30, 2007, 03:06:57 AM
Quote from: pete on November 30, 2007, 02:13:08 AM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 29, 2007, 11:42:01 PM
One of my ex girlfriends described everything she liked by first saying "I loved....". Then she would name such and such film or such and such band. I wondered if any other feelings or thoughts mattered.
at the end of the day, no.
Good for you. I can't argue basic emotions.
I'll reply to my own post. My first instinct was dismiss Pete's reply because it was stupid, but my dismissal will be continuing evidence I am a basically a robot to the boy.
The point is that someone can love something, but it shouldn't be the end all description about a movie or piece of music. Both things are suppose to relate back to different experiences and memories, both of which are based in emotions and intelligence. To simplify love as the crown jewel of descriptive words and continually say it is not only blatant over use, but inaccurate as well. The Beatles said "all you need is love", but hundreds of years ago Dante said love came both with good and evil. It isn't the hallmark of all good.
To say you like or love something isn't important. What is important is how you love it. The description should be honest and detailed enough that by the end it isn't simple "love" at all.
I also don't buy the fourteen year old kid's idea that the movie was able to make her believe in love and music. As a fourteen year old, most of her experience in life was behind the bars of a crib. Even if she did have enough experience to credit a film for such an accomplishment, it would be bullshit anyways. Personal experience forces someone to take consideration to the feeling of love. Music is more complicated because Vladamir Nabokov admitted he never understood the appeal of it so a film has that possibility, but I'd still argue general experience would likely be closer to the truth. As I said a few paragraphs above, music and films compliments our experience and memories. Life has to be lived before the value of a work of art can be appreciated. I also remember the interaction in Finding Forrestor. Jamall Wallace, the up and coming writer, says a book taught him something (I forget exactly what) and William Forrester replied back, smugly, "You needed a book to tell you that?"
I don't know about all of what you're saying, dissecting a 14-year-old's opinion, regardless of gender, is working a bit too hard, since they have nothing to say (as you say, and I agree). I do like what you say about blanket-stating one's "love" for a movie, with no real support. I have a friend who always calls something "the best movie ever" or the "best whatever in the whole existence of the world" and I hate that. You say nothing by doing that.
Jim Emerson's been on a kick lately of critics passing off emotional opinion as meriting criticism with no evidence. I feel that's kind of the professional version of "love this/that" or "best episode ever"
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on November 30, 2007, 04:41:07 AM
The point is that someone can love something, but it shouldn't be the end all description about a movie or piece of music. Both things are suppose to relate back to different experiences and memories, both of which are based in emotions and intelligence. To simplify love as the crown jewel of descriptive words and continually say it is not only blatant over use, but inaccurate as well. The Beatles said "all you need is love", but hundreds of years ago Dante said love came both with good and evil. It isn't the hallmark of all good.
To say you like or love something isn't important. What is important is how you love it. The description should be honest and detailed enough that by the end it isn't simple "love" at all.
an educated answer to reassert an emotional response until in the it's not even emotional anymore will only satisfy a very minority group of people who don't really matter much to this world. I love observations, but I'm perfectly ok with them coming from journalists or kids on a message board; that's my responsibility to seek them out. to expect former girlfriends and 14-year olds to write love poems with words and phrases of your choosing to satisfy your suspension of disbelief, is kinda sick.
usually monsters like us internet people trip over our words two times over to describe a reaction, or break down the movie to pieces to single out what parts made you feel what, but in the end, are we're trying to do is to capture our feelings as precisely as possible. and many times I've seen people who are so tempted to just replace all of them with words like "love" and "hate". but on this funny network, we're held back by our duties to report information about the movies to each other. if someone's particular role in life does not warrant any such ridiculous duty, good for her. don't expect everyone you meet to turn into monsters.
Girls are dumb. You can't expect your girlfriend to have the same interests as you. That's what boyfriends are for.
Quote from: Gamblour. on November 30, 2007, 11:10:12 AM
I don't know about all of what you're saying, dissecting a 14-year-old's opinion, regardless of gender, is working a bit too hard, since they have nothing to say (as you say, and I agree).
Trust me, I wish I didn't have to write about that but I felt I did to just make my opinion known. The kid something potentially aware for a fourteen year old, but nothing meaningful overall.
Quote from: Gamblour. on November 30, 2007, 11:10:12 AM
Jim Emerson's been on a kick lately of critics passing off emotional opinion as meriting criticism with no evidence. I feel that's kind of the professional version of "love this/that" or "best episode ever"
Critics are always at the mercy of total endearment for one subject or another. I admire critics who bridge professional criticism with personal experience. So when they do go on an emotional tangent they are relating it back to personal history and experience. Criticism is considered the ultimate form of auto-biography. On one level you get to record the development of your thought intellectually but you get to also record personal experience. I prefer memoirs that are based on someone's experiences with other people and things instead of just with himself. The tale of someone's personal habits isn't very interesting. I think that goes along with criticism as well.
Quote from: pete on November 30, 2007, 12:51:13 PM
an educated answer to reassert an emotional response until in the it's not even emotional anymore will only satisfy a very minority group of people who don't really matter much to this world. I love observations, but I'm perfectly ok with them coming from journalists or kids on a message board; that's my responsibility to seek them out. to expect former girlfriends and 14-year olds to write love poems with words and phrases of your choosing to satisfy your suspension of disbelief, is kinda sick.
I ask them to do nothing of the sort. All personal feelings should only honor the person who feels them, but if that person wants to convey the importance of what they feel to others (which they always do), they should find adjectives and descriptions that go beyond one word. Their word choice is completely up to them, but the word love can just become redundant when over used.
Quote from: pete on November 30, 2007, 12:51:13 PM
usually monsters like us internet people trip over our words two times over to describe a reaction, or break down the movie to pieces to single out what parts made you feel what, but in the end, are we're trying to do is to capture our feelings as precisely as possible. and many times I've seen people who are so tempted to just replace all of them with words like "love" and "hate". but on this funny network, we're held back by our duties to report information about the movies to each other. if someone's particular role in life does not warrant any such ridiculous duty, good for her. don't expect everyone you meet to turn into monsters.
The monster description is dumb, but who says we want everyone to look at movies the way we do? You are going after us for saying someone who makes blanket statements about everything all the time looks disingenuous, but anyone can make that observation. They also often do. Most people understand the idea of redundancy if someone says they love something to everything.
Second off, you don't know my ex girlfriend. She certainly would consider herself of enough intellectual capacity to be able discuss and analyze with anyone, but her continuous expression of 'I love this' and 'I love that' went opposite of her ambitions and didn't help her case if she was trying prove herself with anyone. Which she always was. The fourteen year old's comments really can't be taken serious. She is still young enough to be a follower instead of being able to reflect on her experience and come to her own conclusions.
lets just pretend, for a moment, that I detest redundancy as much as you do.
if an overused word can be redundant, so can an overused combination of words, and attitudes. I'm sure to a lot of people, your arbitrary and systematic way of looking at films are just as redundant as "I love this", because you still end up being unable to relate your experience in words, no matter how many words are at your disposal.
secondly, it is disingenuous for you to follow up the 14-year old girl statement with a story about your ex-girlfriend, thus making both "I loves" redundant, and then all of a sudden pulling the rug when the argument no longer serves to your favor, going "Well, you don't know her like I know her." Of course I don't, but I thought I had all the information because of your redundancy.
and all of this is to serve that I am taking the 14-year old's comment very seriously. it doesn't mean it's to be taken literally, but right now, not knowing her nor the movie, sitting in my room before going off to work, I don't know what's there for me to dismiss.
Quote from: pete on November 30, 2007, 02:25:37 PM
if an overused word can be redundant, so can an overused combination of words, and attitudes. I'm sure to a lot of people, your arbitrary and systematic way of looking at films are just as redundant as "I love this", because you still end up being unable to relate your experience in words, no matter how many words are at your disposal.
I'm so happy you turned this into a personal attack. Are you going to be that new person that attacks the way I look at films? Last time I checked I was able to write sentences that were understandable and said actual things. You and the others who have attacked me don't care what I say. You take interest in how I say it. You criticize the platform from which I speak and question its validity.
Until you guys can actually start making connections between what I say to find total contradictions and arguments that supercede the other, you have no basis. You need to start finding evidence to support an argument to what I say is just arbitrary. This also isn't something you compare to the love argument. Love is one word and one description. Last time I checked my position on films wasn't so simple. I say various things about various films to support or go against them. You are taking on a large subject to make such an
arbitrary assumption.
Do I take it serious that people fault me? No. Because I've seen the same people who attack me compliment before for what I said about a movie. They start to attack me because I go against their favorite films. Some people don't like that and allow personal feelings to take over.
I did find contradiction, because you were using redundancy to illustrate one thing, all the while attacking the others for being redundant. that's not that personal; you think something is redundant, and I'm just saying, hey, you're redundant yourself, redundancy is such a bad thing.
also, I largely leave your opinions on films alone, and you should know that. I'll get into it every once in a while, but I don't recall in any recent memory. I only responded to you after you tried for the umpteenth time to uphold what serious filmtalk oughta be, at the expense of some stranger 14-year old and your ex-girlfriend.
thread split!
Quote from: pete on November 30, 2007, 03:05:24 PM
I did find contradiction, because you were using redundancy to illustrate one thing, all the while attacking the others for being redundant. that's not that personal; you think something is redundant, and I'm just saying, hey, you're redundant yourself, redundancy is such a bad thing.
Don't move on like you assume you made a good point. I didn't say I was being redundant and you still didn't prove your case to how I was at all. You associated my redundancy to how I review films. If you believe that then start explaining because it is a large claim to make with nothing to back it. Since I'm not here to just talk sports and say unfunny things in the Caption thread, I find it a little inflammatory.
Quote from: pete on November 30, 2007, 03:05:24 PM
also, I largely leave your opinions on films alone, and you should know that. I'll get into it every once in a while, but I don't recall in any recent memory. I only responded to you after you tried for the umpteenth time to uphold what serious filmtalk oughta be, at the expense of some stranger 14-year old and your ex-girlfriend.
You have no place to comment on my ex girlfriend. You don't know the situation. And about the fourteen year old, I said I didn't even want to comment on it. It was absurd to. She's just fourteen years old so who cares. I did it after the point as a wrap up to a position. Don't take it too serious.
This also isn't a thread split. It still encompasses part of the thread. Making it another thread gives credence there is any argument on the other side anyways.
Quote from: JG on November 30, 2007, 03:53:12 PM
thread split!
to what?
"In this thread we double post instead of using the modify button" :yabbse-huh:
GT, GT:
you threw your ex-girlfriend out there, with no information about her personality or the sound of her laughter, only to group her in the same category as the 14-year old that you love to hate. then when I asked you to be fairer to the 14-year old and the ex-girlfriend, you get mad like I just told you she was a bad fuck or something. You're mad because your text is misinterpreted even though what you wanted to say about your text was quite clear. then you got mad at me for not understanding the world outside your text. IMAGINE how people with knowledge about filmmaking must feel, then, when they read essays by academics who are doing that all day everyday?
I called your comments redundant because, no matter how many words you use, your attitude towards films is no less alienating than people who just said "I loved it" about everything. you're just as redundant, as the people you're trying hard to detest.
we seem to be taking on two opposite sides of some sort of discussion, but I bet, in the eyes of the jackasses with no investment into either of our stances, they'll just say "oooh now THESE are the stupidest things ever said about movies", even though we're arguing opposite things! That's because you're me, man. You say you're someone else with a very different eye for films, but soon emotions and contradictions betray your arguments. You're actually on my side, GT, arguing against yourself. Take a step back, and I guarantee you, that the ocean is as wide as the sky.
Back on topic:
Please stop assuming that Across the Universe is a bad movie.
Quote from: pete on December 02, 2007, 02:42:51 PM
IMAGINE how people with knowledge about filmmaking must feel, then, when they read essays by academics who are doing that all day everyday?
I called your comments redundant because, no matter how many words you use, your attitude towards films is no less alienating than people who just said "I loved it" about everything. you're just as redundant, as the people you're trying hard to detest.
Alright asshole, I warned you. I told you the comments were inflammatory and were being taken as personal attacks. I told you to put some actual argument behind it because it's just a slam. You're not making a good point. The idea the world of the artist and critic alienates the other is stupid. You sound like a moron who assumes people who know anything about filmmaking have no regard for ANY critical observation. You're going to lump me with academics? Do you realize how UNLIKE academics my reviews are? I'm continually criticized on the academic front for being too personal. You attacking me for it shows how little you fucking know.
I'm closer to a general film critic who mixes intellectualism with emotions. I think it is purposeful to mix both. I really do. I just don't show emotions by saying how much feeling I had for a film on the ride home from the theater. I try to mix it in other ways. Look at my Into the Wild review. I took consider of the imperfections and made a comment about how they worked. Sounds like an academic review, but it's me giving into the power of the film. There are other ways to show emotions than talking like a ten year old, which you seem to do a lot of.
Here's the deal. I have been disingenuous with my some of my arguments on here. You were right to make the assumption earlier. See, you've showed me a lot of your short movies and asked for my comment. At first I gave you general "Hey, good job" stuff. A friend just supporting another. But the more films you showed me, the more I felt like I had to say something. So I asked you if you took notice of general filmmaking education at all. I thought the question could maybe lead into something, but you immediately got high and mighty by saying you didn't need it. Haha, you fucking do man. Stop representing the filmmaking world and learn a few basics. Your editing is everywhere and your compostion seems to have no structure. You want a style that seems like it was filmed on the go, but your filmmaking reminds me of the quote from Bull Durham, "He fucks like he pitches...sorta all over the place." Another name for amateur hour if you don't get the reference. Sound like a slam? Yea, I know the feeling. So you can now forever disregard my reviews because my post in Art Gallery about your short film, a very exasperated "Hey, great job!", is total bullshit. Haha, it really is.
Last summer, I had a friend complain to me about his girlfriend so much I told him to dump her. I finally said if he didn't I'd break his nose. He took me so seriously he dumped her the next day. If I ever meet you, I'm going to do the same, but not out of friendship.
Quote from: pete on December 02, 2007, 02:42:51 PM
we seem to be taking on two opposite sides of some sort of discussion, but I bet, in the eyes of the jackasses with no investment into either of our stances, they'll just say "oooh now THESE are the stupidest things ever said about movies", even though we're arguing opposite things! That's because you're me, man. You say you're someone else with a very different eye for films, but soon emotions and contradictions betray your arguments. You're actually on my side, GT, arguing against yourself. Take a step back, and I guarantee you, that the ocean is as wide as the sky.
Haha, like anyone else can understand that fucking paragraph.
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on December 02, 2007, 03:50:44 PM
Last summer, I had a friend complain to me about his girlfriend so much I told him to dump her. I finally said if he didn't I'd break his nose. He took me so seriously he dumped her the next day. If I ever meet you, I'm going to do the same, but not out of friendship.
cron, thor, mogs and overme... and now, GT and pete.
so many brawls. i feel excluded.
if i ever meet you,
DrumminDirector, i'm gonna make you bite the fucking curb!
Would you like me to punch you in the mouth?
yes.
dear GT: despite how angry you may be right now, your ex-girlfriend is still a dumb cunt.
Quote from: pete on December 02, 2007, 04:31:52 PM
dear GT: despite how angry you may be right now, your ex-girlfriend is still a dumb cunt.
You don't know her, but really, you two have a lot in common.
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on December 02, 2007, 03:50:44 PM
Quote from: pete on December 02, 2007, 02:42:51 PM
we seem to be taking on two opposite sides of some sort of discussion, but I bet, in the eyes of the jackasses with no investment into either of our stances, they'll just say "oooh now THESE are the stupidest things ever said about movies", even though we're arguing opposite things! That's because you're me, man. You say you're someone else with a very different eye for films, but soon emotions and contradictions betray your arguments. You're actually on my side, GT, arguing against yourself. Take a step back, and I guarantee you, that the ocean is as wide as the sky.
Haha, like anyone else can understand that fucking paragraph.
i can. it's almost as beautiful as what the 14 year old (never) said.
This is the best thread I have ever seen. I love it.
Someone should adapt this into a short film. It should be called "Redundancy, Lies, and 14 Year Olds".
Quote from: B.C. Long on December 03, 2007, 12:17:43 AM
Someone should adapt this into a short film. It should be called "Redundancy, Lies, and 14 Year Olds".
sounds like an Todd Solondz film.
my friend N'jeri said she sat in front of some college kid during There Will Be Blood and the kid wouldn't stop groaning. The kid also kept on squeezing his soda can and occasionally asked his date "where is this going?" and then after the movie got out, N'jeri ran into some guy who said "Upton Lewis must be spinning in his grave."
I actually googled upton lewis to see how many people have confused upton sinclair and sinclair lewis, turned out only one person has, and it was Vladimir Nabokov!
Quote from: pete on January 07, 2008, 02:21:09 AM
"Upton Lewis must be spinning in his grave."
i'm sure he meant:
Quote from: Pubrick on July 13, 2006, 04:56:14 AM
jerry lewis must be rolling in his bed.
spoils for Diving Bell And The Butterfly
At the end of 'The Diving Bell And The Butterfly' the card comes up with says he died 10 days after his book was published. And a woman a few seats across from me went "What? Is this based on a true story?"
owner of video store: did you see No Country For Old Men?
me: yeah. i saw it thrice.
owner: why is it a good movie? i don't understand. it's just.. killing and violence..
me: well. i thought it was--
owner: *turns around, walks to another part of the store, never brings it up again*
Recently someone at another forum said he found Requiem For A Dream a ridicilous film. I thought Requiem was quite good, so I asked him what he didn't like about the movie. His response:
"The storylines of Harry and the black guy are kind of allright. But the storyline of the grandma ruins the movie! It was so irritating and boring. I nearly fell asleep during any scene with the grandma if it wasn't for the noise that refrigerator kept making. With the storyline about the grandma, I'd rate the movie 4/10. Without it I would've given it 7/10"
Quote from: Tortuga on April 25, 2008, 09:02:50 AM
Recently someone at another forum said he found Requiem For A Dream a ridicilous film. I thought Requiem was quite good, so I asked him what he didn't like about the movie. His response:
"The storylines of Harry and the black guy are kind of allright. But the storyline of the grandma ruins the movie! It was so irritating and boring. I nearly fell asleep during any scene with the grandma if it wasn't for the noise that refrigerator kept making. With the storyline about the grandma, I'd rate the movie 4/10. Without it I would've given it 7/10"
introduce yourself here (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=2.735).
deja vu all over the place...
sweeney todd ends, lights on, some guy says: "fucking bullshit"
cloverfield ends, lights on, some guy says: "this is it? fucking bullshit"
no country for old men ends, lights on, the guy behind me says: "so? and then what? that's it? stupid fucking movie"
there will be blood ends, lights on, american kids say: "that was awful", "you know why i hated it? the music, it was so annoying"
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD ! I have found the foolishest boy in the village !
This boy ! I was a'walkin to the cornerstore and Jim, that's the name o' the boy, comes up to me with his dirty face and he has in his hands a pirated version of the movie Sex in The City !
And he goes : ''This is the best movie I have ever seen in a totally non sarcastic way. I can burn it for you if you like''
I swears tis not shenanigans
Overheard about half-way through the film:
"Thought this was called, Inglorious Basterds, not French Chick... She's hot, though."
haha best review of the film i've read yet! :yabbse-thumbup:
Quote from: MacGuffin on August 22, 2009, 11:59:28 PM
Overheard about half-way through the film:
"Thought this was called, Inglorious Basterds, not French Chick... She's hot, though."
hahahahhaha awesome
Co-worker - I watched 500 days of summer last night,
Me - How was that?
Co-worker- Ya, know how they say it's not a love story? Man, that's true, it really is a story about love.
I was talking to a girl the other day who said that Werner Herzog just makes "guy movies." I thought that was a ridiculously reductionist view of his films, but I don't meet many people who have actually heard of Herzog. FWIW she said she likes his documentaries.
"Antichrist was so stupid. It's a film where nothing happens. All that happens is a husband and wife are fucking, their kid dies, she goes into shock, the husband tries to help her with therapy, she goes crazy, cuts off her clit and mutilates his cock. The whole time I was like 'When is something going to HAPPEN?'"
hahaha I guess she meant 'When is something going to HAPPEN...that isn't so god damn insane or doesn't make me want to vomit?"
FYI: it was a guy who said it. FWIW: he's gay.
the way you wrote it it sounded so feminine, so I guess it makes sense!
well i've seen at the videostore where i work, literally too many couples who arrive for movies and like fucking robots, the girls goes to the romcom section and the guy to the action films. really, why don't they just dress in blue and pink while they're at it?
Someone left a Cosmopolitan out at work and we were all laughing at it, particularly where it suggests for girls to "Go ahead and enjoy a shoot-em-up action flick with your beau once in a while so he has no choice but to go see lovey-dovey chick flicks with you!"
Quote from: Ravi on November 26, 2009, 08:06:36 PM
I was talking to a girl the other day who said that Werner Herzog just makes "guy movies." I thought that was a ridiculously reductionist view of his films, but I don't meet many people who have actually heard of Herzog. FWIW she said she likes his documentaries.
I'm in love.
Quote from: pete on December 09, 2009, 12:28:37 PM
Quote from: Ravi on November 26, 2009, 08:06:36 PM
I was talking to a girl the other day who said that Werner Herzog just makes "guy movies." I thought that was a ridiculously reductionist view of his films, but I don't meet many people who have actually heard of Herzog. FWIW she said she likes his documentaries.
I'm in love.
She's seeing someone else.
Studio chief urges theater operators to trade in popcorn for peaches
Source: Los Angeles Times
Hold the butter on that popcorn.
Sony Pictures Entertainment Chief Executive Michael Lynton called on the nation's biggest circuits to think about the waist lines of their customers, not just their own bottom lines.
In a speech at the nation's largest theater convention in Las Vegas, Lynton urged theater owners to offer healthier snacks at their concession stands and not simply rely on the usual fare of candy, popcorn and soda.
"Adding healthier options to your existing menu is the right thing to do for our industry, for audiences and for our country," Lynton said at the annual movie industry convention known as ShoWest.
Lynton cited the childhood obesity epidemic and a poll conducted by Sony that found two-thirds of moviegoers and three-quarters of parents are more likely to buy healthy snacks at theaters if they are offered them.
As for what kinds of healthy snacks he had in mind, Lynton said: "I don't thinks giant tubs of spinach or broccoli's a good idea. And nobody wants to eat cauliflower while watching Spider-Man or drink a 40-ounce cup of prune juice."
man fuck popcorn,. i don't eat that shit at the movies cos i don't eat it at home.
butter on it? makes me sick to think about. on top of what a waste of money it is, it gets all messy, all over your clothes and in your teeth, it's not even filling, it's not a great snack cos it's like pretzels you get dry mouf. the salt is nice but that's about it. i usually just bring a bottle of water from home which i reach for only in long movies when the air conditioning of the theatre makes my throat a bit dry.
seriously the fewer distractions the better.
Popcorn is great! Movie popcorn sucks.
I love making some popcorn at home. Pop it in olive oil on the stove, add some salt... delicious.
The problem with movie popcorn is that it's cooked in too much oil and is drown in butter. Popcorn is pretty healthy if you don't slather it with that shit.
I don't buy concessions at the regular theater save for the occasional diet soda. If I buy something, it's at the drafthouse. More theaters SHOULD offer stuff other than candy and popcorn, but trying to get theaters to get rid of popcorn is basically asking them to go out of business.
Deliverance: "It wasn't realistic. They should have brought a knife or something."
Twenty minutes of discussion follows.
My reaction: :shock:
Almost quit film analysis class.
They had a huge bad ass bow didn't they?
I'll just leave this right here. (http://storynotesfromhell.com/)
There goes my productivity for the rest of the afternoon.
Not the dumbest thing I've heard, but one person told me they didn't like PDL because it made them feel awkward and uncomfortable. I thought that was kind of the point?
"Awkward and uncomfortable" was always my favorite section in the video store.
Actually second favorite, next to "intense and crushing." (See: Dancer In the Dark.)
my brother's one word review of PDL:
" it was....sad "
I think if you haven't felt like Barry before, you can't help but pity him. Otherwise, you'll find funny written all over the movie.
or you find it sad.
on the new John Carter trailer
"omg, they totally ripped off the Godzilla soundtrack!"
Thanks for giving me the option to upvote that opinion!
thanks for being another drama i had here