here's an example
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it offers insights on the effects and implications of death, explores the way human beings attempt to understand it, the way it changes people. death isn't just something that happens to move the plot forward.
another great example is Magnolia.
what are other good movies that deal seriously with death?
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why do you ask?
the thin red line
death in venice
mar adentro
limelight
though I think these films are as much about life as they are about death, I don't know....
my two favorites movie about death would be To Live and Little Dieter Needs to Fly. They're both about folks who don't question death with anguish like the rest of us, but rather, people who just struggle to get by, hoping that by living they can defeat death.
bleu
george washington
ponnette (which I didn't like)
ordinary people
northfork
shadows of our forgotten ancestors
porco rosso
ghost?
rushmore
crying out love, in the center of the world
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Interesting thread. While there are a multitude of narrative films that deal with death, this is a french documentary from 1981 called "Des Morts" or Of the Dead that i just watched recently. It shows the way death and funerals are treated in various cultures. Its shows the rituals of certain eastern societies juxtaposed with the way most Americans treat death. What amounts is similar in view to Baraka without the 70mm lense.
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Taste of Cherry
Wild Strawberries
Cries and Whispers
The Seventh Seal
...ah hell, just about any Bergman flick
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Quote from: picolas on July 16, 2006, 04:45:21 AM
why do you ask?
i'm obsessed with death, big subject with me. i have a very pessimistic view of life. you should know this about me if we're gonna go out.
Moonlight Mile. It's a great and wonderful film about dealing with the death of a loved one. What I like about it is the fact that once the movie starts, the dead character has already died, and it focuses more on the family dealing with life without her. Anybody can show the tragic events that lead to a death, and the grief that the other characters feel, but it takes real magic (for lack of a better word), to show what happens once the tears are gone. Life goes on after that, and it was really moving to see how the characters (played by Dustin Hoffman as the father, Susan Surrandon as the mother, and Jake Gylenhall as the dead girl's ex-fiance) continued on with their lives. Some very interesting twists and revelations as well.
And I'm sure The Lovely Bones could make a good addition to this list, too, provided that Peter Jackson doesn't screw the movie up by making it melodramatic and full of slow motion shots and over-the-top music, you know, like every other movie he does.
Quote from: Derek237 on July 17, 2006, 04:58:22 PM
provided that Peter Jackson doesn't screw the movie up by making it melodramatic and full of slow motion shots and over-the-top music, you know, like every other movie he does.
i'm looking at you Dead Alive...
Quote from: Derek237 on July 17, 2006, 04:58:22 PM
Moonlight Mile. It's a great and wonderful film about dealing with the death of a loved one. What I like about it is the fact that once the movie starts, the dead character has already died, and it focuses more on the family dealing with life without her. Anybody can show the tragic events that lead to a death, and the grief that the other characters feel, but it takes real magic (for lack of a better word), to show what happens once the tears are gone. Life goes on after that, and it was really moving to see how the characters (played by Dustin Hoffman as the father, Susan Surrandon as the mother, and Jake Gylenhall as the dead girl's ex-fiance) continued on with their lives. Some very interesting twists and revelations as well.
That movie was how Brad Silberling dealt with the aftermath of Rebecca Schaeffer's death by an obssessed fan.
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Quote from: modage on July 17, 2006, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: Derek237 on July 17, 2006, 04:58:22 PM
provided that Peter Jackson doesn't screw the movie up by making it melodramatic and full of slow motion shots and over-the-top music, you know, like every other movie he does.
i'm looking at you Dead Alive...
and Bad Taste... oh, and Beautiful Creatures... and Forgotten Silver and Meet the Feebles and The Frigh.. oh, you know what... he's just talking about the two movies he's actually seen... I get it.
Every movie he does, not did.
I loved Brain Dead (or Dead Alive if you prefer), but let's face it. That was a long time ago. What he does now is completely different. So I don't think you "get it." :yabbse-thumbup:
Quote from: Derek237 on July 17, 2006, 05:55:28 PM
Every movie he does, not did.
I loved Brain Dead (or Dead Alive if you prefer), but let's face it. That was a long time ago. What he does now is completely different. So I don't think you "get it." :yabbse-thumbup:
Oh, you meant "DOES" not "DID"... but he DID the movies you're referring to (all both of them) so how do you know what the movies he DOES are like? OH, I GOT YOU THERE, DEREKTWOTHREESEVEN! maybe you don't "get" IT!
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Okay. How about I just try and explain myself, because I obviously can't give a simple opinion in passing without having RegularKarate bitch about anything I write.
The directing style that Peter Jackson uses currently, say from 2001 to 2005, in the 4 movies he directed (I don't really remember a 10 hour movie called, The Lord of The Rings, but whether or not you see them as seperate movies being chapters in a saga or one big movie doesn't really matter and is a pointless debate), is different than the style that he has used in the past, say about 15 years ago, with his B-movies with wicked senses of humour.
Another example: Oliver Stone. He did controversial politcal dramas that won oscars, and now he's doing epics (imo WTC seems to be of epic proportion).
But whatever. I don't see why you care so much about something so minute, anyway. It's funny how you don't try to argue with my actual point, but you'll argue about whether I've seen his movies from 15 years ago, or hey, how about my name? Yes, I have numbers in my name. That has nothing to do with the topic.
Movies about death, in case you forgot. But leave your asshole comments in my private messages, please.
Quote from: Derek237 on July 17, 2006, 11:13:52 PM
Okay. How about I just try and explain myself, because I obviously can't give a simple opinion in passing without having RegularKarate bitch about anything I write.
The directing style that Peter Jackson uses currently, say from 2001 to 2005, in the 4 movies he directed (I don't really remember a 10 hour movie called, The Lord of The Rings, but whether or not you see them as seperate movies being chapters in a saga or one big movie doesn't really matter and is a pointless debate), is different than the style that he has used in the past, say about 15 years ago, with his B-movies with wicked senses of humour.
Another example: Oliver Stone. He did controversial politcal dramas that won oscars, and now he's doing epics (imo WTC seems to be of epic proportion).
But whatever. I don't see why you care so much about something so minute, anyway. It's funny how you don't try to argue with my actual point, but you'll argue about whether I've seen his movies from 15 years ago, or hey, how about my name? Yes, I have numbers in my name. That has nothing to do with the topic.
Movies about death, in case you forgot. But leave your asshole comments in my private messages, please.
the only reason anyone "bitched" about the stuff you wrote is because it made no sense, or was at least extremely muddled. you were talking about the movies peter jackson does, ignoring the ones he did, and hope he doesn't apply the same style to the one he's doing?? ok then. :ponder: .. i can understand why ravi's head exploded.
anyway, you lost me with your oliver stone remark. "controversial political dramas that won oscars" is not a style. and still, i don't see why WTC could not also be considered a controversial political drama. i think the real problem here is that you don't know what you're talking about.
the son's room
Quote from: Pubrick on July 18, 2006, 05:48:14 AM
the son's room
yesss, i don't know how I forgot that one
Quote from: Derek237 on July 17, 2006, 04:58:22 PM
Moonlight Mile. It's a great and wonderful film about dealing with the death of a loved one. What I like about it is the fact that once the movie starts, the dead character has already died, and it focuses more on the family dealing with life without her. Anybody can show the tragic events that lead to a death, and the grief that the other characters feel, but it takes real magic (for lack of a better word), to show what happens once the tears are gone. Life goes on after that, and it was really moving to see how the characters (played by Dustin Hoffman as the father, Susan Surrandon as the mother, and Jake Gylenhall as the dead girl's ex-fiance) continued on with their lives. Some very interesting twists and revelations as well.
And I'm sure The Lovely Bones could make a good addition to this list, too, provided that Peter Jackson doesn't screw the movie up by making it melodramatic and full of slow motion shots and over-the-top music, you know, like every other movie he does. The Lord Of The Rings films and King Kong.
I hope everyone's happy with this.
And sorry about your head, ravi.
In The Bedroom
The Passenger
Ditto on the Bergman movies (I'd say try The Virgin Spring, though The Seventh Seal is indeed his ultimate meditation on death--watch it if you haven't)
And in their own way: Ratcatcher and Morvern Callar. Both begin with a death and are about life afterwards, which is partially why The Lovely Bones would have fit (perhaps too perfectly now that I think about it) into Lynne Ramsay's body of work.
Not to derail this but I think it's pretty funny that Derek237 is getting into a fight with one admin every thread he posts in.
Somehow, "funny" just doesn't quite do it justice. Having a crush on Natalie Portman, thinking Talledega Nights will not be as funny as Anchorman, and being extremely and unfortunately inarticulate when it comes to Peter Jackson appear to the hot buttons here. Oh, and of course, having numbers in my username. I don't mean to get in fights, obviously (who wants to get in fights?) but why do they have to be so rude about it all?
But, honestly I gotta give props to Hedwig. He can point out idiocy very effectively and reasonably, and doesn't even need to use caps! And yeah, I was way off-base with the Oliver Stone remark. Other than that I stand by my opinions.
But..funny? No. Fucking hysterical.