'Halloween' Returns to Hollywood
A ninth Halloween movie is being planned - as a prequel to the cult horror franchise. Plans to make Halloween: The Missing Years were shelved when producer Moustapha Akkad died in last year's terrorist attacks in Jordan, but writer Jake Wade Wall has confirmed to moviehole.net that the series is back on. Wall tells the site that the prequel will focus on the life of serial killer Michael Myers as a young man, before he was placed in a mental institution. Wall says, "I've been hired three different times for it (the film)... It looks like it's finally set to go. I know that they're (studio executives) in the process of nailing down a really big director but I haven't been able to figure out who it is yet."
Halloween prequel, now a sequel?
Another switcheroo for the next "Halloween" movie.... it seems.
According to HorrorChannel.com, Jake Wade Wall's script for the next "Hallwoeen" movie will not be the one being used now, apparently.
"Wall's script will not be the basis for the new film. His idea took place in the years before Michael escaped from Smith's Grove Sanitarium, which would be a cool idea if it weren't for the noticeable lack of Donald Pleasance", says the site.
"We can now tell you that the new Halloween, which will likely be officially announced any day now, will take place at Smith's Grove Sanitarium but will not be a prequel. It will be full-blown Halloween movie, complete with the trademark mask and slow gait."
Zombie plots new mayhem for 'Halloween'
Source: Hollywood Reporter
Rob Zombie is resurrecting Michael Myers, one of the big screen's favorite horror villains.
Zombie will write and direct a new "Halloween" movie, serving up what is being called as a brand-new vision for the long-running horror series.
Malek Akkad of Trancas International Films will produce the feature along with Andy Gould of Vision Entertainment Group. Zombie also will serve as a producer and a music supervisor on the film. Miramax Films will co-finance the development with Dimension Films.
The movie will not be a sequel or a straight-ahead remake of the original -- which helped director John Carpenter cement his name in the horror biz -- but a reimagining that will infuse new blood into the Myers story.
"The look and the feel is going to be completely different," Zombie said in an interview. " 'Halloween' started off as a very terrifying concept, a terrifying movie. But over the years, Michael Myers has become a friendly Halloween mask. When it came to the point where you could buy a Michael Myers doll that was cute-looking and press its stomach and play the 'Halloween' theme, you knew the scare factor was gone. But I think the story and the situation is scary. All it needed was someone to come in and to take a totally different approach to make it scary again. To me, that's the challenge and that's the fun."
The movie will not pay heed to the numerous sequels that have followed the 1978 classic, which introduced masked psycho serial killer Myers as well as the now-famous piano theme to the world.
"Everything that has come before does not figure into this one," Zombie said. "That series is done."
And while Zombie aims to keep the scares and the character more real, the mask will remain.
"That's an iconic image that can't go away," he said.
Zombie wrote and directed "House of 1000 Corpses" and last year's "The Devil's Rejects," which proved to be extremely profitable theatrically and on DVD. A lot of horror movies have been thrown his way, but he wanted to be choosy when it came to his third film.
Zombie is a fan of the original and said he sought Carpenter's blessing.
"He said, 'That's awesome, go for it,' " Zombie said. "He was very supportive, which I thought was very important. I feel like 'Halloween' is his baby, and I wanted to be very respectful."
An October 2007 release is being planned.
sounds interesting....i guess. but the whole 'its not a sequel and its not a remake' is complete BS. uhh, its a halloween movie with michael myers? its got to be one or the other.
either way it's gonna be shit.
It reminds me of when Kubrick passed on The Exorcist and then was aked to do the sequel and replied, "What can I do? Change the color of the puke?" Apparently that is the road of success for Rob Zombie.
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We begin our coverage of the next HALLOWEEN film with a short interview with writer/director Rob Zombie. Thanks to all the fans that submitted a question to Rob... we received over 2000!
Source: HalloweenMovies.com
QUESTION: Why do you feel that you are the person to take on this project? (from Anna in Florida)
RZ: Because I have a vision that I believe can work. If I didn't I would go near it.
QUESTION: Can you please clarify what you mean when you say you are "not making a sequel" and that your Halloween will be a "re-imagining" of the series? Isn't that just another word for "remake"? (from Cole in Chicago)
RZ: Well, sort of. I am basically making a prequel and a semi-remake of the first film all in one. So really in theory there will be more original content than remake content. That's why I don't like the word "remake."
QUESTION: What is the title of the next movie, and are you finished with the script yet? What can you reveal about the storyline of the new movie? (from Eric in Canada)
RZ: HALLOWEEN, no and not much.
QUESTION: For the next film, are you planning to maybe go into what Michael's childhood was like and how and why he became the serial killer he is? Is it at least going to take place in 1978? (from Sylvain)
RZ: Yes, I think this aspect of the story is very important in order to bring new life to the character of Michael Myers. The film begins in 1978.
QUESTION: Halloween is the most influential horror movie ever made and I for one am not happy about a remake. All of the remakes to hit theaters - from Texas Chainsaw to The Omen - were total crap. Why touch a classic like Halloween? Why would you even risk this? (from Mike in New York)
RZ: Like I said in Question 1, I wouldn't even go near this project if I didn't feel like a had a fresh, worthwhile approach to the material. Besides, I'm not touching one single frame of Carpenter's classic. That film will remain as it always has.
QUESTION: The masks in the past 4 Halloween films were all different, and some of them weren't scary. Are you going to re-design the mask, or will you stick to the Captain Kirk version that was used in the original film? (from Todd)
RZ: I want to keep the mask classic.
QUESTION: Are you you planning on using any previous characters from the first 8 films (like Laurie Strode and Dr. Loomis) or are you planning something entirely new with no old characters? (from Jamie in Scotland)
RZ: Both, but I won't tell you which just yet.
QUESTION: Since you are a musician, will you be doing the entire music score for the film, or will you be collaborating with anyone else? And will you integrate any of John Carpenter's classic themes into the score? (from Craig)
RZ: I do not plan on doing the score for this film myself other than in a supervisor position. I have already done some work with the composer and we both feel that Carpenter's themes are classic and will play an important role.
QUESTION: Your films are known for their gore, but the Halloween films haven't been very gory, they have been more suspensful. Do you plan to focus on gore or suspense in your version of Halloween? (from Paula)
RZ: I plan to focus on character, mood and terror.
QUESTION: How does John Carpenter feel about your involvement in the new Halloween? (from Zack in Georgia)
RZ: I talked to John about it and he was vey supportive. He basically said, "That's great Rob, go for it and make it your own." What more do I need?
Evil Reborn
Rob Zombie resurrects a horror classic
Source: MTV
LOS ANGELES, California — Horror remakes suck.
This simple fact is important for two reasons: 1) Based on the box-office success of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning," "The Hills Have Eyes," "When a Stranger Calls" and more, you don't seem to know (or care) that they suck; and 2) This bit of information is coming from Rob Zombie, the metal-titan-turned-writer/director who's just been handed the keys to the "Halloween" kingdom.
"Horror-movie remakes for the most part don't work," Zombie said, taking a break from audio mixes in his recording studio to unleash his inner fanboy (which is never that far from the surface anyway). "They just imitate the original. They don't try to do something new and different, they just follow it. And if you're going to follow the original, then there's no point because that movie already exists."
It's that kind of fan-friendly logic (refreshingly honest and driven by a deep affinity for the genre) paired with the unflinching vision displayed in 2005's "The Devil's Rejects" that has horror fans betting their 18-inch Michael Myers action figures that Zombie's take on "Halloween" will be a whole lot more than just another Hollywood horror retread. So far, so good, Zombie said. While shooting won't begin until January, with an eye toward an October '07 release, the script — Zombie's blueprint for reinventing a modern horror classic — is complete. There's more Michael Myers, more Dr. Loomis and plenty of variations on the original. ... Oh yes, there will be changes, but more on that later.
Zombie's fresh take on the remaking/re-imaging/reinventing thing — and his cred with hard-core horror fans — will be put to the test with "Halloween." Not to overstate the issue, but John Carpenter's stylish and chilling original is viewed with the kind of reverence and adoration usually reserved for doe-eyed emo bands and the leaders of suicide cults. A seminal scream gem beloved by millions of filmgoers (and aped by countless filmmakers), "Halloween" set the new standard, giving us the unstoppable boogeyman, the virtuous heroine, killer P.O.V. shots and multiple "whew, he's dead ... no, wait" moments ... all stolen by a generation of slasher flicks to follow, but none of them ever used as effectively as they were during Michael Myers' first foray to the screen.
"My first memory of the film is of feeling swept up in the excitement of this new thing that was sort of changing the rules for horror movies," Zombie recalled. "It's just a great movie as a movie. Before it spawned this whole generation of imitators, the closest thing you could relate it to was maybe 'Psycho' — it seemed like this simple, suspenseful, Hitchcock-style movie. But of course, when something hits, it gets imitated, and the parts that get imitated are usually the most basic parts. 'Well, if they enjoyed four teenagers getting killed, then they're really gonna like 13 teenagers getting killed.' That's what gets exploited. I always feel bad that 'Halloween' gets lumped in with [the imitators] ... it sits alone as a classic film on its own, much better than any of the films it ever spawned."
And taking on such a classic is no small feat (undoubtedly, expectations would be somewhat lower if Zombie were revisiting, say, "Dr. Giggles"). Zombie said he's seen "Halloween" hundreds of times, and admitted that he recently had to cut himself off after repeated viewings left him feeling handcuffed as he tried to tackle the script for his own vision. He's certainly not alone, though. Generations continue to discover John Carpenter's original, and its hallmarks — that expressionless mask and that relentless score — can instantly chill anyone who's ever taken the cinematic trip to Haddonfield, Illinois.
"I think the music and the imagery and everything involved with 'Halloween' is still effective because it was simple, and simple things are always classic and they last," Zombie opined. "I relate it to the Ramones. When they were doing it first, nothing sounded like that, and it's hard to believe that nothing sounded like that because everything sounds like that now. It's hard to believe there was a time that was never done."
So why take on such a beloved and influential work, especially at a time when Hollywood seems to mine a different horror classic (Did we mention "Dawn of the Dead" yet? How about "The Amityville Horror"? "The Ring"? "The Grudge"? "Dark Water"?) every month?
"The remake thing is done all the time, but it's not done well," Zombie conceded. "I don't think it's because someone feels inspired, it's done because someone sees money. Truthfully, if I couldn't see any way to do this, I wouldn't do it because it's a challenging project."
That challenge came from Bob Weinstein, the co-head of the Weinstein Company who sat Zombie down for a meeting and simply said, " 'Halloween' ... what do you think?"
"My first reaction was I didn't see the point of any of this," Zombie admitted, adding that he was turned off by what a string of uninspired sequels had done to the legacy of the original. "Then I went away and thought about it for a couple months and started thinking that that was maybe a weird attitude to have." Inspired by David Cronenberg's 1986 take on "The Fly" and John Carpenter's 1982 version of "The Thing," Zombie started to see the possibilities in reinventing the franchise, and "started thinking of ways this could be done and done right."
Which brings us to the multimillion-dollar question (and the buzz of horror sites everywhere): What can we expect from Rob Zombie's "Halloween"? For starters, he describes his film not as a prequel, as rumored, but rather as "a remake with more back story built into it," and plans to make the film less about babysitters in peril and more about the man behind the mask.
"I want the lead character to be Michael Myers," Zombie said. "He's not just a faceless thing floating around in the background and then you focus on these girls. I feel that that's where you can make it different and that's where you can make it more intense."
As he talks about his vision, references range from "Murders in the Rue Morgue" to "The Constant Gardener" and "21 Grams," and he grows increasingly animated as he hits on his main goal: exploring these now iconic characters in greater depth. He talks about beefing up the roles of Sherriff Brackett and the somewhat demented Dr. Loomis, the gun-toting child psychiatrist who serves as Myers' chief foil while spewing his unique brand of dark poetry ("I watched him for 15 years, sitting in a room, staring at a wall, not seeing the wall, looking past the wall, looking at this night, inhumanly patient, waiting for some secret, silent alarm to trigger him off. Death has come to your little town.").
"I felt the character of Dr. Loomis just popped in and out when they needed somebody to say something dramatic," Zombie observed. "I wanted his story to feel more intertwined with Michael in a way that means something, which they did in the original, but sometimes it feels like he disappears for a long period and then just pops up to go, 'He's evil!,' and then he disappears again for a while."
Zombie's eyes light up as he talks about casting his Loomis, and names ranging from Jeff Bridges to Ben Kingsley turn up on his very, very loose "what if?" list. "There is no shortage of late-50s, early-60s male actors that are amazing and would like to work more, probably much like Donald Pleasence at the time [he was cast as the original Loomis]," Zombie said.
But the beefiest role by far will be that of Myers. No longer a figure looming ominously in the background of an artfully framed shot, Myers — his motives, methods and machinations — will be front and center this time around, a switch Zombie thinks is essential to sharpen the blade a bit.
"One of the things that's happened over the years to all those characters is that they become friendly," Zombie added. "Michael Myers and Jason and Freddy and Pinhead aren't scary anymore because they're so familiar. I thought we have to find a way to go back and start fresh and remove everyone's preconceived ideas about what they think this character is because no one thinks they can be scared by it again. It's almost like Santa Claus."
That means trading in the unexplained motives of the mysterious, relentless killer of the 1978 original and exploring the motives behind the evil. "There's a lot of great stuff they hint at [in the original], but you never see. That's where I think there's potential to make something unique.
"When you research anybody, whether it's Charles Manson or Jeffrey Dahmer or Henry Lee Lucas and you see the things in their past, you go, 'Serial killer is the only job this guy was qualified for,' " Zombie said. "It makes it even more disturbing when you see the events that make someone have no concept of those things.
"The deeper you can get into a character's head, the further you will get under an audience's skin and the more it will unnerve them," Zombie added. "I think that people are used to these movies being a little bit tongue-in-cheek. You're not really supposed to really mess with them. But if you take it so seriously and there's no humor, it really gets to people. It doesn't happen that often. I remember ['Seven' was] the last time I was in a theater and people were walking out because it wasn't what they bargained for. People were saying, 'This is way too grim. I'm not going to survive two hours of this.' "
And it's hard to imagine places more grim than the inside of Michael Myers' head, but that dark, untapped space won't be the only new territory explored in Zombie's film. While "Halloween" purists will no doubt be pleased to note that key elements of the original — namely that mask and that score — will be intact, each will get at least a light touch from Zombie's brush. "There are even things about the original Michael Myers that bothered me," he admitted. "Like, he killed the only mechanic that wears a pristine mechanic's uniform. It's just things like that that bothered me."
Even the jarring 5/4-time piano melody of the film's main theme will be tweaked slightly, though Zombie plans to keep it rooted in the original. "It was the simpleness of it that became creepy," Zombie said. "It was sort of like the scary version of the opening credits for '[It's] The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown.' "
They're minor changes (certainly compared to the character development he's got up his tattooed sleeve), but Zombie hopes they'll go a long way to putting his unique stamp on a horror franchise in danger of being crushed under the weight of seven sequels, each less inspired than the one before. "I think a lot of the sequels didn't work because they were just sort of doing an imitation of that movie, and you can't do that," Zombie said. "You have to come from a genuine place of inspiration with what you want to do."
So with a script and timetable in place, Zombie is now moving on to casting and location scouting. "We're right at the beginning of when this all begins," he said. Of course, "this" refers to much more than moviemaking. It also means scrutiny and debate from a legion of hard-core horror fans. It means the watchful eyes of a studio hoping that a blockbuster can be reborn. And for Zombie, it means satisfying both of those ends while also making sure not to suck. Or, as the man himself concluded, "You have to completely reinvent the wheel, but keep the people that love the original wheel thrilled. It's a tricky balancing act, but I think it's totally doable."
Zombie Casts Dr. Loomis in Halloween
Source: ComingSoon
Halloween writer/director Rob Zombie has announced on his official Blog that he has cast Malcolm McDowell as Dr. Loomis in his new take on the classic horror movie.
Donald Pleasence played Dr. Loomis in John Carpenter's 1978 original and its sequels.
McDowell will join the previously-cast Daeg Faerch, who plays a young Michael Myers, Sheri Moon and Heather Bowen.
Dimension Films has scheduled an August 31 release for the film.
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AND DR. LOOMIS IS.......?
Well, here is the news you've all been waiting for. Who is Dr. Loomis? Well, the answer is..... the one and only MALCOLM McDOWELL ! Yes, lengendary actor Malcolm McDowell will be the new Dr. Loomis.
As many of you know A Clockwork Orange is my favorite film and I am a huge, huge fan of Malcolm. I know Malcolm will kick ass as Dr. Loomis. He is thrilled to be part of HALLOWEEN and is ready to make a new classic.
Quote from: MacGuffin on December 23, 2006, 12:03:11 AM
He is thrilled to be part of HALLOWEEN and is ready to make a new classic.
...As soon as he's done making HALLOWEEN.
No Rob Zombie no. Bad Rob Zombie. Who would have the inflated, misshapen balls to take on remaking Halloween? Who I ask you?
Quote from: MacGuffin on December 23, 2006, 12:03:11 AM
Zombie Casts Dr. Loomis in Halloween
Dimension Films has scheduled an August 31 release for the film.
seriously? SERIOUSLY? while you're re-imagining a classic horror film, (goddamn you Zombie, YOU should know better), maybe a release date somewhere NEAR HALLOWEEN might have been fitting for a film CALLED HALLOWEEN! you can tell the confidence they have in this film the fact they're steering clear of SAW IV by almost 2 months. Dimension, i'm going to kick you in the balls!
Tyler Mane is the New Michael Myers
Source: ComingSoon
After revealing that Malcolm McDowell is going to play the new Dr. Loomis in Halloween, writer/director Rob Zombie has also announced on his official Blog that Tyler Mane will star as the adult Michael Myers.
"I'm sure you all remember Tyler as Rufus from 'The Devil's Rejects,' Sabretooth in the 'X-Men' and the unstoppable Ajax in 'Troy,'" said Zombie. "Tyler is mean, lean and ready to bring you the most psychotic Michael Myers yet."
The new take on the classic horror movie is scheduled for an August 31 release.
Halloween Casting
The latest news on Zombie's remake.
Director Rob Zombie's remake of Halloween is shaping up fast. Casting is currently under way with Zombie making announcements via The Official Rob Zombie Halloween Page.
"I'm very, very excited about this bit of casting news. Dee Wallace Stone has joined the cast of Halloween as Cynthia Strode. Laurie Strode's mother," Zombie revealed. Pat Skipper has already been cast as Laurie's dad Mason. Stone is perhaps remembered for her role as the mom in Steven Spielberg's E.T.
The cast includes Malcolm McDowell (A Clockwork Orange) as Dr. Loomis and Tyler Mane (Sabretooth in X-Men) as serial killer Michael Myers. Mane previously played Rufus in Zombie's The Devil's Rejects. Daeg Faerch plays Michael Myers at age 10.
Zombie also recently revealed that Myers will wear the classic mask in the remake. "I've just seen Wayne Toth's finished mask for Michael and all I can say is [expletive]. It looks perfect. Exactly like the original. Not since 1978 has the shape looked so good. Wayne worked this sucker to death and boy did it pay off."
Halloween is set for an October 2007 theatrical release.
No Halloween This Year?
Zombie's remake reportedly delayed.
Although casting was under way and the commencement of principal photography in California was imminent, filmmaker Rob Zombie's remake of Halloween has reportedly been delayed while the screenplay is reworked.
The brouhaha supposedly began when Ain't It Cool News panned a draft of Zombie's script, which caused Zombie to retort on his MySpace blog: "I notice that so many people get crazy when someone you don't even know posts an opinion about what they think Halloween will or won't be. This is crazy. Do you really go through life influenced by the thoughts of others that easily? Anyway, things change so much in a movie, from moment to moment, from second to second that all I can say is : see it for yourself and figure out if you like it or not."
Bloody-Disgusting now reports that "what we've heard from industry buzz is that after the online fiasco, shock-rocker Rob Zombie is going back to the script and doing more re-writes, thus pushing the shoot back a bit, thus forcing the release back from it's August 31st date. We've called people on all fronts and can't get a straight answer, so I guess only time will tell the truth."
The site adds that Lindy Booth (Wrong Turn) and Agnes Bruckner (The Woods) are in the running to play main character Laurie Strode... if and when filming actually happens.
Quote from: Rob Zombie on January 18, 2007, 04:32:54 PMI notice that so many people get crazy when someone you don't even know posts an opinion about what they think Halloween will or won't be. This is crazy. Do you really go through life influenced by the thoughts of others that easily? Anyway, things change so much in a movie, from moment to moment, from second to second that all I can say is : see it for yourself and figure out if you like it or not.
fuck him. he's getting defensive because he knows what he's doing is just plain wrong. of all people, how could rob zombie think it was a good idea to remake halloween?
Kier, Dourif Join Halloween
The latest casting news on Zombie's redo.
Director Rob Zombie has announced the latest piece of casting for his remake of the slasher classic Halloween. The helmer revealed at his MySpace blog that Udo Kier (BloodRayne), Brad Dourif (Lord of the Rings) and Kristina Klebe have joined the cast.
Malcolm McDowell stars as Dr. Loomis, portrayed in the original films by the late Donald Pleasence. Tyler Mane is playing the masked killer Michael Myers.
Zombie revealed that Kier will play "Morgan Walker head of Smith's Grove Sanitarium," while Dourif will play the role of Sheriff Brackett. Klebe has been cast as Lynda.
Other cast members include William Forsythe, Daeg Faerch, Sheri Moon Zombie, Hanna Hall, Dee Wallace Stone, Pat Skipper, Adrienne Barbeau, Lew Temple, Courtney Gains, Ken Foree, Clint Howard, Danielle Harris, Danny Trejo and Daryl Sabara.
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Halloween - The new Laurie Strode has been found
The filmmakers just announced on their official MySpace site who will play Laurie Strode in Rob Zombie's "Halloween". The character was portrayed by Jamie Lee Curtis in John Carpenter's original movie. The new Laurie Strode will be played by Scout Taylor-Compton ("Wicked Little Things", "Gilmore Girls").
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I think Zombie is trying for the Guinness World Record for how many eccentric character actors you can stuff in one movie.
Zombie Kills 'Halloween' Theme Song, Revokes Myers' Driver's License'
Everything I've wanted to do I've done with this movie,' director says.
Source: MTV
PASADENA, California — In this sacred neighborhood, on this holiest of blocks, Reverend Rob Zombie is presiding over a ceremony of appreciation. "Halloween" fans have come to worship the artifacts, kneel on the lawns of the sacrosanct homes and hum along with the hymns. Now, after 30 years of faithful repetition, the director of "The Devil's Rejects" is continuing the ritual — just don't expect him to preach from the same Bible.
"Michael Myers does not know how to drive in this movie," the long-haired, tattooed filmmaker told MTV over the weekend on the set of his highly anticipated remake of one of horror's most beloved slasher films. "[Myers in the station wagon] always bothered me. They would always play that off like someone must have given him lessons, but you know no one gave him lessons! He's in a maximum-security prison! So, no, he doesn't drive."
It's one of the sure-to-be-controversial revisions that Zombie is making to the classic John Carpenter flick. Realizing that the blueprint has simply been Xeroxed too many times, the ultra-violent filmmaker is now entering the final scenes of an intense 38-day shoot with wrestler/actor Tyler Mane as Myers, 18-year-old Scout Taylor-Compton as imperiled babysitter Laurie Strode and Malcolm McDowell as the eccentric Dr. Loomis.
"I want to make Loomis a man with a tremendous ego," said McDowell, dressed in black and draped in a beige trench coat that evokes predecessor Donald Pleasence. "[He's all about] getting a book out of it, which of course he has done, he's a best-seller ... he's the psychiatrist whose lifelong work is Michael Myers. He's obviously not a very good one, is he?"
Zombie's flick is also aiming to up the ante in terms of action. "I remember coming in the first day and we were down in the basement, and there was Lynda [actress Kristina Klebe] lying nude," Taylor-Compton remembered. "I'm screaming, and here comes Michael, and we're doing knife stuff and slashing him, and me pulling wood [off the wall] and going through a hole, climbing out this little fence and he pushes through the wall and grabs me ... I love doing my own stunts."
Contrary to Internet rumors, Zombie's "Halloween" has no discernible time period and begins well before the original's opening scene of young Michael killing his sister Judith (Laurie doesn't even come into the film until the final third). Now, the 6-year-old slaughters five of his relatives and is then sent to Loomis' sanitarium.
"In one scene we do, he's completely blank and I'm trying to coax him," McDowell said of his work with Daeg Faerch, who plays a young (and verbal!) Myers. "He gets to deliver [lines], but of course the older Michael is completely [silent]; he doesn't say a thing, he just wears a mask and terrifies everybody to death."
Including innocent drivers, apparently. On this particular day, Zombie has the 6-foot-10-inch Mane dressed in green coveralls, his hands so drenched in blood that they look like red work gloves, wearing a scarred white mask and holding a massive knife. Hiding behind a tree, he watches Laurie and her mother Cynthia (Dee Wallace) putting up Halloween decorations in their front yard. Filming in the same neighborhood where Carpenter shot the original, Zombie allows cars to access their homes between takes, resulting in more than one brake light upon discovering a homicidal icon on their sidewalk.
"[Myers' trademarks] were perfect for the original because nothing had become iconic," Zombie said, insisting that his movie will explain many of their origins. "It was just, 'Oh, the jumpsuit; big deal, it's a jumpsuit,' or, 'Oh the mask; big deal, it's a mask.' "
"In this film, Michael has [the mask] as a child," said Wayne Toth, the special-effects makeup artist on the flick, explaining why the new mask has scars on it. "While he's away [at the sanitarium], this time he's buried it in the basement of the Myers' house. So when he gets out, he digs it up and it's rotten."
Among the other notable moves that Zombie is embracing:
· The Myers' house is much larger, with a battered porch, "No Trespassing" boards on the windows and a "For Sale" sign out front reading "Strode Real Estate - Price Reduced." A blue RAM van in the driveway belongs to an ill-fated boyfriend, and a climactic battle between Laurie and Michael takes place in an empty swimming pool in the backyard.
· In the original, Myers killed two dogs, even eating one of them; this time PETA can relax. "No, there is nothing like that at all," Zombie said.
· While in the sanitarium, young Michael makes masks out of paper — a bucket of papier-mâché versions of his famous mask was glimpsed on set.
· Loomis steals a Town of Haddonfield police car in the film, using it as his transportation.
· Don't hold your breath for a Jamie Lee Curtis appearance à la "H20." "There are no real cameos," Zombie said. "There is no one from the original film."
· Look for a genre veteran as Myers' new best bud. "Danny Trejo, who always plays the badass, is playing the one sympathetic hospital worker at Smith's Grove," the director explained. "He's been with Michael for 17 years there."
· Zombie has stocked the cast with veteran actors like Udo Kier ("He's the head of Smith's Grove"), Tom Towles ("He plays a councilman who is at [Myers'] parole hearing"), Adrienne Barbeau ("She has a brief moment as a woman at the adoption agency in Haddonfield") and Sybil Danning ("[She is] a young Michael's last victim at Smith's Grove").
· McDowell and Taylor-Compton say they'd return for additional "Halloween" sequels, but Zombie insists he's done after one. ("Everything I've wanted to do I've done with this movie," he remarked.)
· Zombie won't replicate Carpenter's classic one-take opening scene. "Since I've already spent a half-hour developing the little kid," he reasoned, "to do any kind of mysterious POV would be ridiculous."
· Laurie has traded in her skirts and turtlenecks for Chuck Taylor sneakers and a skull-depicting hoodie. "She's conservative, but she has a little bit of an attitude now," said Taylor-Compton, whose character engages in a risqué conversation about bagel holes with her embarrassed mom.
One final change might just be the most controversial of them all: The dropping of the famous "Halloween" theme composed by Carpenter. "The plan was at some point to [remake it], to change it around," Zombie said, revealing that it has since been shelved. "The actual way it sounds now doesn't really work with what we're doing."
"We've reimagined the picture," producer Andy Gould added. "Perhaps a reimagining of the sound is in order too."
Rob Zombie Says MTV Got It Wrong -- 'Halloween' Theme Will Remain
Source: Cinematical
Since John Carpenter's theme music for Halloween is probably one of the most recognized theme songs in movie history, you can imagine the outcry when a MTV interview with director Rob Zombie reported that he was not using the original music in his "re-imagining" of Carpenter's film. In the interview, Zombie was quoted as saying, "The plan was at some point to [remake it], to change it around, the actual way it sounds now doesn't really work with what we're doing." But it looks like all that upset was in vain as Ain't it Cool News has since reported that Zombie has corrected the article on the MySpace page for the film.
Zombie posted "Now I get it, MTV misunderstood what I was saying about the music. Oh well, I am still shooting and haven't even begin to explore the music side of things yet. I always planned on using the original theme since the beginning." Zombie is still promising plenty of changes; including no cameos from original cast members or re-creations of some of Carpenter's famous shots. But he seems determined to keep the music in one form or another -- although I can't help but worry another "re-imagining" could include "Halloween: The Dragula Remix."
Quote from: Cimenatical
I can't help but worry another "re-imagining" could include "Halloween: The Dragula Remix."
hahah, oh man, that made me laugh.
Quote from: MacGuffin on March 07, 2007, 01:19:43 PM
"Michael Myers does not know how to drive in this movie," the long-haired, tattooed filmmaker told MTV over the weekend on the set of his highly anticipated remake of one of horror's most beloved slasher films. "[Myers in the station wagon] always bothered me. They would always play that off like someone must have given him lessons, but you know no one gave him lessons! He's in a maximum-security prison! So, no, he doesn't drive."
now i see his motivation
Exclusive: Malcolm McDowell, The New Dr. Loomis, Talks 'Halloween'
Actor is pleased to say he's never seen original films.
Source: MTV
PASADENA, California — In 1978, British thespian Donald Pleasence stepped off the grand stage to give horror fans an all-time classic movie character, while declaring that he had stared into "this blank, pale, emotionless face with the blackest eyes ... the devil's eyes!" These days, the equally treasured Malcolm McDowell — perhaps best known for portraying the pathological Alex in "A Clockwork Orange" — is slipping into Dr. Sam Loomis' trademark trench coat to gaze into the peepers of the new Michael Myers. We caught up with the "Heroes" star on the set of Rob Zombie's "Halloween" remake for his first-anywhere interview about the film, getting thoughts on a CNN-friendly reinvention of the character, an unusually chatty Michael, and the inevitable sequels you'll be hearing about soon.
MTV: Tell us about your character.
Malcolm McDowell: I am playing the character that was originated by Donald Pleasence in the original "Halloween" all those years ago, which I never saw.
MTV: You've never seen the classic John Carpenter movie, or the sequels?
McDowell: No, I've never seen any one of them — and in a way, I'm thrilled and glad that I didn't see them. When I knew I was going to do it, I could have seen them, but I figured, "Why be influenced by someone else?" Let's just start fresh. [Zombie's remake] is a completely new look at it (see "Rob Zombie Talks 'Halloween': 'A Bloodbath Doesn't Interest Me' " and " 'Halloween' Star Scout Taylor-Compton Calls Michael Myers 'Cute,' Talks Sequel").
MTV: So what's your take on our old crazy friend Dr. Loomis?
McDowell: Dr. Samuel Loomis is a psychiatrist whose lifelong work is Michael Myers. He obviously isn't a very good one is he? [He laughs.] Of course, he doesn't cure him, and he doesn't help him in any way. Dr. Loomis is retired [in this film] ... I want to make Loomis a man with a tremendous ego. I've met some of these doctors through the years, where there is more ego in it than there is [interest in what's] best for the patient, and if they can get a book out of it — which of course he has done — it's a bestseller, and that's so much better.
MTV: So your Loomis is the type of guy we'd see on CNN as an "expert" on serial killers.
McDowell: Exactly. There is that element, which I thought would be fun to exploit in this character. How good of a psychiatrist he is, God knows. But he is dealing with a psychopath, and there really is not much you can do when it's a psychopath — maybe shock treatment or something. He has already killed five members of his own family [when he comes to Loomis]. It's a scary movie, but it's going to be a classic horror film.
MTV: You're one of the few actors who works opposite both the grown-up Michael (played by actor/wrestler Tyler Mane) and young Daeg Faerch, who plays the killer as a child. What's that been like?
McDowell: There's a 17-year gap from the childhood scenes [with Myers] to what you saw here tonight. Tyler, who plays him, is 6 foot 8 or something, and quite formidable looking. [With young Michael,] you are going to see him doing that sort of stuff at home when he was a child. The sort of family that he comes from, and how disjointed the whole thing is, and what a sad life and childhood he had.
MTV: In the original, we always heard Loomis making reference to watching Michael stare through the wall while they were in the sanitarium. Will this movie show us those moments?
McDowell: Well, I haven't shot those yet, but there is a lot of improvised stuff, which is great. There is a sort of roughness to it ... [young Michael] is just blank in one scene we do, [and we've decided] he'll be completely blank and then my cell phone will go off, which is what happened at rehearsal. It was a friend of mine who said his girlfriend was giving him crap, and I said, "Well look, I'm in the middle of a session, actually. What? Oh really! Well, tell her to go to hell!" [He laughs.] Rob went, "Great, let's use that!" I am very impressed with his cinema sense.
MTV: We know that older Michael is mute, but does young Michael deliver lines?
McDowell: Oh yeah, absolutely ... Michael is this sweet little boy who suddenly just turns evil, and the more angelic he looks, the more horrific the crimes are. He suddenly goes berserk and takes his own family out.
MTV: Fans of the original movies remember the big, over-the-top speeches from Loomis about "I spent eight years trying to reach him, and then another seven trying to keep him locked up!" Will you similarly embrace that melodrama?
McDowell: I get a couple of those yeah, but I'm hoping not to chew too much of the scenery because I'm trying to keep it reasonably real. There is a buffoonish quality to him, which is ridiculous if you look from the outside at him, and that, I think, is quite interesting. For instance, I do a whole lecture about, "These are the eyes of a killer, these are the eyes — they will deceive you, they will destroy you, these are the eyes of a psychopath." We go through a whole thing, and then I come out of the lecture and say to a guy: "They felt like a row of Christmas puddings! And what about that girl in the front row, what the hell was she doing there, spreading her legs? How can you stand it?" It's exactly what lecturers talk about after the fact.
MTV: Pleasence, like yourself, was a well-respected veteran British actor. Did you ever meet him?
McDowell: I did know Donald. I met him in London at the Royal Court Theatre. He was a tremendous actor — he played those wonderful sinister parts. I particularly remember him in two performances: He was in two great plays, one was written by Robert Shaw called "The Man in the Glass Booth" and the other was a [Harold] Pinter play, "The Caretaker."
MTV: Donald Pleasence appeared in five "Halloween" films — how many sequels do you have in you?
McDowell: Well, let's take it one by one and see how we do. If it's a great big success, then I'm sure they will want to make another. And I'm sure I will want to play him again, because he is a great character.
TEASER: http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809784517/trailer
I hated "House of 1000 Corpses".
I liked "The Devil's Rejects".
I don't have much hope for this one.
That looks silly.
I wish you couldn't see his eyes. I liked it better that way.
ugh, this looks terrible.
and i loved house of 1000 corpses and devil's rejects.
i'm very upset about this and even more upset that i'm going to help make this a hit by seeing it in theaters...
-Evil little kid rocker haircut for young Michael: stupid
-The return of the horrible child actress from part 4 and 5, Danielle Harris: an abomination
-Rob Zombie at the directing helm: an awful, awful choice (and people thought the phrase, "Written and Directed by Sylvester Stallone" was laughable...think again.)
-The inclusion of Malcolm McDowell as Dr. Loomis: admittedly pretty awesome
-Re-inventing yet another horror classic: more of an insult than all of the others combined, by principle alone
-The fact that they fucked up the Myers character so badly that the majority of the young, stupid audience members will think they're watching another sequel to Texas Chainsaw Massacre: Priceless.
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EXCL: Rob Zombie Interview
Source: ShockTillYouDrop
Two recent test screenings of Halloween haven't killed Rob Zombie's momentum any. The writer-director of The Devil's Rejects is burning through post-production white hot to an August 31st release dragging a jumpsuit-wearin', knife-wielding masked companion named Michael Myers in tow. He's fine-tuning his beast, a reworking of John Carpenter's '78 classic, amidst a deafening roar of Internet opinions and speculation that only grew louder when, after a New York research preview, Zombie went back behind the camera for a week of additional shooting.
On Friday, July 27th he'll stand before the masses to talk about all things Halloween at the San Diego Comic-Con where Dimension Films will be holding their presentation from 2:30pm - 4pm in Ballroom 20.
Given it's our third or fourth time (we've both lost track) discussing the film this year, Zombie and I keep our most recent discussion loose, steering the conversation along subjects such as the recent test screenings, Halloween's marketing and the sustained challenges of crafting one of the year's most looked forward to horror films.
ShockTillYouDrop.com: How did the test screening out here go?
Rob Zombie: The test screening was through the roof. Still, even if the movie audiences love it, you feel weird after those screenings. I went out to see "Transformers" and after ["Halloween"] was over [the Dimension execs] all came up to me and had these looks on their faces and I was like, "Oh, Jesus. What happened?" and they said the scores were unbelievable.
Shock: Was that the same sentiment at the East Coast screening?
Zombie: That went great too. The West Coast version of the film we showed was far more finished than the East Coast version, so it scored much better. That's to be expected. This whole thing has been amazing just for me, because we've been doing ADR and sound now, and a scene will just jump, especially for a horror movie. Once you get the sound effects and music in there it's a whole different ballgame. When you test these things with rough sound and temp music, it's a real nightmare.
Shock: Is everything going according to your vision or are there elements that are surpassing your expectations?
Zombie: There are certain aspects of this that have surpassed anything I could've hoped for - the two biggest wild cards were always: Who would play young Michael? And, who would play Laurie [Strode]? Tyler as Michael Myers, too. I wanted him I and thought he'd be great. Those three people were the unknowns in a sense. He so delivered above and beyond that people are gonna be blown away. Everyone else I've worked with on this I knew would be great. Malcolm [McDowell], who I'd never worked with, but I knew his stuff, I was confident he'd carry the role. But casting a 10-year-old kid [Daeg Faerch], you hope he's charismatic enough to carry the first chunk of the movie. That's the one great thing from the previews, everybody loved classic Michael Myers but everybody loved early Michael. That's one of their favorite parts of the movie and I was like, thank God. But you never know, it's like watching young Darth Vader and saying, "C'mon, when's the real Dark Vader kicking in?"
Shock: Because the film is segmented in that it follows young Michael and then picks up as he gets older, have you considered lengthening the young Michael fraction of the film based on the audience's reception to that stuff?
Zombie: It's the same as it always was, what's great is it's basically falling in according to plan. Because I thought young Michael was really compelling, and young Michael with Loomis in Smith's Grove was really compelling, but I hadn't put it in front of an audience - and it scored great. People seemed to really be into it and paid attention. There was a nice build. I was afraid there'd be this anticipation like, "Quick, let's get to Michael and have him start killing!" People really locked on. They want to compare and contrast to John Carpenter's film but in the first five minutes you go, "Oh, this movie's so different." There's no sense thinking about the difference. The audiences weren't doing that. They were locked in and watched it for the movie it is.
Shock: You and I never spoke about the August release date. Do you share any concerns about the late summer release considering how "The Devil's Rejects" got burned two summers ago?
Zombie: August 31st is when the school bell is ringing and it's like the end of summer. So I don't feel so bad. But with "Hostel: Part II" [Lionsgate] practically gave that the death slot they gave "Rejects" - like, what are they doing? We know that because horror movies in general don't have the promotion budgets they give "Harry Potter" or "Pirates of the Caribbean" or "Spider-Man." There's also something about it being summertime, it's at the beach. Do they want to see a dark, scary movie? Probably not. They want to see "Knocked Up." I think August 31st is kind've like summer's end, it's fall, let's f**kin' bring it. Any earlier and I'd be worried.
Shock: After the first test screening you went back to do some re-shoots...
Zombie: I hate the word "re-shoots"...
Shock: Additional shooting, we should say...
Zombie: Yeah, the movie tested so well in New York that Weinstein was said, "I believe in this movie so much, if there's anything you felt you didn't get and you want to get it, I'll give you the money to go do it." Which is the greatest thing because there's always something more you want. The weird thing about movies I don't think people really understand is that it's like a puzzle put together out of sequence. And it's not until you're done that you go "Shit, if only we had done that," but we didn't because certain things come alive that are unexpected. It's not like you have a script that's your blueprint and you make it exactly what's there. Sometimes things change. Characters might become more important than they originally were, certain characters become less important. One of the things is the character Danny Trejo plays resonated so much stronger than I anticipated. There was one more scene with his character that I needed to resolve with him and it always felt like it was missing and that's one of the things we went back to get.
Shock: Did the picture become even more violent? There are rumors of more deaths.
Zombie: Not really, it was like we'd do some violent thing, but it'd turn into something else. A lot of it is character pieces to connect things. As soon as someone hears we're shooting more people are like "They went back to shoot seven more bloody deaths!" Who makes this stuff up? It was so crazy, some of the stuff we went to shoot was so minor. Like Clint Howard's character calling from Smith's Grove to give the news of Michael Myers escaping. I restructured the timeline of the film and had originally shot those scenes during the day and I needed to shoot them at night because it didn't make sense within the timeline. Nobody had said you need more violence, you need more gore. The movie's fuckin' violent enough.
Shock: You're still in post-production, so how is composer Tyler Bates doing with the score? When we last spoke you said he was playing with a few ideas.
Zombie: Bates is doing good, that's been really tricky. It's been really tricky for everybody because it's been a constant thing of how much of the original stuff do we maintain so that it's cool? And how much do we throw away? It's been a fine line of it's in, it's out. I mean, all of the classic themes are in there, it's just how much do you use - as much as they strike up a feeling as soon as you hear it, you want to be able to strike up new sensations in people and it's hard to do that with cues that people have heard for thirty years, so it's been a tough balancing act for him.
Shock: Regarding the poster, is that something you designed yourself? Because I understand you like to have a hand in some of the marketing.
Zombie: I blurted out, "What if we did something like this?" And then they did it. They did a ton of posters and I hated everything. [laughs] I saw that one and was like, you know, I kinda like it! It might not work great as a tiny image, but as a poster, there's a lot of stuff to look. A lot of times you go to the theater and the posters are so simple, you can look at it for one minute and get it. Now, I like how you can stand there for five minutes and look at the poster. I like that it looks serious - it's not taking all of the lead actors' faces, airbrushing them perfectly and putting them in a descending order of appearance. It looks like a serious movie and that's what I'm happy about.
Shock: Has producer Malek Akkad been pressing you about a sequel?
Zombie: Malek says it, but I'm like there's no f**kin' way. [laughs] I don't know, I know Scout [Taylor-Compton, aka Laurie Strode] hasn't signed on for a sequel. There's no way I would do it because I approached this movie singular film unto itself. I don't give a shit about reinvigorating a franchise, that's all well and good because you have to make money but I just wanted to make a great film and that's all Carpenter wanted to do. Not make a series. If they make "Halloween" 2, 3, 4, 9000, I'm not gonna be involved. Because this film has such a great start and a great ending, to go, "Let's start it up again!" Would be, to me, "Oh, Jesus Christ."
Shock: And what is happening with your animated project "El Superbeasto"?
Zombie: Nothing really much. They're still animating "Superbeasto." Once I started "Halloween" I told those guys I have to walk away because I can't split my time between two things. I mean, that started when I was on "Rejects" and it's now just sitting on a shelf waiting for me to finish "Halloween."
New Trailer here. (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809784517/video/3545602/)
You guys moved this to Now Showing QUICK. I was looking in grapevine like a dickhead.
Anyways, theres a workprint out of this already. Just has the time code. I'll sacrifice myself and get back to you!
Quote from: Stefen on August 27, 2007, 09:00:52 PMYou guys moved this to Now Showing QUICK.
I always move threads the Monday before their release date.
Quote from: bonanzataz on April 10, 2007, 09:39:16 AM
ugh, this looks terrible.
and i loved house of 1000 corpses and devil's rejects.
i'm very upset about this and even more upset that i'm going to help make this a hit by seeing it in theaters...
you can make it uo by making some pirate copies ...uh...with your cellphone cam
Spoilers
So, I've only watched the first half hour of this, but so far, it's not very good. Zombie made a huge mistake in trying to make Michael Myers as a child a sympathetic character instead of a faceless terror. This little fat kid keeps getting picked on by kids at school, then his sister won't take him trick or treating so he turns into a psycho. Theres a scene where he's sitting on the porch in his costume watching the other kids trick or treat and it starts playing that Nazareth song "Love hurts" and I about died laughing. I hope that was supposed to be a funny moment and not a serious moment.
Michael Myers was scary because he was anonymous. All you knew about him was the mask so when you throw a face on him, all of a sudden he isn't as scary, especially when it's the face of some loser fat kid with a Kiss t-shirt.
Hopefully it gets better when he becomes an adult.
I forgot to add that it really pisses me off how Rob Zombie continues to white trash his films up. Mike Myers mom is a white trash stripper, and his whole family looks and acts like they eat mayonaise sandwiches. Why glorify these people? They are the worst kind.
SPOILERSQuote from: Stefen on August 29, 2007, 12:49:47 PM
Hopefully it gets better when he becomes an adult.
It doesn't.
I was impressed with some things in "The Devil's Rejects", but when I heard Zombie was doing another Halloween, I was less than excited. But I tried to stay positive in hopes of him doing something fresh with this awful franchise. He doesn't do jack fucking shit.
So we get a little backstory to Michael, who cares? All of his victims in the beginning are stereotypes that Zombie seems to think are funny. But it's already a very tired cliche for him. The movie is just a relentless series of brutal killings, nothing more. It's predictable all the way down to the villain being shot down but isn't
really dead. No character development. No fresh story. Just lots and lots of jump scenes and violence, which Zombie doesn't even bother to comment on. Disturbing that this is his idea of entertainment.
I could keep going but why bother. It's the worst kind of movie. Best to erase it from my memory.
Pretty useless.
Though, there were a few things that I thought were visually exciting, and they were usually sexual in nature. (so, ah... sexually exciting, I guess.)
It somehow took itself too seriously and not seriously enough.
As laughable as I imagined the whole "Love Hurts" montage to be, and it was, I really liked the footage of Sheri-Moon Zombie stripping.... or, least, "dancing erotically", as there wasn't much stripping to be seen.
Also, the nipples on Michael's sister... I think Zombie cast her entirely due to her nipples. They were good nipples. Good, cinematic nipples.
There are some gloriously smutty moments in this and in The Devil's Rejects. Hopefully Zombie will eventually convince a studio to finance a Russ Meyer-esque sexploitation film That, I'd be excited for.
Better than his Gindhouse trailer, though.
I never finished it, and it seems I made the right choice.
Why are people slobber knobbing all over these hacks like Zombie, Eli Roth, and now Tarantino and Rodriguez?
I didn't think ANYTHING Zombie ever did was good, and I remember a time when no one bought House of 1000 corpses because it was so bad and he was showing clips of it at his shows. How he got clout for Devils Rejects is beyond me.
In Roth's case, Cabin Fever was alright, but nothing to write home about. It was just a good idea executed horribly. The Hostel films are the same way. A GREAT idea gone horribly wrong.
Tarantino and R-Rod fucked up bad with Grindhouse. How are you gonna spend $40 million on making something look like it cost less than a million? Is that not the shittiest idea ever? Let's spend alot of money to make something look like it didn't cost alot of money? It would have been awesome if they made those films with the same shitty cameras, props, effects, etc from the 70's instead of modernizing them by making them look outdated. As I've said before, Grindhouse is like the hot topic of Grindhouse flicks. $50 for a brand new Led Zeppelin tour t-shirt that is already pre faded and made to look like it's old and you got it at a thrift store. Who's idea was that?
well put
Zombie making 'Halloween' sequel
Dimension to release director's 'H2' in October
Source: Variety
Dimension Films and Rob Zombie are teaming for another chapter of "Halloween," and he's racing to scare up the pic for release in October.
Zombie will write and direct "H2," the sequel to his 2007 reinvention of the John Carpenter horror classic. Production will begin in March.
The new film picks up right as the first remake ended, following the aftermath of Michael Myers' murderous rampage through the eyes of the sister he hunted.
Zombie said it won't resemble the original second installment, as the "House of 1000 Corpses" helmer continues to take the franchise in different directions.
Zombie took Carpenter's original and stamped it with an original storyline that treated Myers as a clinical psychopath. The film grossed $60 million domestically in 2007.
Zombie had told Dimension chief and TWC co-chairman Bob Weinstein he wanted nothing to do with a sequel. But just like the franchise's villain, Zombie was compelled to come back.
"I was so burned out. (But) I took a long break, made a record and I got excited again," Zombie said. "Now, we'll be hauling ass, and that's the problem making a movie called 'Halloween': If you come out Nov. 1 or after, nobody cares. If it was called anything else, I'd be fine."
but the first one came out in august, remember? you asshole.