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Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on March 18, 2003, 06:31:10 PM
just wanted to share some really, really amazing information about the Matrix RELOADED.

sphinx's note: spoilers ahoy, kiddies
swipe to read

sssswwiippppe
mainly featured in the matrix reloaded, there will be a white, neverending hallway with blue doors on both sides.  all doors lead to different places in the matrix, so theoretically you could access anywhere in the matrix just by using this hallway.  it's used just before the giant neo/agent smith(s) where all the smiths come pouring out of the door.  the hallway is also used in the live action game footage for 'enter the matrix' where niobe is being chased by an agent, and runs through the hallway.  really cool stuff.

more information to come...
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 18, 2003, 08:30:31 PM
that idea sounds like a video gamers wet dream to me for some reason. I wish I could anticipate these movies more or find enjoyment within them, but serious Christ interpretations are way too off putting. This movie is trying to be too serious in its story and gets stomped to the ground by a movie like Dark City. Why can't it realize the ridiculousness of having a thousand plus number of bullets in it?

~rougerum
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 18, 2003, 08:32:38 PM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetWhy can't it realize the ridiculousness of having a thousand plus number of bullets in it?

Quote from: The Gold TrumpetMichael Bay. Actually, I'm on quite good terms with him as a director . . . The absurdity in his movies can be a lot of fun.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 18, 2003, 09:00:49 PM
If you would have properly quoted me, you would have quoted me saying that when Michael Bay does try for the serious, the results are disastrous. The Rock was fun and playful with its story and action scene. Michael Bay needs to stick to movies like The Rock or even Con Air. Matrix does try to take itself too serious and bombs because of it.

~rougerum
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Raikus on March 18, 2003, 09:07:20 PM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetMatrix does try to take itself too serious and bombs because of it.

I don't think "bombs" is the word you're looking for. Or if it is, the financial earnings and DVD sales certainly prove you wrong. As far as the content, it seems your view would be rather... unique.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 18, 2003, 09:14:38 PM
Yeah, but the Matrix does the cliche of all cliches in sci fi films that try to be serious, and thats when it gets down on its hands and knees and starts including scene after scene of a character explaining the rules of this given situation for this world and the given situation for this other part, but wait wait, then there are the rules for this situation of the sci fi world. At least in a movie like Minority Report, it explained the very pure basics and lets the rest just be a journey through great action and wonder. Stanley Kubrick, for 2001: A Space Odyssey, had all the rules for the zero gravity toilet made out in the most professional way but only used it as an unreadable item in a scene with little importance and could have been forged easily. If that was in the Matrix, one would have to wonder if a character would have actually gone into explanation of what to do and all. And if they did, how far?

~rougerum
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Ghostboy on March 18, 2003, 11:21:17 PM
On the subject of the Matrix, the new Animatrix movie is pretty awesome; a very nice short action piece, very much in keeping with the established Matrix world. It's surprisingly downbeat, and it also has a very sexy sword fight. And as I'm one of the few people who loved the Final Fantasy movie, I was very happy to see that style of CGI in use again (I'm sure I'll get hell for that, though).

It's a shame that you'll have to pay to see Dreamcatcher to see it on the big screen; I encourage sneaking in.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on March 19, 2003, 01:35:11 AM
Quote from: GhostboyOn the subject of the Matrix, the new Animatrix movie is pretty awesome; a very nice short action piece, very much in keeping with the established Matrix world. It's surprisingly downbeat, and it also has a very sexy sword fight. And as I'm one of the few people who loved the Final Fantasy movie, I was very happy to see that style of CGI in use again (I'm sure I'll get hell for that, though).

It's a shame that you'll have to pay to see Dreamcatcher to see it on the big screen; I encourage sneaking in.

how, m'aint i ask, did you see it?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Ghostboy on March 19, 2003, 01:37:45 AM
Dreamcatcher (coughdumbestmovieinalongtimecough) press screening.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on March 19, 2003, 01:49:29 AM
Quote from: GhostboyDreamcatcher (coughdumbestmovieinalongtimecough) press screening.

it currently has 0% at rottentomatoes and i don't expect that number to climb

conversely, i do expect the movie to make at least $50 million with the short attached
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on March 19, 2003, 01:53:26 AM
Quote from: GhostboyDreamcatcher (coughdumbestmovieinalongtimecough) press screening.

(coughthehuntedcough) So that means I'll like this.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Ghostboy on March 19, 2003, 02:17:23 AM
No...differences of opinion be damend, I don't think you'll like Dreamcatcher.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: ©brad on March 19, 2003, 07:24:35 AM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetYeah, but the Matrix does the cliche of all cliches in sci fi films that try to be serious, and thats when it gets down on its hands and knees and starts including scene after scene of a character explaining the rules of this given situation for this world and the given situation for this other part, but wait wait, then there are the rules for this situation of the sci fi world. At least in a movie like Minority Report, it explained the very pure basics and lets the rest just be a journey through great action and wonder.
~rougerum

i think the matrix is far more ambiguous that minority report. The one problem I had with MI is that it explains too much, especially during the final scene with john anderton and lamar.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: budgie on March 19, 2003, 08:31:47 AM
GT, why do you want to be able to explain it all, can't you just open up to its world and take it on trust? Try sitting really near to the screen and not blinking till its over. Let it beat you senseless.

Also, you compare The Matrix to 2001, but hell it's 2003! And don't you think 2001 takes itself ever so seriously ...The Dawn of Man and all (suppresses a giggle)... there's a kind of irrepressible joy in that don't you think, when it's done with a real blast and energy?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 19, 2003, 04:10:34 PM
I don't mind a sci fi movie taking itself too seriously, just the relationship of a silly sci fi movie trying to be serious doesn't come off that well. And yes, there is a difference between 2001 and the Matrix.

Minority Report, in explaining things, is acting under the rules of the genre thriller of explaing more character motives and just what we need to know to understanding the world. If Minority Report was to act like the Matrix, it would stop and explain each thing before showing it, like the crawling things that search the building and the super highway that goes down the sides of buildings. For that, Minority Report leaves it alone and just goes for the wonder of what is seen. Its fine if you think it overexplains itself at the end, a lot of people do, but compared to all that is in the rest of the movie, it actually felt like a small detail to me.

~rougerum
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: ©brad on March 20, 2003, 04:54:35 AM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetIf you would have properly quoted me, you would have quoted me saying that when Michael Bay does try for the serious, the results are disastrous. The Rock was fun and playful with its story and action scene. Michael Bay needs to stick to movies like The Rock or even Con Air. Matrix does try to take itself too serious and bombs because of it.

~rougerum

The Rock doesn't take itself seriously? please, if anything it takes itself too seriously.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on March 27, 2003, 05:55:12 PM
new matrix shit:

i was given the new solo reloaded trailer that'll be released in less than a week and took a few caps from it

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fambulance.planet1337.com%2Fthisimageisactuallyjustpartofthenewposter.jpg&hash=b8a6f2d15d3373f2743c478eab3e90835483fd72)

whatever you do don't download the image
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on March 27, 2003, 06:01:50 PM
New poster:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagecache2.allposters.com%2Fimages%2F151%2FReload2.jpg&hash=463776cc0ab2773e647e65532179d276f9ee2ec7)

:yabbse-thumbdown:
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on March 27, 2003, 06:07:18 PM
:yabbse-angry::yabbse-angry::yabbse-angry:/:yabbse-angry:
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on March 27, 2003, 06:48:40 PM
guffy:
that ain't the new poster, it's one that the allposters people made up!  it was made by a 3rd party design company that does stuff like that all the time (they did it for lord of the rings, too)

the final one sheet hasn't actually come out yet
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on March 29, 2003, 01:09:32 PM
Quotemainly featured in the matrix reloaded, there will be a white, neverending hallway with blue doors on both sides. all doors lead to different places in the matrix, so theoretically you could access anywhere in the matrix just by using this hallway. it's used just before the giant neo/agent smith(s) where all the smiths come pouring out of the door.

got pictures of the hallway from the new trailer
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fambulance.planet1337.com%2Fhallway.jpg&hash=914c9c4349959d2b54f956139b75c56e5efbd59a)

smiiiiith
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fambulance.planet1337.com%2Fhallway2.jpg&hash=ac93bf6ea4335e1633568736fa90e4f188c6a10f)

kubrick
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fambulance.planet1337.com%2Fhallway3.jpg&hash=db28cb759305eb6dc168f99cbf4bf923fe60f972)

the keymaster
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fambulance.planet1337.com%2Fhallway5.jpg&hash=c4e5b0c1746debe26dde4369c18ffdb312e79172)

the key that must be delivered to neo
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fambulance.planet1337.com%2Fhallway4.jpg&hash=5d214d567a57e24cb8cd02639ed4efd57a54ec18)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on March 29, 2003, 02:35:24 PM
Quote from: sphinx
from the new trailer

...game trailer? (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/trailer1-2_320.html)? (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/trailer1-2_480.html)? (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/trailer1-2_640.html)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Pubrick on March 29, 2003, 11:03:16 PM
Quote from: picolas? (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/trailer1-2_320.html)? (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/trailer1-2_480.html)? (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_cmp/trailer1-2_640.html)
Chuck would be proud.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: budgie on March 31, 2003, 03:46:40 AM
That hallway ends.  :(
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on March 31, 2003, 09:04:57 AM
no it doesn't.  the first picture shows the entrance to the hallway, and if you were to turn around you would see that it goes on forever.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: budgie on March 31, 2003, 11:24:30 AM
Quote from: sphinx[(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fambulance.planet1337.com%2Fhallway3.jpg&hash=db28cb759305eb6dc168f99cbf4bf923fe60f972)


Ooh, yeah. Sorry. Can you ask that woman to move so we can get a better look?

Though theoretically it does end if it has a beginning, depending.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on April 03, 2003, 07:49:44 PM
apparently there's a trailer to be attached to a certain film on april 11th, but the public will be seeing the trailer well before this, so expect a new reloaded preview any time now
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: budgie on April 05, 2003, 06:08:27 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin

technically, every one of those doors is the end of the hallway, since they lead to somewhere else.

Not really, though, because if you make a movement across the passage, there is still a space to your left and right that isn't blocked, so the side doors aren't ends but the one at right angles to them is. But now I'm into the idea of this space...are there rooms or more passages off the side? I need information.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: RegularKarate on April 05, 2003, 12:23:39 PM
Have any of you watched any of the animatrix shorts?

The stories are pretty cheezy, but some of the animation is nice to watch... especially, the most recent, A Detective Story.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on April 06, 2003, 12:57:39 AM
Quote from: RegularKarateHave any of you watched any of the animatrix shorts?

The stories are pretty cheezy, but some of the animation is nice to watch... especially, the most recent, A Detective Story.

yep. they're good fun. i had higher hopes for A Detective Story, though...coming from the same guy who wrote Macross Plus...eh...World Record and Kid's Story still seem kinda promising.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on April 07, 2003, 11:24:57 PM
New tv trailer:
http://216.40.230.10/~movie-list.net/strube/Reloaded30secTeaser.mpeg

New Posters:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdarkhorizons.com%2Fnews03%2Fp-mati2.jpg&hash=9c517ee4dd5e63b54c189591f62c64b9252a67b4)
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdarkhorizons.com%2Fnews03%2Fp-mati1.jpg&hash=2844abe08405a9cba424cc0fb400bcb0fc96c5a0)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Satcho9 on April 08, 2003, 01:05:50 AM
looks fucking cool...again....jesus...how many pairs of pants am I going to have to shit in?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Raikus on April 08, 2003, 09:09:02 AM
Quote from: picolasyep. they're good fun. i had higher hopes for A Detective Story, though...coming from the same guy who wrote Macross Plus...eh...World Record and Kid's Story still seem kinda promising.

He also is responsible for Cowboy Bebop. People need to check out that series. Great animation and storyline. As far as Detective Story, it was still good, but all of his other work outshined this venture by a lot.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: BonBon85 on April 08, 2003, 02:13:16 PM
Quote from: RaikusHe also is responsible for Cowboy Bebop. People need to check out that series. Great animation and storyline.

Cowboy Bebop's pretty cool. The best part is the music. Just watch the opening title sequence and you'll be hooked on the series.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on April 10, 2003, 09:12:29 AM
i think the internet will break when the new matrix trailer arrives tomorrow
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on April 10, 2003, 06:55:25 PM
Quote from: sphinxi think the internet will break when the new matrix trailer arrives tomorrow

looks like it...the windows i was using to play the FECKIN' AMAZING NEW TRAILER have all but frozen.

http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/


:!:   :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :shock:  :-D / :!:
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Satcho9 on April 10, 2003, 07:32:28 PM
You know what else broke?...The control of my bowel movements....What a good fucking trailer.

also check out this very in depth article on John Gaeta and the FX of Reloded...
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.05/matrix2_pr.html
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: RegularKarate on April 10, 2003, 09:20:16 PM
Looks fucking great... a tad cartoon effects in parts, but still looks like a worthy sequel.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Ghostboy on April 10, 2003, 10:50:40 PM
I love it when you see something so cool it just makes you smile and laugh in disbelief. That trailer did it, for sure. Special effects are so great when used well.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: budgie on April 11, 2003, 06:35:41 AM
It gives meaning to life again. Keanu should never make any other movies. Love everything except the look of the underground cavern and that final shot of the outside, both of which shout Clones/LOTR. ie The Matrix looks a lot more exciting and realler than reality... oh wait...

Why is reality always shit-colored?

Nice av, RK.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: BonBon85 on April 11, 2003, 02:34:51 PM
nice av, budgie.

Sheesh, so much stuff to buy in June, PDL, Radiohead, and Chuck's new nonfiction!
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: budgie on April 12, 2003, 06:12:45 AM
Quote from: BonBon85nice av, budgie.

Sheesh, so much stuff to buy in June... Chuck's new nonfiction!

Yeah, can't wait. Thought it was July, though. Oh, wait, d'you mean his book on Portland or the non-fiction that was up on Chuck.net? Hadn't caught when that was out... if it's June then it's gonna be a great summer with two collections. Love Chuck, love him to bits, and he's getting better and better.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Sleuth on April 12, 2003, 10:09:06 AM
Hi, I like Chuck and have read everything up to Lullaby but I don't feel like searching through the official site, so could anybody please catch me up on things he's done or plans to do after Lullaby
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: budgie on April 13, 2003, 07:20:05 AM
Quote from: tremoloslothHi, I like Chuck and have read everything up to Lullaby but I don't feel like searching through the official site, so could anybody please catch me up on things he's done or plans to do after Lullaby

http://www.chuckpalahniuk.net/revival.php

Plus Fugitives and Refugees, his travel guide to Portland in July.
Seems the Non-Fiction (Stranger Than Fiction) is in progress. If you really like his writing, it's worth visiting the Non-Fiction section on the site while it's still there because apparently Chuck will have it taken down as he develops the book.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on April 26, 2003, 01:16:45 AM
old news, but:

ooh
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frl_img%2Fposter_intnl_morpheus_med.jpg&hash=f222d55b8ab447d95dc15f64cdef1234bdf72ab4) (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_img/poster_intnl_morpheus.jpg)

aah
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frl_img%2Fposter_intnl_smith_med.jpg&hash=08dcfa7b3e0dba9048808587e6c5ea0c43113c69) (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_img/poster_intnl_smith.jpg)

mmeh
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frl_img%2Fposter_intnl_neo_trinity_tm.jpg&hash=5cd4d60e1e950e37e1a6a626b905185c62a642e6) (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rl_img/poster_intnl_neo_trinity_t.jpg)

click for largeables
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 26, 2003, 10:16:56 AM
You can see the entire movie in their sunglasses.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on April 26, 2003, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanYou can see the entire movie in their sunglasses.

:yabbse-thumbup:

what that actually made me sort of wonder is what is that white box agent smith(s) are looking at?  obviously it's important enough that the smiths in behind (even though they couldn't see it) still have that reflection on their glasses....mysterious, eh?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on May 08, 2003, 06:08:59 PM
Although I have no desire to watch them out of context, here are two clips from the film:

Clip 1: Trinity Makes Entrance (http://www.eonline.com/shared/Eonline/Features/Features/Heatwave2003/matrix2_trinity_enters.asx)

Clip 2:Neo Meets Oricle Bodyguard (http://www.eonline.com/shared/Eonline/Features/Features/Heatwave2003/matrix2_neo_bodyguard.asx)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on May 08, 2003, 07:02:49 PM
they seem to be not working.  upon further inspection, i believe there are corrupt frames 0.817 seconds into each video file.  the media player refuses to skip these frames and thus the video will never play

sphinx is sad
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on May 08, 2003, 07:10:57 PM
Try these:

Clip 1 (http://www.eonline.com/shared/Eonline/Features/Features/Heatwave2003/matrix2_trinity_enters.ram)
Clip 2 (http://www.eonline.com/shared/Eonline/Features/Features/Heatwave2003/matrix2_neo_bodyguard.ram)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on May 08, 2003, 07:16:22 PM
both clips spoil minor fight scenes, but other than that, they're okay.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: RegularKarate on May 08, 2003, 08:49:24 PM
I doubt the second one is ruining anything... it's an ad for Heineken
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on May 10, 2003, 05:07:39 PM
sphinx has assembled a comprehensive list of trailers attached to the matrix reloaded:

attached to certain prints:
- Kill Bill
- The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
- The Last Samurai
- Legally Blonde 2
- Finding Nemo
- The Italian Job
- Bad Boys 2
- 2 Fast 2 Furious
- Freddy vs Jason

attached to all prints:
- Terminator 3
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on May 10, 2003, 08:10:54 PM
sphinx why do you talk in third person?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Pubrick on May 10, 2003, 10:13:40 PM
Quote from: BankyEdwardssphinx why do you talk in third person?
"what has four legs in the morning, two legs at midday, and three legs in the evening?"

the man is clearly conflicted.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 11, 2003, 02:14:10 AM
Quote from: BankyEdwardssphinx why do you talk in third person?

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fehpnet1.niehs.nih.gov%2Fdocs%2F1995%2F103-7-8%2Fforum-elmo.GIF&hash=2b6ca428334c467d2fba2291cf5365f7cf09cc69)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on May 11, 2003, 02:22:07 PM
bad (http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=678) reviews of the matrix reloaded are starting to crop (http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=677) up, and sphinx fears (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hollywoodreporter/reviews/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1883093) that instead of being the star wars (http://www.starwars.com) of his generation it will simply be the star wars prequels (http://www.starwars.com) of his generation
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: RegularKarate on May 11, 2003, 05:14:24 PM
If anyone cares to see this movie (I've got my tickets) don't read the reviews Sphinx linked above... at least not the first one.

It took me a paragraph to realized that half the movie had already been spoiled for me... I quit reading, but it gives WAY too much info and now it's too late for me.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Sleuth on May 11, 2003, 08:59:08 PM
Thanks for the heads up
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Pedro on May 11, 2003, 09:02:01 PM
I hope it's good i really do...
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on May 11, 2003, 10:01:21 PM
sorry rk.  that makes me feel really guilty
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MrBurgerKing on May 11, 2003, 10:11:07 PM
Nah, don't feel bad about it.. You can at least wake up everyday and immediately smile at the fact that you're not Jon Mulvaney.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on May 11, 2003, 10:18:47 PM
Stay away from this:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.timeinc.net%2Ftime%2Fimages%2Fcovers%2F1101030512cov_white.gif&hash=87a74b7e6be3c1a055ad86fb9baa4598626e3b89)

Haven't read it, but heard that it gives everything away.

I'm staying in a Matrix-free prison until I see it.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on May 11, 2003, 10:19:19 PM
sphinx read it in a barbershop accidentally.  it pretty much gives away everything except the ending of the movie.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on May 11, 2003, 10:56:59 PM
I read the article in Time. You can get a lot of info of the story behind the Matrix without getting blindsided by any spoilers. Actually, the spoiler portion of the article is clearly labeled and I just skipped over it. Good read though. I'm not sure what to think of the bad reviews coming from the Matrix. On one hand, they could be right but on the other hand, they could have made the mistake of taking the first one serious. I couldn't take it serious. It was pure action that was bullshitting on any potential of drama.

~rougerum
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 11, 2003, 11:47:57 PM
Remember when someone leaked a spoiler that Barry dies at the end of PDL, and we all believed it? Those were the days.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Dirk on May 12, 2003, 08:40:44 AM
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanRemember when someone leaked a spoiler that Barry dies at the end of PDL, and we all believed it? Those were the days.

That was Officer Jim Kurring. I miss him  :yabbse-cry:
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on May 12, 2003, 07:36:11 PM
Just a reminder for all going to see it:

Stay after the end credits to see the trailer for "Matrix Revolutions"
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Sal on May 13, 2003, 12:14:17 AM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetOn one hand, they could be right but on the other hand, they could have made the mistake of taking the first one serious. I couldn't take it serious. It was pure action that was bullshitting on any potential of drama.

~rougerum


I agree.  It seemed more spectacle than anything else, and when I heard people raving about the plot and the characters in retrospect, it was a bit incredulous.  I still don't find that the first film attains anything much higher than great action and pacing, despite its philosophical quandaries.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on May 13, 2003, 12:18:57 AM
Quote from: MacGuffinStay after the end credits to see the trailer for "Matrix Revolutions"

it's already online and it kicks ass.  to me, it looks better than any of the reloaded stuff combined.  i'm really looking forward to it.  it's also much more green
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on May 13, 2003, 12:21:39 AM
stupid sphinx forgot the link

http://hem.passagen.se/fazaa/rev.zip

no sound

caps i made:
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Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on May 13, 2003, 01:26:09 AM
Quote from: sphinx
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= :yabbse-cheesy: x :shock: .

what player are you using, there?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Victor on May 13, 2003, 12:30:14 PM
have you guys heard about marcus chong?

http://www.boycottthematrix.com/index.htm
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: godardian on May 14, 2003, 07:08:28 PM
http://theonion.com/onion3918/infograph_3918.html
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on May 31, 2003, 03:04:06 PM
major spoilers for the rest of the trilogy[/color][/size]

it's a few months until the next matrix trailer, but here's some peculiar information to hold your interest

the matrix online is a massive multiplayer rpg being released next year that is set in the matrix, and in the FAQ section a question is asked

'When does the game take place?'
The Matrix Online timeline takes place after The Matrix Revolutions, the third Matrix movie, currently scheduled to be released in November 2003.

does this mean that the matrix will still exist after the third movie?  oooooh

spoilers have ended[/color][/size]
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: nappyrat on June 05, 2003, 10:56:12 PM
look, i dunno why all you dorks think so much about all the things in the matrix.!!

cmon, its a movie, and for dumb people like you, they NEED to explain the rules and regulations in the matrix..
dont hate on the wakowski bros.
it turned out pretty great...i mean, 10000000000 fans cant be wrong...?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Raikus on June 06, 2003, 09:34:35 AM
Ah, the Wachowskis.

The whole "Brothers" thing is dead.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/zwecker/cst-ftr-zp03.html
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on June 06, 2003, 10:54:54 AM
major spoilers for the rest of the trilogy[/color][/size]

The Matrix Revolutions Update
Source: The Z Review

Joel Silver says:
"Reloaded and Revolutions could be one film. But I htink they work best as two sittings. It's quite a lot to absorb. Revolutions is all-out war between the humans and the machines and will, by all accounts, blow your f*****g minds. We have a 14 minute, $40 million battle sequence that is the most complicated sequence ever put on film.

John Gaeta, stunt director:
"Reloaded, no problem; even though it was incredibly difficult, there was a lot of buffer time built in. Revolutions, on the other hand is aggressive because it's quite grand. Revolutions is much more epic. More creature based and much more about machines and bio-mechanical places. It's an awesome catagory to work in as a lot of us are big fans of Alien. It's a completely different train to anything we've done before.

Dan Cracchiolo, Production executive:
"You know Revolutions is the real thing, right? Revolutions is the pay off. Reloaded is just a tease...."

And the man himself, Neo - Keanu Reeves:
"The first is about birth. The second about life. The third about death. I don't know though. Maybe it should be called The Matrix Resurrection."

spoilers have ended[/color][/size]
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: ©brad on June 06, 2003, 02:27:58 PM
very very very very nice.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on June 07, 2003, 04:24:41 PM
virtualMatrix: What is the significance of Neo eating the Oracle's cookie?

WachowskiBros: There was a piece cut out of the movie that explained the significance more. It's hard to explain.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Gold Trumpet on June 07, 2003, 08:00:48 PM
I remember them doing this sort of talk with Reloaded in contrast to the original and the the effects and exhibition of them was more impressive in the first actually. I really don't trust them anymore. Sure, Reloaded pushed the graphics up, but the effect was better in the first. Too much CGI ness was poking its head out in the second one and over extended scenes of the fighting. So, really, I wasn't even impressed by the effects of the second one even. First one was very impressive.

~rougerum
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on June 07, 2003, 08:05:19 PM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetToo much CGI ness was poking its head out in the second one and over extended scenes of the fighting. So, really, I wasn't even impressed by the effects of the second one even. First one was very impressive.

That's exactly how I felt about "Lord Of The Rings."
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: NEON MERCURY on June 07, 2003, 10:22:54 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetToo much CGI ness was poking its head out in the second one and over extended scenes of the fighting. So, really, I wasn't even impressed by the effects of the second one even. First one was very impressive.

That's exactly how I felt about "Lord Of The Rings."

:? ....odd    Mac I am not trying to get on your bad side in  fact i think like most on this board  you have good tastes/points/insights/etc.      ...but  i found reloaded's CGI ness some what cheesy also.   LOTR-FOTR and TTT were perfect IMO ...what do you mean?  sorry if i sound redundant/ignorant i am just curious as to what  you mean.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on June 07, 2003, 11:06:50 PM
Put it this way, I believed there were 100 Agent Smiths more than I believed trees could walk and talk and fight. In my review of "Reloaded", I admitted that some shots in that sequence looked fake and took me out of the movie a bit, but the CGI in the car chase sequence was outstanding (yes, even the trucks crashing and the rescue) and the effects of the Twins were flawless. As stated in GT's quote, the extended fights scenes and too much CGI ness of "Two Towers" screamed FAKE to me - especially the long pull out shot from the tower, past all the troops with their spears and flags waving. One that really stuck out was Merry and Pippin sticking out from the tops of the trees and the background looked incredible off; you could see it was done with blue screen. I accepted the CGI in "Fellowship" (right from the opening prologue) and thought they were used better and more believable there. I found the effects 'video gamey' in "Two Towers," not in "Reloaded".
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Raikus on June 08, 2003, 11:27:12 PM
I get what you're saying Mac, but I saw it as the opposite. Even if LoTR and Matrix had equally crappy effects, LoTR could get away with it easier because the movie is based in a fantasy world with characters that have never visually been identified. It's easier to buy into the thought of seeing a living, walking tree for the first time instead of seeing hundreds of fake looking people. And like I said in a different thread, I think what makes the effects in Matrix so off isn't the character's actions and faces, but the physics of their clothing. We've all seen a person and the way physics affect the things around us, that's why you can point out flaws in the Matrix so easily. But with LoTR you've got nothing to base opinion on. So it basically boils down to whether or not you're willing to buy into the fantasy world. The effects in LoTR were excellent. I think it is more the inability to accept the visual representation of fantasy characters than anything else that makes someone say it had bad scale or effects.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on June 09, 2003, 12:02:00 AM
you guys can keep talking, but i don't want my matrix news thread to turn into an opinion thread because sphinx likes his news and thoughts separate

i'm trying not to be an ass  :yabbse-sad:  (http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=1597&start=240)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on June 10, 2003, 01:34:35 PM
Quote from: RaikusThey have a good write up about the Matrix (which specifically deals with the question I raised) in this month's Creative Screenwriting (Hugh Jackman cover). It also tells of the evolution the Matrix script took. Very interesting stuff. Look it up if you're interested in Matrix lore.

MATRIX secrets spilled? Possible SPOILERS inside!
Could the first draft of THE MATRIX contain hints for the next two movies?


The May/June issue of Creative Screenwriting contains a fascinating article for fans of THE MATRIX films. In Jeff Goldsmith's six-page examination, the writer looks back at the first and second drafts of THE MATRIX as written by the Wachowski brothers and before the story had coagulated into the shooting draft. The Wachowskis' earlier scripts contain a number of story elements that were junked from the final product audiences saw in theaters, including Neo leaving a girlfriend and little brother behind in the Matrix, an explanation about the origins of the Matrix from a sentient computer program named Eve and different action sequences. One of the more interesting ideas revealed to have been included in these MATRIX early drafts is the idea that the Matrix runs from the years 1980 to 2009, then "reloads" back to 1980 and begins the cycle once again. That should sound familiar to RELOADED fans.

So could there be more ingredients from the discarded drafts we'll see return in THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS? George Lucas did the same thing when he put together the story for THE PHANTOM MENACE, recycling ideas and names discarded from earlier drafts of STAR WARS. There is one intriguing idea mentioned in the Creative Screenwriting piece that could be used somewhere in REVOLUTIONS, namely Morpheus' revelation that the so-called real world may in fact be just another Matrix. It would certainly explain some of the unusual events we saw take place in RELOADED, such as Agent Smith's escape to the real world and Neo's new abilities.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on June 10, 2003, 08:04:14 PM
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Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: edison on June 10, 2003, 08:08:48 PM
have to say i like it
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: ©brad on June 11, 2003, 12:19:02 AM
BADASS.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Sleuth on June 11, 2003, 09:21:59 AM
See, this is what I mean.  You guys know what's going to happen in Revolutions

All I wanted to know in the other thread was if it would make a Matrix fan happy (I don't read this thread for fear of spoilers)  and it looks like it will be "badass"
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Pubrick on June 11, 2003, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: tremoloslothSee, this is what I mean.  You guys know what's going to happen in Revolutions

All I wanted to know in the other thread was if it would make a Matrix fan happy (I don't read this thread for fear of spoilers)  and it looks like it will be "badass"
it's all speculation bro.

all the "spoilers" hav been vague and mostly inconsistent.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: edison on June 11, 2003, 12:08:50 PM
well, i dont know whats gonna happen in Revolutions, was there a thread that sorta had some spoilers concerning it?....must have missed it
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Pwaybloe on June 11, 2003, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: EEz28well, i dont know whats gonna happen in Revolutions, was there a thread that sorta had some spoilers concerning it?....must have missed it

No, you're fine.  I think when they said "POSSIBLE SPOILERS," it was based on wishy washy facts.  I don't think there is any credibility to these rumors.  Makes this place look like AICN.

Wait until November.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: polkablues on June 11, 2003, 09:57:16 PM
I don't want to spoil anything for anyone, but I've received confirmation from my sources that the third Matrix movie will be about... wait for it... the characters battling an invasion of Zion by machines!  Who saw that coming?


Oh, and the boat sinks.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on June 11, 2003, 10:51:11 PM
Reloaded seemed different...like the directors used almost a different style.  I realize there was more CGI (a lot more), but the feel wasn't much like the first, which is still cooler in my opinion.

But when Neo kicked all the agent's asses with the pole, that was hands down the coolest thing I've seen since the cat was shot in Boondock Saints.  I did also enjoy the plot development in Reloaded.

Sorry I have little info on the spoilers, just my own personal two cents.

Oh, and I hope to God there won't be a giant rave again.  That was...ugh...
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on June 11, 2003, 11:40:38 PM
i really like Reloaded, but somone needs to start a petition to the Wachowskis  to take out the dumb fuckin bowling noises during the burly brawl.  I am usually real defensive of reloaded when people talk to me about it but seriously that slapsticky sound affect shit sucked ass and took viewers out of the film.  Anyone else notice this god awful affect?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on June 14, 2003, 03:02:02 PM
did anybody ever notice how the overall tint of the dvd art and poster for the original poster for the first movie had a blue tint to it, even though that picture was 'taken' within the matrix?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sphinx on June 14, 2003, 10:56:30 PM
it was fun to read over this thread after seeing the movie and looking at our bizarre predictions.  anyone have any thoughts on what's going to happen in the third one so we can laugh at you in five months?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Sleuth on June 14, 2003, 11:07:38 PM
Morpheus goes CRRRAAAAAZY!  that's the best I got
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: modage on June 14, 2003, 11:08:45 PM
monica belluci gets naked and starts biting keanu.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on June 14, 2003, 11:20:26 PM
Agent Smith turns out to be Neo's FATHER!!!!!!!!!
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Newtron on June 15, 2003, 08:21:54 AM
Neo does Morpheus.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on July 17, 2003, 11:03:54 AM
Nona Gaye Talks The Matrix Revolutions
Source: Sci Fi Wire

Sci Fi Wire reports that actress Nona Gaye, who reprises the role of Zee in The Matrix Revolutions, says the third and final film will answer all of the questions. "People will be relieved when they see Revolutions," Gaye said. "I know a lot of people are like, 'What's going on?'"

Gaye added that the film will still be philosophically complex and that viewers will still have to work to understand the film's answers. "I think it depends on your perception," she said. "When I read the script, it made sense to me."

You will also see more of Zee in "Revolutions". "Number three is where I get down," she tells the site. "I'm doing a lot of diving and running and jumping and stuff."
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: markums2k on July 17, 2003, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: the ghost of sphinxit was fun to read over this thread after seeing the movie and looking at our bizarre predictions.  anyone have any thoughts on what's going to happen in the third one so we can laugh at you in five months?

:-D  That made me laugh.

Quote from: MacGuffinGaye added that the film will still be philosophically complex and that viewers will still have to work to understand the film's answers. "I think it depends on your perception," she said. "When I read the script, it made sense to me."

Surrrrrre it did.  Is anybody really going to say, "You know, we did this thing, and it still doesn't really come together very well.  A lot of people will be disappointed.  I know I was, when I read the script.  I said, are you guys sure about this?"

I'm prepared for a mixed bag, but hoping for the best.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on August 14, 2003, 12:08:37 PM
Exclusive UK Matrix Revolutions Teaser Trailer!

There's been rumors that there is a teaser trailer for The Matrix Revolutions playing in UK theaters, and now here's a first look! The third and concluding chapter in the blockbuster trilogy hits theaters and IMAX on November 5.

Check out the trailer here. (http://www.angelfire.lycos.com/magic/mushrooms43/ukrevolutions.rar)

Requires WinRar:
http://download.com.com/3000-2250-10007677.html

Shows a few more clips than the Enter The Matrix and end of Reloaded trailers did.  :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on August 15, 2003, 10:37:55 AM
Matrix Revolutions Theatrical Trailer Coming When?
Source: Coming Attractions at Cinescape

Coming Attractions at Cinescape is hearing that Warner Bros. is releasing the new trailer for The Matrix Revolutions in theaters on September 12, most likely with Ridley Scott's Matchstick Men. The trailer isn't expected to be all new though, but more of a re-editing of previous seen material with a couple of new shots as well.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on August 15, 2003, 10:00:43 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinThe trailer isn't expected to be all new though, but more of a re-editing of previous seen material with a couple of new shots as well.
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my favourite so far has been the theatrical trailer..i don't get why they keep changing the "we missed you" take..
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on August 15, 2003, 10:31:12 PM
Quote from: picolasmy favourite so far has been the theatrical trailer..

I like the UK one best. I liked The Oracle narration and that you saw a quick glimpse of Persephone in the theatrical trailer, but I liked the weird look and laugh of Agent Smith in the Enter The Matrix one. The UK has it all.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on August 15, 2003, 10:40:23 PM
the laugh is gold. maybe my favourite evil laugh of all time.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Sleuth on August 15, 2003, 10:41:32 PM
I can't get it to work.  I have winRar, but it won't let me extract it
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on August 15, 2003, 10:56:21 PM
It says, "you will need mpeg2 codecs".

I had trouble too, and I don't remember how I finally got it to work, but now I just use PowerDVD. WinDVD also works.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on August 18, 2003, 02:38:32 AM
Silver, Reeves & Pinkett Smith Talk Matrix Revolutions!
Source: The Herald Sun, Entertainment Weekly

The Herald Sun talked to producer Joel Silver about the highly-anticipated The Matrix Revolutions who says it's "an all-out war between the humans and the machines, and will blow minds".

*Possible Spoilers*

One of the key scenes, Silver says, is "a 14-minute, $40 million battle scene that is the most complicated sequence ever put on film." The latest Entertainment Weekly has more on this sequence. The magazine says it's a 14-minute, low-altitude helicopter chase. Whether or not that is accurate, we do not know for sure yet.

What we do know is that "there's a battle between Zion and the machines," Keanu Reeves tells the mag. "And the relationship between Agent Smith and Neo is resolved." Also, "some questions of the journey of Neo as The One are answered. And lost of surprises."

Jada Pinkett Smith returns as Niobe in the third film. "I'm more involved in the story," she says, "I help save the day, and you see my love story with Laurence resolved." She adds, "I don't think anybody gets married."

More Spoilers from The Matrix Revolutions?
Source: The Herald Sun

Even more possible spoilers from The Herald Sun.

The trade claims that the climax of "Revolutions" will be a 17-minute battle which takes place on the scorched earth of the nuclear-ravaged real world, littered with crumbling cathedrals and leading Neo to his true destiny. The segment cost about two-thirds of the $100 million budget of the first film alone.

And can we expect a fourth film? Producer Joel Silver says this is the end. "The story the Wachowskis wanted to tell ends at the end of Revolutions."
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on August 18, 2003, 03:21:04 PM
man i really want to see this movie.  It is gonna kick ass.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Sleuth on August 18, 2003, 03:23:06 PM
Yesssssss, Banky. Ass.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on August 18, 2003, 03:31:54 PM
what the hell does that mean?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Pubrick on August 18, 2003, 03:49:40 PM
Hot.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on August 18, 2003, 05:07:18 PM
ive had this avatar for a while and your just now noticing it ?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on August 19, 2003, 08:38:07 PM
The UK trailer is now available in Quicktime:

Hi-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/revolutions_640_dl.mov)

Med-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/revolutions_480_dl.mov)

Lo-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/revolutions_320_dl.mov)
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From Entertainment Weekly:

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The Matrix Revolutions

''Neo and Trinity get married.'' Keanu Reeves is joking. Come to think of it, maybe he's not. Following ''Matrix'' publicity protocol, the star really isn't yapping much about ''The Matrix Revolutions,'' the third and final (we think) installment in the sci-fi series. Still, he has a few general tips. ''There's a battle between Zion and the machines,'' he says. ''And the relationship between Agent Smith and Neo is resolved. And some questions of the journey of Neo as The One are answered. And lots of surprises.'' One of which, we're guessing, is a much-talked-about 14-minute, low-altitude helicopter chase. Most of our favorite characters are also back, including cyber-sexpot Monica Bellucci as Persephone and Jada Pinkett Smith, whose Niobe continues to lead the rebellion against those oppressive scraps of metal. ''I'm more involved in the story,'' says Pinkett Smith. ''I help save the day, and you see my love story with Laurence resolved.'' Still, she adds, ''I don't think anybody gets married.''

But let's go back and talk about ''Reloaded'' for a minute. The movie will gross $280 million domestically, but critics generally weren't pleased, and, as things played out, summertime audiences cared more about a talking fish than ass-kicking computer viruses. ''The second movie is always the toughest one in a trilogy,'' says series executive producer Bruce Berman, who is confident that viewers will flock to the third installment. They'd better. Warner Bros. and Berman's Village Roadshow took a risk when they shot both ''Matrix'' sequels simultaneously over 18 months in California and Australia -- a great plan if interest builds in the series (see ''The Lord of the Rings''), but potentially deadly if people decide they've just had enough (''Back to the Future'').

Also complicating things is the continued silence of the Wachowski Brothers, who don't do any press. ''Why would they want to give answers to something that's about searching for yourself?'' says Reeves. He's got a point, but the shroud of mystery surrounding the writer-directors got a little tattered earlier this year when older sibling Larry showed up to ''Reloaded'''s L.A. premiere dressed kinda funny with a supposed dominatrix on his arm. ''Did that happen?'' Reeves asks seriously. ''I don't remember that.'' So he's the one.
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Double Trouble

''Matrix'' movies create an Oscar dilemma. Warner Bros. is worried that their two-part movie may compete against itself in the Oscar race.

If Warner Bros. ends up not submitting ''The Matrix Reloaded'' for Oscar consideration, it won't be because they were disappointed in the sequel. It's just that the Academy has decreed that ''Reloaded'' and November's ''The Matrix Revolutions'' must be considered separately, leaving Warner Bros. worried that the two would compete with each other and hurt the franchise's Oscar chances, according to the Hollywood Reporter. So Warner Bros. is currently considering submitting only ''Revolutions'' for the awards, the trade paper reports.

Meanwhile, Miramax could face a similar dilemma with ''Kill Bill.'' The first part of the movie (which was initially set to be a single film) is set for release Oct. 10, and the studio has considered releasing the second part before Oscar's Dec. 31 cutoff, according to the Reporter. The studio has yet to come up with an Oscar strategy for the film, but the easiest gambit might be to simply release ''Kill Bill Vol. 2.'' Since director Quentin Tarantino hasn't actually finished the second movie yet, he probably agrees.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on August 19, 2003, 09:10:08 PM
nice

check for the shot of the nebakanezzar in the feilds.  Man i hope this thing delivers.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on August 21, 2003, 01:36:29 AM
i hate all this fuckin' press about Revolutions talking about how much of a fuckin' disappointment Reloaded was. like its fuckin' become a bigger disappointment with time. it wasn't even that huge of a fuckin' disappointment with the critics who were actually fuckin' disappointed by it when it was being freshly reviewed..and that Entertainment Weekly shitbit goes on to talk about how the Brothers' whole career in Hollywood and film making and la LA LA DEE DOO is at stake if they don't 'wow.' audiences with this one like the didn't 'wow.' audiences with the last like how the last one was stupid. FUCK.

fuckin' hell, Mary.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on August 21, 2003, 09:53:57 AM
i agree fuck assholes like that.  Its like one critic uses that as a springboard to talk about revolutions and now everybody is doing it.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Jake_82 on August 21, 2003, 03:47:16 PM
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Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on August 23, 2003, 04:48:23 PM
has anyone here read THIS (http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=38092) heavily well thought out theory??

WARNING:
COULD PROVE TO BE SPOILTASTICAL IF READ OR OTHERWISE INGESTED. POSSIBLY THE REAL DEAL, THOUGH ACTUAL SPECULATION.

fits really well, but i've found a few holes in it here and there.. anyone want to discuss their take?

all talk on this should be kept in the secret colour.

[.color=white.][./color.] (without the dots)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Anachronism on August 23, 2003, 07:32:32 PM
*******************************SPOILER(If for some reason you haven't seen "The Matrix," or "Reloaded")***************************

In my many travels I would have to say that the most comprehensive and definitive user's guide to the matrix (aside from two fantastic books, "Taking The Red Pill: Philosophy, Science and Religion in The Matrix," and of course "The Matrix and Philosophy") has been a gem of a site dedicated to revealing the layers of corruption and prescribed bullshit that we are inundated with today. The website itself is a fantastic read, but this article itself really got me going.

     http://www.corporatemofo.com/stories/051803matrix.htm
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Just Withnail on August 24, 2003, 09:24:28 AM
Quote from: picolashas anyone here read THIS (http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=38092) heavily well thought out theory??

WARNING:
COULD PROVE TO BE SPOILTASTICAL IF READ OR OTHERWISE INGESTED. POSSIBLY THE REAL DEAL, THOUGH ACTUAL SPECULATION.

fits really well, but i've found a few holes in it here and there.. anyone want to discuss their take?

all talk on this should be kept in the secret colour.

[.color=white.][./color.] (without the dots)

I just read through that guy's theories, and man were they heavy on the head. Right now I hope he's correct, and it seems to fit pretty well, but I can't help but think how dissapointed I'll be, come November, if he's wrong. Would be a kick major ass twist to the story.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on August 24, 2003, 09:58:52 AM
i want to read it bad but im not going to.  "I Like To Go In Fresh!"
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: ©brad on August 24, 2003, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: picolashas anyone here read THIS (http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=38092) heavily well thought out theory??

well i didn't read the entire thing b/c i didn't care much for the writer's arrogant 'im going to conquer this movie' attitude. however, this part-

This raises another logic problem: If we suppose *cows* were used in such a battery system, then why the fheck would you plug their brains into a VR simulation? You wouldn't. The same argument can be applied for the humans, then. Why not just keep your animals chemically sedated the whole while, or disable their higher brainfunction altogether and simply breed brainless bodies to harvest your energy from? There is absolutely no necessity for creating the VR world inside the Matrix -- unless, in your godly Robot rulership, you generously decided to keep the cattle entertained. ...Or yourself.
Think about that.

i thought about it for a minute after watching the first one, but doesn't it have to do w/ stimulating the brain and in doing that providing the machines w/ more power?

what makes me sad about ppl like this is their incessant efforts to find holes in movies, and in turn, ruining the experience. a plot hole in a movie has to be really big in order for the movie to sink, and in the matrix movies, u will find no such holes.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on August 25, 2003, 01:54:11 PM
Quote from: ©bradwhat makes me sad about ppl like this is their incessant efforts to find holes in movies, and in turn, ruining the experience. a plot hole in a movie has to be really big in order for the movie to sink, and in the matrix movies, u will find no such holes.
naw, man.. he's making a brilliant theory. he's not trying to ruin it for anybody. well, in the spoil sense, maybe.. but he's interpreting things he considers out of place as clues. not major flaws in the series. at the end of the article, he praises the Wachowskis.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: ©brad on August 25, 2003, 02:45:30 PM
oh, well i guess i should read the whole thing, cuz i only skimmed it before. its just that everything i read came off really cynical, and it was all about pinpointing plot holes.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 12, 2003, 12:22:24 AM
Whether bullshit or not, it's interesting. Below is a link to what may or may not be the story outline for "Matrix Revolutions".

*AT YOUR OWN RISK - SPOILERS?*
http://www.xzaust.com/index.php?page=matrix
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on September 12, 2003, 12:41:01 AM
it's probably the real deal.. not that i've read it, but i hear it's amazing. and if they can link it all to images in the trailers, i believe it.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 13, 2003, 10:30:29 PM
Matrix Revolutions Commercial with More Footage!
Source: Code-Matrix  

The Code-Matrix has brought online a new 30-second commercial from The Matrix Revolutions which shows more footage from the highly-anticipated final installment! You can check it out here. (http://www.code-matrix.net/revo2.wmv)

It's poor quality, but still worth checking out.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on September 14, 2003, 05:34:43 PM
here are the links to 6 (SIX!) new spots, provided by our good friend sphinx.

ctrl (http://codematrix.free.fr/control.mpg)

help (http://codematrix.free.fr/help.mpg)

future (http://codematrix.free.fr/future.mpg)

the end (http://codematrix.free.fr/theend.mpg)

power (http://www.code-matrix.net/power.mpg)

enemy (http://codematrix.free.fr/enemy.mpg)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 15, 2003, 08:34:17 PM
how do you view the shorts?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on September 15, 2003, 09:35:58 PM
right click

save target as
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 15, 2003, 09:47:49 PM
Quote from: picolasright click

save target as

are you sure because thats not working for me
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Pubrick on September 15, 2003, 09:48:42 PM
he's right u get this "code-matrix.htm".
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 15, 2003, 09:56:02 PM
where the fucks macguffin when you need him
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 15, 2003, 10:00:52 PM
Looks like they took them down, probably at Warner's request. Coming Soon! had the spots up too, but even their site doesn't have them or that announcement anymore. But if you go to that link and where it says "6 Spots", click on the green "voir", you can see screenshots of the clips.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 15, 2003, 10:20:51 PM
yeah i saw that
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on September 15, 2003, 10:52:24 PM
couldn't get that, so i'm not sure if you guys saw these, but here you go


possible spoilers

http://picolas.jaako.com/cap1.jpg

http://picolas.jaako.com/cap2.jpg

http://picolas.jaako.com/cap3.jpg

http://picolas.jaako.com/cap4.jpg

http://picolas.jaako.com/cap5.jpg

http://picolas.jaako.com/cap6.jpg

http://picolas.jaako.com/cap7.jpg

http://picolas.jaako.com/cap8.jpg

http://picolas.jaako.com/cap9.jpg

http://picolas.jaako.com/cap10.jpg

http://picolas.jaako.com/cap11.jpg
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 15, 2003, 11:19:08 PM
looks pretty cool to me.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Pubrick on September 16, 2003, 12:16:16 AM
geez talk about major spoilers..

especially that last one.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on September 16, 2003, 12:22:45 AM
Quote from: Pgeez talk about major spoilers..

especially that last one.
my apologies. it's a porminent image in them all and we still have no idea what it could be, so i thought it was aight, but i'll put a warning up there.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 16, 2003, 12:24:15 AM
that pic isnt a spoiler, who knows what the hell it is
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Pubrick on September 16, 2003, 12:57:08 AM
i hav a good idea what it could be. either way it looks like a major composition.

no biggie picolbug, i'm still excited bout it.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 17, 2003, 07:50:00 PM
Smith, Neo and Gaeta on The Matrix Revolutions
Source: Premiere

Premiere magazine talked to the cast and crew of The Matrix Revolutions about just how big the final film will be.

Spoilers ahead...

The stage is set for the final confrontation between man and machine, as well as the climactic round between Neo's flying superman and his archenemy Smith (Weaving)—a fight that's been dubbed by the filmmakers as "the Superbrawl" and that takes place both in the skies above the Matrix and on the ground where the rogue agent's clones have reached epidemic proportions. "He's taking over," Weaving says. And if you thought the conclusion of Reloaded was startling, this is where you should really expect the unexpected. Such as a main character dying. Maybe. As well as a new Oracle (Mary Alice Smith). Despite its massive opening weekend and over $272 million gross, some fans and critics felt Reloaded didn't quite live up to the prerelease hype, but Reeves assures us that "the third part should be the most exciting. That's where it all happens. That's the climax. And in this piece I feel that happens."

But wait till you hear about the climax. Visual effects supervisor John Gaeta gives the scoop...

"[It] turns into a whole different type of science fiction animal. We really explode outside [into the real world] in this one." The climax alone, featuring an army of machines attacking Zion, was created at a cost of $40 million (two-thirds of the original's entire budget), and Gaeta promises "a volume of science fiction creature action that hasn't been around since Alien."
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 18, 2003, 07:54:17 PM
I just saw a TV spot during the Survivor premiere and it was awsome.  You got to give it to WB, they can market the hell out of a movie.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 18, 2003, 10:26:55 PM
Quote from: BankyI just saw a TV spot during the Survivor premiere and it was awsome.  You got to give it to WB, they can market the hell out of a movie.

I just saw it....and just creamed my pants.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on September 18, 2003, 10:29:30 PM
damn...must've missed it then. stoopid Canadian tv and its stoopid non-Matrix Survivor 7 premieres.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 18, 2003, 10:51:30 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: BankyI just saw a TV spot during the Survivor premiere and it was awsome.  You got to give it to WB, they can market the hell out of a movie.

I just saw it....and just creamed my pants.

Mac is it posted on the internet now?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 18, 2003, 10:54:28 PM
Quote from: BankyMac is it posted on the internet now?

I've been looking for it, but I don't expect to find it after the ads that picolas posted were taken down.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 18, 2003, 10:57:09 PM
i just figured since the spots are now on tv than somone would post them.  When the tv spots hit for reloaded whatisthematrix.com put them up shortly thereafter
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 19, 2003, 04:16:59 PM
you can thank me whenever

http://www.filecity.gr/file.asp?rec=3579
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 22, 2003, 05:07:11 PM
New Matrix Revolutions Spot, Two More on TV Tonight!
Source: Warner Bros. Pictures

The Matrix Revolutions marketing is going into overdrive today, releasing online the first new TV spot, titled 'Help' (see below). And be sure to watch the CBS season premiere of CSI: Miami and NBC season premiere of Fear Factor during which two more TV spots are expected to air. And don't forget to watch Entertainment Tonight either which will go behind-the-scenes of the film every day this week.


Hi-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_tv_help_640_dl.mov)
Med-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_tv_help_480_dl.mov)
Lo-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_tv_help_320_dl.mov)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: ©brad on September 23, 2003, 11:14:32 AM
mac we need to start out matrix avatars soon.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 23, 2003, 11:19:31 AM
Quote from: ©dawgmac we need to start out matrix avatars soon.

Already in the works. But waiting till it gets closer to the day.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Fernando on September 23, 2003, 11:42:03 AM
Quote from: MacGuffinNew Matrix Revolutions Spot, Two More on TV Tonight!
Source: Warner Bros. Pictures

The Matrix Revolutions marketing is going into overdrive today, releasing online the first new TV spot, titled 'Help' (see below). And be sure to watch the CBS season premiere of CSI: Miami and NBC season premiere of Fear Factor during which two more TV spots are expected to air. And don't forget to watch Entertainment Tonight either which will go behind-the-scenes of the film every day this week.


Hi-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_tv_help_640_dl.mov)
Med-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_tv_help_480_dl.mov)
Lo-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_tv_help_320_dl.mov)

I saw the CSI spot, is this the same that was shown during survivor? If so, it didn't impressed me, thing is I don't think Revolutions is going to be as good as Reloaded, I know I'm in the minority but Reloaded was absolutely fantastic, still hope I'm wrong about it.

Damn Mac (I know is not your fault, or is it?), I ate the whole show of ET and didn't showed shit, only emmy crap, they just announced that tomorrow (today) will have a behind the scenes.

On a side note, can't believe Raymond won over Curb, CYE is easily the best comedy out there (IMO), anyway, at least Sopranos won some.

Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: ©dawgmac we need to start out matrix avatars soon.

Already in the works. But waiting till it gets closer to the day.

Let the frenzy Rev. avatars begin.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 23, 2003, 07:38:10 PM
2 More Matrix TV Spots & Images!
Source: Warner Bros. Pictures

Warner Bros. has unleashed two more TV spots online for The Matrix Revolutions which you can download below. They first aired on network TV last night and are called 'Power' and 'Control'. You can also check out a new gallery of pictures from the third film at the official website (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rv_cmp/photos_rev_main.html)!

Power:
Hi-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_tv_power_640_dl.mov)
Med-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_tv_power_640_dl.mov)
Lo-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_tv_power_320_dl.mov)

Control:
Hi-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_tv_cont_640_dl.mov)
Med-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_tv_cont_480_dl.mov)
Lo-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_tv_cont_320_dl.mov)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 24, 2003, 11:18:51 PM
The Matrix Revolutions Trailer Update!

Are you ready for the full theatrical trailer for The Matrix Revolutions?! You'll be able to see it in theaters this weekend, it will be televised tomorrow (Thursday) on entertainment programs such as Entertainment Tonight and Access Hollywood, and it will also come online in high-resolution format! The length of the trailer? It's longer than the three TV spots combined.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 24, 2003, 11:37:49 PM
will it be different than the other trailers?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 24, 2003, 11:42:03 PM
Quote from: Bankywill it be different than the other trailers?

Should be.

Like you won't watch it anyway.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 24, 2003, 11:54:59 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Bankywill it be different than the other trailers?

Should be.

Like you won't watch it anyway.

of course but i was just curious.

You know i have some friends that call me Whiskers
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: edison on September 25, 2003, 12:01:09 AM
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Bankywill it be different than the other trailers?

Should be.

Like you won't watch it anyway.

of course but i was just curious.

You know i have some friends that call me Whiskers

Curiosity killed the cat.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 25, 2003, 12:06:40 AM
Quote from: EEz28
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Bankywill it be different than the other trailers?

Should be.

Like you won't watch it anyway.

of course but i was just curious.

You know i have some friends that call me Whiskers

Curiosity killed the cat.

i guess you missed the reference
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: edison on September 25, 2003, 08:31:44 AM
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: EEz28
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Bankywill it be different than the other trailers?

Should be.

Like you won't watch it anyway.

of course but i was just curious.

You know i have some friends that call me Whiskers

Curiosity killed the cat.

i guess you missed the reference

I guess so.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Sleuth on September 25, 2003, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: EEz28
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: EEz28
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Bankywill it be different than the other trailers?

Should be.

Like you won't watch it anyway.

of course but i was just curious.

You know i have some friends that call me Whiskers

Curiosity killed the cat.

i guess you missed the reference

I guess so.

Hey, what's going on guys?  Nothing much here
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 25, 2003, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: tremolosloth
Quote from: EEz28
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: EEz28
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Bankywill it be different than the other trailers?

Should be.

Like you won't watch it anyway.

of course but i was just curious.

You know i have some friends that call me Whiskers

Curiosity killed the cat.

i guess you missed the reference

I guess so.

Hey, what's going on guys?  Nothing much here

I like the new TV spots they are coming on quite frequently.  I wonder if this film ends up being really good if people who didnt go to Reloaded b/c of bad word of mouth, if they will se Revolutions?


Fred Slacks is a winner!
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: modage on September 25, 2003, 04:12:36 PM
OH...........MY.........GOD.........

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmembers.fortunecity.com%2Fthemodernage%2Fmatrix1.jpg&hash=fdb5c2c58440ffb5c15cbc43ac809effaffe7116)

did anyone else know they were making a THIRD MATRIX movie?!!?!?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 25, 2003, 04:25:58 PM
HaHa. I had just put that photo up as my wallpaper yesterday.

Quote from: themodernage02did anyone else know they were making a THIRD MATRIX movie?!!?!?

What will really bake your noodle, is the Wachowski Bros. are planning nine movies, and this is the middle trilogy. But they may not get that far because CGI is ruining cinema.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: ShanghaiOrange on September 25, 2003, 04:50:21 PM
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: tremolosloth
Quote from: EEz28
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: EEz28
Quote from: Banky
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Bankywill it be different than the other trailers?

Should be.

Like you won't watch it anyway.

of course but i was just curious.

You know i have some friends that call me Whiskers

Curiosity killed the cat.

i guess you missed the reference

I guess so.

Hey, what's going on guys?  Nothing much here

I like the new TV spots they are coming on quite frequently.  I wonder if this film ends up being really good if people who didnt go to Reloaded b/c of bad word of mouth, if they will se Revolutions?


Fred Slacks is a winner!

Let's see how long we can keep this nested quote going! :(
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: modage on September 25, 2003, 05:29:55 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinHaHa. I had just put that photo up as my wallpaper yesterday.

oh, i think i've seen that wallpaper.

is this it? (http://members.fortunecity.com/themodernage/bestwallpaperofalltime.zip)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 25, 2003, 05:37:48 PM
Quote from: themodernage02oh, i think i've seen that wallpaper.

is this it? (http://members.fortunecity.com/themodernage/bestwallpaperofalltime.zip)

I wondered what it would be like if I was a fly.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on September 25, 2003, 06:39:11 PM
theatricaltrailersupattheofficialsitegogogooo
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 25, 2003, 06:47:08 PM
New Trailer:

Hi-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_theatre_0x3839_640_dl.mov)
Med-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_theatre_0x3839_480_dl.mov)
Lo-Res (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med/rev_theatre_0x3839_320_dl.mov)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 25, 2003, 06:57:44 PM
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


42 days!

those trailers are giving me blue balls.  That shit was so crazy!
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Sleuth on September 25, 2003, 06:58:44 PM
Oh man, I feel like they showed too much and even spoiled some of Reloaded if anyone hasn't seen it yet (I know people who haven't seen it yet, actually)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on September 25, 2003, 07:13:26 PM
just three complaints

that shot of the cheering Zion army is really really funny.
that is sooooooooooooooo not Keanu getting a backface full of tile.
they should've pumped up the volume. or at least abrought the beat back.

i asked someone who knew what was happening in Revolutions if everything had been spoiled...nah.. there's still lots 'o' shit. 'member the Architect and the truck crash? mmmemfhdfkjfpphelicopterdjfkjdkfds..
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 25, 2003, 07:38:55 PM
im not saying you just did picolas but lets really try to keep the thred spoiler free

anyone know a good site with Matrix Revolutions wallpaper

i love this pic.  I want to see the fields some more

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frv_img%2Fphoto_rev_sept_24.jpg&hash=24f59f2150b40e69f0f668e353a39d73d2e08a60)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 27, 2003, 08:40:29 PM
The Matrix Revolutions Soundtrack on November 4
Source: Don Davis' Official Site

The Maverick Records soundtrack to The Matrix Revolutions will be released on November 4, 2003, one day before the movie opens, and will have over an hour of music on it.

Included are the song "In My Head" by Pale 3, which plays in the Merovingian's Hell Club (3:46), two cues that feature Don Davis' collaboration with Juno Reactor, a 9 minute end credit re-mix of Don Davis' "Super Burly Brawl" music by Juno Reactor, and 45 minutes of orchestral underscore by Don Davis.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 27, 2003, 09:48:13 PM
Mac is this  gonna be the official Matrix Revolutions thread?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 27, 2003, 09:51:08 PM
:yabbse-huh:   After 13 pages I would think so.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 27, 2003, 09:57:48 PM
will it be moved to now showing when the movie comes out

what about for old times   "What did you think of Matrix Revolutions?"
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 27, 2003, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: Bankywill it be moved to now showing when the movie comes out

what about for old times   "What did you think of Matrix Revolutions?"

I had no intention on moving it. This one will stay as updates and news and we'll start a new one for member reviews.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on September 29, 2003, 02:16:55 PM
The Matrix Revolutions Gets Simultaneous Release Worldwide
Source: Warner Bros. Pictures

Warner Bros. Pictures and Village Roadshow Pictures will unveil The Matrix Revolutions, the final explosive chapter in the blockbuster "Matrix" trilogy, at the exact same moment in time in every major city around the world on November 5. This unprecedented distribution scenario will make the highly anticipated film available to fans simultaneously at 6 a.m. in Los Angeles, 9 a.m. in New York, 2 p.m. in London, 5 p.m. in Moscow, 11 p.m. in Tokyo and at corresponding times in over 50 additional countries worldwide. The announcement was made today by Dan Fellman, President of Domestic Distribution, Warner Bros. Pictures, and Veronika Kwan-Rubinek, President of International Distribution, Warner Bros. Pictures.

"Given the enormous popularity and success of the 'Matrix' films throughout the international community, we're thrilled that we can bring the final chapter of this amazing trilogy to fans simultaneously around the world," Kwan-Rubinek said. "We thank our exhibitors for their unqualified support in staging this extraordinary event."

"The zero hour simultaneous opening of 'Revolutions' once again positions the 'Matrix' films as the cutting edge experience in motion pictures," Fellman added. "Audiences came out to see 'The Matrix Reloaded' in record numbers, and we appreciate the enthusiasm, collaboration and support of our exhibitors in helping us bring 'The Matrix Revolutions' to audiences on November 5."

"We received such an overwhelming response to 'Reloaded' from audiences around the globe that the Wachowski Brothers wanted to give our fans the chance to experience the final piece of the 'Matrix' puzzle at the same time in every major city worldwide," said Joel Silver, producer of the phenomenal "Matrix" trilogy. "It's an incredibly complex and exciting venture that furthers the Wachowskis' vision and underscores the trilogy's theme of integration."

To date, The Matrix Reloaded has earned over $734 million in worldwide box office, making it the highest-grossing film of 2003 and the highest-grossing R-rated film in history, both domestically and internationally. Additionally, "Reloaded" scored the record for the largest single week ever with $158.2 million and reached $150 million in a record-breaking six days domestically; internationally, it is the 10th highest grossing film of all-time, and is the first film in history to gross more than $100 million in a single weekend.

In conjunction with the "Revolutions" worldwide distribution event, "The Matrix Revolutions: The IMAX Experience" will debut at IMAX Theatres in the United States on November 5. This marks the first time a major Hollywood live-action event film is released concurrently in 35mm and IMAX's revolutionary 15/70 format.

Warner Bros. Pictures and Village Roadshow Pictures previously collaborated with IMAX on the hugely successful release of "The Matrix Reloaded: The IMAX Experience," which debuted on 39 IMAX screens on June 6, launching three weeks after the 35mm theatrical release of The Matrix Reloaded on May 15. "The Matrix Reloaded: The IMAX Experience" later expanded to 54 IMAX screens throughout North America and 12 screens internationally, grossing $12.4 million worldwide to date.

"Following the unprecedented audience response and box office performance of 'The Matrix Reloaded: The IMAX Experience,' we couldn't be happier to offer fans the chance to see 'The Matrix Revolutions: The IMAX Experience' on the same day as we open 'Revolutions' in 35mm," Dan Fellman said.

Like "The Matrix Reloaded: The IMAX Experience," "The Matrix Revolutions: The IMAX Experience" has been digitally re-mastered into the unparalleled image and sound quality of The IMAX Experience through revolutionary and proprietary IMAX DMR (Digital Re-mastering) technology. IMAX Theatres offer unequalled clarity and intensity of image as audiences experience one of the biggest films of the year on screens up to eight stories tall and 120 feet wide, and surrounded by 12,000 watts of pure digital sound.
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Post by: Banky on September 29, 2003, 05:21:18 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinThe Matrix Revolutions Gets Simultaneous Release Worldwide

9 a.m. in New York

does that mean all over the east coast it will be playing at 9 am or just in NY?

Quote from: MacGuffinTo date, The Matrix Reloaded has earned over $734 million in worldwide box office, making it the highest-grossing film of 2003 and the highest-grossing R-rated film in history, both domestically and internationally.

is that accurate?




I think this is pretty cool news.  It just will add hype for the movie which to me is good.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on September 29, 2003, 07:12:17 PM
the domestic release posters are up (clicky for bigee):

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frv_img%2Frv_poster_neo_thumb.jpg&hash=9794c7887b3daf3ea8f14d27f51dcadc68743116) (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rv_img/rv_poster_neo.jpg)

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frv_img%2Frv_poster_smith_thumb.jpg&hash=f78e099e65529b0c27504bd0f43290fa06d11230) (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rv_img/rv_poster_smith.jpg)


(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frv_img%2Frv_poster_morph_thumb.jpg&hash=70bfd13c9e97ac19bd3556510cd93cd9f8b2b2e4) (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rv_img/rv_poster_morph.jpg)


(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frv_img%2Frv_poster_apu_thumb.jpg&hash=ed0bda79504ee20ec36b2f6099df948714d6e064) (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rv_img/rv_poster_apu.jpg)

the last one's called "apu"...   :|
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on September 29, 2003, 07:15:23 PM
nice work
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: ©brad on September 30, 2003, 09:32:22 AM
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!

im a little over stimulated at the moment. time for sum

:drinking:

then

:sleeping:
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on October 03, 2003, 01:50:42 PM
this is something wierd for Matrix fans to analyze.  A site for the company Neo worked for in the first Matrix has been launched.

http://www.metacortechs.com/main.html
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on October 06, 2003, 03:43:17 PM
new intl poster

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frv_img%2Frv_poster_trinity_med.jpg&hash=a6fff13f35216cc0d4849474d72484cddb26096b)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on October 08, 2003, 11:27:55 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frv_img%2Frv_poster_smith.jpg&hash=648b2f4ed3e86d24f24a558e88a1c99889f19776)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on October 09, 2003, 02:26:53 PM
damn you Macguffin thats what i was about to post
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: ©brad on October 09, 2003, 02:54:10 PM
does everything that has a beginning have an end?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on October 09, 2003, 03:00:31 PM
Quote from: ©baddoes everything that has a beginning have an end?

A better question is: "Where does the end of me, become the start of you?"
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on October 09, 2003, 05:40:45 PM
i think Mac was meaning to post this:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frv_img%2Frv_poster_smith_med.jpg&hash=d69b954a111aa1b8d754cc824dc7a069692837c9)

:yabbse-undecided:
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: edison on October 09, 2003, 05:55:39 PM
what do you mean? he did post that poster.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Sleuth on October 09, 2003, 06:43:52 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: ©baddoes everything that has a beginning have an end?

A better question is: "Where does the end of me, become the start of you?"

If you die first, I am definitely going to eat you, but the question is, if I die first what are you going to do?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on October 09, 2003, 07:16:45 PM
Quote from: Cecil
Quote from: NEON MERCURY1.0  wake up and cook my mom her fav. meal..(mac and cheese

:shock: macguffin, run, RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!

Quote from: tremoloslothIf you die first, I am definitely going to eat you, but the question is, if I die first what are you going to do?

As far as I'm concerned, y'all can Eat Me!
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Newtron on October 10, 2003, 07:27:49 AM
Quote from: ©baddoes everything that has a beginning have an end?
Yup. But also, every end is a beginning.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on October 10, 2003, 06:52:12 PM
Quote from: EEz28what do you mean? he did post that poster.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpicolas.jaako.com%2Ftheychangedsomething.jpg&hash=f270d586d73a48d4ceeb424a2f1362c4d298474d)

that must've been what they changed!!
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on October 14, 2003, 11:21:19 PM
The Official Site has released new photos here. (http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/rv_cmp/photos_rev_main.html)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: samuelclemens on October 15, 2003, 06:42:39 AM
the matrix films kind of suck, am i alone on this one??
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on October 15, 2003, 08:19:38 AM
hey new guy.  My grundle could use a good nibiling.  Could you come over and help me out?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on October 16, 2003, 07:41:13 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpicolas.jaako.com%2Fmatrixguy1.jpg&hash=1add90924a0829f7611f6b0fdde8772c75f0682d)
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpicolas.jaako.com%2Fmatrixguy2.jpg&hash=c3ce3ac67b34069b5b0b79bf8682d9185b77e114) (https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpicolas.jaako.com%2Fmatrixguy3.jpg&hash=1357e850061fc28c2ed8ee31148fcdf2d41b1b42)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on October 16, 2003, 08:12:44 PM
good eye
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: NEON MERCURY on October 16, 2003, 08:19:47 PM
Quote from: samuelclemensthe matrix films kind of suck, am i alone on this one??

..this is MY opinion on the matrix films..

the first one was great ..just a really cool stylized action film and a unique plot however ridicolous it is..
..i own it also..on dvd

the second one had some problems IMO ..
1.0  the stupid "armageddon like" love scene was pure cheese.
2.0  the zion city scene was laughable
3.0  the "ridiculous" plot got even more ridiculous(i.e. the whole matrix creator character...it's both  :roll:  &  :lol: )
...on the good side the action is phenomenal ..brilliant .the powers that be knew that people went to see the first one b/c of the action.(and you know  i'm right)..and they delivered w/reloaded ..more and better and longer action sequences
..it seems like right after the sucess of the first onbe the creators thought"man. i can't believe the suprised sucess of our first film.!  lets ruin the quality of the first film that made it special and create not one but two sequels .and lets load up on the action sequences...who cares about anything else ..thats why people went in the first place to see the first one..the action.  right on bro.  lets do this "..
..but still i plan to own this on dvd..

as for revolutions ...watch for more of the same in reloaded..bad reviews by fans and critics and raking in a busload of $$$$$$$$$$$

..i plan to own this on dvd when released.....
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on October 16, 2003, 08:22:08 PM
Reloaded was the shit and everyone will shut the fuck up after Revolutions comes out.



hopefully
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: edison on October 18, 2003, 12:06:05 PM
The BBFC has announced a runtime of 129 mins
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on October 18, 2003, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: BankyReloaded was the shit and everyone will shut the fuck up after Revolutions comes out.



hopefully

No one will ever shut the fuck up about the Matrix, don't waste your time hoping for it.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: SHAFTR on October 18, 2003, 05:39:07 PM
why did i buy The Matrix Deflated on DVD?  Was it because it was only $15?, was it because I loved The Matrix?  ughhh.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on October 19, 2003, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: Walrus, KooKookajoob
Quote from: BankyReloaded was the shit and everyone will shut the fuck up after Revolutions comes out.



hopefully

No one will ever shut the fuck up about the Matrix, don't waste your time hoping for it.

i meant that all the "LOVE HATERS" will stop criticizing Reloaded.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on October 19, 2003, 02:47:36 PM
Quote from: SHAFTRwhy did i buy The Matrix Deflated on DVD?  Was it because it was only $15?, was it because I loved The Matrix?  ughhh.
hahaaa.. you've already made the choice.. you just don't understand it.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: sickfins on October 19, 2003, 03:46:14 PM
the joel silver mix n' match chart was made over a year ago

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fambulance.planet1337.com%2Fwoo.gif&hash=fffecd8d9e1b73ef4e1721e0138a58b2e4f9fa2f)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on October 19, 2003, 09:06:04 PM
TV Guide Features 3-D Matrix Revolutions Covers
Source: TheMatrix.com

On October 20, TV Guide will put on newsstands three 3-D collectible covers for their new The Matrix Revolutions feature story "Secrets of the Matrix". The magazine will also have a fourth cover available with a picture of Neo.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frv_img%2Ftvg_1.jpg&hash=4976a0ee5e8e4f5a494080fd6dfe2ea5b901b4d7)
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frv_img%2Ftvg_2.jpg&hash=82f8eafddbd9de718e57872f24f20bf9b1b13298)
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frv_img%2Ftvg_3.jpg&hash=d480a63bf1549de744fe718ab9140d4d80e9850a)
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisthematrix.warnerbros.com%2Frv_img%2Ftvg_4.jpg&hash=394a4602add649ecbb5c86800b146fd6350d0d61)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Sleuth on October 19, 2003, 09:09:27 PM
Ooo, Scott Foley
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on October 19, 2003, 09:18:53 PM
Quote from: tremoloslothOoo, Scott Foley

He's single now. Now's your chance.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Sleuth on October 19, 2003, 09:20:31 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: tremoloslothOoo, Scott Foley

He's single now. Now's your chance.

I don't know, this Joe Millionaire might actually be rich

^_____________________^
so many choices
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on October 20, 2003, 11:10:19 AM
New Commercials:

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/achionh/_wsn/rev_15secspot2_tvg.avi

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/achionh/_wsn/rev_30secspot_fx_tvg.avi

http://podesign.co.uk/~crumb/NeoFlyspot.avi
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on October 20, 2003, 06:28:13 PM
Big Matrix Revolutions Clip Online!
Source: Today Tonight

A website for the Australia TV program Today Tonight has a clip that shows quite a lot of new footage from The Matrix Revolutions.

Check it out here (http://creek.i7.com.au/wvx/news/0310/tt_031020_matrix_low.wvx) in Windows Media format!
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on October 20, 2003, 06:44:56 PM
nice find.  That fight with Neo and Smith is gonna be fucking insane.  They should have put some of that shit in the trailer.

Mac how do you decide where to post Matrix news?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: modage on October 20, 2003, 11:56:56 PM
goddamn this shit is cold...

The Hollywood Wax Museum are relocating their figures of Matrix stars Keanu Reeves and Carrie-Anne Moss - because they're not "current" enough. Even though the third and final installment of the sci-fi series - The Matrix Revolutions - is due for release next month, bosses at the museum are unconvinced the film will prove a hit after the lukewarm reception of May's The Matrix Reloaded. The museum's manager Tej Sundher says, "We try to stay current. The Matrix Reloaded was current. It is not now. We are looking to find a replacement. I don't know if they're not interested in the new movie. But our patrons really tell us what they want to see."
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: edison on October 21, 2003, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: Bankythis is something wierd for Matrix fans to analyze.  A site for the company Neo worked for in the first Matrix has been launched.

http://www.metacortechs.com/main.html

thats funny, i searched for Thomas Anderson and it says:

Name: Anderson, Thomas

***TRANSFERRED***

No forwarding information available.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: edison on October 21, 2003, 04:40:37 PM
Keanu Reeves has been blabbing about The Matrix Revolutions, telling BBCi FILMS, "I'm really excited that it's coming out and that people get to see this remarkable movie. I really enjoyed it when I saw it. I thought the performances and how it comes together in the action and the cinema of it was pretty extraordinary. I think there's a lot of compassion, a lot of love in it, and it's the backbone, the raison d'être of the pieces." Producer Joel Silver, meanwhile, has ruled out another Matrix movie - even though Revolutions leaves room for one. "This is it. This is the end," he told BBCi FILMS. "The boys [Larry and Andy Wachowski] have an idea for an online game which they're going to start working on, that may be coming out next summer, which will still incorporate themes from The Matrix and the story. But this story, this physical story of this movie, is over."
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on October 21, 2003, 06:49:44 PM
The world of the Matrix just seems to amazing to not continue to explore
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Weak2ndAct on October 21, 2003, 06:57:38 PM
Well, I suspect it will continue on in other mediums.  There is a volume of comics coming out soon that you can pre-order on Amazon.  While there might not be anymore movies in the near future, I highly doubt that Warner Bros. would let such a geek-worthy franchise fall by the wayside.  I wonder if the Wachowski's have any kind of approval clause in terms of merchandising.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: markums2k on October 25, 2003, 01:01:48 AM
You have to read this with that deep announcer voice:

The Matrix Renewed: The Animated Adventures of Neo and Trinity.

Coming this spring to the WB.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on October 25, 2003, 02:55:17 PM
Matrix Revolutions Superbrawl & Soundtrack Clips!!

Want an early peek at footage from The Matrix Revolutions, opening just a week-and-a-half from now? If you don't mind spoilers then you can check out four clips in ASF format here (http://users.skynet.be/pir/mo91694.asf), here (http://users.skynet.be/pir/mo91693.asf), here (http://users.skynet.be/pir/mo91692.asf) and here (http://users.skynet.be/pir/mo91691.asf)!

Meanwhile, the official website  (http://intothematrixmusic.com/cmp/listen_rev.html)has the soundtrack listing and you can listen to samples from the music!
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A 7-Minute Look at Matrix Revolutions!

Yahoo! Movies has up a 7-minute look at the highly-anticipated The Matrix Revolutions, opening Wednesday, November 5.

The clip, available in the Windows Media and Real formats, features interviews with the stars and never-before-seen footage from the third film. Watch here. (http://mediaframe.yahoo.com/launch?lid=wmv-56-p.1236827-117756,wmv-100-p.1236828-117756,wmv-300-p.1236829-117756&p=movies&f=1808402448&.spid=1808520573&.dist=Warner%20Brothers&type=m)
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on October 26, 2003, 10:03:21 AM
does the Yahoo movie one have spoilers MAc.  Did you watch the ones that did?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: MacGuffin on October 26, 2003, 10:46:24 AM
Quote from: Bankydoes the Yahoo movie one have spoilers MAc.  Did you watch the ones that did?

The Yahoo one is pretty much spoiler free. It's basically talking heads interviews. The clips shown are minor extentions of the scenes shown in the trailers.

The four clips are a good portion of scenes. So you you want to be completely surprised, don't watch.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: modage on October 27, 2003, 10:18:48 PM
INTERVIEWS: The Matrix Revolutions Press Conference!
Source: Coming Soon! Tuesday, October 28, 2003

Warner Bros. held a press conference on Monday morning for The Matrix Revolutions, and ComingSoon.net was on hand to listen to what the stars and crew had to say. What follows is what Keanu Reeves (KR), Carrie-Anne Moss (CAM), Laurence Fishburne (LF) and producer Joel Silver (JS) had to say.

What is the strength of doing films back-to-back? What advice can you give to others who attempt to do the same?

LF: Time is always against us, as you know. If you're going to endeavor to do something like this, it helps to have a lot of money.

CAM: And to really love it. To love the movie is important. I would recommend you only do it if you really love what you're doing.

Why open the movie at the same time around the world?

JS: We felt that our fans would really want to see the movie right away, so we had the idea to open the movie on the same day. And because of the reality of piracy and the fact that sometimes these movies are playing in theaters and before they get there they're available on street corners, we decided to have an actual moment by moment release so at 9 a.m. New York time it's zero hour, which is 6 a.m. in the morning in LA and sometime during the day in the continent and 11 p.m. in Tokyo, this movie will begin playing on almost 20,000 screens worldwide in over 63 countries.

Do you still feel the bruises and bangs from the shoot?

LF: I think we all recovered very nicely actually.

What do you think of the IMAX version of "Reloaded"?

LF: I saw it over the summer, I think. It was really a tremendous experience to see it that big, particularly your entrance, Carrie-Anne. In IMAX it's sick. It's great.

What are your emotions today knowing this is probably the end of the ride?

CAM: It's bittersweet, you know. For me anyway, I really want to celebrate this evening and to really feel with my friends and family here the fruits of the labor that we put all our hearts and souls into. And at the same time, like the poster says, every beginning has an end. I feel very much that same way. When I saw that first poster, I literally started crying. I was like Oh My God that's so reflective, not only of the journey of the film but the journey of my life on this movie. It's a very exciting day to be in the venue we're going to, I can't wait for that, and to see the movie with everybody and to say goodbye to a big segment of my life. It's big.

Do you approach a part differently when you're playing it over this much time?

LF: I don't know if any of us knew we were going to be playing these characters for this long. We sort of knew that there was a trilogy somewhere and we were hoping they were going to make these movies, but for myself, I know I just signed on for the one movie and then we performed really well and it was made clear that there were two other movies and they wanted us all to come back. So I think for myself it's just taking it one scene and one sequence at a time. One scene and one fight sequence at a time, whatever it is.

Can you reflect on the experience of playing Neo?

KR: It was a great role, great project and I got to work with some special artists and people. It was, for me, a really special endeavor. It's exciting that the last one, Revolutions, is opening.

Can you talk about shooting the fight sequence at the end?

KR It was just another element. What happened was that on the first take when Hugo and I, Smith and Neo fight, rain came down and we realized that we couldn't see each other. But we'd fought so much together that we actually didn't have to see, which was kind of a cool thing. It was just dramatic, it as fun. Like a ton of water a minute or something like that. Yeah, so we were wet for a couple of weeks, or six weeks.

What philosophies did you take away from the film?

LF: Well I have a very large samurai sword that I keep at home now.

What Neo superpower would you like to have in real life?

KR: I'll take the flying. Flying looks fun.

Can you talk about the strength of the women in the film?

CAM: I love playing Trinity. The first time around that I, in the first Matrix I was just like wow, this is such a great character. Then to have gotten to play her through not just being the girl that kicks ass, I think it's important to not just have women who just kick ass, it's like all of the characters in the Revolutions, all the women they have so much heart and soul and they're strong and it's not like they're just one dimension and I love that and that's really an attribute to Larry and Andy because they really understand women and they understand people and it's been an honor to play a woman with the kind of strength that Trinity has, with her heart and her body too. It's been great. I love it.

Who were your heroes growing up?

LF: My heroes were all great actors and great musicians. Movie heroes, I don't know, typical, John Wayne, Steve McQueen, Sidney Poitier, Charles Bronson, Jimmy Coburn, Katherine Hepburn, another hero of mine. With respect to what kids or young people will get from this divine trinity of these three characters is, it's not for us to say. Whatever they need. If they get whatever they need, then we've done proper service to not just the filmmakers but the larger thing which is the story itself. So there you have it.

Does the fashion of the film put any pressure on you to be a fashionista?

KR: I don't believe so.

How has your relationship with the brothers evolved?

CAM: They are really extraordinary people. They absolutely knew how they wanted to see each and every moment of this film so really we were just a conduit to their expression of the film, I think. For me for sure. We had so many great conversations. They're really smart interesting guys and it wasn't so important to me that I understood every single thing intellectually. For me it's my heart, understanding something and feeling things. But I sure loved hearing them talk about it, all of the ideas of the movie. We all talked about it. We're all very conscious people and looking to understand ourselves and the world more, and the movie really reflects those ideas. In knowing them over six years of my life, they absolutely created the character that I just gave life to. They told me how to do everything that I did. I really wanted to give them that.

Has your involvement in the films spawned interest in the video games, anime projects, books, etc.

LF: Funny because I was sort of aware of those things before we got to the Matrix. It was all kinda like we were watching Anime and reading books and watching movies, and then I met these two guys who had this idea about taking all the wonderful things from those things and sort of making what they made.

How did everyone say goodbye to their characters?

LF: Well the groovy thing about these characters is that they're gonna live with us for the rest of our lives, so we don't necessarily have to say goodbye to them. We're going to be walking around with them for the rest of our lives pretty much. So they're all a part of us now.

What is the new tattoo on your arm?

KR: It's a movie tattoo. Something that I have for a character.

What kinds of themes would you recommend discussing with your children after seeing the film?

CAM: I would say let your child show you. Let the kid, you know, kids are so much more intelligent than we are anyway. I love to see what kids think of the movie because they get so much more than so many adults do.

CAM: I don't remember it ever being difficult.

Do you enjoy the more theatrical scenes or fighting scenes?

KR: I prefer, it's not even prefer, the scene say with Neo and the architect? I love scenes like that, ideas and confrontation, the drama of that scene, and then it's fun to do fake fighting. It's fun.

How was the metro scene to film?

What happens in that thing, it was a set that actually, is where you saw a different color palette being introduced into the schemes of colors throughout the piece. Zion has a color scheme. The Matrix itself has a color scheme. That place that Neo comes to at the top of Revolutions has a whole other scheme to it, so that was interesting.

Was there ever a concern that the series was too philosophically complex? Do you feel the last film resolves the questions of the series?

LF: Well I think what's great about it is that it doesn't really try to answer any of those questions for you. I think it really engages you in a way. It engages the audience, it challenges the audience to actually engage in thinking about these things and it operates on so many different levels that it allows you, if you want, to explore the different philosophies inside it, the religious symbolism that's inside of it, you can explore that. But if you wanna take a really great ride and be purely entertained, you can do that as well.

Can you talk specifically about the climatic fight sequence?

KR: We wore wet suits underneath our costumes. Neo had I think 21 different casics, and I think five of them were used for the rain, different weights, how the fabric looked in rain and then how it moved. So I had a fight rain casic, a dry tugging casic. Also the other thing that Hugo and I found was that when we would do the scenes, we couldn't hear each other and we couldn't actually hear ourselves because the big, fat, juicy raindrops that had taken two months to design were loud. So that was kind of a, one of the, I guess to try to find the scene and feel the scene it was frustrating some of the time because you couldn't hear yourself and you couldn't hear your fellow actor. So we kind of had to work through that.

Is it hectic getting ready for a premiere?

CAM: It can be. It can be really crazy and then if you can kind of say calm, well for the girls, I don't know about the guys but, for the girls you start getting ready at like 4 o'clock. It's crazy. It reminds me of high school. You get ready for the dances with all your girlfriends, deciding what you're wearing. It's kind of fun, but it's also just, you kind of have to stay, for me anyway, as calm as possible so that you can be present and enjoy the evening and not be in the craziness of the event.

Keanu, what time do you start getting ready?

KR: I take a long time too.

The Matrix Revolutions explodes into theaters on Wednesday, November 5.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on November 04, 2003, 04:11:29 PM
THE LOST WACHOWSKI BROTHERS INTERVIEW

Interview conducted by Josh Horowitz

November 5, 2003

Before THE MATRIX rocked our world in 1999 and way before THE MATRIX RELOADED either rocked your world to another level or left you royally disappointed, Larry and Andy Wachowski were already ones to watch in Hollywood.

In 1996, armed with a screenplay credit from the forgettable Stallone/Banderas actioner ASSASSINS, the Chicago-born brothers now seemed to be going somewhere with a critically acclaimed thriller they had written and made their directorial debut on called BOUND. Today, the brothers are as infamous for their refusal to do any interviews as their curious mentions in the gossip columns. But in October of 1996, they were talking and I spoke with them.

At the time, I was hosting a tiny radio show in upstate New York where I was going to school. From the press I had seen on them and the film itself, they seemed like a worthy duo to talk to. Even before they tapped into the cultural zeitgeist with THE MATRIX, I had a soft spot for this interview. I spoke to them by phone and the two were obviously joined at the hip. Forget finishing each other's sentences. How about speaking the same phrases in unison! Often cracking each other and myself up with their lazy monotone voices, they brought deadpan to a whole new level.

While much of our discussion revolved around BOUND, the two do reveal their sense of humor and a bit of their sensibilities as they weigh in on what happened to ASSASSINS, a script for PLASTIC MAN, and an ambitious science fiction project they were trying to get made. I wonder how that one turned out...

Here is a transcript of my 1996 chat with Larry and Andy Wachowski.

Josh Horowitz: Larry and Andy Wachowski have directed and written the new film BOUND starring Jennifer Tilly and Gina Gershon. The film tells the story of Corky and Violet and a suitcase filled with two million dollars and it is generating much talk in the film world. I am pleased to welcome the Wachoski brothers. Larry, Andy, welcome.

LARRY AND ANDY WACHOSKI: (IN PERFECT UNISON) Thank you.

JH: This could be considered your big break. It's your first film that's generating some press. How difficult was it to get going on this project?

LW: It had it's difficult moments where things sort of seemed like they would fall apart forever particularly when we were trying to cast it. But as far as actually getting someone behind us, I mean Dino [De Laurentiis] really liked us after he made a lot of money on ASSASSINS.

AW: We were his good friends after that.

 
LW: We had told him we were interested in directing a movie and he's a guy who has made a career out of giving people their first break and he's great that way. He asked us what the story was about and we were a little nervous about telling him the story because he's sort of this old Italian patriarch and we knew it was going to be about lesbians. We were sort of beating around the bush trying to explain it. "There's a woman and then there's another woman..." Dino stopped us and was like...(in an Italian accent) "this first woman, she is a lesbian?!?"

AW: And we were like...uh yeah.

LW: "This second woman...she is a lesbian?!?"

AW: Um yeah, she was...

LW: Then he claps his hands and says "done we have a deal!"

JH: Yeah, I don't remember any lesbians in GODZILLA 1985.

LW and AW: LAUGHTER

AW: It was all in the subtext.

LW: It was subtext.

JH: What should a moviegoer going to see BOUND expect to see?

LW: Well, we sort of made it for people who are kind of like us who go to the movies a lot and are generally kind of bored by movies today. We tried to make a movie that was entertaining, that had sex and violence because we  
like sex and violence. And that had a lot of deeper intellectual concepts. The whole idea of playing in a genre that is so convention heavy as film noir. It's like you almost have this dialogue with your audience because they know the conventions and you know they know the conventions. You show them something and they say I know what that is and then you start to twist it and that becomes fun because with a genre like film noir, everyone has these assumptions and expectations. And once all of those things are in place, that's when you can really start to twist it about and mess around with it. And with BOUND, what we really wanted to do on another level was pull at the conventions. Because you begin to wonder why we have these conventions. Why do these stereotypes exist? What are stereotypes and where do they come from? You use that as the subtext. But that's all the boring stuff.

JH: What were the problems you encountered in casting the film?

AW: We thought we'd write a good script for women giving them the fun roles that generally men get and that women would be lining up around the block. But that wasn't the case. I guess they'd get to the sex scene and the script would go flying out their sun-roof right onto highway 10 there.

JH: You have Gina Gershon in this. Was there some ribbing about SHOWGIRLS on the set?

LW and AW: (INCREDULOUSLY) Noooooo.

AW: (FACETIOUSLY) No. Not at all. Why would you say that?

JH: Well, I heard it a got a little bit of bad press.

LW: You guys just didn't understand it.

LAUGHTER

JH: Was Dino De Laurentiis a close collaborator on the project or did he give you guys free reign?

LW: He's a guy who pretty much lets you do what you want. In the end, when you finish the film, he give his opinions. There are opinions he wants paid attention to.

AW: I mean he's been in the business for 300 years.

LW: He saw the first week of dailies and he was satisfied that we knew what we were doing and he pretty much left us alone until we were done.

JH: How does an idea like BOUND begin?

LW: Like I said, we really like the genre. People have made a lot of other comparisons but Billy Wilder is really is a heavy influence on BOUND. We felt that film noir was a genre where you could create a really contained story. We knew we wanted to be totally on a set as much as we could to get the kind of style level we were looking for. We had this idea about a woman who you would see on the street and make a host of sexual assumptions and they would all be wrong and that sort of lent itself to this constant idea of surfaces and truth under surfaces.

JH: You guys wrote the screenplay for ASSASSINS starring Sylvester Stallone a few years ago. Was that a good experience for you two?

PAUSE

AW: You're just trying to get us into trouble!

LAUGHTER

JH: What went wrong on that?

LW: The film was not really based on the screenplay. The one thing that sort of bothered us is that people would blame us for the screenplay and it's like Richard Donner is one of the few directors in Hollywood that can make whatever movie he wants exactly the way he wants it. No one will stop him and that's essentially what happened. He brought in Brian Helgeland and they totally rewrote the script. We tried to take our names off of it but the WGA doesn't let you. So our names are forever there.

JH: How did you guys start collaborating together? According to the press notes you started at age four or something...

LW: We didn't know how to answer that question in the press thing. I don't know. We've just been hanging out forever together. After college we started a carpentry business. While we were doing that, we wrote some comic books and while we were doing that, we read Roger Corman's autobiography which was truly inspirational and we decided to try to write a script for a low budget horror movie. We wrote one and that was it.

JH: Was film always ideally what you guys wanted to end up in?

AW: I guess. We've always loved going to the movies. We've been going to the movies since we were kids. Our mom and dad are big movie fans. They'd take us out on these movie orgys where we'd see sometimes three movies in a day.

JH: How do you two work together? Are you yelling at each other in a room? What's the process like exactly?

LW: Well, since we know that my ideas are always better we have an understanding in place. That was Andy by the way.

AW: No, that was Larry!

LW: Andy, Andy, Andy! Andy sucks.

JH: But seriously, is it a pretty easy relationship?

LW: You can kind of tell what's working and what isn't. We work on part of the script ourselves and then we switch. And we work on each other's and rewrite each other's stuff. It sort of works out that way.

JH: I understand you guys wrote a film for PLASTIC MAN. Is this actually going to be made into a film one day?

AW: You never know. For a while there, it looked like it was going to be another ASSASSINS.

LW: Originally they liked the script a lot and then they got a director and he didn't like the script. I don't know why directors sign on to these projects and completely rewrite everything but he rewrote it and now I guess he's not on the project anymore so we'll see.

JH: Was there a lot of research going to the comic book for that?

LW: We had read the comic book. We sort of thought it might be a funny idea. It's probably the closest script to a comedy we'll write. We thought it could be kind of cool. The basic idea we came up with was that he would be an environmentalist, almost like an Earth First-er type guy. The funny scene we thought of that was kind of the start of it all was like he goes to the bathroom after he becomes Plastic Man and his urine is no longer bio-degradable so he like wants to kill himself.

JH: Are your writing styles different? Does one of you like more action in a film or something?

AW: I tend to use more scatalogical humor than Larry.

LW: That's true. All of the butt jokes are Andy's.

JH: So what's next for both of you? What are you working on now?

LONG PAUSE

LW: There's a science fiction project that we really want to make but it's very expensive as they keep telling us so we'll see. Hopefully it will happen.

JH: Down the line are you both going to work independently or are you going to stay together?

LW: Well, we're both very very lazy and having someone else do half the work is very convenient.

JH: Do you have a prepared response when interviewers compare you to all those other famous brother filmmaking teams like the Coen brothers?

LONG PAUSE.

AW: We haven't quite gotten that response down pat yet.

LW: It's going to happen. It's automatic. We're brothers. They're brothers. We want to be compared to more sisters.
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on November 04, 2003, 07:09:48 PM
on TNT, they replace "My own personal Jesus Christ" with "My own personal Juvenile Delinquant"
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: picolas on November 04, 2003, 07:58:15 PM
Quote from: Bankyon TNT, they replace "My own personal Jesus Christ" with "My own personal Juvenile Delinquant"
TBS
how about if i give you a flipper?
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: Banky on November 04, 2003, 08:21:44 PM
thats what i meant
Title: another matrix thread (hot potato)
Post by: NEON MERCURY on November 06, 2003, 10:13:46 PM
...o-key-doe-key..here is some more ramblings on the matrix films that I have seen......

1.0 the story is cool
2.0 effects are cool
3.0  the acting is okay
4.0 all the technical aspects are cool
5.0  dialogue is not cool...why do they talk like that?????after every line you want to do this.... :roll:  :roll:  :roll: