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Title: Factotum
Post by: kotte on May 14, 2005, 05:00:16 PM
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Trailer here (http://media.filmweb.no/trailere/sf/SFN20050131/vkjdgdp12.mov).

Cast: Matt Dillon, Marisa Tomei, Lili Taylor

Director: Bent Hamer

Screenwriter: Charles Bukowski and Bent Hamer

Premise: This drama centers on a jack-of-all-trades who wanders around Los Angeles trying to live off jobs which don't interfere with his primary interests - women, drinking, gambling and writing.
Title: Factotum
Post by: kotte on May 14, 2005, 05:02:07 PM
This is a quite beautiful film with terrific performances by all involved. Dillon impressed.

And got some of the best music I've heard in a movie for a long time.
Title: Factotum
Post by: Ghostboy on May 14, 2005, 05:29:11 PM
I just saw the trailer for this yesterday - I had no idea it was even being made. It looks great. This was the first Bukowski novel I read, and it looks like a pretty decent adaptation.

What music is in it?
Title: Factotum
Post by: kotte on May 14, 2005, 05:35:25 PM
Quote from: GhostboyWhat music is in it?

Y'know, this is crap. I can't remember and it doesn't say on imdb. I guess I have to do some googleing.
Title: Factotum
Post by: kotte on May 19, 2005, 10:14:00 AM
Ghostboy...

The feeling I got from Chinaski is that the journey he makes is one of a tortured writer. That's what made me like this film so much and wanna read the book.

I know Chinaski is Bukowski's alter-ego but how much of the book is about that feeling? Or is it just a drunk losing jobs and women?
Title: Factotum
Post by: Ghostboy on May 19, 2005, 12:47:14 PM
Quote from: kotteOr is it just a drunk losing jobs and women?

That's pretty much the book. You do get the sense of him being a writer...a failed writer, that is...but it isn't as prevalent as even the trailer for the film made it out to be. Of course, since you know it's Bukowski writing loosely about himself, you can intuit a lot into the little bits he does include about sending off short stories.
Title: Factotum
Post by: cron on May 19, 2005, 09:27:03 PM
"...maybe death is giving me some signs? The other day I was thinking about the world without me. There is the world going on doing what it does. And I'm not there. Very odd. Think of the garbage truck coming by and picking up the garbage and I'm not there. Or the newspaper sits in the drive and I'm not there to pick it up. Impossible. And worse, some time after I'm dead, I'm going to be truly discovered. All those who were afraid of me or hated me when I was alive will suddenly embrace me. My words will be everywhere. Clubs and societies will be formed. It will be sickening. A movie will be made of my life. I will be made a much more courageous and talented man than I am. Much more. It will be enough to make the gods puke. The human race exaggerates everything: its heroes, its enemies, its importance. The fuckers. There, I feel better. God-damned human race. There, I feel better. The night is cooling off."

-him
Title: Factotum
Post by: kotte on May 20, 2005, 02:33:28 PM
Yeah, that's funny...:)
Title: Factotum
Post by: kotte on August 14, 2005, 05:42:21 AM
A Bukowski poem...


So You Want To Be a Writer?

if it doesn't come bursting out of you
in spite of everything,
don't do it.
unless it comes unasked out of your
heart and your mind and your mouth
and your gut,
don't do it.
if you have to sit for hours
staring at your computer screen
or hunched over your
typewriter
searching for words,
don't do it.
if you're doing it for money or
fame,
don't do it.
if you're doing it because you want
women in your bed,
don't do it.
if it's hard work just thinking about doing it,
don't do it.
if you're trying to write like somebody
else
forget about it.

if you have to wait for it to roar out of
you
then wait patiently.
if it never roar out of you,
do seomthing else.
if you first have to read it to your wife
or your girlfriend or your boyfriend
or your parents or to anybody at all,
you're not ready.

don't be like so many writers
don't be like so many thousands of
people who call themselves writers,
don't be dull and boring and
pretentious, don't be consumed with self-
love.
the libraries of the world have
yawned themselves to sleep
over your kind.
don't add to that.
don't do it.
unless it comes out of
your soul like a rocket,
unless being still would
drive you to madness or
suicide or murder,
don't do it.
unless the sun inside you is
burning your gut,
don't do it.

when it is truly time,
and if you have been chosen,
it will do it by
itself and it will keep on doing it
until you die or it dies in you.

there is no other way.

and there never was.
Title: Factotum
Post by: Pubrick on August 14, 2005, 06:12:30 AM
and yet flagpolespecial will continue to write..
Title: Factotum
Post by: GoneSavage on August 14, 2005, 11:10:41 AM
Is this better than Barfly?  I for one do not want to see Matt Dillon portraying Hank.
Title: Factotum
Post by: hedwig on August 14, 2005, 11:19:44 AM
Quote from: GoneSavageIs this better than Barfly?  I for one do not want to see Matt Dillon portraying Hank.

who would you want to see portray him
Title: Factotum
Post by: cron on August 14, 2005, 11:43:50 AM
ron perlman/ no one
Title: Factotum
Post by: GoneSavage on August 14, 2005, 11:49:19 AM
I think Mickey Rourke did a fine job.
Title: Re: Factotum
Post by: Redlum on November 09, 2005, 03:57:06 PM
This is one of my favourite films this year. Definately in the top five at the moment.

The music is beautiful. It took me ages to find but the song in the trailer is "Slow Day" by Dadafon who also did the rest of the score and the lyrics were from a poem I beleive. They're a hard to find norwegian band, their CDs arent even on Amazon but I managed to get it from limewire. If you dont have any luck, let me know and I'll email it.
Title: Re: Factotum
Post by: kotte on November 09, 2005, 05:53:55 PM
Quote from: ®edlum on November 09, 2005, 03:57:06 PM
If you dont have any luck, let me know and I'll email it.

Seriously...please!

christopher.norin@gmail.com
Title: Re: Factotum
Post by: gob on July 11, 2006, 04:26:55 PM
I saw the film ages ago at t' London Film Fest and I liked it. I wasn't blown away but I liked it. I think the best thing about it is Dillon's performace.
Whilst he may not give an 'accurate' portrayal of Bukowski/Chinaski as some people have complained I still think he does a good job at conveying a good amount of the character's traits and is a likeably 3 dimensional protagonist.
I think also the problem with doing a movie based on any Bukowski is that his prose/poetry is so great that you have to find a different and interesting way of translating that to screen somehow as you can't just have someone read it out or stick it as a subtitle for 90 odd minutes.

The movie's definitely worth seeing.

As for Born Into This I really want to see this as it looks very decent. Although I could probably do without that goonie Bono providing his insights.
Title: Re: Factotum
Post by: meatwad on July 11, 2006, 09:42:54 PM
Quote from: gob on July 11, 2006, 04:26:55 PM
Although I could probably do without that goonie Bono providing his insights.

bono is not in it much. i could deal with bono, because you also get the insights of tom waits
Title: Re: Factotum
Post by: gob on July 12, 2006, 02:43:50 AM
Sold.