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Trailer here. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/the_devils_rejects/)
Release Date: TBA 2005 (wide)
Cast: Natasha Lyonne (Candy), Steve Railsback (Sheriff Ken Dwyer), Bill Moseley (Otis Driftwood), Sid Haig (Captain Spaulding), Matthew McGrory (Tiny Firefly), Sheri Moon (Baby Firefly), Karen Black (Mother Firefly), P.J. Soles (Susan), Michael Berryman (Clevon), Ken Foree (Charlie Altamont), Kane Hodder, Robert Allen Mukes (R.J. Firefly)
Director: Rob Zombie (House of 1,000 Corpses)
Screenwriter: Rob Zombie (House of 1,000 Corpses)
Premise: The unthinkable horror and chaos continues a few weeks after the events depicted in House of 1000 Corpses, as this film's focus shifts to a conflict between the various evil family members of the first movie and a new set of murderous loonies, in a blood-soaked road movie that leaves that 'House' with all its corpses. With two gangs of bloodthirsty bodily mutilation enthusiasts set loose at each other's necks, who will emerge victorious? The conflict starts when the 'house of 1000 corpses' is raided by a S.W.A.T. team, where the events of the first film are discovered in all of their shocking horror... As the maniacs the media dubs "The Devil's Rejects" flee the scene of the many, many crimes as their house burns down, they take off on a bloody road trip...
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this is white trash - no pun intended
actually, and i HATED house of 1000 corpses. i thought it was a pile of badly written/acted/shot crap, like unbelievably bad. and when i heard sequel i though, oh god. but when i saw the trailer the other night i was actually thinking 'eh, ill probably rent this anyway'. i dont know why, i guess i'm just hopeful that maybe zombie can turn his obsession with horror movies into a decent maybe even good movie.
I feel exactly the same way. Except I'll probably see it in theaters. It can't be as bad as the first one...
Quote from: themodernage02actually, and i HATED house of 1000 corpses. i thought it was a pile of badly written/acted/shot crap, like unbelievably bad.
Quote from: GhostboyI feel exactly the same way. Except I'll probably see it in theaters. It can't be as bad as the first one...
Well, I for one, liked the first one, and didn't think it was "unbelievably bad." When you get really bad horror movies like "Jeepers Creepers" (which I feel about that film as mod-age probably feels about this one), "Wrong Turn," "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" remake and so on, where you want the main 'hero' characters to die, and yet aren't really behind the 'killer(s)', I'll take this kind of fun horror movie over those.
jeepers creepers is good! i loved the idea of 1000 corpses but hated the execution!
Quote from: themodernage02jeepers creepers is good!
And that's why you have the avatar rank you do.
dude, its two movies we strongly disagree on! that doesnt mean i'm against everything you stand for.
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New Trailer here. (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1351904&sdm=web&qtw=480&qth=300)
That's the best damn poster I've seen in ages.
I love, love, love, love, love the first.
*goes and giggles in the corner like a little girl and wishes it wasn't so damn far from release....*
this is white trash :elitist:
Quote from: GhostboyThat's the best damn poster I've seen in ages.
Definitely!
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that that's the best horror poster I've ever seen. If the movie is half as scary as that poster...
Summer in hell is pretty hot, I imagine.
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that poster would've benefited from this dude in a peek-a-boo.
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Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: themodernage02jeepers creepers is good!
And that's why you have the avatar rank you do.
can someone explain that to me?
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Quote from: themodernage02actually, and i HATED house of 1000 corpses. i thought it was a pile of badly written/acted/shot crap, like unbelievably bad.
Quote from: MacGuffinWell, I for one, liked the first one, and didn't think it was "unbelievably bad."
Quote from: MacGuffinThou shall not give any praise of any sort to Jeepers Creepers. God, what an awful piece of shit. On my list for the second worst horror movie behind Blair Witch 2. The characters and story were so stupid.
Quote from: themodernage02jeepers creepers is good!
Quote from: MacGuffinAnd that's why you have the avatar rank you do.
So NOT The Mac
no, sorry, i mean the rank, explain how that's distributed. a little off topic but i've been wondering that since dec 2003
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Quote from: socketlevelno, sorry, i mean the rank, explain how that's distributed. a little off topic but i've been wondering that since dec 2003
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Quote from: Pubricku get one when we decide u need one.
to get a new rank:
earn it properly through creating a natural identity which can grow and is not one dimensional.
so it doesn't mean that u are high ranking, or even liked. sumone can make a name for himself by being ignorant, being Denmark's Finest, or tasting like chicken.
as long as u are being genuine and sincere, and are willing to stick around (anywhere from 3 months to a year) to prove this identity, u'll get one. the ppl who hav problem with being genuine over-compensate with overposting sprees, thinking that quantity over quality is the way to go. this does NOT get u a custom rank. post count doesn't mean shit.
so u know, the general advice to all new members: be urself, don't try too hard, and soon u'll be part of xixax legend.
hook a brother up then. yo this shit's been with ya for 1.5 yrs and nothing. i'm as genuine as a mutha fucka and no post pimp. i've got the same amount of people in front as behind.
when it cuts it bleeds, and for god's sake i want to bleed! give me your best, or give me your worst, i can't take it.
no love? yo i can see that. no respect? possibly. maybe a little, or a lot who knows. deserving? you better fuckin' believe it.
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right now all ur eligible for is: topic detourer
sounds great
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It's better to be a fake someone than a real nobody.
there's the love! i feel the big xixax embrace, the digital group hug.
lol, imagine this was my last post ever. now that would be funny
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Quote from: socketlevelthere's the love! i feel the big xixax embrace, the digital group hug.
lol, imagine this was my last post ever. now that would be funny
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Is this your last post ever? :saywhat:
All he ever wanted was a custom rank...
no i was poking fun at myself.
hypothetically, if that was my last post, i went through all that for nothing (only to complain and feel wanted). to me that's funny. don't worry, i'm here to stay.
cue booing.
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New Trailer here. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/the_devils_rejects/trailer_2/)
The last shot of that trailer is great.
The rest...well, it still has potential. Not a lot happens in it. The image on the trailer page of the site is the best part.
Somehow, this has turned into probably the most potentially interesting summer release for me. It probably won't be very good, but I'm really curious about it.
Rob Zombie said on the messageboards that after the pre-screen it got the highest approval rating of any Lion's Gate Film released.
and critics have been saying the ending is one of the best in cinematic history.
I'm excited :onfire:
Quote from: BrazoliangeRob Zombie said on the messageboards that after the pre-screen it got the highest approval rating of any Lion's Gate Film released.
and critics have been saying the ending is one of the best in cinematic history.
which critics, and was the approval rating cos they recruited the pre-screening with his own fan club?
I really shouldn't admit that I'm really anticipating this...
I think the fact that 2005 is slow for good movies, this one seems to shine.
Although History of Violence is looking good...
Quote from: PubrickQuote from: BrazoliangeRob Zombie said on the messageboards that after the pre-screen it got the highest approval rating of any Lion's Gate Film released.
and critics have been saying the ending is one of the best in cinematic history.
which critics, and was the approval rating cos they recruited the pre-screening with his own fan club?
I can't find links to this right now (if I remember it was a sticky on the messageboards at http://www.d13satellite.com/devilsrejects/board/index.php?), and I don't have time to read through the 30 pages of threads right now. I'll try later, or take my word on it
that trailer really got me pumped. I have to see House of 1000 corpes now to see what I'm in for this summer.
Quote from: SiliasRubythat trailer really got me pumped. I have to see House of 1000 corpes now to see what I'm in for this summer.
i wouldn't do that if i were you.
Quote from: themodernage02Quote from: SiliasRubythat trailer really got me pumped. I have to see House of 1000 corpes now to see what I'm in for this summer.
i wouldn't do that if i were you.
Agreed.
Quote from: PubrickQuote from: BrazoliangeRob Zombie said on the messageboards that after the pre-screen it got the highest approval rating of any Lion's Gate Film released.
and critics have been saying the ending is one of the best in cinematic history.
which critics, and was the approval rating cos they recruited the pre-screening with his own fan club?
haha...true
i think the equation goes like this to elaborate on Pubrick's thoughts..
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[here are the 'critics' in their screening room] ..note the hi-def tv above them....
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then you get:
Quoteafter the pre-screen it got the highest approval rating of any Lion's Gate Film released.
and critics have been saying the ending is one of the best in cinematic history
good god, I didn't know this board had such a distaste for HO1KC
Quote from: Brazoliangegood god, I didn't know this board had such a distaste for HO1KC
well, now u know we have good taste.
so cruel and yet so hilarious. :bravo:
Quote from: Brazoliangegood god, I didn't know this board had such a distaste for HO1KC
You make it sound like a robot... and usually, scientists are proud of robots and people are amazed at the accomplishment.
Quote from: GhostboyQuote from: themodernage02Quote from: SiliasRubythat trailer really got me pumped. I have to see House of 1000 corpes now to see what I'm in for this summer.
i wouldn't do that if i were you.
Agreed.
That bad eh? I guess I won't see it then, House of 1000 corpses that is.
old trailer is MUCH better than the new, but that's pretty common
Comic-Con 2005: The Devil's Rejects Panel
Devilish? Yes. Rejected? No.
The Devil's Rejects, the sequel to Rob Zombie's House of 1000 Corpses, was supported in full force by several of the cast here at San Diego Comic-Con. Writer-director Zombie led and dominated the discussion, though also on hand were cast members, Sid Haig, Bill Moseley, Sheri Moon Zombie, Ken Foree, Leslie Easterbrook, Priscilla Barnes, William Forsythe, and Matthew McGrory.
The first nine minutes of the film were screened, kicking off the panel. Censored for language as it was, it was still clear what we were witnessing was a film heavily influenced by horror and crime films of the 70s, with all of the gunfire and mayhem one would expect from Zombie.
The majority of House's cast return, though a notable exception is Karen Black, who was replaced by Easterbrook. According to Zombie, a deal with Black couldn't be reached and the film was going to happen whether certain cast members returned or not. As Haig mentioned, they did this second film "because it was fun and because there were a lot of live bodies left."
Zombie's music does not appear on the soundtrack for the film because, as he said, the film "takes place in 1978 and I did not." Composing music for the film was handled by Tyler Bates, lately of the Dawn of the Dead remake.
On the subject of the difficulties they had in bringing this film to the screen versus House, Zombie praised Lions Gate for being hands off in their approach to letting him do his film. The primary issue they had, it seems, was with the MPAA: it took eight edits to bring the film down from an NC-17 to an R. For those who might wish an unrated "director's cut" to hit DVD at some point in the future, don't hold your breath. Zombie cites a lack of time and energy to go back and make the unused footage ready for being included, and also implied that whatever audiences picture in their minds as missing from the film is probably better than what was actually left out.
has anyone seen this yet? I'm staying out of town with relatives and haven't been able to yet :'(
it comes out this friday July 22.
Honestly I don't understand why there is so much hate for the first film? The film took pieces of great horror films and put them all into one with a tad bit of Cheese factor.
Don't trust any reviews from a man who has a picture of a crazy scientologist as his avatar.
His new corpse work
Director Rob Zombie’s got a new movie about to open, and he’ll be singing its praises this summer during Ozzfest.
Source: Los Angeles Times
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Rob Zombie would like you to know that although his upcoming movie, "The Devil's Rejects," shares several characters with his debut feature — they're members of a marauding family of serial killers from "House of 1000 Corpses" — it is not a sequel.
"By nature, sequels are terrible," says Zombie, former front man for the platinum-selling heavy-metal band White Zombie. "This one is sort of like the next chapter for these characters. And it's a much bigger, better film than the first, which is almost never the case."
Also important to note: Although the new movie depicts characters getting stabbed to death in a junkyard, includes several gruesome torture scenes and prominently features a grimy basement where body parts are stored in refrigerators, the director says it would be a mistake to construe "The Devil's Rejects" as a horror film.
"To me a horror movie is the last thing it is," he asserts. "There's a lot of terrible things that take place, and it's definitely violent and whatnot. But it's more like an Italian western like 'Once Upon a Time in the West.' Or 'Taxi Driver' — that really nasty '70s filmmaking that doesn't exist anymore."
Zombie has staked his professional reputation on upending conventional wisdom — such as the thinking that filmmakers can't be rock stars and vice versa. Beginning this month and through to September, he'll be traveling cross-country with Ozzy Osbourne's Ozzfest rock festival, performing on its second stage, just as he did before the release of "House" during Ozzfest 2003. He will proselytize about "The Devil's Rejects" directly from the concert stage and plans to play the movie's trailer during his sets. But Zombie stops short of admitting that he is doing Ozzfest only to push the film.
"It's a great promotional tool that you wouldn't ordinarily have," he says. "It's good for the movie because we're going to be in a different city every day. The same person that typically buys my records is the type of person who would go see movies like that. It's a perfect match."
His efforts paid off for "House." Though generally mauled by critics, the film has attained certified cult status among hard-core horror enthusiasts — it did a respectable $12 million in its theatrical run and has gone on to sell a million DVDs.
This time, Ozzfest is just one facet of the multi-pronged media assault the 40-year-old director, whose driver's license lists his name as "Robert Wolfgang Zombie," is launching to get out word about his film, which opens Friday.
In addition to music, he's using comic books (a "Devil's Rejects" graphic novel is being put out this summer), the radio (Zombie hosts a weekly show on L.A.'s Indie 103.1 FM) and a weblog (lionsgatedirectors.com/zombie), a Web diary on which he has been posting news about the movie since last year.
It's hard to imagine another indie-inclined filmmaker with the wherewithal to mount a similar push, and executives at Lions Gate Films, which is releasing "Rejects," are justifiably thrilled to have a director in their stable whose commercial instinct can feed his artistic impulses. By the end of "Corpses' " opening weekend, the studio had expressed willingness to put up the money for what became "Rejects."
"To have a filmmaker who can go out there on a weekly and daily basis and help market his movie, to help share the experience with a built-in fan base, gives us a competitive edge that a lot of other movies don't have," says John Hegeman, president of worldwide marketing. "He has an unbelievable relationship with his audience. It's a very close bond."
The director relies upon his inner fanboy as muse. "I try to make the thing I want to see or hear," Zombie says, reaching up to stroke his straggly beard and revealing a "Creature From the Black Lagoon" tattoo on his forearm. "It's the simple thing: It comes from being a fan. And it all goes together. People would ask, 'What do you want to be?' Well, I wanted to be Alice Cooper and Steven Spielberg and Stan Lee."
Zombie has become increasingly disenchanted with the medium that won him his financial security and greatest acclaim. "At this point, movies are far more important to me," he says somberly. "I've been doing music for 20 years. I feel like I've done everything I'm going to do. With movies, it's all new, all fresh."
Asked how he would feel if a young fan knew him only through his cinematic output and not for White Zombie's albums, such as "Astro-Creep: 2000" or his own "Hellbilly Deluxe" (Zombie went solo in 1995), the dreadlocked director replies with typical rock star aplomb: "That would be" — here he used a common heavy-metal curse word — "awesome!
"One of the reasons I didn't do anything remotely musical for the movie myself was I wanted to put that to rest. I just wanted to show that making a movie and directing is not some ego-driven thing I'm dabbling in. I take this totally seriously — this is something I want to do."
Hegeman points out that "Rejects" is as much a road movie/revenge caper/western/cop drama as it is a horror flick.
And he confirms Zombie's stated ambition. "I think this film establishes him as a filmmaker with a unique vision," Hegeman says. "It's sort of a crazy kaleidoscope of all of these different things that you may already have an association with."
In the meantime, Zombie's biggest battle will be overcoming people's built-in expectations. "It's hard to switch fields," he says. "People don't seem to like it when you do.
"But it's always that type of thing. Metal, rock music, horror, we're always treated like the dirty little secret. It's another day of no respect. It drives me crazy, but I'm used to it."
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Rob Zombie has followed up his horror hit House of 1000 Corpses with a much more brutal, ugly and sadistic film, The Devil's Rejects. Rejects keeps some of the characters such as Captain Spaulding [Sid Haig], Otis [Bill Moseley] and Baby [Sheri Moon] but now instead of them being hunters they are being stalked by Sheriff Wydell [William Forsythe] whose brother they had killed.
Daniel Robert Epstein: Were you such a fan of the Police Academy movies and Three’s Company that you had to cast Priscilla Barnes and Leslie Easterbrook?
Rob Zombie: Truthfully I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a Police Academy movie. I think I saw the first one, but I have watched Police Academy 6 since shooting this movie, unfortunately. With Three’s Company, what kid didn’t watch that show? But really it was funny because Priscilla Barnes and Leslie Easterbrook were two people I didn’t actively pursue, they came in and read for the part. If someone had said their names, I would’ve been like, “Oh yeah, she’s cool on Three’s Company.” But I never saw her do anything like this. There were people on set who I had worked with on other films and they were like, “Holy shit. I never knew she had this in her.” So those were just lucky auditions. They came in and they were amazing. Most of the other parts were filled with people I wanted for them or I wrote it for them.
DRE: Had you always planned on doing a sequel to House of 1000 Corpses?
RZ: Well yes and no. When I finished the first film, I wrote a one-line treatment for a sequel only because I was contracted for one. They were going to make a sequel with or without me. I didn’t want it to be without me, so I kind of had a little half-assed idea.
DRE: What did you learn from the experience of doing the first movie that you’ve brought into this one?
RZ: Everything. I mean the first movie is this calamity because you think you know what’s going to happen and you think you know how movies are made, but it’s complete insanity from day one. The biggest thing was learning that preproduction is god because once you get on set, the time moves so fast that it seems like when you walk on set the first day you’re already behind schedule. Then suddenly it’s lunch and everyone is lazy because they just ate lunch and then the sun goes down and you’re like, “Terrific. We accomplished nothing.” But on this film, preproduction was very intense. The other thing was making sure your key crew members are great. On the first film, I had one cinematographer who came in and I fired him after the first week because he was just not doing his job and we were falling behind schedule every day. Then the next guy came in, who was fine, but there was no vibe whatsoever. Then he couldn’t return for the reshoot, so we brought in another guy and we didn’t get along at all. We spent most of the time like fighting on set and that’s retarded. Literally the crew was in mutiny and walking around set like “I can’t work with this guy.” For this movie, I met with a lot of cinematographers and then came back to Phil Parmet, who I just could tell from his personality that he would do whatever I wanted.
DRE: What was it like directing your wife?
RZ: It’s really easy but you have to treat every single actor like they’re the most important person because that’s the way they probably think. The whole thing about directing is you have to find a special way to manipulate each actor to do exactly what you want; yet make them think they thought of it and that you didn’t do anything.
DRE: What makes you want to create such dark films?
RZ: I’ve always been a fan of darker films, whether it is A Clockwork Orange or Taxi Driver where the lines of who’s the good guy and the bad guy are always very blurry. You love Malcolm McDowell in A Clockwork Orange even though there’s no redeeming characteristic to him whatsoever, but he’s so charismatic. The same like De Niro in Taxi Driver, at the end of the movie you’re like, “Whoa have I been rooting for an avenging hero or a complete nutcase that’s going to open fire in the Post Office tomorrow?”
DRE: Do you feel like we are supposed to be rooting for these sick people?
RZ: No, I feel like you’re not supposed to know what you’re doing. I’ll talk to different people and they’ll go “I was crying when they died.” Then other people will be like, “I hated them. I was rooting for the sheriff the whole way.” Everyone’s got a totally different opinion, which is what I like.
DRE: How about you?
RZ: For me it goes both ways because I knew those characters were ending and I did like the characters and the actors. I’ve always been a big fan as a kid of reading about the Old West and the concept of vigilante justice and that was where the Sheriff Wydell character came from. I was never rooting for anybody.
DRE: Did you have alternative endings in mind?
RZ: No, that was always the ending and every actor had a complaint about that. I wanted to do it because it seems like nobody makes a movie anymore without a sequel set up. Lions Gate was like “The franchise. It’s gone.” But you know, that’s the problem. I feel like there’s never a definitive ending anymore. Every movie ends with the possibility of another one and it drives me crazy. I feel like, “Why did I just invest two hours? It didn’t even end.”
DRE: Did you have any problems licensing those southern rock tracks?
RZ: Yeah there were always problems, but what I did this time that’s very different and what people never ever do, is that I licensed all the songs in advance. I knew I was going to do that whole Freebird thing but I couldn’t possibly risk shooting it, being in editing and then Lynyrd Skynyrd goes “I don’t think so.” I cleared up all those problem in advance so I wouldn’t run into that.
DRE: Did you have various directorial homages in mind?
RZ: Yeah but there was no specific moments. There was certain key things like a lot of the extreme close-ups and things are very like Once Upon a Time in the West and the ending is like Bonnie & Clyde and the general vibe to the violence is very Peckinpah.
DRE: I read about a lot of cameos like Natasha Lyonne and Rosario Dawson and Mary Woronov that I didn’t notice in the actual film.
RZ: Well Natasha Lyonne never came to set and that became like a whole other thing. So she was replaced by E.G. Daily on the day of shooting and Rosario’s scene got cut unfortunately. Mary’s just in the credit sequence.
DRE: How did you come to cast Ginger Lynn?
RZ: I needed an older actress who was going to be very free with nudity. I never wanted to get young girls that are all like plastic surgery damaged because that would be horrendous. So someone was like, “Well, why don’t we try casting old porn stars?” We went through a bunch of different ones and Ginger was just the best actress even though unbeknownst to me, until two seconds before she got to the set, she was on crutches and couldn’t walk.
DRE: I saw you on Henry Rollins’ show the other night on IFC.
RZ: Henry is one of those people who goes, “I rooted for the sheriff the whole way.’
DRE: You mentioned something that was very interesting about how you feel a lot of the horror movies are watered down to PG-13.
RZ: That doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t want to make a G-rated movie for kids that’s totally super nice. But if this was PG-13 and then what we would be watching would be totally ridiculous. None of those decisions are made based on what’s best for the movie. It’s just what’s best for the marketing.
DRE: Did Lions Gate let you do whatever you wanted?
RZ: Lions Gate is great. They have to be the most artist friendly people I’ve ever met in my life. I gave them the script. They read it and were like, “Okay. Fine. Let’s do it. We have no changes.” They would come down to the set every once in awhile and go, “Okay we saw the dailies. We’re happy.” Then they’d disappear for a month. We did a preview screening in front of an audience. That went great and they were so happy afterwards.
DRE: Did you have any trouble getting the R rating?
RZ: Yeah, that was tough. The strange thing was that the R rating was mostly based on tone. It took about eight tries and it all came down to the motel scene with Bill Moseley and Priscilla Barnes. We cut about two minutes out of that. Still I was like, “Well there’s no real nudity. There’s no violence. There’s no language.” But they were like “Yeah, but it’s too dark.” Basically it was like telling me, “Your comedy is too funny.” It’ll be back on the DVD.
DRE: Do you see Devil’s Rejects as a grindhouse movie?
RZ: It’s kept the spirit of that. The funny thing is I was talking to someone else and they were like, “Are you a big fan of bad movies?” I went, “No, I’m a fan of good movies.” In that world there are a lot of great films. Russ Meyer’s films are better than 99 percent of the great films we have to celebrate every year. Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! is an incredible movie.
DRE: Do you think you can learn more from watching a bad movie than a good one?
RZ: No you really can only learn how to make a good movie from watching good movies. You can learn what not to do maybe.
DRE: Has doing this movie work affected your music at all?
RZ: Nothing really affects my music but what I took away from this is that great actors make great things happen. William Forsythe is a good example. If I had cast the wrong guy it wouldn’t work on any level. That’s where you make or break the movie.
DRE: What are you doing musically now?
RZ: I have a record more or less finished before I started shooting Rejects and I’m actually on tour right now. I played last night and Ozzfest starts on Friday so I’ll be doing that all summer and then I’ll come back to finish the record and then start another movie.
DRE: Will the next film be a horror film?
RZ: I’ve got two movies I’m working on simultaneously and neither are horror movies.
DRE: Isn’t one an animated movie?
RZ: Well, there’s an animated movie that I’ve been working on for about a year. That’s called The Haunted World of El Superbeasto and I’m doing that with Film Roman. It’s an adult animated comedy and it’s basically if Austin Powers was actually an over the hill alcoholic Mexican wrestler living in a world populated by people like the Munsters.
DRE: Is it going to look like your animated sequence in Beavis and Butt-Head Do America?
RZ: No, it’s very stylized. The look was to make it look like it’s a cocktail napkin from 1968. That style of illustration.
DRE: There was an article on CNN.com that pointed to House of 1000 Corpses as the film that started this new wave of horror. When I spoke to [Fangoria editor] Tony Timpone, he said, “Maybe not all horror, but at least Lions Gate horror.”
RZ: I think it’s really hard to judge the effects of something, but it is funny that the movie was dropped by Universal and now Universal is like the house of horror once again. It definitely kickstarted horror for Lions Gate because I know the movie they followed mine with was Cabin Fever and I talked to [Eli Roth] the director and he was like, “Oh man I thought my movie was dead in the water and then your movie came out and was like this huge hit so suddenly mine jumped up to be this priority project.” So it did do something. I don’t know what but you can never judge.
DRE: Gary Panter remembers you from Pee-Wee’s Playhouse.
RZ: That’s funny because when Paul Reubens first showed up, he had really long hair and a beard and he stepped off the elevator with Gary Panter and I think half the people thought Gary Panter was Pee-Wee because they’d go “Well, he’s certainly not the other guy.”
DRE: What do you think of all the horror remakes?
RZ: I’m not really a fan of them because I liked the movies the first time. No matter how good it is, it’s never as good as the original and I would like to see something new. It’s kind of boring to sit there and watch a movie where you know how it’s going to end. It’s kind of a bummer and with some of the original movies there was just something about the time they were made and the way they were made that works.
DRE: But you liked the Dawn of the Dead remake enough to hire [music composer] Tyler Bates.
RZ: I thought his music was great. It’s not that they’re bad movies. Maybe they’re better for a new wave of kids who haven’t seen the original. But I’d already seen the original Dawn of the Dead like a hundred times.
DRE: What if you got offered a horror remake with carte blanche?
RZ: I’ve gotten offers to do things and I always say no. Maybe if there was a certain movie where I felt like the original idea was great but the movie was bad, but I don’t understand remaking great films.
DRE: Do you ever think about stopping doing music and just working on movies instead?
RZ: Yeah because I definitely can’t do both. Doing both is impossible and I don’t want to have years between films.
DRE: What should fans expect from the tour this time?
RZ: Well the tour this time is very stripped down because Ozzfest is outside in a summer festival and there are like a million bands so there is no production. You can only take production so far where the best thing you can do is scale it all back to nothing and then that becomes interesting. Whenever I’ve seen huge acts, whether it be Alice Cooper or KISS, in a situation with nothing, it’s ten times more interesting.
DRE: Are there any comic books or books you’re reading lately?
RZ: No, I’m sort of burnt out on comic books right now. Steve Niles and I did Bigfoot together. We were starting another one called Giant Monster that was going to be like a twelve part series but I just said, “Steve, I don’t have time.”
DRE: Are you involved with that deal that Steve and Thomas Jane have with Lions Gate?
RZ: No, they asked me to be involved. We met a couple times to talk about it but since I’m so busy I knew I would be of no use to it whatsoever.
DRE: Do you mourn the state of rock and roll today?
RZ: I felt the music industry making this horrible shift maybe like five or six years ago when it started becoming like the movie industry in the sense that it became about the opening week with a record. All the best records took a year or two years before anyone would go “Oh? What’s this band? Guns N’ Roses? I wonder who they are.” But now if it doesn’t hit the first week, they’re like, “Oh. I told you that wouldn’t work.” That’s not the way music functions. That’s not really the way movies should function either. With Halloween, it was months before it caught on and every week it would grow and grow and grow until suddenly it was this phenomenon called Halloween. Also the labels have no artist development. The Ramones would never have a record deal. They’d get dropped after their first record, as would Cheap Trick and AC/DC and everybody. The Ramones stayed on a major label for 22 years and they never sold more than 150,000 records. Now a million records, a platinum record is considered a failure. Labels have nothing but mega artists and total failures and no artist development. They have a bunch of stuff we won’t be talking about in six months.
DRE: What are you listening to now?
RZ: I’ve been listening to a lot of Terry Reid during making of this movie and those have to be the great lost records of all time.
SCATTERED REVIEW. MINOR SPOILERS IF YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOVIE SINCE HO1KC CAME OUT.
i love this movie, i love rob zombie, i love lynyrd skynyrd. just, everybody go see this opening weekend. it's so much better than that piece of shit charlie and the chocolate factory ('i wanted to go for a darker and truer version of the story' my ass, FUCK THAT MOVIE! the original was so much fucking darker and truer to the source material. the new one hurt my head). devil's rejects is nothing like house of 1000 corpses (which i was also a big fan of) and i know a lot of you shied away from that one. maybe b/c there was too much pointless gore? if that was the case, kids walking out of the theater last night were saying there wasn't enough nudity and gore. things in this movie have more of a point than in the first - it's not just violence for violence's sake (but i don't know if i'd be able to back that point up at the moment). there is a scene reminiscent of one of my favorite scenes from wild at heart but zombie takes this scene just a little further, almost like, 'how far can these people go before you start disliking them?' there's no karen black, but leslie easterbrook of police academy fame is a welcome replacement (she's plays the part of a fucking nutcase well). also, i noticed in the end credits that pj soles was in the movie. who was she? one of ken foree's whores? one thing about this movie that i was unsure of was sheri moon. she was so funny and insane in the first movie, but devil's rejects is much more serious, and she's not really a serious actor, so we don't really get a lot of baby in this movie and what we do get is kind of lacking. but that's a small gripe. i'mm sure zombie as a director can and will do better things in the future, but he was obligated to do this movie first and it turned out great. i hope this movie does well at the b.o. b/c it has balls - more than any mainstream movie i've seen in a LONG time. basically, go see it. it's worth the $10, and not much is these days.
I hated the first one, as I've said several times already, but The Devi's Rejects is damn near perfect. That doesn't mean its enjoyable - its pretty consistently unpleasant - but its executed beautifully. One of the things I disliked about House was that the tone was just all over the map. Here, Zombie nails what he was going for pretty much from start to finish. It lives up to that amazing poster, that's for sure.
Sheri Moon can't act at all, though.
That was a disappointingly Sleuth review
Quote from: bonanzatazalso, i noticed in the end credits that pj soles was in the movie. who was she?
SPOILER
she's the woman that gets carjacked by captain spaulding if anybody was wondering. rock rock rock rock rock n roll high school!
Quote from: bonanzatazdevil's rejects is nothing like house of 1000 corpses (which i was also a big fan of) and i know a lot of you shied away from that one. maybe b/c there was too much pointless gore? if that was the case, kids walking out of the theater last night were saying there wasn't enough nudity and gore. things in this movie have more of a point than in the first - it's not just violence for violence's sake (but i don't know if i'd be able to back that point up at the moment).
There's not as much gore, but I thought the freeze-frames that lingered on the shots in the opening credits were much more frightening than anything that could be shown.
Zombie did something modern horror movies fail to do nowadays - make the villians, well, villianous. These characters just ooze seediness you can almost smell the grime from them. Then...
*SPOILERS*
...he pulls the rug out from under you and makes you sympathize with them.
The ending was a excellent blend of picture and music, beautifully executed; like a modern day display of Bonnie & Clyde's ending.
so should i see this or what?
yes, see it
it's very nasty, ugly and of course violent but it's also beautifully executed and gets the tone of those 1970's midnight mayhem movies just right. the build up and the ending is great with lots of humor and tension. it's very unpleasent throughout but if you can take it, it's ultimately rewarding.
The first and secnd movies are two completely DIFFERENT films.
Where as the first film could be considered a drive through film,
this one is actually
GASP
a film!
a really damn good film with awesome cinematography, editting and direction. Although the acting is god awful...
This movie could have been excellent if cut down by about half an hour.
Some scenes were really well done and some went on too long.
I didn't feel anything for any of the characters which isn't super important for this type of movie, but it would have helped with the dull parts.
It's still one of the better horror films to come out in the past few years.
SPOILER!
Rob Zombie loves to show off his wife's body (which I really didn't mind). But I also figured that when the sheriff was chocking her, he wasn't gonna let her die right there. And of course she was saved right in time.
END SPOILER
I actually thought the acting was really good by the actors, although Zombie's wife wasn't very convincing in some scenes. But she's got a good body so who cares. :lol:
Quote from: RegularKarateThis movie could have been excellent if cut down by about half an hour.
Some scenes were really well done and some went on too long.
I didn't feel anything for any of the characters which isn't super important for this type of movie, but it would have helped with the dull parts.
It's still one of the better horror films to come out in the past few years.
thanks for the invite, BROTHER!
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thanks for the invite, BROTHER!
Okay, I've had enough.
You know... I didn't mind the occasional angry PM at first. Telling me that I don't deserve my Lebowski avatar because I'm not a "real fan", but you've been bugging me for way too long, Señor Perm!
I get that you don't like me, but let's just keep it in PM, okay? We don't need to waste everyone's time with these stupid comments, egging me on. So for everyone else's sake, take it back to PM and just go back to posting album covers in public... everyone will like you better that way.
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thanks for the invite, BROTHER!
Okay, I've had enough.
You know... I didn't mind the occasional angry PM at first. Telling me that I don't deserve my Lebowski avatar because I'm not a "real fan", but you've been bugging me for way too long, Señor Perm!
I get that you don't like me, but let's just keep it in PM, okay? We don't need to waste everyone's time with these stupid comments, egging me on. So for everyone else's sake, take it back to PM and just go back to posting album covers in public... everyone will like you better that way.
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Okay, I've had enough.
You know... I didn't mind the occasional angry PM at first. Telling me that I don't deserve my Lebowski avatar because I'm not a "real fan", but you've been bugging me for way too long, Señor Perm!
I get that you don't like me, but let's just keep it in PM, okay? We don't need to waste everyone's time with these stupid comments, egging me on. So for everyone else's sake, take it back to PM and just go back to posting album covers in public... everyone will like you better that way.
Someone call the...
WAAAAAAHHHHHMMMMMbulence
I didn't like House of 1000 Corspes, but I thought this one was pretty cool. A lot better than HO1KC. It's also pretty different than House. It's like its own movie. It had a few lame parts, but it is a B-movie.
The ending was tight.
I liked it too. It was unabashedly grimy and sleazy and creepy and dark.
EDIT: The scene with the film critic was hilarious.
Zombie should focus on directing music videos. In this movie, I believe there were 3 times when the scene would play over a song and the direction and focus were there, along with great editing. The final scene being the best example. I LOVED his style in these scenes. However, my biggest gripe was the dialogue, he can't write for shit. He's got his good plot down but when people speak (and not just the killers) it comes out very stilted and unnatural. He needs help with that. Oh and that "comic" guy Brian Posehn was the worst offender. That long speech about mechanical bull riding that had nothing to do with the movie -- does he talk like that with his friends in real life? If so, is he mentally retarded? I know that inflection is his comedic schtick but in a movie, uhhh, it sucked bad.
But yes, a lot of the style really impressed me. That last scene was really cool. Zombie just needs help with his dialogue is all, the kills were all great and unnecessary nudity is welcome.
No need to shit-talk a genius like Posehn because you didn't like his dialogue.
I really liked some of the LINES in this movie.. they really worked, but overall, some of the dialogue WAS terribly akward. I just don't care as much with a grindhouse type film like this.
I would shit-talk his comedy but that would be in a different thread.
I'll be seeing this when I get back in town on Saturday
Quote from: stitchmark.It's also pretty different than House. It's like its own movie.
Quote from: Rob Zombie"By nature, sequels are terrible," says Zombie, former front man for the platinum-selling heavy-metal band White Zombie. "This one is sort of like the next chapter for these characters. And it's a much bigger, better film than the first, which is almost never the case."
http://davisdvd.com/news/news.html
Director Rob Zombie's The Devil's Rejects, an ode to the "take no prisoners" horror films of the 1970s, arrives on November 8th. Lions Gate Home Entertainment will release the film in separate R-rated and unrated editions, each featuring audio commentary by Zombie and actors Sheri Moon Zombie, Sid Haig and Bill Moseley. Other bonus materials will include deleted scenes, footage from "The Morris Green Show" and "Captain Spaulding's Monkey Fried Chicken" TV commercial (both seen in the film), Otis's "Home Movie," a "Captain Spaulding Christmas" spot, blooper reel and music videos. The unrated disc also will feature a feature-length making-of documentary detailing the film's production. Retail will be $28.99.
Just an update to let you know that we've confirmed that Lion's Gate's The Devil's Rejects: Unrated Edition indeed will be a two-disc set that will include a 150-minute making-of documentary. Be sure to check out a better look at the packaging in our large cover gallery.
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i saw this for free a couple days ago, it's just getting a theatrical release here. pointless.
yes this thread was worth resurrecting just for that.
so we see the chicks ass in a couple shots, how is that "ballsy"? everything that happens in this movie is cheap, the dialogue is atrocious, even for uneducated redneck murderers their lines are incredibly stupid. how can someone fail at writing for IDIOTS? yeah, this movie does that. not that it matters, dialogue wouldn't be such a big deal if any of the characters could shut the fuck up for a second. god, "shit fuck shit fuck shit fuck" oh yeah that REALLY builds... something, rob! i can't get over how bad it was.
ok so after a point i tried to just WATCH it, pretending there was no sound, but the story is ridiculous. without tension, without momentum, especially in the last half hour as RK said. why is everyone being so nice to this movie? it's a piece of shit, a waste of time, not good for gore, nudity, or any of the crap everyone claims this had "balls" to show. it fails as a cheap whore and it fails as real film.
there were sum funny parts in it, occasionally the overwritten stuff would sound kinda ok mainly cos of the sheriff's delivery or whatever. but mostly it was stupid. WOLF CREEK is a million times better than this. i had avoided horror remakes and films like this for a few years since i realised they had all gone to shit after scream, and now i remember why. if i had known this is what passes for good these days, i would've confidently proclaimed Wolf Creek to be the best movie of the gotdamn century.
i'm watching Nochnoi Dozor tomoro nite.. may it give me new and exciting memories to replace these dull and boring ones.
Quote from: modage on November 04, 2004, 10:21:13 PM
actually, and i HATED house of 1000 corpses. i thought it was a pile of badly written/acted/shot crap, like unbelievably bad. and when i heard sequel i though, oh god. but when i saw the trailer the other night i was actually thinking 'eh, ill probably rent this anyway'. i dont know why, i guess i'm just hopeful that maybe zombie can turn his obsession with horror movies into a decent maybe even good movie.
well, not yet. a huge improvement over corpses but still nowhere near a good movie. and i can't put my finger on like, 'if he just worked with better actors, or if he just got someone else to write the script off his story, or if he just...'. but no. none of those things alone is the problem. sometimes the dialogue he wrote sucks, sometimes good dialogue is being acted badly and sometimes even when no one is saying anything the movie is directed badly. so, i dont know what to tell him. i still want him to make a good movie and will probably still see what he does next, but hopefully he'll make something that might actually be scary.
Just saw this....not entertaining in the slightest....Life is too short to ever listen to Freebird...especially all the fucking way through...worst ending ever
i should've known. house of a thousand corpses was absoultely awful and i don't know why i expected this to be better, fuck you rob zombie for wasting my time
hahahaha...this film was fucking awful....i think p's review is dead on but i need to do my thing also...the dialog and acting was just soooooooooooooo fucking stupid...it pissed me off..and this is comming from a guy who watches saved by the bell religiously and it makes me appreciate the dialog/acting in that tv show...i thought this was suppose to be a hardcore film...but damn it was just lame as shit...i cant imagine anyone w/ more than three teeth and a healthy aversion to gram cracker thinking that this was watchable....if you actually liked this film..why? ..is it:
a) you think rob zombie is the "fucking man"
b) b/c you are White trash
c) you like watching a screenplay penned by a water head baby w/ downs syndrome
d) you think its HARDCOOOOOOOOOOORE!!!
i liked this movie because it made me laugh, i liked the extreme characterizations, i liked that it was ridiculously over the top, and having been a fan of the original, i liked the direction they went with these characters. most members of the board know that i've always been a fan of shit movies with violence and humor and i especially like it when it's done distastefully, throwing gratuitous sex in there just for fun. true, it's very derivative and it doesn't break any new ground, but i'll take it over the namby pamby, heartfelt, oh so sincere movies everybody here seems to love. i would never put it on a list of the best movies of all time, but for an hour and a half i was entertained. i went to the movie theater with my friends to see people scream and get cut up. i was not disappointed in the least.
Quote from: modage on November 16, 2005, 11:33:46 PMi still want him to make a good movie and will probably still see what he does next, but hopefully he'll make something that might actually be scary.
Giamatti to haunt Zombie's "Superbeasto"Paul Giamatti will headline the voice cast of "Rob Zombie Presents the Haunted World of El Superbeasto," playing Dr. Satan, the film's villain.
IDT Entertainment's 2-D animated comedy, based on the Spookshow International comic book "The Haunted World of El Superbeasto" created by the rocker-turned-filmmaker, follows the exploits of a washed-up Mexican wrestler, El Superbeasto, in the mythic world of Monsterland.
El Superbeasto will be voiced by Tom Papa, his sister Susie X will be voiced by Sheri Moon Zombie, Zombie's wife, and the robot Murray will be voiced by Brian Posehn. Paul Giamatti received an Oscar nomination this year for "Cinderella Man." Other credits include "Sideways" and "Private Parts."