Oscars Rocking with Rock
With Billy Crystal back in Oscar retirement, it's now up to Chris Rock to keep things lively on Hollywood's biggest night.
The wicked-tongued joke-slinger has been handed the reins for the 77th Academy Awards, slated for Feb. 27 at the Kodak Theater and airing live on ABC.
"I am a huge fan of Chris Rock," said veteran Oscar producer Gil Cates, who's back for his 12th go-round helming the kudocast. "He always makes me laugh and he always has something interesting to say. Chris represents the best of the new generation of comics. Having him host the Oscars is terrific. I can't wait."
Although this is Rock's first stint as Oscar host, he's no stranger to emceeing chores, having held down the mike for the MTV Video Music Awards in 1999 and 2003 and serving as one of several presenter/hosts for the 1998 Emmy Awards.
Still, Rock will have some big Nielsens to fill. Crystal, the Motion Picture Academy's go-to guy with eight hosting appearances, helped this year's Return of the King-dominated ceremony to score its best numbers in four years, averaging 43.5 million viewers for the whole telecast.
In recent years when Crystal wasn't at the helm and Whoopi Goldberg and Steve Martin filled in, ratings had dipped. ABC and the Academy are hoping the always-edgy Rock will keep the viewership high and attract a younger demo to the telecast.
Rock, currently shooting a remake of The Longest Yard with Adam Sandler, was not immediately available for comment Thursday.
Best known for his three-year run on Saturday Night Live and his work on HBO, including The Chris Rock Show and stand-up specials like Bring the Pain, Rock has won three Emmys and two Grammys for his funny business.
His screen credits date back to Beverly Hills Cop II and include turns in Head of State, Bad Company, Down to Earth, Nurse Betty and Dogma.
Aside from The Longest Yard, Rock recently finished voice work for the big-screen CGI 'toon Madagascar. Both films are due out in May 2005.
hmmm... i like chris rock but this is a big job. he seems more suited to the mtv awards then the academy awards but we'll see i guess....
Quote from: themodernage02hmmm... i like chris rock but this is a big job. he seems more suited to the mtv awards then the academy awards but we'll see i guess....
true... i was so surprised to see this... but i like it!
:shock: :)
I passed out for a few ours because I thought it was The Rock.
Quote from: themodernage02hmmm... i like chris rock but this is a big job. he seems more suited to the mtv awards then the academy awards but we'll see i guess....
No that just seems like its all he's good for. But I really hoped he would host the Oscars sooner than later. Good call, Oscar.
chris rock is good. this will be good. i hope he talks shit about all the shitty films that win "Garden state?! Garden state?! Boy, that movie was shitty just like new jersey!" haha I hope garden state wins.
if garden state gets a best picture nod thats a shame -- i thought black people werent allowed to host the white mans industry award show night -- i was told thats what BET was for -- not saying i agree, its just what a white guy told me on the train
Quote from: cowboykurtisif garden state gets a best picture nod thats a shame -- i thought black people werent allowed to host the white mans industry award show night -- i was told thats what BET was for -- not saying i agree, its just what a white guy told me on the train
*scratches head*
Hmph.
Well, I'm a big big fan of Chris Rock And This news made me estatic. Wow, man. This should be amazing.
But if he makes a joke about forgetting what Eternal Sunshine was about, I'll jump out the window of a tall, tall building.
Naked.
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So Am I only the one here who loves Chris Rock so much?
haha, that post was awesome. I was so happy in between epeleptic fits. It was like I had an extra chromosome and someone threw some skittles at me.
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A poster designed by a self-described computer geek has been chosen by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences as its 77th Annual Academy Awards commemorative poster.
Brett Davidson, a 10-year staff member of the Academy who works as an information systems support specialist in the IT department, was the winning designer, selected in a blind competition.
"I wanted a big, bold Oscar but a treatment we've never seen before," Davidson said Tuesday morning as he did color checks at Anderson Printing in Hollywood when the poster came off the presses. "I wanted something retro and '50s in its development but also to have a contemporary edge to it. The color palette is also pop-art inspired. The Academy has been slowly moving in that direction, so I wanted to take it to the next level."
Davidson, who studied film and design at the University of Miami as well as USC, has submitted designs in the past. He said he looked to pop artists Andy Warhol and Peter Maxx for inspiration as well as such classic Oscar poster designers as Saul Bass and Arnold Schwartzman.
"The Oscar is the granddaddy of all award shows, but it's not an old man," Davidson said of the poster's theme. "I want people to see that youthful energy. There's a lot of (other award shows) out there, and the Academy can and will compete with it."
Davidson said he has no plans to leave his day job.
Lumet Nets Honorary Oscar
All those dog day afternoons have paid off for Sidney Lumet.
The acclaimed filmmaker, whose résumé is stacked with such celluloid classics as Dog Day Afternoon, 12 Angry Men, Serpico, Network and The Verdict, has been tapped by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences to receive an honorary Academy Award at the Oscar ceremony in Feburary.
The 80-year-old director was selected to receive the hardware for "brilliant services to screenwriters, performers and the art of the motion picture."
According to Academy president Frank Pierson, Lumet's status as "one of the most important film directors in the history of American cinema" was what let to his selection.
"His work has left an indelible mark on both audiences and the history of film itself," Pierson said in a statement. "It was a great personal pleasure and professional honor to call Sidney to tell him he'd won his profession's highest honor."
Lumet has helmed more than 40 films, chalking up several Academy Award nominations but no wins.
The Philadelphia native got his show-biz start as an actor, making his stage debut at the ripe age of four. As an adult, he moved behind the camera and started directing in television. He then segued into feature films in 1957 with 12 Angry Men, which earned him a Best Director Oscar nod.
He received three other directing nominations for Dog Day Afternoon (1975), Network (1976) and The Verdict (1982) and picked up a Best Adapted Screenplay nod in for 1981's Prince of the City.
Lumet's credits also include Running on Empty, The Wiz, Equus, Murder on the Orient Express, Fail-Safe, The Pawnbroker and Long Day's Journey into Night.
Lumet will receive the trophy during the Feb. 27 Oscarcast airing live on ABC from the Kodak Theater in Los Angeles and hosted by Chris Rock. Nominations for the 77th annual Academy Awards will be announced Jan. 25.
Quote from: MacGuffinLumet Nets Honorary Oscar
That makes me happy, he definitely deserves it.
Agreed. :)
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FINDING NEVERLAND
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RAY
SIDEWAYS
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Leonardo DiCaprio - THE AVIATOR
Clint Eastwood - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
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Annette Bening - BEING JULIA
Catalina Sandino Moreno - MARIA FULL OF GRACE
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Kate Winslet - ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND
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Jamie Foxx is dominating! I'm kind of irked at the Winslet/Sunshine nod, I don't think it was deserved at all, she was really cheesy and not too good imo in that movie, well not her, but the actual character. Marty will win the best directing award.
thoughts:
I had a feeling Hotel Rwanda would get the nom over Ray, I was wrong.
I am a little surprised with Eastwood's actor nom.
I was hoping Delpy would get a best actress nom.
I also thought Gondry might get a Directing nom, i was wrong.
Disappointed about Collateral not getting a best cinematography nom.
Impressive 11 noms by The Aviator. It looks like it could be Marty's year but Million Dollar Baby is picking up steam.
I was really happy when Before Sunset was nominated for screenplay--however, I still don't understand why it's nominated for adapted.
i'm SHOCKED that kate winslet is up for eternal sunshine and not finding neverland. :bravo:
The big travesty is no Giamatti. That is all.
Life Aquatic not getting a nomination for art direction is pretty weak, but I guess I'm not surprised.
The problem with most award ceremonies is even if technical aspects of a film are great, it will get overlooked if it's not an amazing film with a lot of buzz, or if the technical aspects aren't incredibly apparent. This year, read: Life Aquatic and I Heart Huckabees.
Quote from: wantautopia?The big travesty is no Giamatti. That is all.
AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so! fucking! pissed! about this! I fucking hate this shit. They fill Giamatti's nomination with Clint Eastwood. Way to go Academy. The old safety.
How is Jamie Foxx supporting for Collateral? He's clearly the main fucking character. While he was good in that movie, an oscar nom? Please, let him have the Ray nom and that's it. I'm also pissed Collateral didn't get cinem. nomination.
I do feel good that Virginia Madsen got nominated for Sideways, that's awesome. Church is a good one too. Does Giamatti have to play a retard or impersonate a real person (oh wait he already did in American Splendor) to earn these people's affections? Christ. I'm mad.
I don't know if it was eligible, but if it was I am ecstatic: no nomination for Fahrenheit 9/11? That's awesome. It was a piece of shit. I didn't see Tupac: Resurrection...how did that get up there?
I wish the Aviator got a best visual effects nomination. Also, I love the Village score nomination.
Ok I'm done.
I thought Bardem would get a nod, instead they gave it to Clint, is he that good in his flim?
Also, all the talk about Giamatti's performance and was again snubbed.
This years noms = :yabbse-undecided:
I'm glad about Aviator though.
Quote from: wantautopia?The big travesty is no Giamatti. That is all.
Absolutely. Thats the main surprise for me. The rest is very predictable.
I like that Catalina Sandrino Moreno got a nomination.
And after just seeing Million Dollar Baby I understand Eastwood's Best Actor Nom too... he did great.
I retract my statement about the Village nom for best score....where in the fuck is the nom for THE INCREDIBLES???
How the hell is Jon Brion omitted from two potential catergories for two potential films!?
Apart from that its cool. Especially Alan Alda in the supporting nomination.
Is Motorcycle Diaries not eligible for foreign picture or something? I was kind of baffled by the BAFTA Best picture and best foreign picture nomination. Whats the deal?
Thoughts (after a year's worth of journal entries in one entry just about the noms):
-Fox supporting in Collateral is down-right rascist, but that's what the studio was shooting for... because they're rascist.
- The Villiage score was Phillip Glass wannabe shit... No Brion and No Incredibles... bunk.
- No Giamatti is the horsiest horse shit.
- What IS Before Sunset adapted from? Before Sunrise?
- Fahrenheit 911 didn't get nomed because Moore wanted it to be eligible for Best Picture... yeah, right.
-I'm glad Incredibles got something other than Animated. That's probably the happiest surprise. Though Best Picture would have been nice.
Let's start the momentum now: I want to see Morgan Freeman finally win an Oscar (much more than I want Scorsese to finally win) ... It would be, by far, the best feel-good moment of the night, and he's deserving for Million Dollar Baby.
GO, Easy Reader!!!!!!!!!
Of all people to get nominated twice it was... Jamie Foxx.
Wonderful.
i would have liked to see nicole kidman get a nod for Birth.
i really hope aviator burries million dollar baby.
clint eastwood acting nod is bullshit - paul g really got it up the ass on this one.
huckabees score was the best of the year -- brion deserves an oscar.
i hope very long engagement wins for cinematography.
also i think CLOSER got an all around shaft -- would have loved to see Mike Nichols get a nod
I definetly agree about Paul Giamatti..
..and Foxx for Collateral?
Bah.
What a weak year for award shows.
Quote from: RegularKarateThoughts (after a year's worth of journal entries in one entry just about the noms):
-Fox supporting in Collateral is down-right rascist, but that's what the studio was shooting for... because they're rascist.
- The Villiage score was Phillip Glass wannabe shit... No Brion and No Incredibles... bunk.
- No Giamatti is the horsiest horse shit.
- What IS Before Sunset adapted from? Before Sunrise?
- Fahrenheit 911 didn't get nomed because Moore wanted it to be eligible for Best Picture... yeah, right.
-I'm glad Incredibles got something other than Animated. That's probably the happiest surprise. Though Best Picture would have been nice.
Well said.
Quote from: matt35mmI was really happy when Before Sunset was nominated for screenplay--however, I still don't understand why it's nominated for adapted.
I've been trying to figure this out. Is it because it's based off the first one? That doesn't make sense, does it?
I'm sorta glad that I don't care who got nominated this year. It's my first year of really not feeling the need to follow the could have and should have's to anger and resentment at the academy. That being said, I liked seeing Incredibles nominated for best script.
Am I the only one wondering how Thomas Haden Church got nominated, and NOT Paul Giamatti?????
Quote from: ThrindleAm I the only one wondering how Thomas Haden Church got nominated, and NOT Paul Giamatti?????
I know! LOWELL, for heaven's sake, has been nominated for a freaking Oscar.
What's next? Antonio Scarpacci getting his own TV show?
Quote from: ThrindleAm I the only one wondering how Thomas Haden Church got nominated, and NOT Paul Giamatti?????
not really......
Quote from: wantautopia?The big travesty is no Giamatti. That is all.
Quote from: Gamblor not so gone.I'm so! fucking! pissed! about this! I fucking hate this shit. They fill Giamatti's nomination with Clint Eastwood. Way to go Academy. The old safety.
Quote from: RegularKarateNo Giamatti is the horsiest horse shit.
Quote from: cowboykurtispaul g really got it up the ass on this one.
Quote from: MyxomatosisI definetly agree about Paul Giamatti
Quote from: matt35mmI was really happy when Before Sunset was nominated for screenplay--however, I still don't understand why it's nominated for adapted.
This is because Before Sunset is Based On Characters created by Richard Linklater and Kim Krizan.
Quote from: Gamblor not so gone.I don't know if it was eligible, but if it was I am ecstatic: no nomination for Fahrenheit 9/11?
Moore himself pulled it from the Best Documentary consideration to pursue a Best Picture nod.
Quote from: ®edlumIs Motorcycle Diaries not eligible for foreign picture or something? I was kind of baffled by the BAFTA Best picture and best foreign picture nomination. Whats the deal?
In the case of the BAFTA's, it's nominated for Best Film Not In The English Language, just to clarify the difference. As for the Oscars, it wasn't considered a Foreign Film since it debuted here in the States at Sundance. It was eligible for all other catagories, which is how it snagged Best Song and Best Adapted Screenplay.
I recall that credit--that Before Sunset is based on characters created by Krizan and Linklater, but is that an academy rule that all sequels are automatically adapted from the first movie? Because the rule is "previously published material," but it seems odd to call a sequel an adaptation when it's continuing an original script.
Can anyone else recall a sequel that was nominated for best screenplay that was NOT based on a book or characters from a book?
i was hoping Knock Yourself Out would get a nod,
but then again,
i have yet to see I Heart Huckabees,
so i don't know how it was used in the film.
i hope Kaufman wins.
Quote from: brocklyQuote from: ThrindleAm I the only one wondering how Thomas Haden Church got nominated, and NOT Paul Giamatti?????
not really......
Quote from: wantautopia?The big travesty is no Giamatti. That is all.
Quote from: Gamblor not so gone.I'm so! fucking! pissed! about this! I fucking hate this shit. They fill Giamatti's nomination with Clint Eastwood. Way to go Academy. The old safety.
Quote from: RegularKarateNo Giamatti is the horsiest horse shit.
Quote from: cowboykurtispaul g really got it up the ass on this one.
Quote from: MyxomatosisI definetly agree about Paul Giamatti
CANCEL ALL ACADEMY AWARDS
It is comforting that I am not the only one to feel that way. As soon as I read the nominees this morning, I felt the absence of Paul Giamatti. My first impulse was to question this in a big way...enter xixax.com, the place to bitch about movies.
Thomas Haden Church was good, yes, but how could he be nominated before Giamatti?
Quote from: nineteenseventysevenIt is comforting that I am not the only one to feel that way. As soon as I read the nominees this morning, I felt the absence of Paul Giamatti. My first impulse was to question this in a big way...enter xixax.com, the place to bitch about movies.
Thomas Haden Church was good, yes, but how could he be nominated before Giamatti?
Well, they are in different categories.
Is anyone getting extremely annoyed by the constant championing by pundits who know nothing about film, yelling and whining because The Passion of the Christ was not nominated for Best Picture? They need to realize most money doesn't = best movie. I guess I'll just have to put a hammer through my television.
Quote from: Reformed WeirdoIs anyone getting extremely annoyed by the constant championing by pundits who know nothing about film, yelling and whining because The Passion of the Christ was not nominated for Best Picture? They need to realize most money doesn't = best movie.
They also need to realize: February release date ≠ best picture nod.
The Passion did get (what I think is) a deserved nomination for score and cinematography, so it wasn't completely forgotten. But so much of a film's nomination chances depend on its release date. I doubt
Ray would be nominated for Best Picture if it was released in July or August.
Quote from: Reformed WeirdoI guess I'll just have to put a hammer through my television.
You should have done that a long time ago!
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI'm sorta glad that I don't care who got nominated this year. It's my first year of really not feeling the need to follow the could have and should have's to anger and resentment at the academy.
I'm in the same boat. I took the whole thing way too seriously in the past.
Quote from: Reformed WeirdoThey need to realize most money doesn't = best movie.
Make sure the Academy knows that too, otherwise Shrek 2 is going to win for Best animated feature.
Quote from: life_boyQuote from: The Gold TrumpetI'm sorta glad that I don't care who got nominated this year. It's my first year of really not feeling the need to follow the could have and should have's to anger and resentment at the academy.
I'm in the same boat. I took the whole thing way too seriously in the past.
Me too. Even the surprises are predictable now. I saw Mike Leigh getting Director and Screenplay nominations a mile away. But to their credit, I don't think anyone saw the Giamatti snub coming.
But I think I'm out of it because I haven't seen most of the nominated films yet. I liked The Aviator but I haven't had a chance to see any of the other Best Picture nominees. I was initially excited to see Sideways but now I'm afraid I waited too long and that it won't live up to the hype. Jamie Foxx impressed me in the trailer for Ray but I missed that one (I'll be renting it next week), my girlfriend has been practically scratching my eyeballs out to see Finding Neverland so I'll see that out soon, I'm sure. And though I like Eastwood, I can't say that I would ever have had any desire to see Million Dollar Baby outside of every critic saying it was the best thing since Sideways. That "Girlie, tough ain't enough" line in the ads makes me cringe every time. If it's really that damn good, then someone needs to run the people who did the trailer out of the business.
:-D
cate, kate, charlie k., jaime times 2, marty, leo
incredibles for writing! (what about editing though? i know it's up for sound editing (whatever the hell that is) but i would imagine editing these animated suckers is quite the challenge)
sideways
:shock: / :elitist:
phantom of the god damn opera for best cinematog (what about collateral and hero, to name a couple)
finding neverland and ray for best picture
blah nominations for score and best song (the latter being the most ridiculous category, IMO)
Quote from: hacksparrowI can't say that I would ever have had any desire to see Million Dollar Baby outside of every critic saying it was the best thing since Sideways. That "Girlie, tough ain't enough" line in the ads makes me cringe every time.
Same here. The trailer made me sick, and if the movie is really like that, I will continue to have the desire to avoid it like the plague.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanSame here. The trailer made me sick, and if the movie is really like that, I will continue to have the desire to avoid it like the plague.
your loss, JB.. if you aren't moved by this film, i'd seriously question if you were chemically imbalanced.
Just to say this out loud:
I pray that Marty doesn't get best director. Because he's much too good to get lumped into this shit-eating Academy Award nonsense. Woody Allen sorta got by on a loophole by not appearing for his, but still... Marty deserves to be in the Kubrick/Welles/Hitchcock/Altman category.
Quote from: SoNowThenJust to say this out loud:
I pray that Marty doesn't get best director. Because he's much too good to get lumped into this shit-eating Academy Award nonsense. Woody Allen sorta got by on a loophole by not appearing for his, but still... Marty deserves to be in the Kubrick/Welles/Hitchcock/Altman category.
Marty wants it, though
Quote from: SleuthQuote from: SoNowThenJust to say this out loud:
I pray that Marty doesn't get best director. Because he's much too good to get lumped into this shit-eating Academy Award nonsense. Woody Allen sorta got by on a loophole by not appearing for his, but still... Marty deserves to be in the Kubrick/Welles/Hitchcock/Altman category.
Marty wants it, though
It doesn't even really mean the same thing as it did when Kubrick, Hitch, Welles and Altman got snubbed... if it ever did mean something, so just give it to him already. I liked The Aviator but I think he's got another Goodfellas/Raging Bull/Last Temptation-quality masterpiece still in him that his quest for Oscar is kind of holding him back from making.
Quote from: cinephileQuote from: Jeremy BlackmanSame here. The trailer made me sick, and if the movie is really like that, I will continue to have the desire to avoid it like the plague.
your loss, JB.. if you aren't moved by this film, i'd seriously question if you were chemically imbalanced.
what did you think of mystic river?
Quote from: life_boyThey also need to realize: February release date ≠ best picture nod. The Passion did get (what I think is) a deserved nomination for score and cinematography, so it wasn't completely forgotten. But so much of a film's nomination chances depend on its release date. I doubt Ray would be nominated for Best Picture if it was released in July or August.
That's not so true nowadays. Academy members receive DVD screeners to remind them of films for consideration.
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: life_boyThey also need to realize: February release date ≠ best picture nod. The Passion did get (what I think is) a deserved nomination for score and cinematography, so it wasn't completely forgotten. But so much of a film's nomination chances depend on its release date. I doubt Ray would be nominated for Best Picture if it was released in July or August.
That's not so true nowadays. Academy members receive DVD screeners to remind them of films for consideration.
You wouldn't know it from looking at the list of nominees!
I know about screeners, but there's still power in the newness of the buzz. When was the last time an early year release really racked up with Oscar nominations?
Erin Brockovich (2000)? October is late enough to clinch it for some films. It may not be science, but it makes sense to me when I look at the facts.
Quote from: life_boyYou wouldn't know it from looking at the list of nominees!
I know about screeners, but there's still power in the newness of the buzz. When was the last time an early year release really racked up with Oscar nominations? Erin Brockovich (2000)? October is late enough to clinch it for some films. It may not be science, but it makes sense to me when I look at the facts.
Then look at the fact that studios don't typically release "Oscar" films in the early quarters of the year. It conflicts with the Oscar awards going on currently, and Summer films are not typical Oscar fare, hence Ray not being released in July or August. But if they do, in the case of say an American Beauty (a September release), it's not forgotten come awards season because of press and screeners to remind them. Silence Of The Lambs was not looking for Oscar consideration when it was released in Feb. 1990. That was because that release date of Valentine's played into the novel. I'm not saying that good buzz doesn't help, it does because it's great advertising, adds to the box office and it's fresh in the voters' minds, I'm saying that if a film gets a release early in the year, it won't be forgotten come awards season because the films are availible to Academy members. Do you really think voters went to the handful of theaters playing Vera Drake? Same idea. Studios send out a screener to make their film readily available and to keep their film in mind.
Who knows why Passion/Christ didn't rack up more nominations. It could be they avoided a controversial film. Could be they didn't like it (as Brando said, Hollywood is Jewish). Could be backlash. Could be voters thought Gibson was too good to bother advertising in the trades. But it wasn't because it was forgotten.
i think the only reason it isnt up for more is that gibson refused to campaign. had he just played the game like everyone else it could be up for a lot more.
Quote from: themodernage02i think the only reason it isnt up for more is that gibson refused to campaign. had he just played the game like everyone else it could be up for a lot more.
Maybe Gibson had a hard time navigating through his piles of cash and unopened condoms.
Quote from: SHAFTRQuote from: themodernage02i think the only reason it isnt up for more is that gibson refused to campaign. had he just played the game like everyone else it could be up for a lot more.
Maybe Gibson had a hard time navigating through his piles of cash and unopened condoms.
along with his dad's Nazi banners.
Quote from: UncleJoeyQuote from: SHAFTRQuote from: themodernage02i think the only reason it isnt up for more is that gibson refused to campaign. had he just played the game like everyone else it could be up for a lot more.
Maybe Gibson had a hard time navigating through his piles of cash and unopened condoms.
along with his dad's Nazi banners.
you win
Unfortunatelly up to some point he is the one that won... A lot of power, money, independence from Major Studios... but at least he is not getting an Oscar and I hope he doesnt get one for any of those nominations.
am i the only one to notice the complete exclusion of Garden State?
:saywhat:
Quote from: ProgWRXam i the only one to notice the complete exclusion of Garden State?
:saywhat:
what do you feel it could have been nominated for?
Best Kiss, duh!
Best Original Music!
No.. wait..
Best Score!
Err.. nevermind..
Best Overrated Film
best dog humping
dont get me wrong, im not a die hard fan of the movie, i just found it surprising that with all the positive buzz the movie had for such a long time it didnt even garner a single nom...
It should be nominated for best first half of a movie, and then nominated for another award somewhere for worst second half of a movie.
Oscar Protest To Hail Bush-Baiting Stars
Anti-George W. Bush celebrities will be targeted on Oscar night by right wing campaigners who want to "thank" them for publicly blasting the US President - because it helped him gain a second term in office. Citizens United are planning to fill billboards around the Kodak Theater in Los Angeles with giant ads praising the Hollywood actors who were vocal in their disapproval of Republican Bush in the run-up to last November's presidential elections. Whoopi Goldberg, Ben Affleck, Michael Moore, Chevy Chase, Martin Sheen, Barbra Streisand, and Sean Penn are among the stars Citizens United credit with raising Bush's profile - and inadvertently helping him to victory over Democrat rival John Kerry - by bashing him in the media, reports gossip website The Scoop. Citizens United President David Bossie says, "We're taking on Hollywood. We've done it in the past."
You know, that is just enough to piss liberals off enough to make the difference. Assholes.
And they took on Hollywood before???! WTF?! McCarthyism is nothing to be proud of.
New Rules at Oscars: Not All Winners Take the Stage
The long walk down the Oscar aisle will be a lot shorter for some of this year's Academy Awards winners -- in fact, some will not make it to the stage.
Oscars telecast producer Gil Cates told the annual luncheon of nominees on Monday that he had major changes planned for the awards, including not inviting the victors in some categories to the stage.
Instead, Cates said they will receive their awards from a presenter parked in the audience. In other cases, all the nominees in a single category will be invited up on stage and the winner then announced.
And, finally, some nominees will get their Oscars the old-fashioned way, walking down the aisle to the stage after the envelope is opened and the name announced.
Cates said the changes for the 77th annual Academy Awards, to be broadcast on Feb. 27, were aimed both at saving time and making sure that every nominee is seen by a worldwide television audience estimated in the hundred of millions.
Many treasured Oscar moments have involved the trek to the stage, as when Italy's Roberto Benigni was named best actor in 1998 for "Life is Beautiful" and made an elaborate display of climbing over seats and people to get to the stage.
Cates, who this year, as in years past, made an impassioned plea for Oscar winners to keep their acceptance speeches short, said the main reason for the change was to "get more of the nominees seen on television."
that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard...besides that cookie deal in the teen fights off bear thread.
the idea came a year late.
i have the impression that everybody will hate this and they will be back to normal next year... why fix it if it aint broken? the Oscars are like they always have been and if you dont like them you dont watch them. period!
Everybody excited for the "Chris Rock gets to host the Oscars while offending half the audience and not get invited back" show? I know I'm looking forward to it! Seriously though. Love the Rock..
chris rock hasn't offended anyone in a loooong time. remember the MTV music awards? he's like an insult comic now. everyone is like "ooh oh oh, do me do me!"
Quote from: andykthe Oscars are like they always have been and if you dont like them you dont watch them. period!
they have changed quite a lot over the years.
Oscar Producer Dismisses Rock Comments
The producer of the Oscars said Monday he was not concerned by comments from comedian and first-time host Chris Rock that belittled the event.
"Chris' comments over the past few weeks are meant to be humorous digs at a show that some people, obviously including Chris himself, think may be a bit too stuffy," producer Gil Cates said in a statement released by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Rock called the notion of giving awards for art "idiotic" and said he has never cared for the Academy Awards, which he likened to a "fashion show." He said the only time he watched was when black actors were nominated.
"What straight black man sits there and watches the Oscars? Show me one," Rock was quoted as saying in the magazine's Feb. 4 issue.
Cates, who is producing the Feb. 27 event, said he was not worried by those and other remarks. His statement followed a story posted Sunday on the Drudge Report Web site, which cited unnamed sources and reported that "academy members have privately called for Chris Rock to be removed as host, fearing Rock may 'tarnish' the reputation of the academy."
Cates rejected that claim.
"The academy has heard no grumbling from its members and has no intention of even suggesting that Chris step aside," he said.
Rock's publicist did not return a call Monday from The Associated Press.
Would anyone be able to video the oscars and send me a tape? I'm in the UK and I don't have Sky, so otherwise I won't be able to watch it. PM me if anyone can help out - thanks!!
Quote from: SleeplessWould anyone be able to video the oscars and send me a tape? I'm in the UK and I don't have Sky, so otherwise I won't be able to watch it. PM me if anyone can help out - thanks!!
they don't show it on free-to-air tv?
Nope, they BBC had the rights to it for the past 3 years, but now Sky have it, which I don't have. Which sucks. As if living in a student house wasn't bad enough...
Chris Rock Clarifies Oscars' Comment
Chris Rock wants to clarify what he meant when he said straight men don't watch the Oscars. "I did not say that. I said only gay people watch the Tonys," he joked Monday during an appearance on "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno."
But later he stuck to his guns. "I really don't know any straight men who aren't in show business that have ever watched the Oscars," he said.
The Emmy-winning comedian has taken some heat for an Entertainment Weekly interview in which he called the notion of giving awards for art "idiotic" and added: "what straight black man sits there and watches the Oscars?"
But he offered Leno some toned-down criticism of Oscar hype.
"The awards don't really affect anybody's lives in the crowd," Rock said. "Meanwhile, the Nobel Peace Prize, there's no one there. Nobody cares what the scientists are wearing. What are you wearing Professor Allen? 'Pants!'"
Rock, asked if he was rooting for anyone to win, said he would favor Don Cheadle, who is up for best actor for his role in "Hotel Rwanda."
"I like it if the award will affect the person's life," Rock said. "If he wins, he's gonna get better scripts, he's gonna work with better directors."
And he had some advice for acceptance speeches.
"Don't thank God," Rock said. "God's busy working on the tsunami, so leave him alone."
i've never really been a C Rock fan, but he has some good points there.
Quick question. Do they give out on tv the award for best editing?
Quote from: Dtm115300Quick question. Do they give out on tv the award for best editing?
They give out every award on TV.
Quote from: Dtm115300Quick question. Do they give out on tv the award for best editing?
Yes.
..as far as every award goes..
Some of them are given out earlier in the day from what I understand. They're not on national TV. For example, the technology awards and stuff like that is usually presented by one person and not part of the larger ceremony. That about right Mac?
Quote from: Myxomatosis..as far as every award goes..
Some of them are given out earlier in the day from what I understand. They're not on national TV. For example, the technology awards and stuff like that is usually presented by one person and not part of the larger ceremony. That about right Mac?
I meant in terms of nominated catagories (see page 2). Those are all televised. The tech awards, which were handed out already, are given to advances in the industry in forms of camera, visual, etc. techniques, as below:
Makers of Cranes, Illusions Take Home First OscarsPASADENA, Calif. (Reuters) - Actress Scarlett Johansson handed out the first Oscar statuettes of the 77th Annual Academy Awards to movie engineers on Saturday while gamely slogging though complex descriptions of inventions she admitted she did not quite comprehend.
Among those honored were the man who created "bluescreen" technology that allowed actors to be placed in locations they were nowhere near, and engineers who made camera cranes more mobile and improved wide-screen cinematography.
The Academy also honored the inventors of 11 other devices, including lights, audio systems, special effects makeup and animation software.
From the start of the black-tie gala in Pasadena, California, Johansson warned attendees about the perils of the jargon-laden script she was reading from a TelePrompTer.
"You need to stay alert in the first part of the evening or you'll be lost forever," she said. "The words are coming out of my mouth but I'm just not processing them."
"All you really need to know is it makes it sound better," Steven Boze later told her as he accepted an award for creating a device that removes unwanted noise from soundtracks.
The audience of mostly engineers and mathematicians seemed to startle Johansson at one point, by applauding during her lengthy description of motion-capture technology used in films like "Polar Express" and "I, Robot" to mimic human movements.
"Wow. It's a real crowd pleaser," she said.
UP AND COMING
Johansson, 20, won widespread notice for her breakout role in 2003's "Lost in Translation." She is one of a number of younger actresses the Academy has tapped in recent years to host the technical Oscars, including Jennifer Garner, Kate Hudson and Charlize Theron.
The night's big winners were the men who designed and built the Louma Camera Crane and Technocrane systems, which put cameras in places where their operators could not easily go, and helped capture complex action sequences.
Horst Burbulla developed the Technocrane telescoping crane and introduced it to Steven Spielberg, who first used it in the 1981 action-adventure film "Raiders of the Lost Ark."
The team of Jean-Marie Lavalou, Alain Masseron and David Samuelson developed the Louma Camera Crane system in 1978 to replace heavy and slow-moving fixed-length cranes that were used on movie sets to capture high-angle shots.
The Academy gave the Gordon E. Sawyer Award to Panavision engineer Takuo Miyagishima, who, in his nearly 50-year career, invented a series of camera lenses, including one that enhanced the cinematography of wide-screen formats.
Former Eastman Kodak engineer Arthur Widmer was honored for a lifetime of cinematic achievements, including his invention of "bluescreen" compositing technology that first combined actors on soundstages with pre-filmed backgrounds.
One of the first films to use the technique was "The Old Man and the Sea" starring Spencer Tracy in 1958.
Watched a pretty great show about stuntmen tonight on Dateline. I never knew that the Oscars don't have an award for stuntmen or stunt coordinators. These guys take an aweful lot of risks to make what we see on the big screen believable. With all of the accolades that different people receive for the filmmaking process (this year somebody won an award for Silicone material in makeup), I wonder why the Academy doesn't recognize what seems like an obvious award to give out. Heck, even if they gave out a "Stunt Coordinator of the Year" award, that would be something.
Only thing I can think of..
They used the Aviator as an example. What if the stunt double for Decaprio won an award? Would that somehow diminish Decaprio's work?
Quote from: MyxomatosisI never knew that the Oscars don't have an award for stuntmen or stunt coordinators.
really? they've been not giving that award for 76 years..
Quote from: CinephileQuote from: MyxomatosisI never knew that the Oscars don't have an award for stuntmen or stunt coordinators.
really? they've been not giving that award for 76 years..
Yeah..
I was really shocked to be honest. I thought maybe there was some kind of award they won apart from national televsion. You know how they have the short moments before a commercial where it says, "Earlier tonight, awards were given out for ___"
I expected all along that some kind of recognition was given to stunt people.
List of those scheduled to appear:
Presenters
Drew Barrymore
Annette Bening
Halle Berry
Cate Blanchett
Orlando Bloom
Pierce Brosnan
Sean Combs
Penelope Cruz
Leonardo DiCaprio
Kirsten Dunst
Jake Gyllenhaal
Salma Hayek
Dustin Hoffman
Jeremy Irons
Samuel L. Jackson
Scarlett Johansson
Laura Linney
Mike Myers
Al Pacino
Gwyneth Paltrow
Sean Penn
Natalie Portman
Prince
Tim Robbins
Emmy Rossum
Adam Sandler
Martin Scorsese
Barbra Streisand
Charlize Theron
John Travolta
Robin Williams
Kate Winslet
Renée Zellweger
Ziyi Zhang
Performers
Antonio Banderas
Beyoncé
Counting Crows
Josh Groban
Carlos Santana
Robin Williams should be good for some laughs..
With the exception of Santana, shitty performers.. Ugh..
Quote from: MacGuffinList of those scheduled to appear:
Prince
Hmmm. Why? I mean, nothing against him, but why is he presenting an oscar?
Edit: Unless he's introducing Ray.
Quote from: A Matter Of ChanceQuote from: MacGuffinList of those scheduled to appear:
Prince
Hmmm. Why? I mean, nothing against him, but why is he presenting an oscar?
Edit: Unless he's introducing Ray.
OHHHHH, I'm so excited. Prince was a star in 3 movies (one of which won an Academy award), he's an actor. Either way, it's a shame he's not performing.
ABC EXECS FORCE ROBIN WILLAMS TO CUT OSCAR SKIT
Sat Feb 26 2005 19:21:18 ET
A growing chill is in the air over Hollywood Saturday night after ABC executives forced Robin Williams to drop a comic song from the Oscars show!
Williams, the presenter of the Academy Award for best animated feature, decided last week that his one minute on stage would be a prime time to lampoon a conservative critic James C. Dobson, whose group Focus on the Family last month criticized the cartoon character SpongeBob SquarePants for appearing in a video about tolerance that the group called "pro-homosexual."
NEW YORK TIMES reporters Dave Halbfinger and Sharon Waxman are developing a story for late Sunday editions, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE.
Williams had hoped to joke using lisping character:
"Pinocchio's had his nose done! Sleeping Beauty is popping pills!
"The Three Little Pigs ain't kosher! Betty Boop works Beverly Hills!"
"Fred Flintstone is dyslexic, Jessica Rabbit is really a man, Olive Oyl is really anorexic, and Casper is in the Ku Klux Klan!"
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Officials from ABC's broadcast standards and practices office were not pleased.
Williams explains: "For a while you get mad, then you get over it. They're afraid of saying Olive Oyl is anorexic. It tells you about the state of humor."
why are those artists appearing?
did they even have songs featured in any films?
how about Jon Brion?
BEST PICTURE
Want: SIDEWAYS / THE AVIATOR
Think: MILLION DOLLAR BABY
ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE
Want: Clint Eastwood - MILLION DOLLAR BABY / Leonardo DiCaprio - THE AVIATOR
Think: Jamie Foxx - RAY
ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Want: Thomas Haden Church - SIDEWAYS
Think: Morgan Freeman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE
Want: Kate Winslet - ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND
Think: Hilary Swank - MILLION DOLLAR BABY
ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Want: Virginia Madsen - SIDEWAYS / Natalie Portman - CLOSER
Think: Cate Blanchett - THE AVIATOR
DIRECTING
Want: THE AVIATOR / SIDEWAYS
Think: MILLION DOLLAR BABY
WRITING (ADAPTED SCREENPLAY)
Want: SIDEWAYS
Think: MILLION DOLLAR BABY
WRITING (ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY)
Want: ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND / THE INCREDIBLES
Think: ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND
CINEMATOGRAPHY
Want: THE AVIATOR
Think: THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
ANIMATED FEATURE FILM
Want: THE INCREDIBLES
Think: THE INCREDIBLES
I don't want Portman to win best supporting cause the last few years supporting winner has gone on to make crap.
Quote from: StefenI don't want Portman to win best supporting cause the last few years supporting winner has gone on to make crap.
that wouldn't be a threat cuz she's already made two (or three) crappy movies.
Quote from: mogwaiQuote from: StefenI don't want Portman to win best supporting cause the last few years supporting winner has gone on to make crap.
that wouldn't be a threat cuz she's already made two (or three) crappy movies.
True, but those were crappy in the sense that they could have been good, potential wise.
okay, fair enough. :yabbse-grin:
expect surprises, shocks, INTRIGUE
god if only they could stop using the major categories as HONORARY awards. it would be easier to predict.. and less boring.
ie.
picture - aviator instead of MDB
director - scorsese instead of eastwood
actor - dicaprio instead of foxx
well at least u can expect brad bird to get best supporting actor or sumshit in 20 years time.
Chris Rock's monologue was wonderful.
Though I have a feeling the final shout out to the troops "fighting for freedom" was not his idea.
Damn, this years show is completely niggafied. Awesome.
YUCK
I never thought I would dislike Cate Blanchett this much.
Aviator is dominating. Martins gonna get his director award. w00t.
Hooray for Morgan and Brad Bird...
JB, what was wrong with Blanchet?
Is it just me, or is there a serious lack of starpower this year? Where is everyone?
Quote from: StefenAviator is dominating. Martins gonna get his director award. w00t.
you keep telling yourself that..
Quote from: RecceIs it just me, or is there a serious lack of starpower this year? Where is everyone?
they're making King Kong.
Seriously, they keep making fun of people and they can't even cut to them. They're like 'umm, Dustin Hoffman did a movie with Jack Nicholson once, let's cut to him'. The hell!
Quote from: RegularKarateJB, what was wrong with Blanchet?
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i want Depp's suit and that thing on his neck. and the glasses...and hair and mustache. but especially the suit.
Fashion Faux Pas #1:
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dude the show is actually really good this year. speeches are short and sweet (sydney lumet and morgan freeman in particular were wonderful). rock's monologue was hysterical. brad bird, cate, thelma, spidey, aviator cleaning up, rightfully so.
and i'm liking how they're changing it up (accepting awards in the crowd and whathaveyou). although, i'm not sure how i feel about having some of the nominees stand onstage as the award is being announced.
thus far tho, :yabbse-thumbup: .
the death trap clip was great.
Quote from: RegularKarateJB, what was wrong with Blanchet?
Quote from: Jeremy Blackmanhttp://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=205&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=266
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First nomination for surreal moment of the night: Antonio Banderas rhythmically slapping his thighs.
am i drunk or does marty tear up a lot? i swear everytime a person mentions his name in a thank-you speech he starts to cry.
Quote from: ©bradam i drunk or does marty tear up a lot? i swear everytime a person mentions his name in a thank-you speech he starts to cry.
Was that tearing up? I couldn't place what expression that was. If it was tearing up, I love Marty even more.
Chris Rock has the best damn introductions: "Opera's favorite white man, John Travolta", "Comedy legend, Jeremy Irons", "Dazzling with his acting and annoying us with his politics, Tim Robbins" those are great.
Quote from: ©bradam i drunk or does marty tear up a lot? i swear everytime a person mentions his name in a thank-you speech he starts to cry.
you're right. and by the way, i agree with your previous synopsis.
Lamest act of not getting a joke: Sean Penn letting everyone know who Jude Law is.
edit: and Swank wins it and lames it up with "I'm just a girl from a trailer park who had a dream."
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanFirst nomination for surreal moment of the night: Antonio Banderas rhythmically slapping his thighs.
second nomination: that guy sining his acceptence speech then the cut to antonio with that look in his eye.
that chick from maria full of grace is gorgeoussssssssssssssssss
That chick? She has a name, man. Great Scott are you crass.
charlie kaufman! woohoo. :-D
he didn't say potato heehhe cool
Best Motion Picture of the Year
Winner: Million Dollar Baby
Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role
Winner: Jamie Foxx for Ray
Best Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role
Winner: Hilary Swank for Million Dollar Baby
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role
Winner: Morgan Freeman for Million Dollar Baby
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role
Winner: Cate Blanchett for The Aviator
Best Achievement in Directing
Winner: Clint Eastwood for Million Dollar Baby
Best Writing, Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen
Winner: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Charlie Kaufman, Michel Gondry, Pierre Bismuth
Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published
Winner: Sideways - Alexander Payne, Jim Taylor
Best Achievement in Cinematography
Winner: The Aviator - Robert Richardson
Best Achievement in Editing
Winner: The Aviator - Thelma Schoonmaker
Best Achievement in Art Direction
Winner: The Aviator - Dante Ferretti, Francesca LoSchiavo
Best Achievement in Costume Design
Winner: The Aviator - Sandy Powell
Best Achievement in Music Written for Motion Pictures, Original Score
Winner: Finding Neverland - Jan A.P. Kaczmarek
Best Achievement in Music Written for Motion Pictures, Original Song
Winner: Diarios de motocicleta - Jorge Drexler("Al Otro Lado Del Río")
Best Achievement in Makeup
Winner: Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events - Valli O'Reilly, Bill Corso
Best Achievement in Sound
Winner: Ray - Greg Orloff, Bob Beemer, Steve Cantamessa, Scott Millan
Best Achievement in Sound Editing
Winner: The Incredibles - Michael Silvers, Randy Thom
Best Achievement in Visual Effects
Winner: Spider-Man 2 - John Dykstra, Scott Stokdyk, Anthony LaMolinara, John Frazier
Best Animated Feature Film of the Year
Winner: The Incredibles - Brad Bird
Best Foreign Language Film of the Year
Winner: Mar adentro - Alejandro Amenábar (Spain)
Best Documentary, Features
Winner: Born Into Brothels: Calcutta's Red Light Kids - Zana Briski, Ross Kauffman
Best Documentary, Short Subjects
Winner: Mighty Times: The Children's March - Robert Hudson, Robert Houston
Best Short Film, Animated
Winner: Ryan - Chris Landreth
Best Short Film, Live Action
Winner: Wasp - Andrea Arnold
best i've seen in my 23 years. period.
surprised that marty and aviator got shit-canned in the end, but hell, maybe clint and million babe are the better picks. still torn about that one.
t'was an excellent show, tho.
Moarty was robbed! Clint had Swank, Freeman and himself. he shouldnt win shit. But mdb was fantastic, but damn, Marty deserved it, Avitator was alot harder to direct than mdb.
The Aviator is a film that obviously benefits from the way that Scorcese chose to tell the story. Without his stylistic touches and ways of handling preformances, the film could have been much more safe and uninteresting.
Million Dollar Baby, while fantastic, is more about the story that is told and not about the way that it's told.
Pretty dissapointing stuff... I haven't been this dissapointed since Titanic won 12 Oscars :roll:. I am actually pretty fumed off that Finding Neverland won anything at all :evil:. But by my estimation here are the names who I felt deserved thier awards:
Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role
Winner: Jamie Foxx for Ray
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role
Winner: Cate Blanchett for The Aviator
Best Writing, Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen
Winner: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Charlie Kaufman, Michel Gondry, Pierre Bismuth
Best Achievement in Cinematography
Winner: The Aviator - Robert Richardson
Best Animated Feature Film of the Year
Winner: The Incredibles - Brad Bird
yeah, the oscars are worthless. what a disappointing show.
i wish next year mtv and ampas get together and form the ultimate award ever. are there any cool awards nowadays aside from the ones they hand out in res magazine?
K, guys, I know I sound paranoid, but I was freaked out all night. Seriously, no one was there, adn they kept popping these huge stars from the back who were not in the audience. Where the hell were they keeping them? And why? Where was Jim Carrey and Jude Law and Tom Hanks and Spielberg and Coppola and Nicolas Cage and Brad Pitt and the Clooney guy, Catherine Zeta Jones and Douglas. Seriously, am I the only one? Something was going on.
Also, I can't believe Scorcese got nothing. How can Scorcese not have an oscar by now. HOW!!!
for charlie kaufman to have an oscar seems incredibly bizarre. like, he is the 'outsider' and he has just been accepted by the establishment. very very weird.
beyonce doing 3 songs = awful.
cutting to jayz a million times = ditto
p diddy presenting = yep.
i realize chris rock is hosting and everything, which he did a decent job but the shows efforts to 'hip' itself up were pretty lame. isnt beyonce at enough awards shows? weird how rock talked about f 9/11 and passion during the monologue and not.... any of the movies nominated in any major catagories. but i guess thats the joke.
Quote from: themodernage02its likely that MDB will sweep the oscars for major categories. i'm guessing best picture, director, actress and maybe adapted screenplay. but these awards have always been the anti-oscars.
so ono, you got your wish here. poor marty and poor aviator, if MDB hadnt snuck out at the last minute from outta nowhere it probably would've won everything.
And why did Beyonce do 3 songs? Its like the singers all backed out at ther last second and they came up to her before the show and were like 'K, you gotta do three songs, the first one is in french...GO!!!'
oh f-off all five of you. the show was great.
Quote from: Pedro the AlpacaMillion Dollar Baby, while fantastic, is more about the story that is told and not about the way that it's told.
Disagree completely. MDB wouldn't have been nearly as masterful had it not been told by a director with such a smooth, clear vision, not to mention the subtle stylistic touches that made the film so gripping in the beginning and moving in the end.
Quote from: planet_jakeBut by my estimation here are the names who I felt deserved thier awards...
You obviously havn't seen Million Dollar Baby.
And yeah, I did get my wish. It was sweet, but I didn't get to see it live. I was busy shooting a film. How ironic
al. Sucks that Thomas Haden Church didn't get the win. Freeman wasn't that great in MDB. He was good, but he didn't really prove, there, he could act. Glad to see that Sideways got
something. Now to watch the Oscars using the fast-forward button. Ah, technology.
I did see the beginning, the monologue, before I had to leave, and Christ Rock was pretty great.
I thought the show was fine. The main odd thing that stuck out to me was the choice of The Star Trek Theme and the Terminator theme as the main themes of the Oscars.
I don't think I won the Oscar Pool I was in, though. I got 17/24. Damn.
Quote from: themodernage02weird how rock talked about f 9/11 and passion during the monologue and not.... any of the movies nominated in any major catagories. but i guess thats the joke.
not really. the two most controversial films of the year = good material.
Quote from: ©bradoh f-off all five of you. the show was great.
it was good, or atleast good-ish. but what was great about it? the opening is really the only chance the host has to do anything and i'm so used to billy crystals opening where he inserts himself into the movies and then sings about them later that other hosts just telling a handful of jokes just doesnt seem to do it for me. some very very cool things won, (brad bird, charlie kaufman, alexander payne, etc.) but what was great about the show?
what the hell were those loud sounds that kept banging off in the distance?
Quote from: ewardwhat the hell were those loud sounds that kept banging off in the distance?
The stage hands breaking down or putting up the props and sets.
they were a bit noisy this year.
When does everyone vote for the final awards, anyway? It seems like this Million Dollar Baby thing was just a result of perfect timing.
I haven't been this cynical about the Oscars since Gladiator's year. Wasn't last year a little better?
And yes, Kaufman's win is mysteriously depressing.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanWhen does everyone vote for the final awards, anyway?
February 2, 2005: Final ballots mailed.
February 22, 2005: Final polls close 5 p.m. PST.
YEAH, THELMA!!!
what exactly is laced in the weed y'all are smoking? this year is the first year i've watched this bitch of an award show and thought "wow, it's over already." i thought it was very well done, save a couple musical performances and penelope cruz and her "sounds good" line.
charlie kaufman winning is a good thing.
Here's the thing about Eternal Sunshine. Kaufman is a great writer. We all know that. However, both Being John Malkovich and Adaptation. suffered greatly in the third act. Still, people embraced them, especially outside the mainstream. Now, when he's finally gotten things so right, it seems like the day would never come when his particular genius was recognized. But it did, and so where does he have to go from here? He can always write something else. He can work on perfecting his characters even more (some would argue Clementine was underwritten -- I'm not one of them). But either way you look at it, it's almost as if certain people relish their directors or writers not getting recognized for their talents by the Academy. Kind of silly, but whatever floats your boat.
There was nothing fishy about this year. In pretty much all the categories, the best thing won. Jamie Foxx for Ray was expected, though a bit off. No need to get cynical or skeptical because your favorite film or actor didn't win.
Quote from: ©bradcharlie kaufman winning is a good thing.
is it? i mean, like i said, i want him to win because i think he deserves it. but doesnt "from academy award winning writer Charlie Kaufman" sound a little weird to you? like, he is someone who couldnt even get one of his scripts produced until 5 years ago and then became somewhat of a cult figure but when the cult is accepted by the mainstream it puts that person in a very odd position. he's no longer anybodys secret or the underdog or the outsider, he is accepted and awarded and thats just bizarre to me. its good when it happens, and hopefully the academy will become more and more in line with whats actually happening in movies but seems just...... :saywhat:
I don't need to quote my post.
...do I?
(borrowing Guff's work)
Best Motion Picture of the Year
Winner: Million Dollar Baby
Predictable... I was pretty sure this was going to win since the most deserving film was nominated in the popular "yes, we see you" spot that almost never wins and that Marty is cursed.
Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role
Winner: Jamie Foxx for Ray
Boo... a really shitty movie with a performance that's just mimicry. He should be mad at the studio for being racist enough to tag him with "supporting" for Collateral and not accepted the oscar (that didn't really belong to him all that much)
Best Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role
Winner: Hilary Swank for Million Dollar Baby
psch... the most obvious of them all.
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role
Winner: Morgan Freeman for Million Dollar Baby
While it's not his best performance, it's about damn time he got an Oscar.
Best Achievement in Directing
Winner: Clint Eastwood for Million Dollar Baby
I can deal with this, but Marty really should have gotten it... Clint's already got one for a film that's four times as good as this.
Best Writing, Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen
Winner: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Charlie Kaufman, Michel Gondry, Pierre Bismuth
This is a good thing. People here are just upset because thier beloved Kaufman is mainstream enough to win an Oscar. Get over it, he deserves one.
Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published
Winner: Sideways - Alexander Payne, Jim Taylor
That was a relief
Best Animated Feature Film of the Year
Winner: The Incredibles - Brad Bird
I knew it would win, but I was still a little nervous. Brad Bird can have my first born if he wants it.
Overall, it was a decent show. Much better than the last couple of years.
The Beyonce thing wasn't an attempt to "hip up" the Oscars. This sort of thing happens... one year they had Celine Dion sing all the songs.
Quote from: themodernage02Quote from: ©bradcharlie kaufman winning is a good thing.
is it? i mean, like i said, i want him to win because i think he deserves it. but doesnt "from academy award winning writer Charlie Kaufman" sound a little weird to you? like, he is someone who couldnt even get one of his scripts produced until 5 years ago and then became somewhat of a cult figure but when the cult is accepted by the mainstream it puts that person in a very odd position. he's no longer anybodys secret or the underdog or the outsider, he is accepted and awarded and thats just bizarre to me. its good when it happens, and hopefully the academy will become more and more in line with whats actually happening in movies but seems just...... :saywhat:
no no no.
this is what pisses me off- film geeks/buffs/nerds/whatever the nomenclature, bitch about
everything. we all love eternal sunshine and kaufman. we voted for it/him in our own prestigous xixax awards. if he'd lost the oscar we'd bitch. he won tonight and we still bitch. wtf does it take to make u ppl happy.?!?.
Quote from: themodernage02Quote from: ©bradcharlie kaufman winning is a good thing.
is it?
The only reason I can think of it being bad is that now everyone's going to talk shit about him because he's not cool to like anymore now that he's "legit".
But "Academy Award winning writer Charlie Kaufman" sounds just fine.
It's "Academy Award winning actor Jamie Foxx" that I can't quite get my head around. (https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvaldefierro.com%2Filc44g.jpg&hash=5088cfa191041d54a93cb6a7c666fbff8101f014)
Quote from: ©bradwtf does it take to make u ppl happy.?!?.
Not the Oscars, I guess.
well, i think its just for the most part we assume the academy is so out of touch with whats actually the best, when their votes accidentally collide with ours, its a bit of a shock. btw, the xixax awards had 3 in common with the oscars this year, (cate blanchett, hilary swank and charlie kaufman). i'm glad kaufman won, because i thought he deserved it, i'm just saying...
Quote from: ono mo cuishleHere's the thing about Eternal Sunshine. Kaufman is a great writer. We all know that. However, both Being John Malkovich and Adaptation. suffered greatly in the third act. Still, people embraced them, especially outside the mainstream.
the genius is that it becomes Donald's movie --but that can be discussed further in the Adaptation thread (that new forum needs some attention as it is).
Surprises
- I was a little shocked that the Aviator didn't win Best Picture after Eastwood took director. Although I said shortly after Million Dollar Baby was released that it was and still is the best picture of the year.
- Didn't like Morgan Freeman for supporting actor. Thomas Haden Church deserved that award.
Cool
- Clint Eastwood's humility and for many more years of his great films
- Chris Rock is great. We need more of his biting comedy to offset Crystal's safe, audience friendly humor.
- I loved the Chris Rock theater interviews with black America vs. white America. Too funny..
Lame
- Swank's rags to riches speech
- House of Flying Daggers deserved Best Foreign Film but they didn't submit the film in time.
- I'm glad that Jamie Foxx won for Best Actor, but it was incredibly predictable.
- Cutting to reactions from Dustin Hoffman about a million times.
- Where was Jack Nicholson's crazy evil smile for America?
- What the fuck was up with Beyonce doing 3 performances? They couldn't get anybody more talented?
Thoughts
- Ever notice that the screenplay winners are always artsy fartsy films with a huge draw for film fanatics but usually bring in average/poor the box office receipts? These categories are for the auteur in American cinema.
- I haven't seen Finding Neverland but it's now the next thing I'll go out and see this week.
ok with 2LB's "maybe i just hate date movies" and JB's "maybe i dont like katherine hepburn".. i will now pose the new moral around here:
YES, IT'S JUST YOU!
Quote from: Cinephileok with 2LB's "maybe i just hate date movies" and JB's "maybe i dont like katherine hepburn".. i will now pose the new moral around here:
YES, IT'S JUST YOU!
Oh, damn. I thought I was being too grouchy and deleted the post. But I do hate date movies.
2LB
Quote from: StefenDamn, this years show is completely niggafied. Awesome.
Chris Rock's interviews at the Magic Johnson theater explained why Diary Of A Mad Black Woman was #1 at the BO with $22.7 million.
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: StefenDamn, this years show is completely niggafied. Awesome.
Chris Rock's interviews at the Magic Johnson theater explained why Diary Of A Mad Black Woman was #1 at the BO with $22.7 million.
God, no kidding.
However, we're all a target market, aren't we?
boy theres more black people in the world than i thought
The only thing I cared about is that for the main categories, all my predictions but one were accurate. I liked Million Dollar Baby maybe the least of anyone, but I'm happy it won. Any other film winning wouldn't have changed a thing. Eastwood is still respectable in my eyes.
What I can't understand is all the complaining; for the Oscars and Xixax awards. The way these results can lead people to feeling justified their film is great because it won or that everyone who voted is dumb because theirs did not. Responces like these seem to draw out even worst responces when someone feels like they have to "correct" what they said, to put it nicely. It becomes a game of who can just out draw the other in slamming opinions. Discussion's just fucking null.
yeah, here at xixax people are voting their favourites... so why was their bitching cause people were voting for what they liked best? thats how the cookie crumbles, guys.
at the oscars, the voters typically vote and honour what might be deserved.. case in point, sofia coppola won for best writing.. she could've won a lot more but the academy felt they had to award her with SOMETHING.. thats what happened tonight with payne too. and the oscars have ALWAYS been this way so a lot of people are complaining like this is the first year they've awarded films and actors like this. nothings a surprise this year.
Quote from: themodernage02for charlie kaufman to have an oscar seems incredibly bizarre. like, he is the 'outsider' and he has just been accepted by the establishment. very very weird.
But, he won for writing... Doesn't that not count as it stands as the one award the Academy gives to more critically accepted films? But, hey, now that he has it, he definitely can't just put it up on a mantle. He has to do something weird. His main influence may be the late rebel Bing Crosby who used the Oscar he won for "Going My Way" as a door stop.
"mogwai puts an end to hilary swank's 'rags to riches' career"
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I hate Clint Eastwood.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI liked Million Dollar Baby maybe the least of anyone, but I'm happy it won. Any other film winning wouldn't have changed a thing. Eastwood is still respectable in my eyes.
GT: you officially make no sense at all. Considering your bashing of MDB (pre and post-viewing) in its thread, how could you even type those words?
Has anybody got a copy of the ceremony of video I could buy of you? PM me please if you can help!! Thanks!!
i have to admit, i pumped my fist when Charlie Kaufman won.
now maybe they'll give him and Spike Jonze more money to make the most effed up horror film ever.
i would have been satisfied if Scorsese won. i haven't even seen the Aviator or MDB, but i was watching a Robert Redford bio yesterday and saw that Redford won for his first directed film over Marty. i'm guessing Raging Bull was Marty's entry (someone correct me if i'm wrong).
I'm starting to think Marty will NEVER get an Oscar. They must hate the man. Maybe they'll give him a lifetime achievement award as he gets older. But I was very happy with Million Dollar Baby winning for best picture and best actress.
Quote from: Small Town LonerI'm starting to think Marty will NEVER get an Oscar. They must hate the man. Maybe they'll give him a lifetime achievement award as he gets older.
They'll give him the lifetime achievement Oscar, but he'll die the day before.
hmm, i wonder why charlie kaufman is in such a bad mood? (http://www.oscars.com/oscarnight/winners/win_34486.html) press room interview, windows media only.
Quote from: mogwaihmm, i wonder why charlie kaufman is in such a bad mood? (http://www.oscars.com/oscarnight/winners/win_34486.html)
the awkwardness of the setting, the stupidity of the question, the fakeness of the whole thing.
Quote from: NEON MERCURYthat chick from maria full of grace is gorgeoussssssssssssssssss
hell yeah that chick is stunning. amazing. next time i see her i will try to remember her name, until then she will be known as Maria Full of Hot.
Quote from: planet_jakeTitanic won 12 Oscars
uh, that never happened.
Quote from: ono mo cuishleFreeman wasn't that great in MDB. He was good, but he didn't really prove, there, he could act.
maybe he wanted to fit into the unimpressive style of the movie. a feature u praised in the previous sentence.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanI haven't been this cynical about the Oscars since Gladiator's year. Wasn't last year a little better?
haha absolutely not.
boring actor award forgotten a year later:
last year: theron
this year: foxx
and in every other category Jackson's overhaul of awards was replaced with a lackluster PITY ceremony. they are both equally ilegitimate. unless ur incomprehensible hatred for blanchett makes u think zelwegger-no-eyes was more deserving for the same award last year.
Quote from: themodernage02is it? ... he's no longer anybodys secret or the underdog or the outsider, he is accepted and awarded and thats just bizarre to me. :saywhat:
that depends.. do u think OutKast hav gotten better/worse since they became universally accepted?
the correct answer is: OutKast are brilliant no matter who listens to them.
Quote from: RegularKarate(borrowing Guff's work)
Predictable...
Boo...
psch... the most obvious of them all.
i agree. maybe this is connected to recce's question, the real big stars are just waiting for their pity-years to come before they make an appearance. and as usual it's always the less popular awards which ring true emotionally, brad bird, the short film categories, foreign film (awesome).
the awards hav steadily gone to shit since shakespeare in love, with fluctuations occurring now and then depending on what category u want to pay attention to. least reliable (and most predictable) has become the acting awards.. crowe, robberts, washington, paltrow, theron, foxx, berry, kidman all hav wrongly won in recent years.
cool
-the next four presenters: "penelope cruz and salma hayek", haha, at least two of them were good (the latter).
-maria full of HOT
lame
-sean penn making an ass out of himself
-too many black jokes
-oprah throwing her fist in the air while Foxx gave his speech was hilarious
-marty getting his hopes crushed. sickening.
overall, fuck a quarter of tonite's show.. which in fact was better than it has been in years, and that's not saying much.
Quote from: Pubrickhell yeah that chick is stunning. amazing. next time i see her i will try to remember her name, until then she will be known as Maria Full of Hot.
Her name is Catalina Sandino Moreno and last night, my nickname for her was Maria Please Sit On My Face.
Between her and Aishwarya Rai from Bride and Prejudice, I might have to go back to church.
Wow, that Charlie Kaufman interview....man what a stupid fucking question.
Quote from: Gamblor Ain'tWorthADollarWow, that Charlie Kaufman interview....man what a stupid fucking question.
i couldn't hear the question, what did she/he say?
Quote from: mogwaiQuote from: Gamblor Ain'tWorthADollarWow, that Charlie Kaufman interview....man what a stupid fucking question.
i couldn't hear the question, what did she/he say?
Something like: "The difference between the screenplay and the finished movie was so drastic...blah, blah....would you want to have credit as the editor?" I swear to god, it was that dumb. It made no fucking sense, like some housewife who had never seen a movie made up the question.
Also, did someone watch the Payne/Taylor backstage video? He mentions two Italian movies, one is Big Deal on Madonna Street, and I forgot the other one. Help a guy out.
I love how the press went "Huh" when Payne said moribund, I think the press are dumber than the academy.
Quote from: Gamblor Ain'tWorthADollarAlso, did someone watch the Payne/Taylor backstage video? He mentions two Italian movies, one is Big Deal on Madonna Street, and I forgot the other one. Help a guy out.
i haven't seen any of the videos but from what i've read, i'm going to guess The Easy Life.
Quote from: Weak2ndActQuote from: The Gold TrumpetI liked Million Dollar Baby maybe the least of anyone, but I'm happy it won. Any other film winning wouldn't have changed a thing. Eastwood is still respectable in my eyes.
GT: you officially make no sense at all. Considering your bashing of MDB (pre and post-viewing) in its thread, how could you even type those words?
Because Eastwood's gratitude seemed sincere.
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I didn't see him do this last night but I remember saying, after whatever joke Chris Rock made about him, that Tim Robbins was going to come out and say, "Go fuck yourself, Chris. The nominees for Best Supporting Actress are..."
I wasn't far off.
Second-Class Treatment for Some Oscar Winners?
Producer Gil Cates' attempt to streamline Oscar tradition -- by having some nominees march out onstage before the winner was announced and asking other nominees to accept their awards from roving presenters in the audience -- met with mixed approval Sunday.
While host Chris Rock joked, "Next year, they're going to give out Oscars in the parking lot. There will be a drive-through Oscar lane," others, particularly those in the crafts area, were not amused.
Observed Visual Effects Society president Eric Roth, "It clearly looked like a second-class procedure for giving out certain awards. It would have been, I think, more acceptable if they had chosen awards from all different types of categories including quote A-List unquote categories like best actor or actress or director to receive their awards onstage."
Motion Picture Sound Editors president David Bondelevitch appeared to give Cates the benefit of the doubt. "He has my sympathy," he said. "However, when you only do this type of presentation for some awards, and you only do it for the awards that are considered "technical" categories, you're pretty much segregating them and that marginalizing their contributions. If they did it with an acting award, I would have had no problem with it. It seemed odd that some of the people didn't even go onstage (instead they were given awards in their seats)."
He added, "I did appreciate Chris Rock's comment that next year they'll be giving drive-through awards -- it marginalizes those categories, and the Oscars are about recognizing the art and craft that these people have contributed to the movie."
On the other hand, at least one Oscar winner, Valli O'Reilly, who was honored for the makeup for "Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events," said of receiving her award in the middle of the auditorium: "It was actually easier. I was wondering if we won how I would go to the stage (in this dress and shoes). I'm a flip-flop kind of girl."
But fellow "Snicket" makeup artist Bill Corso said of the nominees who were led onstage like a "Chorus Line" lineup: "It looked like a beauty pageant. Sometimes, the old-fashioned way is the best."
Quote from: CinephileQuote from: Gamblor Ain'tWorthADollarAlso, did someone watch the Payne/Taylor backstage video? He mentions two Italian movies, one is Big Deal on Madonna Street, and I forgot the other one. Help a guy out.
i haven't seen any of the videos but from what i've read, i'm going to guess The Easy Life.
Yes, that was it, thank you.
Quote from: StefenMoarty was robbed! Clint had Swank, Freeman and himself. he shouldnt win shit. But mdb was fantastic, but damn, Marty deserved it, Avitator was alot harder to direct than mdb.
ha! i know this is old news but the day that i found out that the academy doesnt give the award to the deserving director who helms a more ambitous peice of art was when ron howard received the award for 'directing' a beautiful mind over lynch for mulholland dr. i mean, come the fuck on! the absudity of this is laughable. 5-10 years from now what are peole going to think about a beautriful mind? its going to be forgotten and pilled up aslongside other good but nothing astounding films -there are many. ... while on the other hand mulhnd dr. will always be remember for its imagery, sounds, satire, exlporation , degradation, naomi watts mastubation, and for inspiring other people to make films and or/appreciate that FILM IS ART.....that deserves a directing award........not:
alright, russell, now hold her hand up and do a make beleive constellation waaaaaaaaaaaaay up there in the sky :roll:
marty, like lynch, kubrick, malick,altman, hitchcock, et al are too good to win oscars.
I didn't see the show.. what was the tim robbins joke?
I made my predictions for my aunt, who was in an oscar competition at her work, turned it out that I've won the whole thing :shock: From the $150 she gave $100, and no, you can't hear me complain about that 8)
(I had 18 of the 24 catogories good)
Quote from: rustinglassI didn't see the show.. what was the tim robbins joke?
Chris Rock said something about Tim Robbins boring people with his politics.
Is there available a transcript or video of Rock's opening speech somewhere?
I missed it.
My 2 cents. Why? Nobody really cares, but it makes me feel kinda fuzzy typing it....
Hahahahaha, Million Dollar.... hahahahaha, go on the list with Ordinary People and Dances With Wolves... oh the Academy is actually soooooo predictable that I've come to appreciate it. Cos about halfway through January I started thinking about how awesome Aviator was and getting really scared that Marty would have to win this shit thing, but I finally came to my senses when I heard about this Eastwood movie gaining steam. Oh joy joy joy, now MS can stay untainted. It's so beautiful. And yes I am being slightly closeminded, but I wouldn't see Million Dollar Shit for any amount in the world --- FEMALE BOXER!!!! HAhahahahahaha... ahah, really... *whew*.... seriously. Thank you, Oscars. Thank you for being so fucking bad.
Did anybody get a chance to read the Scorsese interview from a day before? It was here in the Times. He basically said that it would be a crock to give him the best director at this point, after fucking him over so many times, it would seem like a slap in the face. His quote was something like "Taxi Driver: best picture nom, best actor nom, best supporting actress nom, best score nom.... I guess the writer and director had nothing to do with that". Fucking class! And he went on to say something like the best thing about the Oscars now is to go and see all the hot actresses in skimpy dresses. The man becomes more of a hero to me every day. Slag it off as bitterness if you like, bitterness is fantastic. You be bitter about what you want to be bitter about -- to liberally paraphrase ol' Earl Partridge.
Quote from: SoNowThenHahahahaha, Million Dollar.... hahahahaha, go on the list with Ordinary People and Dances With Wolves...
Umm, no (for Ordinary People, don't really care for Dances). MDB is in a league all by itself, though.
Quote from: SoNowThenAnd yes I am being slightly closeminded
Umm, yes.
Quote from: SoNowThenbut I wouldn't see Million Dollar Shit for any amount in the world --- FEMALE BOXER!!!! HAhahahahahaha... ahah, really... *whew*.... seriously. Thank you, Oscars. Thank you for being so fucking bad.
Umm, no. You're being an idiot, just like when you were badmouthing Almodovar. Go see the movie already.
Quote from: SoNowThenMy 2 cents. Why? Nobody really cares, but it makes me feel kinda fuzzy typing it....
Hahahahaha, Million Dollar.... hahahahaha, go on the list with Ordinary People and Dances With Wolves... oh the Academy is actually soooooo predictable that I've come to appreciate it. Cos about halfway through January I started thinking about how awesome Aviator was and getting really scared that Marty would have to win this shit thing, but I finally came to my senses when I heard about this Eastwood movie gaining steam. Oh joy joy joy, now MS can stay untainted. It's so beautiful. And yes I am being slightly closeminded, but I wouldn't see Million Dollar Shit for any amount in the world --- FEMALE BOXER!!!! HAhahahahahaha... ahah, really... *whew*.... seriously. Thank you, Oscars. Thank you for being so fucking bad.
Did anybody get a chance to read the Scorsese interview from a day before? It was here in the Times. He basically said that it would be a crock to give him the best director at this point, after fucking him over so many times, it would seem like a slap in the face. His quote was something like "Taxi Driver: best picture nom, best actor nom, best supporting actress nom, best score nom.... I guess the writer and director had nothing to do with that". Fucking class! And he went on to say something like the best thing about the Oscars now is to go and see all the hot actresses in skimpy dresses. The man becomes more of a hero to me every day. Slag it off as bitterness if you like, bitterness is fantastic. You be bitter about what you want to be bitter about -- to liberally paraphrase ol' Earl Partridge.
You're trying to essentially say the Oscars don't matter, but your post is such a speel and tirade that you're coming off as caring more about it than anyone here.
I don't mind Scorsese not winning. I still judge directing talent for a given year based off that year, not a career. Scorsese handled the story well, but the signature touch he brought to the film was that he borrowed from so many of his past films. For Scorsese, the title of "director-for-hire" seems too comfortable for his talent.
Finally, I'll argue the value of Dances With Wolves anyday. People need to stop just labeling that film a throw away. Also, see Million Dollar Baby. I think your dismissal will stand, but your stance right now just comes off as misogynistic. Its opposite of JB's own hesitance to the film.
Quote from: rustinglassI didn't see the show.. what was the tim robbins joke?
"When our next presenter is not dazzling us with his acting ability, he's boring us to death with his politics. Please welcome Academy Award Winner Tim Robbins."
Quote from: FernandoIs there available a transcript or video of Rock's opening speech somewhere?
I missed it.
As close as I can find without transcribing the entire monologue myself:
Edgy Chris Rock Brings New Tone to Oscars"Sit your asses down!"
With those four words, comedian Chris Rock brought a new tone to the Oscars that network executives and sponsors of the Academy Awards hope will lure back a bigger, younger TV audience to Hollywood's biggest night.
Giving the Oscar producers what they paid for, the first-time host introduced an edgy, provocative mood to the show, with a monologue that was politically charged and racially aware while seeming, at times, to veer close to profane.
Rock, who drew controversy weeks before taking the Oscar stage by suggesting that he and most other African Americans had little reason to watch the awards, opened Sunday's show by acknowledging the record number of black performers vying for acting honors this year.
"We have, like, four black nominees. It's kinda like the Def Oscar Jam tonight," he enthused, in a reference to the HBO comedy series "Def Comedy Jam," a springboard for many black performers.
While flirting with network censors in his choice of words as he urged the star-studded studio audience to take their seats, the opening minutes of the broadcast bore no signs that ABC was forced to bleep put any of his remarks.
The sharp-tongued comic drew some of his biggest laughs with jabs aimed at President Bush, the involuntary star of Michael Moore's scathing documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11."
Rock noted that Moore's film, though shut out of the Oscar competition, was breaking box office records at the time Bush was running for re-election.
"Can you imagine applying for a job, and while you're applying for that job there's a movie in every theater in the country that shows how much you suck in that job?" Rock said. "It would be hard to get hired, wouldn't it?"
Citing "another movie nobody wanted to make this year," Rock turned to Mel Gibson 's blood-soaked homage to the final hours in the life of Jesus, "The Passion of the Christ."
"I saw 'Passion of the Christ. Not that funny, really," he joked. "Nobody wanted to make 'Passion of the Christ,' man. Come on. They made six 'Police Academies' and can't make one 'Passion of the Christ."'
Turning again to race for laughs, Rock complained that Hollywood makes movies "for white people to enjoy -- real movies, with plots, with actors, not rappers, with real names, like, 'Catch Me If You Can,' like 'Saving Private Ryan.'
"Black movies don't have real names," Rock continued. "They get names like 'Barbershop.' That's not a name. That's just a location. 'Barbershop,' 'Cookout,' 'Carwash,' ... you know 'Laundromat's' coming soon, and after that, 'Check-Cashing Place."'
Rock closed his monologue by sending "love out to our troops fighting all over the world."
Quote from: SoNowThenAnd yes I am being slightly closeminded, but I wouldn't see Million Dollar Shit for any amount in the world --- FEMALE BOXER!!!! HAhahahahahaha... ahah, really... *whew*.... seriously.
Quote from: GhostboyThe trailers do a wonderful job at not giving away what the movie is actually about.
Quote from: FjodorI made my predictions for my aunt, who was in an oscar competition at her work, turned it out that I've won the whole thing :shock: From the $150 she gave $100, and no, you can't hear me complain about that 8)
(I had 18 of the 24 catogories good)
I lost my pool. I had 17/24, but some mofo had 19/24.
Also, since I thought Million Dollar Baby was better than The Aviator, I'm glad that Clint won. It's supposed to award the best director/movie of the year, not award their overall careers. At this point, a career achievement Oscar would be the best thing for Scorsese. Now, Scorsese WAS screwed several times over in the past, when he should have won, but last night was all right by me. I would've been upset if voters gave into the pressure of "but it's about time that he got one." Not for this movie. It was very good, but... it just wasn't the best of the year. Neither was Million Dollar Baby, for that matter, but it was the best of the nominated pictures (but nearly tied with Sideways).
But "it's about time that he got one" is a lame excuse to get an award and results in things like Russell Crowe winning Best Actor for Gladiator.
When A Beautiful Mind won, there's a valid point that, well, that wasn't the best of 'em (it was just the safest, most Oscar-friendly). Sure, I would support Lynch over Howard ANY DAY, but I would only support Scorsese over Eastwood when Scorsese makes a better film than Eastwood in the same year.
Overall, Scorsese is definitely the stronger filmmaker. Just. Not. This. Year.
I'm jsut gonna repeat the same argument that people have already made, but, personally, it doesn't matter which one was the better film (and personally, I preferred Aviator), its about which director did the best job(that sounded better in my head, but I think you all know what I'm trying to say). Now, you take two films that are interesting, well shot, well edited, well acted, engaging, but one has like 500% more people and locations and props and visual effects and dialogue then the other, who is the best director? I mean, Eastwood had himself and hilary swank in most of the scenes and no one else, I would estimate that at least 50% of the film took place in the gym. He took the easier route. Eastwood could not have done Aviator, but scorcese could have directed the crap out of MDB and it would have been way better and stylized. So, scorcese is the best director and he deserved the oscar.
Quote from: ono mo cuishleQuote from: SoNowThenHahahahaha, Million Dollar.... hahahahaha, go on the list with Ordinary People and Dances With Wolves...
Umm, no (for Ordinary People, don't really care for Dances). MDB is in a league all by itself, though.
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Umm, yes.
Quote from: SoNowThenbut I wouldn't see Million Dollar Shit for any amount in the world --- FEMALE BOXER!!!! HAhahahahahaha... ahah, really... *whew*.... seriously. Thank you, Oscars. Thank you for being so fucking bad.
Umm, no. You're being an idiot, just like when you were badmouthing Almodovar. Go see the movie already.
there needs to be a law that prohibits the use of the word 'Um'. just sayin' :yabbse-undecided:
Umm, no.
And those of you who didn't see the heavy stylization in Million Dollar Baby simply weren't watching the same movie, or weren't paying very much attention. Stylization is more than quick cuts and funny angles. It's atmosphere, which MDB has in spades. No comments about Scorsese, other than that the whining is old. Still haven't seen Aviator myself, been too busy. But Scorsese will be back in 2007 for The Departed. He'll probably lose again, but he'll be back.
Quote from: ono mo cuishleUmm, no.
same goes for knee-jerk reactions.
Quote from: ono mo cuishleUmm, no.
And those of you who didn't see the heavy stylization in Million Dollar Baby simply weren't watching the same movie, or weren't paying very much attention. Stylization is more than quick cuts and funny angles. It's atmosphere, which MDB has in spades. No comments about Scorsese, other than that the whining is old. Still haven't seen Aviator myself, been too busy. But Scorsese will be back in 2007 for The Departed. He'll probably lose again, but he'll be back.
I'm sorry, but a slow paced clint eastwood film that felt to me like it was meant to appeal to senior citizens more than anyone else compared to scorcese's the aviator, rich, colorful and original. Gee. And I generally like slow paced films, if its called for. But eastwood had the same style in mystic river, which I wasn't a huge fan of either. Does that mean he's a good director? Was that style called for for the story he was trying to tell, or is it all he can do? Scorcese has much more range, in my opinion.
a twist (http://66.98.222.90/~stevet/xp3/videos/videos/720TWIS2.MPG)
i read in the paper that Marty's 0 for 5 puts him in a club with two other directors:
Alfred Hitchcock & Robert Altman
not bad, eh?
and brett ratner (so far).
I hear the Oscars were down 2 million viewers from last year, and they're blaming it on the heartland.
:lol:
Fucking red states..
Quote from: MyxomatosisI hear the Oscars were down 2 million viewers from last year, and they're blaming it on the heartland.
:lol:
Fucking red states..
Academy Awards TV Audience Down 2 MillionWith comedian Chris Rock, the Academy Awards succeeded in its effort to find a younger audience but perhaps at the expense of the country as a whole.
A total of 41.5 million viewers tuned in Sunday to watch "Million Dollar Baby" take the Oscar for best picture. That's down 2 million from last year's show, which honored "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" according to Nielsen Media Research.
ABC undoubtedly hoped for better, after preliminary figures released earlier Monday from the top 56 markets were the strongest they were in five years.
The drop in total viewership was an indication that this year's Oscar ceremony was more popular in the big cities than rural areas, more so than an average Academy Awards, said Larry Hyams, vice president of audience analysis and research for ABC.
Oscar ratings were up from last year among viewers aged 18 to 34 a prime target for the advertisers who pay millions of dollars for time on what is traditionally the year's highest-rated program after the Super Bowl.
Hyams attributed the boost in young viewership to Rock.
"The academy made a concerted effort to go in a different direction and try to appeal to a younger audience with the Academy Awards, and it appears they have succeeded," he said.
It was the 12th time since 1990 that the Academy Awards drew an audience of between 40 and 46 million people, according to Nielsen. The peak during that stretch was the "Titanic" year of 1998 with 55.2 million, and the low point was 33 million in 2003, when "Chicago" won.
Rock said backstage after the Oscars that he hoped to do it again, although "who knows if they would want me again."
He attracted plenty of pre-Oscars publicity, including speculation about whether he would make jokes at the expense of President Bush (he did) or test ABC censors with curse words (he didn't).
"Put it this way, I don't curse in front of my mother," Rock said. "And my mother was front and center, you know, right in my view. So I could never curse in front of Rose Rock, so why would I do it on television?"
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Ah, but that's the thing (and the reason for my tirade -- which, btw GT, was out of pleasure, in case it didn't come across), why/how did any of us ever buy into the pomposity of measuring who "best" directed something, and then give an award for it? Marty could set up a video camera, and talk into it for 10 minutes, and because he's the way he is, I would like it better than anything Eastwood ever did. In fact, Marty DID do that with that extra footage on the Last Temptation dvd. I have nothing per se against Clint Eastwood (both acting and directing, what I've seen I certainly haven't minded, and have sometimes liked quite a bit), but I've seen Unforgiven once, and watched the handicam footage from the Last Temptation set about 30 times.
It's not about one man vs another for me in regards to this, and whether or not someone really deserved it, cos MS has the appeal of a best friend for me -- if he does pretty much anything I'll get something out of it and praise the hell out of it -- it's about the stupidity of the event. If I was one of you guys who loved MDB, I'd be pissed off that the academy just cheapened it, and now sent out about 100 000 idiots who worship awards shows to watch it, and so the next time you go to check it out in the theatre you'll have to put up with these cretins making noise, and then when you go to work the next day you'll have to deal with them loving it or hating it for trite reasons that most likely aren't even their own.
Did I ever tell you about the time I hate people? :kiss:
Quote from: MyxomatosisI hear the Oscars were down 2 million viewers from last year, and they're blaming it on the heartland.
:lol:
Fucking red states..
It doesn't necessarily help viewership when the combined US box office gross of this year's 5 best picture nominees is $20 million short of last year's best picture winner's gross by Oscar night.
But then again, my girlfriend actually heard someone at her job complain Monday morning that they were "offended" by Chris Rock. :doh:
Fucking red states...
I'm totally offended by his skin color.
Quote from: RecceNow, you take two films that are interesting, well shot, well edited, well acted, engaging, but one has like 500% more people and locations and props and visual effects and dialogue then the other, who is the best director? I mean, Eastwood had himself and hilary swank in most of the scenes and no one else, I would estimate that at least 50% of the film took place in the gym. He took the easier route. Eastwood could not have done Aviator, but scorcese could have directed the crap out of MDB and it would have been way better and stylized. So, scorcese is the best director and he deserved the oscar.
It's silly that you think bigger is better.
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Ah, but that's the thing (and the reason for my tirade -- which, btw GT, was out of pleasure, in case it didn't come across), why/how did any of us ever buy into the pomposity of measuring who "best" directed something, and then give an award for it?
I'll admit, it is kind of weird to give a best directing award that doesn't necessarily reflect the best picture award (granted, more often then not it does, but...). If your film was the best, it would seem that you are the best director. But, we all know that's not how they do it, which is why I still say Scorcese should have gotten it. If they don't always give it to the best picture director, then they must take into consideration how ambitious a project is and how well it was pulled off despite the enormous obstacles that needed to be overcome. It just seems to me that the oscars are inconsistent in the guidelines they use to judge films, which, in all probability, is just a ploy to maintain a certain suspense. If they really judged it the same way every year, people would be able to figure out what will win easily. They do it for the audience at home, which is not cool, cause Scorcese keeps getting fucked cause of it (sure, its paranoid, but thats my rationalization).
It's funny... this is the exact opposite of last year's argument.
Keep going until about page 10. (http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=5604&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45)
Quote from: bigideasi read in the paper that Marty's 0 for 5 puts him in a club with two other directors:
Alfred Hitchcock & Robert Altman
not bad, eh?
he was in their club anyways.
A Tone-Deaf Oscar Snubbed the Best Song Winner
COMMENTARY By Paulo Prada, a Colombian American; a freelance writer based in Rio de Janeiro.
When Penelope Cruz and Salma Hayek took the stage at the Academy Awards ceremony on Sunday night, most viewers — once they had taken in the merits of the stars' slinky dresses and their physical attributes — grasped the obvious: The Spanish and Mexican actresses were there to give the show a touch of Latin flair.
Indeed, one of Hayek's chief responsibilities was to introduce Jorge Drexler's "Al Otro Lado del Rio," the haunting song from the Spanish-language film "The Motorcycle Diaries." It was the first song in Spanish ever to receive an Oscar nomination for best original song.
But what followed was a travesty. Apparently, the show's producers deemed Drexler, a respected Uruguayan songwriter, too much of a nobody to sing his own song live. Instead, they asked two famous Latinos — Latinos, that is, with a substantial base of white, mainstream fans — to perform it in his place. Never mind that the singer they chose, Antonio Banderas, isn't really known as a singer. Or that his accompanist, Carlos Santana, is better suited to performing the wailing power-pop of his recent career than the subtle, acoustic dynamics that made the song poignant.
Gil Cates, the show's producer, presumably approved Santana and Banderas as safe, viewer-friendly crossover alternatives capable of lending further glow to the show's marquee. Ratings, after all, reign at a time when the public suffers from awards fatigue.
But by inserting two token Latino stars in place of the artist who wrote the music (and who sang it in the film), Cates insulted the song, the songwriter and the multicultural ideal the academy supposedly sought to toast. By presenting a makeshift, middle-of-the-road substitute, the ceremony belittled the very value of the song it was honoring.
Santana and Banderas, Mexican and Spanish by birth, struggled to perform a song whose roots lie in the slow, pulsating rhythms of folk music from southern South America. Imagine a Scotsman trying to wrap his brogue around hip-hop from Brooklyn or South Los Angeles.
Not surprisingly, Latin American media have been all over the story for a week. They noted that Hayek introduced the song only because Gael Garcia Bernal, the Mexican star of "The Motorcycle Diaries," backed out of the ceremony in protest. The film's Brazilian director, Walter Salles, last week issued a statement calling the exclusion "unethical," "disrespectful to the author" and "ignorant of the cultural diversity that exists in Latin America."
And Drexler himself told Clarin, an Argentine daily, that some of the singers suggested by producers filled him with "literal dread because they have no connection to what I do." Among them, shockingly, was teeny-bopper icon Enrique Iglesias. What were these people thinking?
The hubbub is not about envy, egos or camera time: It's about the inability of the ceremony's producers to see beyond their broad-brush perception of ethnic difference.
When Drexler finally climbed onstage to accept the Oscar — cameras earlier showed him cringing in his seat throughout the rendition — he was defiant but noble. He sang a capella lines from his song and then muttered "gracias" and "thank you."
Sure, the trophy means something. But in their scramble for blockbuster appeal, the producers undermined the academy's recognition of his work and, by extension, the worth of the Oscar itself.
Good find, Mac. That certainly was a "what the fuck?" moment on the broadcast.
Weren't the counting crows the only band/artist with a nomination to actually perform?
Reason I say this, my friend told me that Beyonce's french was off in the first song.
Quote from: SHAFTRWeren't the counting crows the only band/artist with a nomination to actually perform?
Reason I say this, my friend told me that Beyonce's french was off in the first song.
Yes, my friend speaks French and she was freaking out. I was like "What's the big deal" and she said it was the most horrendous pronunciation she's ever heard.