I was watching the once upon a time in the west dvd and it has john carpenter, alex cox, and john milius talking about it. In the future a new format will come along much like what happened with dvd and all the old movies (new movies now kind of) will get the special edition treatment like once upon a time in the west did on dvd. So I was wondering what movies we will be talking about for those of us who might become established respected filmmakers. The whole "i first saw so and so...." schpeel on the special features disk.
Some of mine would be.
All pta flicks.
All wes anderson flicks.
Breaking the waves and Dancer in the dark.
All About my mother and Talk to her.
Being John Malkovich.
George washington.
American Movie.
Summer of sam.
heavenly creatures.
the sweet hereafter.
election.
spirited away.
those are the main movies that shaped my tastes that i have now. Some movies are on the cusp such as fight club and donnie darko, the insider, some pixar films, amores perros, and more depending on how they age and hold up over time (the ones above are already classics as far as im concerned) .
I'd be involved with releases of older movies also like the red shoes, day for night, 39 steps, high and low, the mirror, most bresson, godard flicks stuff like that, but I think the people who came before us will have that covered.
So my question is which movies would you give the "I first saw _____...." interview for in the future?
I'll try to keep it short:
All the Real Girls
Back to the Future
Brazil
Don't Look Now
Evil Dead II
Hedwig and the Angry Inch
The Limey
Magnolia
Mulholland Drive
My Own Private Idaho
Princess Mononoke
Films that I know I'll be discussing as influences in the future, for better or worse and in no particular order:
Magnolia (d. Paul Thomas Anderson, 1999)
Bande à part (d. Jean-Luc Godard, 1964)
Pulp Fiction (d. Quentin Tarantino, 1994)
Minority Report (d. Steven Spielberg, 2002)
Boogie Nights (d. Paul Thomas Anderson, 1997)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (d. Michel Gondry, 2004)
The Little Solider (d. Jean-Luc Godard, 1960)
Alphaville, a Strange Case of Lemmy Caution (d. Jean-Luc Godard, 1965)
Contempt (d. Jean-Luc Godard, 1963)
Blade Runner (d. Ridley Scott, 1982)
Taxi Driver (d. Martin Scorsese, 1976)
GoodFellas (d. Martin Scorsese, 1990)
Traffic (d. Steven Soderbergh, 2000)
Full Frontal (d. Steven Soderbergh, 2002)
Eyes Wide Shut (d. Stanley Kubrick, 1999)
The Royal Tenenbaums (d. Wes Anderson, 2001)
Annie Hall (d. Woody Allen, 1977)
Husbands and Wives (d. Woody Allen, 1992)
M*A*S*H (d. Robert Altman, 1970)
The Talented Mr. Ripley (d. Anthony Minghella, 1999)
The Piano (d. Jane Campion, 1993)
Crumb (d. Terry Zwigoff, 1994)
Day for Night (d. François Truffaut, 1973)
The Godfather (d. Francis Ford Coppola, 1972)
Lost in Translation (d. Sofia Coppola, 2003)
8 ½ (d. Federico Fellini, 1963)
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I'm not quite grasping the concept of this thread.. I have to name newer films? Because I was influenced by PTA and QT mostly but besides that, it was the older films I saw that would lead me to a movie in the future. So here's my short list:
Bunuel's Belle de Jour
Altman's Nashville
Welles's Citizen Kane
PTA's Boogie Nights
Bergman's Persona
Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange
Scorsese's Goodfellas
Godard's Breathless
Allen's Annie Hall
Fellini's 8 1/2
In order (according to my age at the time):
Ghostbusters
Reservoir Dogs
Casino
Boogie Nights
Fight Club
Magnolia
Taxi Driver
8 1/2
My Life To Live
Walkabout
The Conformist
Brazil
In Praise Of Love
In The Mood For Love
When I used to like Dragon Ball Z , I swore I would save all my books and stuff for the future. I didn't.
Assuming that PTA, Wes, and Tarantino are given, the ones I think are the most ripe for discussion:
Time Bandits (Gilliam)
The Fortune Cookie (Wilder)
Escape From New York (Carpenter)
Fallen Angels (Wong)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry)
Yi Yi (Yang)
George Washington (Green)
Schizopolis (Soderbergh)
Office Space (Judge)
Basquiat (Schnabel)
Cyclo (Tran anh Hung)
Trading Places (Landis) [that's right]
Trainspotting (Boyle)
And all of Spike Lee's post-Malcolm X output (except for Girl 6 and Summer of Sam.)
Reservoir Dogs
Pulp Fiction
Boogie Nights
Magnolia
Trainspotting
Fight Club
American Beauty
Kill Bill
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
The Deer Hunter
Apocalypse Now
Jackie Brown
geez, with the exception of hacksparrow, it's a good thing no one will ever get the chance to talk about their influence (on any noticeable scale) cos it all sounds pretty typical so far.
i'd be talking about all the comics and things i read, experiences that shaped me, and then when it got to "movies that made me/ blew my mind into consciousness" i'd just say Kubrick, Naked, and Breaking the Waves, and specific to my growing up: various music videos. and that's all there would be to it.
i'd prolly talk about TV more than movies. all this will likely change when i can afford all the criterion titles, then i'll sound like a real intellectual prick. i think that's an interesting point, cos now more than ever our influences won't be limited to what's at the local cineplex.. like scorsese would hav been in his youth. we can choose to be obsessed with whatever we want, really, and hopefully the young filmmakers realise that and stop trying to emulate past (mostly inferior) achievements.
so yeah, i'd mention that in the interview as well. the important thing would be to tell the kids, to understand what i did (if anything) in context of a lifetime and all the sh*t that goes into that.. of which my list of influences would be a part, along with my fears, general misconceptions of the world, etc. i'm starting to think i got off topic, but this is what came to mind when i started thinking about the reality of these sound bytes that kids (like myself) put so much value in.
so i guess i wouldn't take part in many dvd things, come to think of it.
*like crono was implying, the view expressed in this post will become meaningless in 6 to 12 months*
The thing about these dvd things is that they'll get us to talk about the unappreciated movies we liked, not our top 5 lists.
Like when they do an Office Space 25th Anniversary disc, or The Big Lebowski special edition. Those will be the movies we will do interviews for.
What I meant is whata re your favorite movies that came out during your era. Your childhood and adolescence, we all can harp back to the older movies but so can the other generations. I'm talking about what movies shaped our youth and our tastes that came out in our era. The movies we'll be talking about when the new formats of home video(?) come out. Much like carpenter and alex cox were doing on the ocne upon a time in the west dvd. Okay, what would be the movies we would be talking about for our generations decade under the influence documentary.
oh, the neverending story
Quote from: Pubrickit all sounds pretty typical so far.
Quote from: PubrickKubrick
Yep.
werner herzog movies, esp. enigma of kaspar hauser
ping pong
bottle rocket and rushmore
the puppet master (hou hsiao hsien)
the two films I seen of parajanov
jackie chan movies
stephen chow movies
but mostly it's just ping pong, that movie really really inspired me.
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So my question is which movies would you give the "I first saw _____...." interview for in the future?
..well for starters mulholland dr., even though i have seen all of lynch's films its mulholland that gives me the chills the most and still keeps me in the "i can't believe i'm actually watching this"..vibe after copuntless viewings..
..then i would say aronofsky's requiem....its what i like most about film...cool visuals and a killer soundtrack......similar to lynch..but lynch's visual style is not flashy in mulholland or typically lynch doesn't do flasy sh*t in his films...w/ the exception of lost highway..maybe.
..lynch has a more elegant vibe...bu tdoen w/ surreal/disturbing tones....aronofsky is just viscious and quick...which is fine by me also..
also...kubrick's the shining 2001, and eyes wide shut............brilliance in style...phucking cathartic sh*t.....then i go w/ talk to her ...i said thisd many of times ..bu tthis film is the most "beattiful" thing i hav eever seen.when watching this film..my eyes sweel up and my heart feels like its gonna beat the phuck out of my chest....the film has such a swoonign electric eroticism.............and then i would say the thin red line.....which i can't describe anymore b/c the more i do the more i cheapen the experience..just go see it.........!!!.........
then some honerable mentions ..are soderbergh's solaris....and..bergman's persona.... basically its the films that have a spiritual or "that moment" kind of vibe running through them..........its a big difference from (lets say) a wes anderson film.....where as yopu just watch that just for witty humor..and sharp witted dialogue..........A FILM NEEDS TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE....like the ones i have mentioned..........
As a teenager, I was fortunate enough to get into films during the golden age of the 70's. Barry Lyndon, my first Kubrick film, blew my mind and made me aware of a director's style. In short order, I saw Clockwork and 2001. I also discovered Altman, with MASH, Nashville and McCabe showing an utterly unique directorial voice. Then there was Scorsese, with Alice, Taxi and Mean Streets. I saw all of these films before I turned 15, and they have remained among my favorites, alongside Lenny, Carrie, Deliverance, Easy Rider, Dog Day Afternoon and All the President's Men.
Quote from: The Silver BulletQuote from: Pubrickit all sounds pretty typical so far.
Quote from: PubrickKubrick
Yep.
yep, way to ignore the rest of the post.
Quote from: Pubrickyep, way to ignore the rest of the post.
Well, regardless of everything else you said, to mention Kubrick is just as "typical" as to mention Scorsese or anyone else. Anyway, what's wrong with mentioning the "typical" names? There's a very good reason for them being the ones most often mentioned: they're the ones that most often "hook" upcoming filmmakers and get them addicted to cinema. I mentioned
Magnolia for example, not because it's one of my very favourite films [my favourite film of all time wasn't on my list, actually], but because it had a profound effect on me and my filmmaking when I first saw it. My current tastes [and I'm sure it's the same for the others you said were offering merely "typical" lists] are not represented by the list I made, only the source of my desire to make films.
Anyway, I like your other sources of inspiration and find them rather interesting [and the point you made about citing television just as much, if not more, than movies especially], but the fact of the matter is that Kubrick is just as "typical" a response as anyone else's.
What's your favorite film , Silver Bullet?
Quote from: The Silver Bullet, who is actually less annoying on MSNAnyway, I like your other sources of inspiration and find them rather interesting [and the point you made about citing television just as much, if not more, than movies especially], but the fact of the matter is that Kubrick is just as "typical" a response as anyone else's.
i'm not arguing that. i only kept my typical to a minimum.
besides, i even said that it will all change once i can afford criterion titles. so this is pointless. not that it matters, with stefen clearing up what he meant, i guess we will all say the typical underrated stuff that the public never fell for, but will be forced to recognize once young critics grow up and start mentioning them all the time (Magnolia, Eyes Wide Shut, 'tever).
Quote from: cronopioWhat's your favorite film , Silver Bullet?
Lawrence of Arabia (d. David Lean, 1962)I love it, of course, and I find it inspiring, but it's never impacted upon me in the practical, "that's-my-style-right-there" kind of way.
Quote from: The Silver BulletQuote from: cronopioWhat's your favorite film , Silver Bullet?
Lawrence of Arabia (d. David Lean, 1962)
I love it, of course, and I find it inspiring, but it's never impacted upon me in the practical, "that's-my-style-right-there" kind of way.
Ha, that's funny because today in the morning I was talking about that film and how stupid I felt when I heard about the Superbit Edition.