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Conan by a mile.

I'm reminded of a random joke I heard during an SNL sketch, about the packaging looking okay wth Kilborn, but there's a soulless wretch lurking inside.  I don't really have anything against Kilborn, per se.  He has his moments, but it's just that there's no comparison.  Conan has this true, self-deprecating charisma, whereas Kilborn is just a smug bastard, and not a very funny one.

Kilborn is the shit and i his show as a whole is much more entertaining than Connan

Conan. Kilborn is too smug. Conan doesn't take himself seriously. Also, Kilborn sucks.

Conan, definetely. he's a lot more entertaining and i really love the masturbating bear and little jay leno.

I'll admit it... I like Kilborn...  because he's hot.

Quote from: ThrindleI'll admit it... I like Kilborn...  because he's hot.

Women are ruining comedy!!!

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Quote from: ThrindleI'll admit it... I like Kilborn...  because he's hot.

Women are ruining comedy!!!

Was that supposed to be funny?

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Quote from: ThrindleI'll admit it... I like Kilborn...  because he's hot.

Women are ruining comedy!!!

Was that supposed to be funny?

No

be cool my babies.

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How apropos...

OH man. I could never pick between the two. Kilborn was my first late night love. I live for Five Questions. (Yambo kicks arse, too) I love how full of himself he is, its sexy. yeoow. Plus, it's all in fun.

I would never watch Conan because the channel was on my Craigers. I gave Conan a chance about a year ago and now my heart loves him too. Conan almost makes me go pee pee in my pants. Like everything that man says in hilarious.

Late night television, you light up my life. Please Mr. Tictacbk don't make this poor girl choose between the two.  ...

Hands down, Kilborn. Conan is wwwaaaayyy overrated and running off the "successful dork" image I really never could identify with and am bored with already. Kilborn does play the role of "intellectual and cool frat boy", but its much closer to my own tastes big time.

Quote from: BethieOH man. I could never pick between the two. Kilborn was my first late night love. I live for Five Questions. (Yambo kicks arse, too) I love how full of himself he is, its sexy. yeoow. Plus, it's all in fun.

I would never watch Conan because the channel was on my Craigers. I gave Conan a chance about a year ago and now my heart loves him too. Conan almost makes me go pee pee in my pants. Like everything that man says in hilarious.

Late night television, you light up my life. Please Mr. Tictacbk don't make this poor girl choose between the two.  ...

This is exactly how it was for me too.  I used to always watch Kilby.  I loved his inside jokes and YAMBO.  But then I switched over to Conan for reasons even I cannot explain.  Now I'm torn between the two.

Quote from: The Gold TrumpetHands down, Kilborn. Conan is wwwaaaayyy overrated and running off the "successful dork" image I really never could identify with and am bored with already. Kilborn does play the role of "intellectual and cool frat boy", but its much closer to my own tastes big time.

My god, I'm not surprised...

Conan... he's actually funny... and he's not a prick... and he's good at what he does... and he doesn't eat shit

..conan!!!!....kilborn's semi-funny jokes and routine served him better when he was on espn's sportscenter..its really hard to watch his show and not feel like your wasting valuable time in your life that could be used for someting better.....like planting trees or sticking butterfingers up your ass... :kiss:

i hate "Five Questions"

noone angers me more than craig kilborn.  i fucking hate him!  hate him!  if i could get away with it i would break his jaw.  i can't stand cocky people.

I could never get into Kilborn. I hated the Daily Show until Stewart took the reigns, now that show is sure fire comic gold, in my books.
Conan I've loved since I first caught him in '95. Yeah, the whole "marriage" and "having babies" thing kinda throws off his 'I'm a great big dork' routine, if you think about it, but his shows so fun I just forget about everything else. Same with the Kilborn-free Daily Show.

I hated every second Kilborn was on screen in Old School too. Don't know what it is about it, I just don't like him.

Quote from: ranemaka13I hated every second Kilborn was on screen in Old School too. Don't know what it is about it, I just don't like him.

well he DID play a huge asshole. not a big stretch for him apparently.

Quote from: ranemaka13Yeah, the whole "marriage" and "having babies" thing kinda throws off his 'I'm a great big dork' routine, if you think about it

You must not watch Conan much. He always hits on the women anyway claiming that the ring doesn't hold him back and such. Also about the having babies... Conan was drinking on his first show back from his wife delivering, and screaming "WHERE'S THE BABY" with the bottle in his hand during the interview segment. Didn't throw off his image at all.

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Quote from: BethieOH man. I could never pick between the two. Kilborn was my first late night love. I live for Five Questions. (Yambo kicks arse, too) I love how full of himself he is, its sexy. yeoow. Plus, it's all in fun.

I would never watch Conan because the channel was on my Craigers. I gave Conan a chance about a year ago and now my heart loves him too. Conan almost makes me go pee pee in my pants. Like everything that man says in hilarious.

Late night television, you light up my life. Please Mr. Tictacbk don't make this poor girl choose between the two.  ...

This is exactly how it was for me too.  I used to always watch Kilby.  I loved his inside jokes and YAMBO.  But then I switched over to Conan for reasons even I cannot explain.  Now I'm torn between the two.

I watch Craigers because I know that I can catch the cone man on Comedy Central the next day. So I get the best of both worlds.

Which one of you dared to say you hate five questions? I curse you.

Everyone hates Craig for the same reason. Why can't you understand that he acts like that just to get laughs? I don't believe he is that pretentious in real life. And have you not noticed how much Conan talks about himself on his show? Someone else had pointed that out to me and the next time I watched Conan I couldn't take it. He always directs the conversation back to him. He doesn't concentrate on his guest.

Quote from: BethieEveryone hates Craig for the same reason. Why can't you understand that he acts like that just to get laughs? I don't believe he is that pretentious in real life.

Correct. This is Kilborn's character on the show. I don't knock him for that. I knock him because I genuinely don't like him. I hope that's the case for others around here too.

Quote from: BethieAnd have you not noticed how much Conan talks about himself on his show? Someone else had pointed that out to me and the next time I watched Conan I couldn't take it. He always directs the conversation back to him. He doesn't concentrate on his guest.

He does this for two reasons:
1. To keep his show interesting. Conan talks about himself because it goes with his personality and obviously people love it. It's what keeps me watching.
2. He concentrates on his guests but when they get boring, Conan knows how to keep people from changing channels.
And don't forget: "It's Late Night with who?"

Quote from: CinephileAnd don't forget: "It's Late Night with who?"

that's the crux of it right there.

the notion that Conan is self-obsessed can only be taken so far, when u look at how generous he is in creating memorable recurring characters, and his references to supporting cast like Pender and La Bamba. it's not always about him. when he does talk about himself it's usually self-depracating or IRONICALLY self-aggrandizing (see cinephile's quote).. it's amazing this formula has stayed fresh for so long - not easy to pull off.

same cannot be said for Kilb or Len.

Quote from: Pubricksame cannot be said for Kilb or Len.

And let's not forget that Leno hates black people.

ps. Easiest poll-win ever.

What the hell, Kilborn or Conan ?! Am I on Xixax or some parrellel universe Xixax where everything is weird ?

OF COURSE CONAN

I'd have to say Conan. I like Kilborn's cockiness, it's quite funny really, but i never got into him after he left the Daily Show...and thank goodness he did cuz John Stewart is the MAN. Conan is just so effortless with his guests. He can smoothly transition from one topic to another and when he can't he cracks a joke about the audience not laughing or something. He never bores me with his insaneness and willingness to say whatever he wants...and it amazes me at the stuff he can get away with by just turning it into a joke. And i totally agree that his marriage has NOT kept him from being the "desperate dork" when it comes to his female guests, or even some male guests, and i just love when his shows have that touch of homoeroticism. that's my two cents.

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Quote from: ranemaka13Yeah, the whole "marriage" and "having babies" thing kinda throws off his 'I'm a great big dork' routine, if you think about it

You must not watch Conan much. He always hits on the women anyway claiming that the ring doesn't hold him back and such. Also about the having babies... Conan was drinking on his first show back from his wife delivering, and screaming "WHERE'S THE BABY" with the bottle in his hand during the interview segment. Didn't throw off his image at all.

No, no, I remember that episode. "Rebecca Romijn-Who?" Right?
I try to catch him as much as I can, though I have been missing it quite regularly since this semester started.
I'd try to explain what I meant, but I won't. It just won't make any sense and I'll come off like an even bigger idiot. I really have no problem with what Conan says or does, it's all gravy.

Quote from: BethieEveryone hates Craig for the same reason. Why can't you understand that he acts like that just to get laughs?

But it's not working.

Quote from: BankyKilborn is the shit and i his show as a whole is much more entertaining than Connan

I pity the foo' who picked Kilborn!

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Kilborn just ain't funny.

Neither, really, though I'd choose Conan if I HAD to choose.

Quote from: godardianNeither, really, though I'd choose Conan if I HAD to choose.

sorry rosie wasn't an option..  :(

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Quote from: godardianNeither, really, though I'd choose Conan if I HAD to choose.

sorry rosie wasn't an option..  :(

or caroline.

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Quote from: godardianNeither, really, though I'd choose Conan if I HAD to choose.

sorry rosie wasn't an option..  :(

or caroline.

You killed another joke.  :(  (And P thought I was bad.)

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Quote from: godardianNeither, really, though I'd choose Conan if I HAD to choose.

sorry rosie wasn't an option..  :(

or caroline.

You killed another joke.  :(  (And P thought I was bad.)

I smell a "joke killer" custom title

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Quote from: OnomatopoeiaYou killed another joke.  :(  (And P thought I was bad.)

I smell a "joke killer" custom title

ba dum ching!

Quote from: godardianNeither, really, though I'd choose Conan if I HAD to choose.

I can actually agree with not wanting to choose either, but Kilborn sometimes makes me laugh and I like his cockiness. My perfect late night talk show host would be Dennis Miller. and yes, even if he's conservative now.

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Quote from: godardianNeither, really, though I'd choose Conan if I HAD to choose.

sorry rosie wasn't an option..  :(

or caroline.

You killed another joke.  :(  (And P thought I was bad.)

I smell a "joke killer" custom title

if that were so, then i'd have to make my rep by killing jokes, so i'd kill every joke on the forum. :roll:

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Quote from: godardianNeither, really, though I'd choose Conan if I HAD to choose.

sorry rosie wasn't an option..  :(

or caroline.

You killed another joke.  :(  (And P thought I was bad.)

I smell a "joke killer" custom title

if that were so, then i'd have to make my rep by killing jokes, so i'd kill every joke on the forum. :roll:

actually u already proved that rep, so any further joke killings would be ironic at best. a strange thing happens when a person gets a True rank like that.. GT became likeable after he became Director of Lameography, ShanghaiOrange's sadness lost its edge when he became :(, Duck Sauce stopped PMing ppl when he became "Lonely? PM me now", and Chest Rockwell (llewkcoR tsehC) totally relaxed after his rank of Mini-Ebeaman showed him the terrifying light of truth.

if only ur rank would hav the same effect, i would consider it. u've definitely earned it notoriously as they did.. u make onomatopaiea look like stefen.

Exit at CBS: Kilborn going off 'Late' shift
Source: Hollywood Reporter

After five years in late night, Craig Kilborn is exiting as host of CBS' "The Late, Late Show With Craig Kilborn."

A CBS spokesman confirmed late Thursday that Kilborn had informed the network that he would not seek a renewal of his contract, which is believed to expire this year. The spokesman declined to elaborate.

Sources familiar with the situation said the parting was amicable. One source said Kilborn's reps had sought a hefty salary increase for a new contract with CBS, but other sources discounted how much of a factor salary negotiations were in Kilborn's decision to move on.

CBS is not believed to have a replacement for Kilborn lined up for the show, which follows "Late Show With David Letterman" in the 12:35 a.m. time slot. Letterman's Worldwide Pants production banner has the right to produce the show in that time slot per Letterman's contract with CBS.

Kilborn took over "Late, Late Show" in April 1999 after Tom Snyder exited the post-Letterman slot on CBS. A former ESPN anchor, Kilborn first garnered attention for his comedy skills during his 1996-99 stint as the original host of Comedy Central's mock newscast "The Daily Show."

During Kilborn's tenure, "Late, Late Show" has been a steady performer for CBS, though it has consistently run second in the time slot to NBC's "Late Night With Conan O'Brien." During the past 12 months, "Late, Late Show" has averaged 1.6 million viewers each night, compared with 2.5 million for NBC's "Late Night."

bring back Tom Snyder and his cigarettes!

Aw, Craig...



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YOU SUCK!

Kilborn fill-ins invited back
Source: Associated Press

"The Late Late Show" is asking four guest hosts to stay a little longer.

Actors Craig Ferguson and Michael Ian Black, comedian D.L. Hughley and MTV "Total Request Live" host Damien Fahey have been invited back for one-week tryouts as host of the CBS late-night talk show, which is searching for a replacement for Craig Kilborn.

Ferguson is up first, starting next week, followed by Hughley, Fahey and Black.

The talk show, which follows "Late Show With David Letterman," is produced by Letterman's company, Worldwide Pants. Tom Keaney, spokesman for Worldwide Pants, said the four semifinalists were among the 20 people who filled in on the show this fall. The company hopes to announce its selection next month, he said.

Kilborn left at the end of August, saying he wanted to pursue writing and producing other TV projects.

David Duchovny did a good job as fill-in. Get him.

'Late Late' news: Host is Ferguson

It looks like Craig Ferguson can get comfortable behind the host's desk on "The Late Late Show."

Sources said CBS has settled on Ferguson to replace Craig Kilborn as host of the late-night talk show, which follows "Late Show With David Letterman" in the 12:35 a.m. slot.

CBS declined comment Monday.

Kilborn exited in August after five years of hosting the show. Following his departure, more than 20 guest hosts appeared on the show until early last month, when the network whittled the field of candidates to four: Ferguson, Damien Fahey, D.L. Hughley and Michael Ian Black. The four finalists were then invited to return for multinight hosting stints last month.

"Late Late Show" is produced by Letterman's Worldwide Pants production banner, which has the right to produce the show in that time slot per Letterman's contract with CBS.

Ferguson's TV credits include "The Drew Carey Show." On the film side, he has appeared in "Saving Grace" and "Chain of Fools" as well as the upcoming "Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events."

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Okay, so if Ferguson is hosting, consider me not me not watching.... worst choice ever...  Craiggers looks like a champ in comparison.

Poor MIB.  If Comedy Central messes up the Stella series, I'm going to jump towards the floor with my face

i'm actually glad mib didn't get it. he can focus on stella more

Craig Kilborn returns with 'The Kilborn File'
Source: Variety


Craig Kilborn, who anchored an early incarnation of Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" for two years in the 1990s, is returning to television with a show similar in tone to the current Jon Stewart version.
Produced by Twentieth Television, half-hour "The Kilborn File" will have a six-week run on Fox Television Station O&Os in New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Boston, Phoenix, Detroit and Austin, Texas, beginning June 28. Depending upon the city, show will air at 6:30, 7 or 7:30 p.m. and replace the current syndie sitcom airing at that timeslot.

Kilborn was host on CBS' "The Late Late Show" for five years and was often talked about as a possible latenight fixture but left the Eye in 2004. He has been off the air since. Before hosting "The Daily Show," Kilborn was a popular anchor on ESPN's signature show "SportsCenter."

In "The Kilborn Files" the host will offer opinions on pop culture and current events. He'll also have guests and a "power panel" that will weigh in on issues of the day.

While Twentieth wasn't specifically looking for a show that offered a humorous take on current events, Kilborn pitched the yakker and found the studio very interested.

"From a conceptual standpoint, this is his baby," Frank Cicha, senior VP of programming for Fox Television Stations, told Daily Variety . "He delivered on every comic concept he described to us. It's very well thought out. Comedy is hard, and doing it five days a week is near impossible, but enough was delivered. You knew there was something there."

Cicha also said the comparisons to "The Daily Show" may be premature. And, with "The Daily Show" on basic cable, Stewart and his team have more leeway in terms of language and content than Kilborn would have on Fox's O&Os.

"I'm not sure it'll be as political as that," he said. "I don't see it going in that direction. It might be less politics and more pop culture."

Show, produced by Lon Rosen, will tape in Los Angeles before a live audience.