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Title: The Ringer
Post by: MacGuffin on April 05, 2004, 03:38:11 PM
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Trailer here. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_searchlight/the_ringer/)

Release Date: November 5th, 2004 (wide)

Cast: Johnny Knoxville (Steve, AKA Jeffy), Brian Cox, Katherine Heigl, Zen Gesner, Jed Rees, John Taylor.

Director: Barry Blaustein (Beyond the Mat)

Screenwriter: Ricky Blitt (debut)

Premise: This comedy is about two guys who decide to rig the Special Olympics to pay off a debt by having one of them, Steve (Knoxville), pose as a contestant in the games, hoping to dethrone reigning champion, Jimmy. (Brian Cox plays Knoxville's uncle.)
Title: The Ringer
Post by: SoNowThen on April 05, 2004, 03:40:35 PM
:lol:
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Post by: kotte on April 05, 2004, 03:43:26 PM
this is how you handle offensive material...
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on April 05, 2004, 03:53:38 PM
I bet the producers of this are ready to throttle Trey Parker and Matt Stone for South Park 2 weeks ago.

Knoxville's face is priceless.
Title: The Ringer
Post by: El Duderino on April 05, 2004, 06:03:27 PM
it has potential, i'll end up seeing anyway
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Post by: Pedro on April 05, 2004, 06:23:05 PM
does anyone know where i can find some actual special olympics footage?
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Post by: oakmanc234 on April 06, 2004, 02:14:40 AM
I don't remember the last time I actually laughed at a movie poster, this one did the trick (god you can just taste the controvery thats awaiting this film). The teaser trailer with Knoxville being beaten up by a priest is a funny too. Brian Cox is a major bonus and after seeing Knoxville steal 'Walking Tall' out from under The Rock's feet, I cant wait for his next big screen effort.
Title: The Ringer
Post by: MacGuffin on April 06, 2004, 02:19:55 AM
*SOME STORY SPOILERS BELOW*


Quote from: oakmanc234(god you can just taste the controvery thats awaiting this film)

Michael Fleming of "Variety" reported that after years of working on the script, the production received approval from the Special Olympics board to use their name, and film at their events, using their athletes. The reason that the board was willing to sign on to what might seem at first like a movie that could be mocking the mentally handicapped is that the "script doesn't draw its laughs at the expense of any group. In fact, it turns out the competitor can't beat the Special Olympians, and they quickly discover he's an imposter."
Title: The Ringer
Post by: Pubrick on April 06, 2004, 07:29:36 AM
Quote from: MacGuffinIn fact, it turns out the competitor can't beat the Special Olympians, and they quickly discover he's an imposter."
is that a quote from the special olympics board? if so, gotta love them special ppl.. they live in a beautiful world where the word "spoiler" doesn't even exist.

not that it matters in a movie like this tho, let it never be said that xixax are snobs.. unless of course, u don't see this.
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Post by: SoNowThen on April 06, 2004, 09:42:32 AM
I guess that's kinda funny if he can't beat the other "special" competitors, but the asshole in me really wanted to see some jokes at their expense...
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Post by: MacGuffin on September 27, 2005, 09:15:42 PM
New Trailer here. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_searchlight/the_ringer/trailer_large.html)
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Post by: polkablues on September 28, 2005, 01:37:53 AM
Quote from: MacGuffinNew Trailer here. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_searchlight/the_ringer/trailer_large.html)

So has this movie been sitting on the shelf since April of last year or what?  Did they just want to put some distance between it and the identical "South Park" episode?  Or did they just miss their initial release date and were waiting to release it in order to better position it for awards season?  So many questions, so few answers.
Title: The Ringer
Post by: 72teeth on September 28, 2005, 01:50:45 AM
is that a Woody Woodpecker impression that Knoxville's doing...
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Post by: Pas on September 29, 2005, 10:11:21 AM
I tought this was The Ring 3 when I clicked on the thread. (seriously)
Title: Re: The Ringer
Post by: MacGuffin on December 14, 2005, 08:49:36 PM
Quote from: polkablues on September 28, 2005, 01:37:53 AM
So has this movie been sitting on the shelf since April of last year or what?  Did they just want to put some distance between it and the identical "South Park" episode?

Farrellys' "South Park" Smackdown

Is Cartman a crook?

Peter and Bobby Farrelly, the gross-out gurus behind Dumb and Dumber and There's Something About Mary are accusing South Park masterminds Trey Parker and Matt Stone of ripping off a movie idea.

Per Daily Variety, the Farrellys claim a 2004 South Park episode, in which Cartman pretends to be mentally disabled to compete in the Special Olympics, blatantly copied The Ringer, the brother's upcoming movie about, yes, a guy who feigns a mental disability to win the Special Olympics.

Parker and Stone's story line pissed off the Farrellys and Ringer writer Ricky Blitt so much that it sparked ill will between the two comedy teams.

"When you think of a premise so radical it's unmakable, you hang in for seven years to see it through, it is a shock to the system to have people on Websites saying, 'You hack, you stole this from South Park,' " Blitt tells Variety. "I set this up so long before that episode was conceived. It is bad enough to have your idea taken: It's 1,000 times worse when you are then accused of stealing."

The Ringer, starring ex-Jackass Johnny Knoxville as the faux Special Olympian, is scheduled for release Dec. 23.

There's been no mention of a lawsuit, but Peter Farrelly, who produces the film with his brother, believes the plot similarities weren't an accident.

"There is no way those guys didn't know we were making this very movie as they took it upon themselves to do that episode," he tells Variety. "They know what they did and they know it was wrong. Period. These are guys I have always respected, but what they did was very creepy."

Blitt says he had shopped his screenplay all over town, including to Parker and Stone, before the Farrellys and their Connundrum Entertainment snapped it up.

But veteran producer Bob Kosberg (Twelve Monkeys), who pitched The Ringer to the South Park brain trust, tells the trade he never actually spoke to Parker and Stone about the screenplay, and the pair themselves have denied ever hearing about the concept.

"I can totally see why Ricky would be bummed about people accusing him of stealing an idea he came up with himself," Stone says in Variety. "But this is a matter of people having the same idea, and I assure you we weren't aware of the movie when we did that episode. And I don't agree with Peter's point that you should back off if you have an idea and find someone else has it too."

"It should be a race to the market," he adds. "I don't think that is all their movie has going for it Getting the Special Olympics to take part, now that is a cool thing."

The Farrellys, who volunteer for Best Buddies, a mentoring program for people with mental retardation, wanted to make sure the film didn't stigmatize the athletes and sought counsel from the Special Olympics. The brothers even went so far as giving the organization final script approval.

Parker and Stone's take-no-prisoners comedy has targeted everything from the war in Iraq to The Passion of the Christ to Michael Jackson's legal problems to a recent episode lampooning Tom Cruise's affiliation with the Church of Scientology.

When discussing the origins of their puppet flick, Team America: World Police, Parker and Stone went on saying they had intended to use a purloined copy of The Day After Tomorrow script and shoot it word for word with puppets and release it the same day the live-action version. Their lawyers convinced them otherwise.

However, Parker and Stone are themselves involved with the disabled, financing and executive producing How's Your News?, a series of documentaries featuring mentally challenged reporters interviewing high-profile celebs, politicians and regular folk.

Sensitive to the Farrellys' accusations, the two maintain their innocence.

"It's hard for Trey and I to hear them come down on us like we ripped off an idea," Stone says in Variety. "I met Bob Farrelly once for about four minutes. I never met anybody else, neither has Trey, and we knew nothing about their movie. We thought of the idea for that episode early on, but we couldn't make it for two or three seasons. When the show expanded, we were able to make it.

"I don't think it means that much; if The Ringer is a good movie; it will do well. And I remember wanting to remake King Kong, 10 years ago. Does that mean I was ripped off? I wish wouldn't attack us, and 'creepy' is kind of harsh."

Parker and Stone just inked a three-year production deal with Paramount to write and direct movies. They're signed to produce new episodes of South Park for Comedy Central through 2008.

The Farrellys, meanwhile, are attempting to stage their long-gestating update of The Three Stooges.
Title: Re: The Ringer
Post by: grand theft sparrow on December 29, 2005, 12:55:24 PM
Saw this Christmas night... just remembered that I did.  The Farrellys should have done a rewrite.

A couple of good laughs but that's it.  It was trying too hard to walk on eggshells and still be funny.  The humor overall, for such a potentially offensive topic, succeeded in not being offensive to anyone at all and, for once, I feel like they should have just gone for it. 

South Park did it better in 1/3 the time and for free too.