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Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: socketlevel on March 07, 2004, 02:28:24 PM
i don't know if this was a topic before but i'm making a short film and i need recipes for fake cocaine (that can be snorted on camera) and fake blood (not a dawn of the dead comic book look, but realistic blood that could be applied to clothing and put in mouth.  maybe there are two diff ones for each effect?)

anyone know this?  i would fucking love it.

-sl-

oh another thing, if you guys know any good sites for this kind of thing post them too.  thanks.
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: 82 on March 07, 2004, 02:42:48 PM
a hobby shop or costume shop will cover your fake blood needs...

for cocaine use what was it.. fructose?  sucrose?  Something white.. I don't remember.
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: cine on March 07, 2004, 02:51:37 PM
Just go to Act One in Niagara Falls.
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: socketlevel on March 07, 2004, 03:01:32 PM
only prob is i'm in toronto.  maybe there is something here as well.  well i'm sure there is but i don't know where to look.  i've been searching

-sl-
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: Ghostboy on March 07, 2004, 03:37:58 PM
Corn syrup with red food coloring is the general fake blood favorite, I think. Only you have to put something else in it, like milk, to make it opaque, and also a drop or two of blue to get it dark enough.

Isn't baby laxaxtive a common coke subsitute? I think they used that on Requiem, if I remember correctly.

Here's a fun joke to play on your actors, though. Let them know that you're using baby laxative. Unbeknownst to them, though, you or your art director actually crushes a tin of altoids into a fine white powder and leaves that on the set for them to snort in the scene. What surprise they're in for!

I did this in high school. It's fun.
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: mutinyco on March 07, 2004, 04:34:41 PM
Or baking powder. Or is that baking soda. No...then you might wind up with a volcano coming out of your nose...
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: cine on March 07, 2004, 05:31:32 PM
You know what. Just get the real stuff.
Realism, my fellow Canadian friend. Realism.
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: MacGuffin on March 07, 2004, 05:39:13 PM
I asked a prop guy on the TV show "Kingpin" what they used for cocaine, and he said they had the actors snorting powered vitamin B12.
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: 82 on March 07, 2004, 05:42:51 PM
Quote from: GhostboyHere's a fun joke to play on your actors, though. Let them know that you're using baby laxative. Unbeknownst to them, though, you or your art director actually crushes a tin of altoids into a fine white powder and leaves that on the set for them to snort in the scene. What surprise they're in for!

I did this in high school. It's fun.

Great way to get actors to never work with you again.
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: metroshane on March 07, 2004, 05:44:27 PM
Ghostboy has the right recipe for blood in color pics...but I believe plain ol' chocolate syrup is better for b/w film.
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: booji_boy on March 08, 2004, 06:16:02 PM
White corn syrup, with red food colouring, and a HINT of either blue, or green. Food colouring varies by the brand, and in some cases, you don't even need to add green or blue. Sometimes even a drop of yellow. Just mix and match until you get the colour you want. You don't NEED milk, it really depends on what kind of a wound the blood is coming from, and in what amount. You can easily make a good couple of pints of blood for under $6, so don't bother running out to buy a $20 bottle of woochie "cinema blood", unless you're pressed for time, and can spare the money. All they're doing is the work for you, the ingredients really don't vary. If you're doing B&W, then go with chocolate syrup. It's even cheaper, and requires no additional work.

Let me know how it turns out!

-Rob.
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: prophet on March 08, 2004, 10:59:45 PM
hah im quoting PTA here "this is lactose and fructose.....that they're snorting here."
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: metroshane on March 09, 2004, 07:41:47 AM
Anyone here ever had to snort anything?  Doesn't sound pleasant to me.
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: cine on March 09, 2004, 07:59:06 AM
Quote from: metroshaneAnyone here ever had to snort anything?
Story of my life.
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: El Duderino on March 09, 2004, 07:26:06 PM
i've done it once or twice, wasn't really all it's cracked up to be...IMO
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: mutinyco on March 10, 2004, 10:17:06 PM
Quote from: GhostboyIsn't baby laxaxtive a common coke subsitute?

I'm sure they'll enjoy diarrhea coming out of their noses...
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: socketlevel on March 12, 2004, 11:07:04 PM
thanks, i'll go with the recipe and figure out the best look by trial and error.  i'm shooting in colour, on HD so i think it'll look fine.  i'll keep the chocolate syrup thing in mind if i ever go for B&W in the future.  who would have thought?  boggles my mind.  at the same time if you ever needed to apply it to an actor's mouth, it would be tasty.

the coke thing doesn't seem too concrete (no general concent) so maybe i should go with what PTA said.  something with a little bite would be good, so the actors can react to an actual stimulus.  you know make their eyes water a bit, and nose a little sore.

-sl-
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: socketlevel on March 24, 2004, 10:30:08 PM
used a blood recipe that turned out pretty good and baking sugar in the end.  actor thought it wasn't too bad but it might be a macho thing on his part.  he tried to fake it past me near the forth take.  kind of funny.

thanks again guys.

-sl-

yo yo pro t bono
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: travisbickle1000 on July 18, 2004, 02:04:26 PM
i have had the best luck with the corn syrup thing like everyone else says. if you are doing gunshots, try putting some blood into a super soaker and put it behind your actors head and then blast it onto a wall or something, depending on your super soaker it can look really good i think. the only problem is the corn syrup can ruin your favorite squirt gun :(
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: socketlevel on July 20, 2004, 07:32:02 PM
no forget about the super soaker thing,

use an air gun, soak a bit of tissue in with some of the blood mixture and then shoot it at the actor, the viewer doesn't see it coming on frame and it also leaves a perfect circle on impact.  it's looks really good, all we needed to do at that point was add a two frame mussle flash to the prop gun via photoshop in post, then put in a gunshot sound from a sound library.  it worked like a charm, you can't notice the difference.  I really fucking mean it, it looks professional.  that cost us about one dollar (canadian by the way) compared to the two thousand dollar expense if you shoot with a squib and got a pyrotechnic permit for a blank in a real gun.  it's all a bunch of nonsense you can do away with these days.

the beauty of technology

-sl-
Title: fake blood, and fake snortable cocaine?
Post by: imawombat on August 02, 2004, 04:13:50 PM
Quote from: metroshaneAnyone here ever had to snort anything?  Doesn't sound pleasant to me.

unfortunately, yes.  powdered sugar and it wasn't fun...but it looked pretty good.